  kfsutops Premium join:2002-08-19 Brandon, FL clubs:  | We keep hearing it.. We keep hearing/reading these stories about the bendable fiber.
But noone seems to be installing it yet. -- "There are no stupid questions, but there are a LOT of inquisitive idiots" | |
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 |   Nightfall My Goal Is To Deny Yours Premium,MVM join:2001-08-03 Grand Rapids, MI clubs:
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| Re: We keep hearing it.. said by kfsutops :We keep hearing/reading these stories about the bendable fiber. But noone seems to be installing it yet. Heck, BBR users are used to reading the news on this site about things they haven't heard of being used in the field yet. For instance, how many reports have you read about speed tests over the internet that break new records all the time, followed by QQing in the comments on this site. | |
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join:2004-03-19 Covington, LA | Because installing to MDUs is still expensive. All this did was negate the labor of having to install conduits through the entire MDU. | |
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| said by kfsutops :We keep hearing/reading these stories about the bendable fiber. But noone seems to be installing it yet. the baby bell has officially ordered the first batch of product.
Emphasis mine. | |
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 |   Skeedatl To Provoke and Annoy Premium join:2007-12-26 Laguna Hills, CA | Re: NYC If the gov't doesn't get greedy. | |
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join:2000-11-26 Salisbury, NC | Re: NYC I agree, how will this development help the poor and disadvantaged to better themselves through faster delivery of internet content. | |
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Still cool none the less wonder how much more it costs? | |
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join:2002-04-05 Jamaica, NY | Remember the internet can be used to discuss gang turf, arrange gang fights, and collaborate over gang rats to arrange appropriate drive bys for them, and also post gang intimidation videos on liveleak or youtube. | |
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| said by mwf :how will this development help the poor and disadvantaged to better themselves through faster delivery of internet content. This is an infrastructure investment. Just like building roads, sewers, water, fire, police etc.
Will deliver high speed Internet. Cost be bit/per/second is very low. Hopefully price for basic package will also be very low. More people will be able to afford high speed access.
Cheap high speed access will encourage companies to locate. Possibility adding new jobs.
It is a little like asking what was the benefit of the Internet highway system. It had profound effect on culture and economy. I have every reason to expect high speed Internet will also have profound effect.
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| said by mwf :I agree, how will this development help the poor and disadvantaged to better themselves through faster delivery of internet content. Not to worry, it will be FOR THE CHILDREN !  -- "Our network engineers are aware of the problem..." | |
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| "...preparing to deploy FiOS in the big apple" News Flash - FiOS is already deployed in part of Brooklyn, Queens and Staten Island.
Edit: I'm sorry - I forgot to add the Bronx and Manhattan too. So, they're already offering internet and phone in parts of all 5 boros. | |
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 |   Tomek Premium join:2002-01-30 Brooklyn, NY | Re: "...preparing to deploy FiOS in the big apple" I believe it, till I see it | |
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| red line Just because it can go everywhere, doesn't follow that it will.. Verizon is notorious of redlining the most profitable locations FIRST, then working it's way down the totem pole. Are you really serious that they will wire up the mdu apts of the Morrisania section of the Bronx over row homes in Mill Basin Brooklyn or Cadman Plaza? | |
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| Re: red line who cares....it's business. What's the point of them installing it to the places that can't/won't buy it? That's like saying that Cadillac should be required to open their dealerships in the places of a city that "need" nice new cars rather than the places that will actually be able to afford them. | |
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join:2004-04-04 Brooklyn, NY | Notorious, huh? Where's your proof? | |
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| said by followthe :
Just because it can go everywhere, doesn't follow that it will.. Verizon is notorious of redlining the most profitable locations FIRST, then working it's way down the totem pole. Are you really serious that they will wire up the mdu apts of the Morrisania section of the Bronx over row homes in Mill Basin Brooklyn or Cadman Plaza? Actually, they already have in Spanish Harlem. Not exactly Trump's neighborhood yet it is getting more and more FIOS deployed every day. | |
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| said by followthe :
Just because it can go everywhere, doesn't follow that it will.. Verizon is notorious of redlining the most profitable locations FIRST, then working it's way down the totem pole. Are you really serious that they will wire up the mdu apts of the Morrisania section of the Bronx over row homes in Mill Basin Brooklyn or Cadman Plaza? Prove it | |
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| said by followthe :
Just because it can go everywhere, doesn't follow that it will.. Verizon is notorious of redlining the most profitable locations FIRST, then working it's way down the totem pole. Are you really serious that they will wire up the mdu apts of the Morrisania section of the Bronx over row homes in Mill Basin Brooklyn or Cadman Plaza? You are full of BS.
Locally, they installed in my subdivision before the next one over and those homes are worth about 100K+ more than the ones in my subdivision.
Also, Stafford County and Prince William Counties are lagging well behind Spotsylvania county in Va. Both of those are further North (closer to DC) with home values much higher. I don't think Stafford County has any installs yet, but VZ is pushing hard in Spotsy. | |
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| I'm building FiOS every day in the slums of Providence, RI, ... they could have, and maybe should have moved to areas where prospective customers haven't run bills up on the cable company and the satellite company only to move to FiOS so they can avoid paying their bill. It's a business, Cox won't provide service to customers off the beaten path unless they pay thousands, and I mean thousands of dollars to get the coax to the premise. Verizon seems to be running fiber to even the most outlying homes in the area it is serving. | |
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| MDU FiOS I've had MDU FiOS for nearly a year now, our ONT is one building over where all the phone lines come into our section of the complex. Kind of annoying to know you have pure fiber, but can only access it through VDSL hardware. Yet it still pulls a perfect 15/2 everytime I bother to check.
We're moving to a detached house (ounce again) in 4 months, then I'll be saying hello to 15/15 GPON fiber! | |
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| Re: MDU FiOS said by NbWY1 :I've had MDU FiOS for nearly a year now, our ONT is one building over where all the phone lines come into our section of the complex. Kind of annoying to know you have pure fiber, but can only access it through VDSL hardware. Yet it still pulls a perfect 15/2 everytime I bother to check. We're moving to a detached house (ounce again) in 4 months, then I'll be saying hello to 15/15 GPON fiber! Lucky you. My town had this stuff placed over 2 years ago. Now I mean the town not where I happen to live. The Garden Apartment complex I live in was cut off. As soon as the fiber comes close. BAM it hangs a right down a side street. It comes up the next the nothing it just gets cut off. I've been desperate to get FIOS so I can kick CableVision to the curb. Oh well hope they get movin on that bendable now. | |
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| I fail to see the point of this product Existing fiber patch cords can do a 180 degree bend in around 3-5 inches with minimal loss, just as long as the bend is even with no kinks. Outside plant cable has more stringent bending radius', however underground most conduit is designed not to have any tight bends, to facilitate easy cable pull in.
The only place tight bends could remotely exist, are in the home runs (conduit from suites in a MDU to a central point on the floor) at witch point they could probably arrange to place the box and run cat5 to the suite | |
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| Re: I fail to see the point of this product said by playboy2000 :Existing fiber patch cords can do a 180 degree bend in around 3-5 inches with minimal loss, just as long as the bend is even with no kinks. Outside plant cable has more stringent bending radius', however underground most conduit is designed not to have any tight bends, to facilitate easy cable pull in. I would say that is closer to 50% of "designed not to have any tight bends". Its amazing what general contractors think fiber can do and equally amazing how big a fit they throw when you explain the entrance ducts are not going to work if they are shaped like an S. | |
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| Mostly drops I see this as a solution for the MDU's installs. I did not see the rep showing any OSP cables that we use will the steel/fiberglass strength members and/or armor shielding. I guess that we will have to continue to keep bends down to a minimum with these cables.
We have be using these bendable jumpers in the CO's for about the last 6 months around here. It is amazing the loss that a jumper can have inside a fiber trough when it it routed wrong.(WAY TOO LONG) I see people trying to hide all that slack up there all the time and not realizing what they are doing to the signal. -- GO NOLES!! | |
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| I dont think so Bronx...No it's not I called 10 Times asking if it were available in ANY area near me ...and each time they told me no. If they did release, their being mighty secretive, and I bet you live in a house OR Newly built Apartment, b/c as I see it this thread was meant to say that their giving hope for people already in 30 year old apartment buildings.... I mean Im paying CV 55 bucks a month for 30/5 where im only getting 14/4 so...(Yes I want fios only for the net ) | |
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