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 | | Just Like Wiki This flavor filtering is akin to Wiki...any crackpot can edit the content to reflect whatever agenda he wants to push - Sometimes it's caught by the 5 omnipotent ones who do the final edits, and sometimes, things fall through the cracks. OpenDNS is a good service, but the filtering service will have to be regarded as faith based. And we all know how that particular philosophy works. | |
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 newviewEx .. Ex .. ExactlyPremium join:2001-10-01 Parsonsburg, MD kudos:1 | Catagory Nomination I REALLY hope they have a "spamvertized" catagory.
I'd love to be able to input all those pill & penis sites. | |
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 |  ThrowDemsOutIf you can't convince 'em, confuse 'emPremium join:2002-03-03 Mullica Hill, NJ kudos:4 4 edits | Re: Catagory Nomination said by newview:I REALLY hope they have a "spamvertized" catagory. I'd love to be able to input all those pill & penis sites. They have a generic category called "ADWARE" that can be used to categorize such sites. See here: »www.opendns.com/community/domain···ory_id=1
They already have over 1400 sites submitted in that category and waiting for votes to determine inclusion. So if you choose to use OpenDNS and select the "ADWARE" filter, it should refuse calls to resolve the DNS for sites that eventually get voted on. And that may be a weakness with this service. Who is going to look thru 1400 entries and take the time to vote on them?
Besides the phishing category, I may actually try that one. -- My BLOG .. .. Internet News .. .. My Web Page | |
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| Re: Catagory Nomination said by ThrowDemsOut:They have a generic category called "ADWARE" that can be used to categorize such sites. No, that category doesn't quite have the desired level of hatred that I'd like to convey. -- Ö¿Ö The Rules of Spam | Maryland's Newest Anti-Spam Law Where are we going? And what's with the hand basket? | |
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I too would suggest a "Spammer" category be added, then we can finally death-penalty the sites of spammers. -- The public is a poor business manager. | |
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| It's only going to take one organized campaign to screw this up. Some political/ecco/religious/conspiracy (take your pick) group gets organized, they all vote the same way and nail a site they disagree with. -- There are many strange legends in the Amazon. Even I, Lucas, have heard the legend of a man-fish. | |
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 |  ThrowDemsOutIf you can't convince 'em, confuse 'emPremium join:2002-03-03 Mullica Hill, NJ kudos:4 1 edit | Re: It's only going to take one organized campaign said by DataDoc:to screw this up. Some political/ecco/religious/conspiracy (take your pick) group gets organized, they all vote the same way and nail a site they disagree with. Like the Ron Paul crowd blocking the John McCain site?  -- My BLOG .. .. Internet News .. .. My Web Page | |
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 |  |  | | Re: It's only going to take one organized campaign said by ThrowDemsOut:said by DataDoc:to screw this up. Some political/ecco/religious/conspiracy (take your pick) group gets organized, they all vote the same way and nail a site they disagree with. Like the Ron Paul crowd blocking the John McCain site? I'm thinking those crazy Scientologists blocking sites that are critical of Scientology as "hate" sites. -- "I sincerely believe the banking institutions having the issuing power of money are more dangerous to liberty than standing armies." Thomas Jefferson | |
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 |  |  |  Doctor FourMy other vehicle is a TARDISPremium join:2000-09-05 Dallas, TX | Re: It's only going to take one organized campaign If the $cientologists did that sort of thing, the first site on their hit list would be Operation Clambake (xenu.net). -- "The trouble with computers, of course, is that they are very sophisticated idiots." - Doctor Who (from Robot)
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 |  davidu join:2006-12-28 San Francisco, CA | said by DataDoc:to screw this up. Some political/ecco/religious/conspiracy (take your pick) group gets organized, they all vote the same way and nail a site they disagree with. That's not true -- We've prevented abuse with PhishTank and we're going to prevent it here too. Not all the keys to the castle are being handed out to random users.
There is a web of trust built in, and we have moderators. We just have to finish writing up some documentation and FAQ stuff on the site.
Just listing a domain in a category won't make it be blocked. This service will be MORE comprehensive than the one where there is a college kid hung-over in the basement of a security company classifying sites. This requires more than one person to screw up (or intentionally mess with) the database.
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 |  |  ThrowDemsOutIf you can't convince 'em, confuse 'emPremium join:2002-03-03 Mullica Hill, NJ kudos:4 2 edits | Re: It's only going to take one organized campaign said by davidu:There is a web of trust built in, and we have moderators. We just have to finish writing up some documentation and FAQ stuff on the site. Just listing a domain in a category won't make it be blocked. This service will be MORE comprehensive than the one where there is a college kid hung-over in the basement of a security company classifying sites. This requires more than one person to screw up (or intentionally mess with) the database. I love the discussion though. Since you apparently work for OpenDNS, maybe you could answer this question?
When using a browser based ad blocker like adblock plus on Firefox or IE7Pro on Internet Explorer, which gets control of the blocking 1st - the browser based ad blocker or the OpenDNS category blocking service?
The answer could be meaningful since your "Adware" category blocking would return an error msg say when blocking doubleclick.net, if I read the notes on your web site correctly. If OpenDNS gets control 1st and sends an error msg, that could mess up the correct rendering of a web page with the ads stripped out. -- My BLOG .. .. Internet News .. .. My Web Page | |
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said by ThrowDemsOut:When using a browser based ad blocker like adblock plus on Firefox or IE7Pro on Internet Explorer, which gets control of the blocking 1st - the browser based ad blocker or the OpenDNS category blocking service? I think we do... but go ahead and try blocking doubleclick.net and see what happens...
said by ThrowDemsOut:The answer could be meaningful since your "Adware" category blocking would return an error msg say when blocking doubleclick.net, if I read the notes on your web site correctly. If OpenDNS gets control 1st and sends an error msg, that could mess up the correct rendering of a web page with the ads stripped out. We do a good job not messing up. At least, we try. Give it a whirl and tell me what you think.  | |
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 |  |  |  |  ThrowDemsOutIf you can't convince 'em, confuse 'emPremium join:2002-03-03 Mullica Hill, NJ kudos:4 | Re: It's only going to take one organized campaign said by davidu:said by ThrowDemsOut:The answer could be meaningful since your "Adware" category blocking would return an error msg say when blocking doubleclick.net, if I read the notes on your web site correctly. If OpenDNS gets control 1st and sends an error msg, that could mess up the correct rendering of a web page with the ads stripped out. We do a good job not messing up. At least, we try. Give it a whirl and tell me what you think. I'll try it out as soon as the doubleclick domains get out of the "Undecided" category. -- My BLOG .. .. Internet News .. .. My Web Page | |
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| Re: It's only going to take one organized campaign said by gaforces:Its going to be hard to stop groups taking over like at Digg and more recently /. The religious groups will have a field day/decade filtering sites they object to. As could, in theory, the anti religious groups. -- 10,596 DEADLY TERROR ATTACKS SINCE 9/11~~TEAM DISCOVERY Can't feel you anymore, don't need you anymore, don't believe you anymore, I don't need you anymore
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 |  |  |  |  |  | | Re: It's only going to take one organized campaign nice try eintein but the most intolerant groups by far are the homosexual militants and left wing socialist idiots way more so than jesus freak conservatives. | |
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nice try eintein but the most intolerant groups by far are the homosexual militants and left wing socialist idiots way more so than jesus freak conservatives. LMAO. Whatta maroon. You must be able to correctly spell words first before you sarcastically belittle someone else. | |
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 ewgny join:2000-12-21 East Setauket, NY | Seems Pretty Good I actually started using OpenDNS a few days ago on my kids computers. I decided to try it to keep my kids from accidentaly surfing inapropriate material (my kids are mainly Webkinz and Disney surfers) It seems to work well, I blocked the anonymous proxy catagory and porn catagory.
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 MattAll noise, no signal.Premium join:2003-07-20 Jamestown, NC kudos:12 | Home and Biz
I use OpenDNS for my home network and as a forwarder for our business network. The speed wasn't a motivating factor as we had fast DNS already, but the phishing protection and the ability to force a cache refresh are awesome.
Kudos and keep it up! | |
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 ArchAngel21xWaiting for iPad 3Premium join:2001-10-28 Lincoln, NE | I Use Open DNS And so far I have been happy. I swear I noticed a small increases in websites loading when I started using their DNS servers too. | |
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 ztmikeMark for moderationPremium join:2001-08-02 Michigan City, IN | Chicago OpenDNS? HELLO!? Where the hell is there Chicago server at? I'd use them if they built a datacenter in Chicago. Otherwise I'll stick to 4.xxx -- »chris.pirillo.com/live/ | |
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 |  CWO333 join:2005-02-24 Chicago, IL | Re: Chicago OpenDNS? HELLO!? I've used OpenDNS for a while and I'm in Chicago and it works just fine. Never had a problem with it. | |
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 |  davidu join:2006-12-28 San Francisco, CA 1 edit | said by ztmike:Where the hell is there Chicago server at? I'd use them if they built a datacenter in Chicago. Otherwise I'll stick to 4.xxx We just signed a lease for space at 350 East Cermak Road in Chicago last week.
We're provisioning equipment now and ordering cross-connects with our various transit and peering partners.
Some of that stuff takes time so I'd put the timeline at anywhere from 30 to 60 days. Any more than 60 and I'll start to be annoyed. Any less than 30 and I'll be super impressed with our vendors.  | |
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 | | +1 for OpenDNS Just wanted to say thanks for a great service. I have used it for a couple months now and love it. More effective filtering than pc-based solutions - keeps my kids off the bad sites and I can tell from the reports if they try to go there.
Also works much better than my ISP's DNS servers that have a habit of tanking on a regular basis. | |
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 wavguy2003370's ForeverPremium join:2004-03-18 Saint Charles, IL | Just started using OpenDNS
So far so good. I noticed an immediate increase in page loading after switching from AT&T's sluggish servers. I signed up for the anti-phish and content filtering as well and have porn and other such sites blocked.
The only beef I have is the stats are in UTC rather than my own time zone so it makes trying to match up usage patterns a chore.
I like what I see so far and David being around and willing to participate is a nice touch. | |
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 | | We as Canadians are sorry Yes we are sorry but it isn't our fault we just want to browse web pages and most of these Canadian isp's can't even do that. We can't use our innate isp's dns servers because all of them are busted. I hope you accept our country's apology. | |
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