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| And it's only $3500 Sounds like it does the basic job of an amplifier that rebroadcasts the lower signal, to a limited area. Two antennas and a $270-700 repeater amplifier does the same.
What a steal!
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|  | | | | MichaelWacey
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Berwyn, PA | Re: And it's only $3500 As I read it, the price os for a market report for companmies interested in selling into this market.
I have always wondered if FemtoCells would carry data or just voice signals. It sounds like they will do both. | |
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join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
| Re: And it's only $3500 said by MichaelWacey  :I have always wondered if FemtoCells would carry data or just voice signals. It sounds like they will do both. If the femtocell is backhauled on a customer's own broadband connection that he pays for, the femtocell will only allow onto it that were programmed by the user, if you have caps on your line, or if you dont have fios, you want your DSL or cable modem maxed out by cell traffic, and your not comped by your carrier? | |
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| Re: And it's only $3500 said by patcat88 :said by MichaelWacey :I have always wondered if FemtoCells would carry data or just voice signals. It sounds like they will do both. If the femtocell is backhauled on a customer's own broadband connection that he pays for, the femtocell will only allow onto it that were programmed by the user, if you have caps on your line, or if you dont have fios, you want your DSL or cable modem maxed out by cell traffic, and your not comped by your carrier? A femtocell basically exactly duplicates the functionality of a cellular base station. The $3500 is for market research report to industry (not for consumer reading). Remember, the femtocell has to receive the cell phone signals AND convert everything exactly so that it can be sent over backhaul to carrier's core network. Once converted, voice requires very little data compared to say, sending a video file. The only practical advantage to femtocell is voice (not data), as others have pointed out, so that you can use your standard cell phone where you want and not depend on the cell phone company having coverage there. | |
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join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
| Re: And it's only $3500 And it only take 100 phone calls to max out your upload speed. 1000/9.6 (typical vocoder bandwidth)=104. And 1000 is a high estimate for upload speed. If I put a femotocell in an apartment in a very dense city (NYC for example), and its overlooks a 5x3 block park I guarentee you the femtocell will be maxed out instantaneously. Sprint's femtocell restricts phone numbers, not sure about T-Mobile. And whats the point of a femtocell if you can't have data go over it? Might as well goto a payphone. | |
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pnh102
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Mount Airy, MD
| Pointless For Data If the whole point of 3G is to provide high speed mobile broadband, why would someone need it indoors? Especially if that someone has a traditional broadband connection that the picocell would presumably use?
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| | EPS
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Hingham, MA | Re: Pointless For Data Hm, well, most smartphones can't connect to Wi-Fi (though the almighty iPhone can), so if you wanted to use your smartphone inside...
Also, on GSM, 3G is both data and voice. | |
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pnh102
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| Re: Pointless For Data said by EPS :Hm, well, most smartphones can't connect to Wi-Fi (though the almighty iPhone can), so if you wanted to use your smartphone inside... Most modern smartphones have built in wifi support. For those that don't, an SD, MiniSD, and very soon MicroSD workarounds are available.
But even if your phone doesn't have wifi, if you are at home and you have broadband and presumably a computer, why would you want to use your phone for data?
said by EPS :Also, on GSM, 3G is both data and voice. True, but most phones do support fallback to EDGE or basic GSM for voice, both services are quite prevalent in the USA (although I know that in other countries they use 3G for everything).
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Mizzat
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Atlanta, GA | picocells are awesome When I go in AT&T Mobility's headquarters they have pico cells in their elevators so you never drop a call in the elevator. Every building needs that.
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| | patcat88
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Jamaica, NY | Re: picocells are awesome You sure they are in the elevators and not in the hallways near them? Continuous flex Cat5 or Fiber to get to the elevator car isn't cheap. | |
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| Re: picocells are awesome said by patcat88 :You sure they are in the elevators and not in the hallways near them? Continuous flex Cat5 or Fiber to get to the elevator car isn't cheap. It works all the way from the lobby to the 15th floor of thier building, from what I was told, ti was in the elevator, amybe just in the shaft, but it was 5 bar in the elevator ride to the top. | |
| ditka_b
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Barrington, IL | It'll be.. 50.00 charge to consumers for the Femtocell device. | |
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| Femtocells I think many people miss the point of femtocells, and when you dig into the ecosystem, you learn its not just about technology.
Yes, repeaters have been around for years, and guess how many operators offer them? Yes zero. Why, because they offer little benefit to an operator while conceding that the operator's indoor coverage is poor. Of course an operator doesn't want to endorse those, and guess how popular these devices are? Good luck even finding them at Fry's.
And Wi-Fi, yes more phones are getting it, and reports that I have written say its becoming increasing popular, even for low-end phones, but while interesting, operators have much more planned for your phone than Wi-Fi, and most untechnical people don't use it, especially on their phones.
Femtocells can support both data and voice, but its not mandated and operators can restrict one or the other. Femtocells also reduce an operator's infrastructure cost, so that is why they like them. And your femtocell may even be providing better coverage for your neighbors using your Internet connection.
There are still lots of unknowns, to be sure, but I wouldn't write them off just yet.
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