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Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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Tulsa, OK | .... ...
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join:2004-07-05
Miami Beach, FL
| Re: .... really..you think the USA is an epic failure? You may diagree with foreign policy or even domestic policy but as far as I am concerned (and most historians) the US is the epitome of the SUCCESS of modern civilization and continues to be the WORLD LEADER for most of the important metrics while basically being the linchpin for the worlds financial system. FYI the whole world doesnt hate us, I have been to many countries recently and have many foreign friends and they still love the US although they may disagree with our Foreign policy. Take that shit somewhere else! Maybe daily KOS or some leftie pinko commie blog, f**king loser | |
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join:2007-04-11
Louisville, KY
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| Re: .... Oh for God's fucking sake, do you have absolutely no sense of humor? IT'S A JOKE. HUMOR-or are you completely incapable of any kind of levity?
God forbid anyone have the ability to joke about their country. I have the ability to joke about it-and I'm a veteran. So..........take YOUR shit somewhere else. | |
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join:2004-07-05
Miami Beach, FL
| Re: .... I certainly can take a joke. Usually they are preceded or follow by a notation as such. Your post had no such indication, therefore my inability to read your mind and its subsequent response to your post seemed right on. There is just way too much US bashing in the net these days and I am persoanlly sick of the "bash us to be cool crowd"
Anyway...haha....now i get it...
Thanks for your service. | |
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join:2007-04-11
Louisville, KY | Re: ....  it's all good. my bad, i should have put [sarcasm on]... | |
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join:2007-04-11
Louisville, KY | Re: .... again, it's a joke. I'm thinking yours is too.  | |
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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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Tulsa, OK | Re: .... Ya that bumper sticker is classic  | |
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JeepMatt
Delaware Fios
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join:2001-12-28
Wilmington, DE | Re: Lets all chip in and buy it Everyone that lived in this area knew it was a joke from the beginning anyway.
Good luck going bankrupt Earthlink. We don't care.
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N3OGH
They both suck, we're so screwed
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join:2003-11-11
Philly burbs | Re: Lets all chip in and buy it Second that.
Anyone who believed this one would work probably was sure the Eagles were winning the Super Bowl "Big Game" this year....
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Homebrew1994
Betzwood Basement Brewery
join:2001-11-15
King Of Prussia, PA
·Comcast
| Wasn't this one Hizzoner Mayor Street's big plans to turn the city around?
Maybe fixing the schools or fighting the murder rate might have been a better use of his time.
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TK Junk Mail
Go ahead, make my day
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join:2002-03-03
Margate City, NJ
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| Re: Lets all chip in and buy it The City of Filthadelphia could have taken it over for free. But they didn't want to pay the cost of operating it. And small wonder, since it cost plenty to run and brings in little to no revenue. And with hardly anybody using it, there were no prospects anyone else would want it.
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good_riddance
@verizon.net | who cares... (in a sing-song voice) and then along came verizon.... | |
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RadioDoc
Sortofadog
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join:2000-05-11
Chicago, IL | "transfer our Wi-Fi network to a new owner -- at no cost" Well, since they put such a high value on it, no wonder nobody wanted to take it.
Just another of a long line of punch lines from the jokers at Earthlink.
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Boricua65
Oye, chico
join:2002-01-26
Sacramento, CA | Eat link Earthlink should be shut down and fed to the dogs!!! | |
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join:2004-07-11
Livonia, MI | Re: Eat link Thats not fair to the dog.
I am reporting you PETA for credulity to animals. | |
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Billa9b0ng
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join:2002-04-08
Altoona, PA | ha First this news, and in a few days they will have been swept by the PENGUINS!!
poor philly 
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N3OGH
They both suck, we're so screwed
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join:2003-11-11
Philly burbs
 ·Verizon Online DSL
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May 13th, @05:10PM
| Re: ha said by Billa9b0ng  :First this news, and in a few days they will have been swept by the PENGUINS!! Dream on Altoona, dream on.
Flyers will tie it up in no time.
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Billa9b0ng
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Altoona, PA | Re: ha Oh, I must have missed something! | |
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italiansmoke
join:2005-07-21
Monroe, MI
| Flyers tying up the series?... Are you sure Billa is the one that's dreaming?
Pittsburgh is making Philly look silly.
Fortunately, it really doesn't matter since Detroit trumps all. | |
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patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
| millions? Whats shocking is, is that Earthlink will dismantle the network, whats the point in that? Do those 802.11B APs have any resale value?
And why the hell does it cost millions to operate each year? Are they feeding the electricity to the APs from burning $100 bills inside a steam boiler? How much is a 100mbit ethernet line and $1*num of APs of electricity a year? | |
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join:2006-03-27
Dresden, TN
| Re: millions? Unfortunately they are probably paying something along the lines of $15 per month for electricity per AP. Here you pay $12 per month per metered connection + usage. Everytime you see a meter figure $12 or so + usage just for that one thing plugged into, wheter it be the phone, cable company, or in this Case Earthlink.
Perhaps they got a deal, but I doubt it. | |
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billyjoejimbob
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| said by patcat88 :And why the hell does it cost millions to operate each year? Are they feeding the electricity to the APs from burning $100 bills inside a steam boiler? How much is a 100mbit ethernet line and $1*num of APs of electricity a year? Most of the cost is in actually maintaining the equipment and keeping the network operational. With the number of access points needed to cover a city the size of Philadelphia you'd likely have multiple crews of workers busy every day dealing with equipment failures, vandalism, etc.... | |
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join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
| Re: millions? said by billyjoejimbob :
equipment failures, vandalism, etc....
Equipment failures? Aren't there warranties on the AP hardware? It must be more reliable than my 3 year old Linksys.
Vandalism to a pole mounted AP »www.polywog.org/pictures/philade···i_ap.jpg ? Are the APs being used as markmanship training targets? Or does phili have monkeys which can scale light poles unassisted and hang off the AP like trees? Or have robbers/looters learned how to use cherry pickers? How much vandalism can there be? | |
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billyjoejimbob
@qwest.net
| Re: millions? said by patcat88 :said by billyjoejimbob :
equipment failures, vandalism, etc....
Equipment failures? Aren't there warranties on the AP hardware? It must be more reliable than my 3 year old Linksys. Vandalism to a pole mounted AP » www.polywog.org/pictures/philade···i_ap.jpg ? Are the APs being used as markmanship training targets? Or does phili have monkeys which can scale light poles unassisted and hang off the AP like trees? Or have robbers/looters learned how to use cherry pickers? How much vandalism can there be? I'm sure there are warranties on the hardware, but on failures the expensive part isn't replacing the hardware. The expensive part is paying someone to diagnose what the problem is, or paying a tower crew to replace equipment etc... And with this being outdoor equipment I guarantee you the failure rates are much higher than on your linksys that is in a controlled environment in your house, even if the equipment is "hardened".
One big problem of using the standard unlicensed 2.4ghz WiFi frequencies for your network is that you have to deal with other people using the same frequencies for their own stuff, causing yours to cease working properly.
As for vandalism, you'd be amazed at what people manage to destroy. Here's an article about someone damaging some fiber optic lines near Cleveland with gunfire.
»www.itbusinessedge.com/item/?ci=32601
Like I said, you're likely to need teams of people working every day of the year to keep the network operational, which is where the big expense comes from in ongoing costs.
Hell, St. Cloud Florida operates a citywide WiFi network and it costs them $400,000 per year to keep it running. And St. Cloud is tiny compared to Philly.
»wifinetnews.com/archives/007535.html | |
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senatedon
join:2002-03-18
Harrisburg, PA
·Comcast Digital Vo..
| Karl, can I say, "told you so" now? this was a failure from the beginning and you and others tried to deflect my arguments by writing what a big bad company Verizon is.
Well, VZ had nothing to do with this predicted failure.
Told you so. | |
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patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
| just in time Perhaps a smarter method of operation of Philadelphia Wifi by Earthlink would have been to only build out coverage to serve homes of people who signed 1 year contracts, and public facilities (near libraries/parks/muni buildings) asked for by the city. Just-in-time construction, nothing new. Nomad and roamers are the least stable customers so why build for them? | |
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Earthlink Closing Philly Wi-Fi Network June 12
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