 MrHappy316
Wish I had my tank
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join:2003-01-02
Summerville, SC
 ·AT&T DSL Service
| Just Wait Just wait till one of these cell phone spammers is successful at sending a ton of messages to a couple million subscribers. You think the wait times for customer service are bad now. The more expensive these things get the less people will overlook a spam message. | |
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Hudson, FL | Re: Just Wait That would be great! And maybe that's what it will take to fix this inequality of service(s). | |
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join:2006-06-19
Ames, IA
·Qwest.net
| Re: Just Wait said by N10Cities  :said by incomingfree :
That is why #1 I pay full price for a phone/ebay so I am not locked into a contract. #2 I don't ever plan to get service with a carrier that charges for incoming texts.
Good luck with finding one....they all charge for incoming texts...  In my area, iWireless (a T-Mobile affiliate) and US Cellular do NOT charge for incoming SMS on any plans AFAIK. Also, many prepaids do not charge for incoming or they are much cheaper. | |
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join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN
| Main reason I am probably going prepaid and voip I text message on my phone and to think I have to pay 40 bucks for the lowest plan and either add 15-20 dollars a month to get unlimited text messaging or to pay 20 cents a message. Right now I have a family plan but we are all graduated and going separate ways, so we are on our own. I cannot justify 55 bucks a month for a cellphone with basic features built in. For that price I would want to surf the web, but of course that is another 20-30 bucks. I've decided it would just be cheaper to get a prepaid phone for emergencies and use voip on a cordless phone while home. Maybe when cellphones cost 40 bucks a month with free text and web, I'll take another look. | |
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ME
join:2003-10-15
Toledo, OH | Re: Main reason I am probably going prepaid and voip MetroPCS, Revol and Cricket | |
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insomniac84
join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN | Re: Main reason I am probably going prepaid and voip Nice in all but very limited. Cricket is the only one that covers Kansas City and it is worthless if I travel. Sprint would be good if it didn't require such a long contract. Looks like prepaid is the way to go. | |
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ME
join:2003-10-15
Toledo, OH
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| Re: Main reason I am probably going prepaid and voip Cricket offers roaming but its limited to 200minutes per month out side of the Cricket networks.
Did you look at TM? they offer FlexPay the benefits of a contract but without one? go to Wal-mart but a $70 phone call TM up and activate it under flex pay. You'll pay your first month up front but its nationwide service and no contracts. its month to month. don't like the service cancel before the next billing cycle. I have it and like it. | |
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Magic Murder Bag
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join:2001-05-13
Columbus, OH | It's called Sprint SERO. You should google it 
$30/month, nationwide, unlimited data, unlimited text, 500 minutes. | |
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jjoshua
Premium
join:2001-06-01
Scotch Plains, NJ | SMS is a waste This s so silly. You pay for fone service but instead of calling sum1, u spend extra money 2 txt them. | |
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Ferrous Phallus
join:2000-10-09
Southfield, MI
| Re: SMS is a waste Its a great feature when you have to talk with women. You just text them the info and your golden. If you had to call, it would take you at least 10 minutes of discussion for the same thing. 
With my Tmobile message plan I pay $0.0125 per message. Without a message plan its $0.15 per.
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join:2005-02-11
Davie, FL | You type like one of those frequent text-messagers. Anyone who uses "u" should be punched in the face. | |
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DaMaGeINC
The Lan Man
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join:2002-06-08
Greenville, SC
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join:2003-12-20
Ottawa, ON | y? u dont lke this type of msg? but its kool. | |
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join:2004-06-28
Seattle, WA | Re: SMS is a waste If you're 12, perhaps. | |
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA | Kiddie AOL-Speak. | |
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zachary1
you talkin' to me?
join:2004-03-07
right here | and those who type txt instead of text should be shot on sight, because they're only saving one letter | |
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Quiglag
God is Love
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join:2004-09-19
Ontario, CA | Re: SMS is a waste Blame Microsoft for that. notepad.txt | |
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cdru
Go Colts
Premium,MVM
join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
 ·Verizon FIOS
| said by zachary1 :and those who type txt instead of text should be shot on sight, because they're only saving one letter Says the person who contracts they're and saves a single character in the process.
I hate the process in settings such as a online forum like DSLR as it does nothing but make a message harder to read or search on. But when you have 160 (or less) characters to get a message through, you save everywhere you can. | |
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ME
join:2003-10-15
Toledo, OH | Re: SMS is a waste sounds like an English teacher. | |
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Dest
Bolo
Premium
join:2000-03-21
Naperville, IL
clubs: | lots of service can be used with texting...
Ebay auction ending for something you want to bid on.
Special Traffic Alert.
the upcoming national diaster alert system.
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ninjatutle
Premium
join:2006-01-02
San Ramon, CA | Disable txt messing services Problem solved  | |
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PToN
join:2001-10-04
Houston, TX | Re: Disable txt messing services You cant....
At least T-Mobile will not let you do it since they claim that they use SMS to provide customers with information about their bills... | |
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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
Premium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK
·Cox HSI
·AT&T Southwest
| Re: Disable txt messing services said by PToN :You cant.... At least T-Mobile will not let you do it since they claim that they use SMS to provide customers with information about their bills... Ouch.
I see lawsuits in T-Mobile's future.
"We won't let you block it but we WILL force you to pay for messages you don't want."
My reply to that type of attitude is "You can kiss my ...."
:/ Gotta love the American spirit of customer service these days....
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ME
join:2003-10-15
Toledo, OH
·buckeye cable
| Re: Disable txt messing services TM does provide you information about your account by text message. after you update your Favs, change the phone your SIM was in- it will text you to let you know your sim has been fully loaded and your Favs have been downloaded to that one phone for you to use.
Also their phones allow you to block texting. well at least my Samsung does. | |
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join:1999-12-08
Suffern, NY
| Re: Disable txt messing services said by hottboiinnc :TM does provide you information about your account by text message. after you update your Favs, change the phone your SIM was in- it will text you to let you know your sim has been fully loaded and your Favs have been downloaded to that one phone for you to use. Those types of messages should not require a Messaging Account (or if you do have one, should not be charged-for/counted-against-your-allocation). They are push messages from the provider not a message from another user/provider. Also since the traffic that contains SMS messages is "free" (ie: It is piggybacked onto the required I'm-[still]-here handshake that tells the cell-tower you are reachable) there is no extra cost to the provider the transmit it. | |
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ME
join:2003-10-15
Toledo, OH
·buckeye cable
| Re: Disable txt messing services their messages to you are free. I didn't say that. And i know how their system works for the most part the same as everyone elses. They just refuse to block SMS/Text and its their network. If it is set up that it would block their messages from reaching a customer than it is set up that way. But you have the option to block texts at your phone. Just have to go in and find it. | |
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join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA | VZW had no problems blocking SMS for my account. Yes, I no longer receive notifications regarding billing, but that's what e-mail is for. | |
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join:2005-04-07
Monroe, WA
| I just talked with T-Moblie and they are implementing sms blocking this month. The operator gave me 20 free sms's till the feature is installed.
She also advised they now have unlimited VOIP for $10 a month, just purchase the $50 router...not too shabby. | |
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ME
join:2003-10-15
Toledo, OH | Re: Disable txt messing services if you're allowed to sign up. FlexPay customers are NOT allowed to use their VoIP calling or anything else of that sort. We're stuck to our regular phones. | |
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join:2005-07-15
Gulliver, MI
·CenturyTel Inc.
| said by PToN :You cant.... At least T-Mobile will not let you do it since they claim that they use SMS to provide customers with information about their bills... What a joke.It works for me with Alltel/Verizon as i have my text mesaging blocked.They can send me info on my bill etc. but NO other messages can be sent or received. | |
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sivran
God Save The Suite
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join:2003-09-15
Arlington, TX
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| said by PToN :You cant.... At least T-Mobile will not let you do it since they claim that they use SMS to provide customers with information about their bills... Those are free.
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join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA | "Insists" on using SMS? I guess if people have such a problem paying for service, then people wouldn't be "insisting" on text messages. | |
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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
Premium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK
·Cox HSI
·AT&T Southwest
| Re: Disable txt messing services If you'd stop thinking about everything as how it pertains only to yourself, you'd see the point.
I can see other situations where blocking/turning off SMS may cause problems for OTHER people's accounts. Obviously you're fine with it, so be it, but your situation isn't the same as everyone else.
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join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
·AT&T Southeast
| Re: Disable txt messing services said by KrK :your situation isn't the same as everyone else. Nor is yours. That's what makes the plethora of choice so great. There are options available to satisfy everyone. The problem seems to be that some people don't want to acknowledge or pay for some of those options. | |
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Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK | Re: Disable txt messing services The plethora of ways they try to make you pay extra for what you don't want is so great. There are not options to satisfy everyone. | |
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join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA | Re: Disable txt messing services I'm sorry, you're right...there isn't a free plan. | |
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Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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join:2005-09-10
Warrenville, IL | Exactly. Did that yesterday after receiving several spam messages. I plan to keep it disabled when I get an iPhone 3G. Without the text messages I'll be paying exactly what I'm paying now for my HTC 2125. | |
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| said by ninjatutle :Problem solved t-mobile WONT do that!
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Joe12345678
join:2003-07-22
Des Plaines, IL | Why can't they have free incoming. Why can't they have free incoming.
What will they do if some gets hit $1000+ bill for incoming SMS force you to pay it? | |
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pabster
join:2001-12-09
Waterloo, IA | No big surprise... ...ARPU is down across the board. Consumers aren't all that sharp by-and-large. And we can sell $20 "All You Can Text" family plans! | |
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Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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join:2000-01-17
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| Re: Erm... said by netwire :Perhaps I am not understanding how this works, but... it cost you to send a message to someone, and it cost them to receive it - if they are on the same network the carrier is making double profit on that one message, even though they are only transferring it once. To me it seems like carriers make more of text and picture messaging than they do on actual voice plans, but then again I could be wrong. My understanding is that wireless phones and the network "talk" to each other via packets all the time (whether you're on the phone or not)... and that txt messages actually fit into these packets. My understanding is that the additional cost of sending a txt message basically approaches zero over just having a regular wireless phone that is charged up.
I could be wrong but that's how it was explained to me, and that's why there's the technical limit of 161 characters (the max that will fit in one packet.)
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insomniac84
join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN
| Re: Erm... No you are correct. Text messages use no extra bandwidth. They were created to profit off of something that is inherently free. That way large 20 dollar fees for unlimited messages or high per message fees are 100% profit. Because of that, there is little chance they will ever remove those fees because the profit hits would be way to great. | |
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join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| Re: Erm... said by insomniac84 :No you are correct. Text messages use no extra bandwidth. Yep you have have to send over 52,000 txt messages( assuming you used all 160 characters ) to use up just one MB of data. Peole thinking paying $20 for unlimite texting is a good bargin have no clue. Hell Verizon will charge you $1.99 per MB of data. And that a joke in of itself and paying $20 for that is a deal?
Why Congress isn't looking into this I don't get. | |
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join:2006-06-19
Ames, IA
·Qwest.net
| Re: Erm... Yes it's a complete rip-off. I never use all my peak minutes anyway and N&W are unltd. So I make calls instead of buying a ripoff SMS package. It actually costs Verizon more if I make a call, in terms of network capacity. Calls take up either 8Kbps or 13Kbps depending on the CDMA codec being used. It costs them even more if it's not a Verizon phone; then AFAIK they have to pay a call termination fee to the other carrier at a per-minute rate. | |
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join:2001-02-16
Tulsa, OK
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| said by KrK :said by netwire :Perhaps I am not understanding how this works, but... it cost you to send a message to someone, and it cost them to receive it - if they are on the same network the carrier is making double profit on that one message, even though they are only transferring it once. To me it seems like carriers make more of text and picture messaging than they do on actual voice plans, but then again I could be wrong. My understanding is that wireless phones and the network "talk" to each other via packets all the time (whether you're on the phone or not)... and that txt messages actually fit into these packets. My understanding is that the additional cost of sending a txt message basically approaches zero over just having a regular wireless phone that is charged up. I could be wrong but that's how it was explained to me, and that's why there's the technical limit of 161 characters (the max that will fit in one packet.) You are partly correct. Text messages (on GSM!) are usually transferred on the control channel. The one that tells your phone you're getting a call, or where your phone tells the network "I've answered" or "I received that message." They can be transferred over GPRS, but that's rarely implemented by the carriers.
Your phone doesn't actually use the control channel that much when it's just idling. That's why they last so long in standby. Every 10 seconds or so, it wakes up to listen for a paging message telling it it's receiving a call. Every 10 or 20 minutes (it depends on what the specific carrier has set the specific cell to require) the phone re-registers with the network. If you have lots of phones in one area, the control channel can get pretty congested.
So yes, technically SMS is using a resource that's already there, but it's a very important resource that, when exhausted, causes the entire network to come crashing down. That's why your phone asks for permission to send the message, and the network will wait to push a message out to you until a time that is convenient for it.
While the increasing charges are likely just profit taking by the carriers, there may be a component of attempting to restrict usage to some degree to keep delivery times decent.
Personally, I don't care what at&t does with text message charges. I'm unlikely to burn through 1500 SMS and 200 MMS that I get for what I consider free. I have the old MEdia Works plan that includes the messages plus unlimited data, which I bought for the data, not the messages. I suppose at&t is selling a $15/mo unlimited data package, so I should consider the messages a $5/mo expense...
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Tigerpaw509
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join:2006-07-15
Huntley, IL | $19.95 I have 6 cell phones on ATT service and pay $19.95 unlimited texting on all 6.Its not that bad at all | |
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amarryat
Verizon FiOS
join:2005-05-02
Marshfield, MA
·Verizon FIOS
| Blackberry too I have a Blackberry, and I can surf the internet on it 'til the cows come home. And I can send as many emails as I want. I can even send them to nnn-nnn-nnnn@wirelessprovider.com for free. But if I "compose SMS TXT" instead, it costs me. Make sense? | |
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join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA | Re: Blackberry too The SMS gateways really hurt the justification for high text charges... if it's so expensive, why can you do it free via e-mail? | |
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join:2007-08-01
Federal Way, WA
| Chug chug chug I don't suppose it helps that SMS is a technology that is what, 15 years old? I don't imagine there's been much development in better SMS handling systems.
SMS should be replaced with IP-based services anyway. It's dumb to have multiple data realms. About as dumb as sending a floppy disk in the mail would be today. GSM providers eventually realized it would be cheaper/easier to just give legacy CSD users new phones and support than to keep its CSD gateways plugged in and chugging. | |
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join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA | Re: Chug chug chug SMS piggybacks on existing communications phones have to do anyway- it's probably less expensive for a carrier to do a transmission via SMS than via say, an AIM program on the data network. | |
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dispatcher21
join:2004-01-22
united state | A for profit company making a profit...how evil! These companies are here to make money, not be a charity. If you cant afford or dont agree with the prices, dont use it. I dont see what the problem here is. | |
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join:2007-03-03
1001EB
| Re: A for profit company making a profit...how evil! said by dispatcher21 :These companies are here to make money, not be a charity. If you cant afford or dont agree with the prices, dont use it. I dont see what the problem here is. Oh, f**k who brought out the smart people. Dammit you should contain that s**t. That s**t here gets you moderated and watched like a bad puppy. | |
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join:2001-03-15
Smithtown, NY
·Verizon FIOS
| said by dispatcher21 :These companies are here to make money, not be a charity. If you cant afford or dont agree with the prices, dont use it. I dont see what the problem here is. My feeling entirely. I'm a technology freak probably more than most, but some things are just getting too expensive. We were using 100 minutes a month and had a 700 minute cell phone plan costing $65. 100 minutes equates to .65 cents a minute. My usage was 6 minutes last month and at a cost of $30 for my half of the family plan equates to $5 per minute.
I bet the phone company loves us. Even in the hey day of Ma Bell I don't think they got 65 cents per minute for local calls.
I dumped my phone and we now have a $30 plan with 200 minutes for my wife. I might get a prepaid phone for $25 and leave it in the car. | |
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join:2001-12-09
Waterloo, IA | Re: A for profit company making a profit...how evil! "I might get a prepaid phone for $25 and leave it in the car."
Precisely what I do. 2 of them, in fact. No reason to pay the money grubbers those ridiculous monthly service charges for little to no usage. | |
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you talkin' to me?
join:2004-03-07
right here | What? Hi Rush! How's the OxyMoron going these days? | |
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join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL
·ViaTalk
| So what? Completely lost -- who gives a crap what the cost per megabyte is for texting? Why not talk about $/minute of electricity used to charge the phone battery?
I bought a car this week and paid over $6 per pound -- isn't that amazing? My first car was a 2000 lb Toyota and I only paid about $2 per pound for that one. Bastards!
Last weekend I went to a nudie bar and had a lapdance, and paid over $0.10 per second, we should have a protest.
Or wait, how about this -- I decide it's worth $0.15 or $0.20 to share a thought with someone I know using a text message. So I do it. Or, I think better of it and don't.
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join:2000-07-05
Greensboro, NC | Re: So what? I went and bought a diet coke (20 oz) for $1.49 at the gas station today... Dammit if they didn't have 2 liters on sale for .89 cents (68 oz versus 20 oz). AMAZING!!!!! Coca-Cola Inc should be ashamed of themselves!!!! | |
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| Re: So what? said by Cod :I went and bought a diet coke (20 oz) for $1.49 at the gas station today... Dammit if they didn't have 2 liters on sale for .89 cents (68 oz versus 20 oz). AMAZING!!!!! Coca-Cola Inc should be ashamed of themselves!!!! the 20oz was probably cold and the 2litre just on the shelf room temp.
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you talkin' to me?
join:2004-03-07
right here | 10 cents a second for a lapdance? That's a bargoon! | |
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voipdabbler
join:2006-04-27
Kalispell, MT
| Easy credit--no one thinks, they just go in to debt Easy credit isn't a panacea--it's actually a curse. Too many people have become dependent on juggling multiple credit cards to satisfy impulse buying; most often buying things they can't afford. This goes for services too, like cellular phones. I know far too many people, especially young people, who haven't had any real training in basic economics or personal finance, who run up large monthly cellular bills on contract phones (some just don't like the stigma of prepaid, which is a better option for many on tight budgets). Some of them then use a credit card to pay those bills and begin building up huge amounts of debt.
This country really needs to begin teaching economics and personal finance to kids at an early age. They need to understand the huge cost of using credit cards.
I've said it before, the fact that 70 percent of our GDP is consumer spending presents a huge national security issue. It shows how little manufacturing capability we have remaining in this country. It also shows how much foreign investors are propping up our financial institutions. How much long that will continue, given the sliding value of the dollar, who knows. As a country, we're going to be hard pressed to remain a super power in ten years time if our current trends continue. | |
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join:2007-04-23
Tuscaloosa, AL
| Re: Easy credit--no one thinks, they just go in to debt You're exactly right, and that's why it will never happen if the government has any say in teaching it. Our economy is dysfunctional in that it requires continuous growth to survive. Companies aren't satisfied with profits that remain constant quarter after quarter. They demand growth, Growth, GROWTH. Anything less is considered failure. This means that consumers (don't you love that term???) are expected to spend, Spend, SPEND. That's why credit is so easy to get and so hard to pay off.
And remember those so-called stimulus checks? Did the government ask us to use those to pay down debts or to add to savings? No, they asked us to spend them. It didn't matter on what, just spend them. Fortunately, many people had their own ideas on how to use that money, which is why it didn't get spent on frivolous purchases, by and large. People used it to try to make a dent in their debt. But you see the problem here. Good fiscal responsibility dictates that you pay off your debts before you spend more money. Did the government advocate that? No, we were told to spend, even if that wasn't the wise thing to do.
So, to get back to your post, if kids are going to learn to manage money, they shouldn't look to the government to teach them. And our habits are going to have to change. Some might say that, if we stop spending like crazy, the economy will crash. I say that this outcome is probably inevitable, and the best we can hope for is to soften the blow by being fiscally responsible. Tough times are coming, so get your financial house in order.
And just to keep this post on-topic, yes, text charges are outrageous, but it's because people are willing to pay them. If people tell the cell companies they aren't going to use that service, then prices will come down. Don't text and tell your teenage kids that they aren't going to be texting anymore either because it's too expensive. No one's life will end because they stop texting. They may whine about it, but, if they want a phone to text, they can get a job to pay for it. That will be their first lesson in economics that they so badly need. | |
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nobody is using SMS to transfer actual "DATA" like the headline suggests.
Part of the reason this costs so much is that it uses the SS7 signaling network to actually carry the message. | |
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Richard Reed
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join:2007-08-28
Chesapeake, VA
| Re: why He is exactly right, SS7 have VERY LIMITED bandwidth and all messages go thru it. Each SS7 link is limited to 56 or 64 kbps.. My wireless MTSO has 4 pair links. So thats why it is very expensive.
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Fur It Up
join:2007-06-22
Portland, OR
·Comcast
| Deeply flawed, dishonest, and inflated The problem with the hypothetical used is they are comparing apples to oranges for example for cent article to inflate the cost.
"Carriers limit the number of characters that can be transmitted in a text message to 160 characters. Each character is about 7 bits, which works out to a maximum of about 140 bytes of data per text message. This is peanuts compared with the size of sending or receiving an e-mail or downloading an MP3 song over a cellular network.
One blogger has done the math. If the same pricing was applied on a per-byte basis to downloading one 4MB song it would cost the user almost $6,000 to download a single song via SMS texting."
One can not compare downloading an 140 byte SMS message to that of a 4MB MP3 since one is limited to 140 byte per SMS text, it will take 29,959 separate messages to download a 4MB file. another way to look at the flaw I would need to send 3.4 messages a hour 24/7 for a year just to reach the 4MB mark. | |
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aelfwyne
join:2004-01-28
Beaumont, TX
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|  A way to force texting plans on those who don't text
In my case, I have in the past left texting enabled on my phone (if blocking it is even an option, which it isn't always) just in case anyone I know has something extremely urgent, they can text me.
However, friends of mine abuse this and send me unrequested texts. Also I've recently received several "spam" texts. On many phones/plans, you pay for the text whether you open/read it or not.
I have one friend who infuriates me to no end. She will not answer her phone (a Helio Ocean of course), and only responds to texts. Worse, if I send her a message like "Will be there at 10:30" she feels she HAS to respond with "Ok"... a 15 cent "Ok" I've tried to tell her over and over, but she says "it's automatic, I don't think about it"...
So I'm as we speak trying to figure out how to completely disable texting on my phone, as last month's texting charges for unwanted texts on my phone exceeded what a basic texting plan would cost me.
And of course, the carriers know this. They make it so you can't "not read" a text to avoid the charge. They will surely try, as time goes by, to make it harder to turn texting off as well.
Finally, they are bundling texting into the "everything" plans as a way to justify higher charges. I pay $39.99 for 450 minutes. If I want unlimited data, that's $15.00 more - so $54.99... But Sprint's Everything plan with 450 minutes is...... .. $69.99? So I would be paying another $15.00 for unlimited texting I DO NOT WANT... of course, that's what I'll be locked into if I get an Instinct, as it's the minimum plan. And it's a "deal" supposedly, since I'd be getting unlimited texting! That I don't want.
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join:2008-05-22
| All the more reason... Just an illustration of the reason why I do not use text messaging on my personal phones. Sorry, but I refuse to pay $.20 per message when it costs them no where near that to send and receive those messages. I don't go to work and earn a paycheck just to get into the habit throwing my money away to boost a company's profits by paying excessive markups. And the truth is, I'm not a texting addict, so an unlimited texting plan is a waste of money for me. Just give me a voice line and the ability to check my email at a reasonable price.
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NOCMan
Verizon Fios User
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join:2004-09-30
Flower Mound, TX
| Billions of Dollars SMS is the cash cow of wireless companies. These platforms were paid for months after being built, and upgrades get paid for weeks after being done.
Data is still a small portion of revenues compared to the voice plans, however it increasingly becomes more as services expand into using data.
I would not be surprised if the iPhone AOL app uses SMS messages to communicate.
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join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA | Re: Billions of Dollars It's supposed to be available for the iPod touch as well, which means it won't use SMS. (Or maybe they'll just release a non-SMS version for the touch) | |
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SMS: You're Paying $1,310 (Or More) Per Megabyte
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