Average U.S. Upload Speed: 435kbps CWA Union test site suggests things could be much better.... The Speed Matters blog, which was started by the Communications Workers of America, has been tracking the average American Internet connection in each state, down to the zip code level. According to the organization's latest data, comprised of 230,000 online speed tests, there has been little progress over the previous year in the last-mile speed of a user's Internet connection. According to the organization, the average real-time download speed increased only 0.4 megabits per second (mbps) to 2.3 mbps. According to the report, things get a little uglier if you examine global averages, and even uglier if you examine average upstream speeds: The median download speed for the nation was 2.3 megabits per second (mbps). In Japan, the median download speed is 63 mbps, or 30 times faster than the U.S. The Internet Speeds Across the United States & Puerto Rico Speed Test results for May 2007 through May 2008 U.S. Internet Speeds In 2008 Show Little Growth Over Previous Year U.S. also trails South Korea at 49 mbps, Finland at 21 mbps, France at 17 mbps, and Canada at 7.6 mbps. The median upload speed from the speedmatters.org test was just 435 kilobits per second (kbps), far too slow for patient monitoring or to transmit large files such as medical records. Obviously CWA has a vested interest in the work created by broadband network expansion, so they're pushing hard for some kind of national broadband strategy. "As a first step, it is long past time for the Senate to pass The Broadband Data Improvement Act (S.1492), which would improve our nation's broadband data collection and provide funding to states for public-private partnerships to increase broadband deployment and adoption," says Allex Kellner of the policy firm Blue State Digital, hired by CWA to nudge lawmakers. "We are the only industrialized nation without a national policy to promote universal, high-speed Internet access -- and it shows," says CWA President Larry Cohen. "Most of our Speed Test users logged on with broadband connections such as DSL, cable modem or fiber. People with dial-up connections didn't take the test because it took them too long, so even these dismal statistics paint a rosier-than-reality picture of connection speeds across the country." Of course getting people to agree on what that national broadband policy should be is no short order. Many continue to believe we don't need one. Others would like to see some of the money spent on, say, war -- used to improve the national fiber infrastructure. The Broadband Data Improvement Act has broad approval because it puts its weight behind public-private partnerships such as Connected Nation, though it's not entirely clear that such organizations have anything more than the incumbent duopoly's interests in mind.
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 openbox9 join:2004-01-26 Alexandria, VA kudos:1 | I seriously doubt I doubt that residential ISP connections (where a majority of the data most likely comes from) are used for patient monitoring or transmission of large medical records.
The median upload speed from the speedmatters.org test was just 435 kilobits per second (kbps), far too slow for patient monitoring or to transmit large files such as medical records. | |
|  |  tiger72SexaT duorPPremium join:2001-03-28 Saint Louis, MO kudos:1 | Re: I seriously doubt in remote parts of the United States (the areas without ANY, or with very slow broadband) this would be a likelihood.
Also, there's the issue of caps that some of the above nations (Canada) has... | |
|  |  |  openbox9 join:2004-01-26 Alexandria, VA kudos:1 | Re: I seriously doubt So people will be transmitting large medical files from their residences? | |
|  |  |  |  tiger72SexaT duorPPremium join:2001-03-28 Saint Louis, MO kudos:1 | Re: I seriously doubt Local physicians in remote areas who need assistance would likely transfer large medical files to specialists and hospitals far away. Real-time patient monitoring requires a high throughput also. Think remote Montana, Wyoming, Maine, Alaska, etc. | |
|  |  |  |  |  | | Re: I seriously doubt I would hope they would do so encrypted. Also, I would imagine the hospitals they work for would have fiber. Then again, if they are TRULY remote and like a field doctor, they would have to rely on what's available. Still, I think MOST palces, MAYBE Alaska aside, would have adequate medical facilities within a 20 or 30 mile drive. Therefore, this might be a far stretch but it isn't implausible. | |
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Take Frontier for example. »Frontier Imposes 5 GB Cap For DSL | |
|  |  |  | | Canada also has speed throttling and traffic shaping. Canada snubbed their nose at net neutrality. | |
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| said by openbox9:I doubt that residential ISP connections (where a majority of the data most likely comes from) are used for patient monitoring or transmission of large medical records. That is the whole point.
Applications are not going to be deployed that need substantial bandwidth until a high enough percentage of the population has access to that capability.
This is a classic chicken and egg situation. Providers are able to claim (with some justification) there are no application that demand higher bandwidth. However once that bandwidth is made available you will see all sorts of novel applications being developed and deployed.
Do you thing You Tube, et al would have happened if we were all still using dialup?
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|  |  |  openbox9 join:2004-01-26 Alexandria, VA kudos:1 | Re: I seriously doubt That's not the whole point. Using patient monitoring and transmission of medical records to justify bigger pipes is not a sound way of making their point. Those practices typically occur within medical facilities that have access to business class services.said by tschmidt:Do you thing You Tube, et al would have happened if we were all still using dialup? Yet somehow YouTube was able to become as popular as it has today. Seems like the chicken and the egg situation is working ok. | |
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| Re: I seriously doubt youtube only started up in 2006, when broadband became popular in the United States. In other words, thanks to broadband, youtube was able to change how we consume video on the internet.
With further broadband development, we can only see an increase in innovation. The history of the internet is full of bandwidth-based innovation. The web itself only grew popular after the advent of 14.4k and then 28.8k modems. Streaming video begun its infancy at 33.6 and 56k modems. Napster and Kazaa would never have flourished were it not for DSL and Cable, and without broadband iTunes would never have been able to exist as a business model. Without broadband, you wouldn't have internet gaming, and xbox live would never have existed. Internet video rental services like XBL's and netflix streaming video wouldn't be here were it not for internetwork development.
As bandwidth increases, applications come up to use that bandwidth, and then bandwidth needs are increased again. Eventually there will be a limit, but 480kbps up and 2mbps down isn't it. -- "What makes us omniscient? Have we a record of omniscience? ...If we can't persuade nations with comparable values of the merit of our cause, we'd better reexamine our reasoning." -United States Secretary of Defense (1961-1968) Robert S. McNamara | |
|  |  |  |  | | said by openbox9:That's not the whole point. Using patient monitoring and transmission of medical records to justify bigger pipes is not a sound way of making their point. Those practices typically occur within medical facilities that have access to business class services. It certainly is - medical records are but a single facet of the ever growing need to accomodate more bandwidth for VOD services. Clearly you haven't been paying much attention to contemporary Internet trends. | |
|  |  |  |  |  openbox9 join:2004-01-26 Alexandria, VA kudos:1 | Re: I seriously doubt And once again, those needs are relatively easily accommodated with business class services. If hospitals or clinics require more bandwidth to push around hi-res, it's time to upgrade their DS-x or OC-x circuits. My point still stands, the union could have used more relevant examples to benefit their cause. | |
|  |  |  |  |  |  | | Re: I seriously doubt said by openbox9:And once again, those needs are relatively easily accommodated with business class services. So a residential account should be a business account if you want VOD? Sure. In an alternate universe, maybe, but meanwhile back in reality where the majority of Internet subscribers live, it ain't happening. | |
|  |  |  |  |  |  |  openbox9 join:2004-01-26 Alexandria, VA kudos:1 | Re: I seriously doubt If you'll look at the chain of this thread, I'm commenting on the CWA's choice to highlight medical records and patient monitoring as "needs" for significant broadband overhaul. Hospitals, clinics, and other medical institutions should already be using business class service which is relatively easily upgraded as demand warrants. Nowhere have I said anything about VoD. | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  wentlancYou Can't Fix Dumb.. join:2003-07-30 Maineville, OH | If the account is at the same location, then it does not matter if the service is residential or business. It's the same network drop. What if you were an ill person who needed monitoring, but it was available from your home instead of a hospital. What about security monitoring. Home care for the elderly.
Business versus Residential is a matter of service, not speed OR usage. Granted, you should not use a residential line to run your business internet access. That is that the business class of service was designed for.
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|  |  |  |  |  |  |  openbox9 join:2004-01-26 Alexandria, VA kudos:1 | Re: I seriously doubt It's not the same network drop. There are huge differences between RG-6 or RG-11 coax from a cableco, 4 or 6-wire copper, and fiber for DS-x or OC-x circuits and the capabilities that each are capable of providing. As for health monitoring from home, I can't imagine any of the equipment that would be available/affordable in the home are capable of producing large data sizes. We aren't talking about CT or MRI scanners.
The CWA shouldn't have used medical discussion points to boast their argument. | |
|  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  wentlancYou Can't Fix Dumb.. join:2003-07-30 Maineville, OH | Re: I seriously doubt There is NO difference in the network drop used when you compare between residential service and business class service from a cable company.
Again, I'm not talking about the internals of a medical WAN. I'm talking about the potential for someone to use their residence as a recovery room instead. Just because it's not done today, does not mean that it could not be done tomorrow. Open your mind some please.
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|  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  openbox9 join:2004-01-26 Alexandria, VA kudos:1 | Re: I seriously doubt So you're only talking about a cable company? Some cable companies do distribute business class service over fiber to the CPE. It just depend on the service requirements.
The whole point of this discussion is that the CWA stated "patient monitoring" and "medical records" has justifications for why more bandwidth is required. Most scenarios where those requirements exist already have the capability to add capacity to their network connections relatively easily. Even with a residence as a recovery room (yikes, not for me!), monitoring equipment simply doesn't require that much bandwidth. You'd be transmitting relatively small amounts of data for the medical readings....heart rate, blood pressure, temperature, glucose levels, etc.
My mind is very open, I just expect the CWA to make valid arguments when they're attempting to push their agenda. They have failed in this case. | |
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1 edit | Re: Internet has become a utility said by ossito16:Internet usage has become IMO a utility and thus should be regulated as such. ... I agree. It is essential. We are fast becoming a third world country. Capitalism seems to be running amok here. | |
|  |  openbox9 join:2004-01-26 Alexandria, VA kudos:1 | said by ossito16:Create a national sales tax to pay for maintaining the system. Great, another USF type of fee. That is not what this country needssaid by ossito16:All advertising monies tv or Internet based will go directly to fund system. Wow. How exactly do you expect that to work? | |
|  |  CorydonCultivant son jardinPremium join:2008-02-18 Denver, CO | If Internet access is a utility, then why not bill for it as such?
My guess is that most people here wouldn't like utility-style billing. We pay for electricity by the kWh. We pay for gas by the therm. Water and sewage is also usage based. So do you want to pay for Internet access by the MB? -- "Think for yourselves and let others enjoy the privilege to do so too." | |
|  |  |  dadkinsCan you do Blu?Premium,MVM join:2003-09-26 Hercules, CA kudos:18 | Re: Internet has become a utility said by Corydon:If Internet access is a utility, then why not bill for it as such? My guess is that most people here wouldn't like utility-style billing. We pay for electricity by the kWh. We pay for gas by the therm. Water and sewage is also usage based. So do you want to pay for Internet access by the MB? Many here wouldn't like it - they chew through LOTS of GB per month.
Now, me? At a whopping 30GB per month... why not? My bill will surely be reduced - like maybe by half(or more).
No, internet is not a utility. It is a luxury - can be considered a novelty. Maybe in the future it will become a utility, but it will have to SERIOUSLY advance before that time! -- Think outside the Fox... Opera | |
|  |  |  | | *sigh*, that old argument AGAIN. We pay for electricity by the kWh, because it COSTS MONEY to produce. We pay by gas by the therm because it COSTS MONEY to produce. We pay for water and sewage by the usage because it COSTS MONEY to CREATE/DISPOSE.
Look at it this way, we DON'T pay by the mile on non-toll roads. You are free too use the roads as much as you want. If you are riding your bike, you pay NOTHING to use it as much as you want. Granted, there was a HUGE capital cost to build the roads, and there are maintenance fees, but the actual USE of the roads costs nothing.
We build FIBER to everywhere. That's a HUGE CAPITAL cost, but once that's done, the only cost is maintenance and support. THERE IS NO COST to transmit a byte, just the cost to BUILD IT and SUPPORT IT. The building cost is CAPITAL, and the support cost, like a road, is not based on USAGE. -- The happiest countries are the most secular. The struggle AGAINST corporations is the struggle FOR humanity! | |
|  |  |  |  openbox9 join:2004-01-26 Alexandria, VA kudos:1 | Re: Internet has become a utility Your argument is old as well. Providing bandwidth and continual increases in capacity do require money. Support costs are based on usage for roads and the last mile infrastructure. The more people that use both resources, the more it costs to increase capacity and perform O&M. | |
|  |  |  |  |  | | Re: Internet has become a utility Some roads eventually need to be "widened". Sometimes you need a new road altogether.
The information superhighway... x2. It all costs money, just not in the same way that "utilities" figure costs. Most of the "more bandwidth" projects involve newer technologies being deployed. Most road projects are just more of the same old "tech" (asphalt, concrete, whatever). It's the orders of magnitude that differentiate the costs.
...and then there's wireless... | |
|  |  |  |  |  | | Yes, but as we were discussing, there is no UNIT cost for a byte. Just as there is no unit cost if 1 car uses the new highway, or 10,000 cars use the new highway. If you build it big enough, there is no traffic problem. Everything you described is capital costs. Building new roads to handle new traffic isn't a unit cost, it's a capital cost. Sure, we will need to continually upgrade the infrastructure, but hell, we spent 25 Billion dollars to rebuild the road through boston, and THAT is a non-toll road. So, the internet, like the roads, is a utility, which CAN BE used by all, but isn't necessarily used by all. -- The happiest countries are the most secular. The struggle AGAINST corporations is the struggle FOR humanity! | |
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 |  |  |  funchordsHelloPremium,MVM join:2001-03-11 Yarmouth Port, MA kudos:5 | said by karlmarx:Look at it this way, we DON'T pay by the mile on non-toll roads. You are free too use the roads as much as you want. If you are riding your bike, you pay NOTHING to use it as much as you want. Granted, there was a HUGE capital cost to build the roads, and there are maintenance fees, but the actual USE of the roads costs nothing. Gasoline taxes pay for both of these.
I do see broadband becoming a utility, but it won't be bill-by-the-byte exclusively. There will be a fixed "district" charge as well which will apply no matter how much or how little you use it. Usage will be added above that.
You can still pay in a "flat" manner. I pay all my utilities on my own "fixed" plan. I estimate my 12-month usage, double-pay my first bill and pay 1/10th of that estimate for several months. Then I actually open an envelope every 3-6 months or so and find out whether I'm on track. (Some utilities will do this for you, but usually only on accounts with a year or more of history.) -- Robb Topolski -= funchords.com =- Hillsboro, Oregon More fun, more features, Join BroadbandReports.com, it's free...
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|  |  |  |  |  | | Re: Internet has become a utility Again, we see to be stumbling on the 'by the byte' part of this. Please show me how it costs any more to transmit 1 byte, vs transmitting 1 megabyte?
The COST is exactly the same. Sure, if EVERYONE is using 1 megabyte, then you need to BUILD the infrastructure to support it, but that's what the monthly fee is for. To amortize the cost of building out, and to support the monthly maintenance.
NONE of that cost will change if the network is at 1% load vs 99% load. The COST to PROVIDE the service is a FIXED COST.
So why do you propose a VARIABLE pricing scheme for a FIXED COST product? That's just plain greedy. -- The happiest countries are the most secular. The struggle AGAINST corporations is the struggle FOR humanity! | |
|  |  |  |  |  |  funchordsHelloPremium,MVM join:2001-03-11 Yarmouth Port, MA kudos:5 | Re: Internet has become a utility I don't propose it, in fact I oppose it. But it's not an unworkable model and I don't let the fact that I personally don't like the idea keep me from talking about it objectively.
Bandwidth is a fixed cost product up to an ISP who acts as a bandwidth aggregater.
Because, as you rightfully point out, it doesn't cost any more or less to send 1 byte than it does 1 megabyte, an aggregater can take an amount of bandwidth (say 1000 Mbps) and divide it into subscriptions (say 10 Mbps each). And because not everyone will use those the Internet at the same time, he can sell more than 100 subscriptions and make more profit and/or lower subscription costs. As long as it works out that every user can admit or get his 10 Mbps, there's nothing wrong with this model.
So let's say he sells 101 subscriptions. After months of operations, he finds that he's not even close to using half of his 1000 Mbps connection.
So then he sells more and has 150 subscribers. Still not close
So then he goes for 250 subscribers. Now the numbers are comfortable. 95% of the time, his network and gateway are congestion free. -- Robb Topolski -= funchords.com =- Hillsboro, Oregon More fun, more features, Join BroadbandReports.com, it's free...
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 |  |  |  dvd536as Mr. Pink as they comePremium join:2001-04-27 Phoenix, AZ kudos:4 | said by karlmarx:*sigh*, that old argument AGAIN. We pay for electricity by the kWh, because it COSTS MONEY to produce. We pay by gas by the therm because it COSTS MONEY to produce. We pay for water and sewage by the usage because it COSTS MONEY to CREATE/DISPOSE. Look at it this way, we DON'T pay by the mile on non-toll roads. You are free too use the roads as much as you want. If you are riding your bike, you pay NOTHING to use it as much as you want. Granted, there was a HUGE capital cost to build the roads, and there are maintenance fees, but the actual USE of the roads costs nothing. We build FIBER to everywhere. That's a HUGE CAPITAL cost, but once that's done, the only cost is maintenance and support. THERE IS NO COST to transmit a byte, just the cost to BUILD IT and SUPPORT IT. The building cost is CAPITAL, and the support cost, like a road, is not based on USAGE. Every gallon of gas you buy has a tax so in effect you *ARE* paying for every mile you drive. -- When I gez aju zavateh na nalechoo more new yonooz tonigh molinigh - Ken Lee | |
|  |  |  |  |  wentlancYou Can't Fix Dumb.. join:2003-07-30 Maineville, OH | Re: Internet has become a utility said by dvd536:Every gallon of gas you buy has a tax so in effect you *ARE* paying for every mile you drive. Not if you are making your own fuel, such a bio-diesel. Would people that do be considered pirates then?
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|  |  |  |  |  |  funchordsHelloPremium,MVM join:2001-03-11 Yarmouth Port, MA kudos:5 | Re: Internet has become a utility said by wentlanc:said by dvd536:Every gallon of gas you buy has a tax so in effect you *ARE* paying for every mile you drive. Not if you are making your own fuel, such a bio-diesel. Would people that do be considered pirates then? haha cw You're right, but for now, the rationale is that such users (as a group) are desirable for their lack on environmental impact and there isn't a large call to figure out how to tax them. -- Robb Topolski -= funchords.com =- Hillsboro, Oregon More fun, more features, Join BroadbandReports.com, it's free...
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 GeekNJPremium join:2000-09-23 Waldwick, NJ | ... My only thought is, if the current cable infrastructure (FIOS, cable TV, etc) could handle the increased speed so no new cable needed to be run, would the CWA still care? This is a "project" by a union of cable workers. Nothing wrong with the union or the folks - just what my thought is on the overall "project".
My in-laws are more then happy with the low end DSL service. They don't need anything faster.
So personally, I'd rather see the same speed I have for less cost vs faster speeds I'm not going to use now anyway. Doesn't mean I won't want it faster in the future, but I'd rather have lower cost right now. -- Tweaked your connection? | Mail Parse | Speed Converter | |
|  |  | | Re: ... No the Cable companies are not part of the CWA that is the telco union.
They'll releae a "report" later on that claims they could do better blah blah blah. | |
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 | | looks like an at&t coverage map Time Warner and AT&T havent rolled out any faster speeds in a long minute here. I cant complain tho its kinda shocking to see how some of the rural areas are ranking. | |
|  | | Corporate America As long as we are a nation that let's corporate America write our laws through extensive lobbying of our government this will never happen. We could see 3rd world countries eclipse our speeds if the greed of wall street gets what they want. | |
|  |  SLDPremium join:2002-04-17 San Francisco, CA | Re: Corporate America The US is already suffering from third-world type corruption. 10 years ago, most people would say that the US was only minorly affectd by corruption. Now, it is widely understood that corruption is part of the process, and everyone shrugs - just like Mexiio. Bye bye USA. | |
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We could see 3rd world countries eclipse our speeds if the greed of wall street gets what they want. | |
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|  DogfatherPremium join:2007-12-26 Laguna Hills, CA 4 edits | Data is inaccurate representation, but shows 17% improvement Every time I ran a test there using my FiOS service (with both 50Mb and 20Mb tiers and my Cox service which typically gives me 20-25Mb results elsewhere) it would report 1/2 of the speeds I typically see even from distant servers and about 1/3 that local high capacity speed test sites report.
And you can't draw any conclusions from this other than their speed test server capacity is sorely lacking.
Meanwhile this time last year »Average U.S. Upstream Speed: 371kbps they reported upload speeds being 371kbps so even if we took these numbers at face value (which we obviously can't) it represents a 17% improvement.
And since when are people using residential upload speeds to send gobs of medical records? You think hospitals have 1500/384 DSL from Verizon? | |
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 MattAll noise, no signal.Premium join:2003-07-20 Jamestown, NC kudos:12 | One more thing
This is just one more thing where the US is lagging behind and moving to the middle of the pack. We're rapidly losing jobs, the economy is in the crapper, the dollar is plummeting, our healthcare/insurance system is a joke, and now we're moving the wrong way in broadband statistics. | |
|  wifi4milezBig Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace join:2004-08-07 New York, NY | In other news... ...The Elevator Operators Union has proclaimed that elevators are too slow in America. They propose a $25 billion upgrade to the nations elevators, and the hiring of an additional 100,000 elevator operators and technicians.
The president of the EOU, Jack Q. Swindler, had this to say:
"It takes the American worker an additional 4 seconds on average to reach his/her intended floor due to the outdated elevator infrastructure in this country. Independent tests have also concluded that the act of simply pressing the button (to indicate your desired floor) is confusing the American public. Thus, to increase productivity and improve the US economy the EOU insists all elevators revert back to having a (union) operator in each car." -- If history teaches us anything, it teaches that simple-minded appeasement or wishful thinking about our adversaries is folly. -Ronald Reagan-
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|  |  | | Re: In other news... Clever, but... The piss poor uptime we get from Time Warner is noticeably costing us in payroll and production. The slow transfer rates force employees to work more slowly when connected to our remote computers. It also annoys the employees who are adept at using computers quickly, reduces morale, and again reduces productivity.
The slow transfer rates limit backup solutions. The Gigabit speeds or even 100 Megabit speeds available from the Hong Kong Broadband Network would be capable of handling us sending data backups to our office (without even abusing our connection). However, since we are a small company with lease agreements to deal with, the fastest internet we can get is an oversold 15 Mbps. With downtime, network contention, and some companies sending us data two weeks or a month at a time, networked office backups will be at best, often out of date.
We can find plenty of money in government waste and funded illegal activities (read the Constitution, there are PLENTY of those) to fund something like public data networks, which will actually be used by the people funding it, unlike funding a study to determine that people outgrow wetting their bed. | |
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 Smith6612Premium,MVM join:2008-02-01 North Tonawanda, NY kudos:18 | lol... Based on this result, my DSL connection has about 4 times slower upload than the Average US speed. 128kbps lol. | |
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| Upload speeds can be better, so why aren't they! I've been wondering for years why we're not improving upstream speeds across the board here in the U.S. DSL for example if you live close enough is capable of I think 1.1Mbps upstream, so why is it that AT&T offers a max tier of just 768kbps? Even Verizon offers 864kbps sync rate while Qwest is doing 896Kbps. True at the moment not everyone will use it, but at least having it as an option at a decent price wouldn't be such a bad thing now would it? and why is it that only one cable provider in the entire country is offering upload speeds greater than 2Mbps? And in many cases, like mine, in order to get 2Mbps upstream, you need a business class connection that costs $119 a month, while other users can have 2Mbps residential service for $65 or whatever the price is. I've got a friend who has RoadRunner lite which in my area is 1.5Mbps/384Kbps. Why not offer for the same price that same 1.5Mbps downstream, with say 768Kbps or even 1.5Mbps upload, for those few times when they may wish to make use of it? In most if not all cable serviced areas, you can now get a top residential tier of at least 10/1, but how long before others began offering those speed options was Optimum online offering 10/1 to it's customers, while we sat at 3/256 speeds? Now they're offering 30/5, while we if we're lucky get 15/2 max? It's the same cable technology, so what's the hold up here! Just my rant on it all. | |
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|  | | Great, another CWA report... It sounds like the CWA has gotten into the think tank business because they seem to be releasing an awful lot of bullshit "studies" as of late. These guys are starting to remind of the Cato Institute, AEI, Center for American Progress, etc. - start with an assumption, message the data and write the study. Too bad there isn't a decent set of untainted, un-manipulated speed test results that could be used to validate/counter their results. -- --- Eleven years of carrying The Clue Bat... | |
|  |  | | Re: Great, another CWA report... True. and besides, the central goverment is far too fat as is. they should stay the hell away form the internet. | |
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