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Neshanic Station, NJ | Re: Probably... It was either T-Mobile or ATT for GSM networks. ATT already has the iPhone. T-Mobile needs this more than Google needs them. | |
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@optonline.net | I wish apple did the same thing, instead they released their outdated tech to a big carrier with a slew of bugs every phone manufacturer got over 3 years ago. | |
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join:2000-07-05
Greensboro, NC | Re: Probably... said by I agree :
I wish apple did the same thing, instead they released their outdated tech to a big carrier with a slew of bugs every phone manufacturer got over 3 years ago.
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NOCMan
Verizon Fios User
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join:2004-09-30
Flower Mound, TX
| Re: Probably... The only thing the iPhone brings that's new is the touch screen, better browser, and we'll that's about it really.
App Store = Qualcomm Brew
SMS = MMS and SMS have been around for awhile iphone does not support MMS.
GPS = Verizon has VzNavigator, Sprint has something as well or Nextel did at least.
Bluetooth = Been around, and does Apple even support stereo headsets? That's my biggest gripe with my iPod Touch no bluetooth for headphones.
Business features that blackberry had for quite some time. Though Blackberry seems to have outages every other week. I'll give Apple the nod that it's definately easier reading a file on a iPhone vs a Blackberry. | |
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cbrigante2
Cubs 20??
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North Aurora, IL | Re: Probably... Visual voice mail? | |
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join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA | Re: Probably... Who holds the patents to visual voicemail? Not Apple...
Though they do get points for implementing it, and pushing other carriers to do so as well. (Now when will VZW VVM make its way to anything other than the LG Voyager?) | |
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cbrigante2
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| Re: Probably... said by EPS  :Who holds the patents to visual voicemail? Not Apple... Though they do get points for implementing it, and pushing other carriers to do so as well. (Now when will VZW VVM make its way to anything other than the LG Voyager?) Exactly. If it wasn't for a product with the buzz about it like iPhone, I doubt the carriers would ever change a thing for lack of incentives. | |
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join:2002-01-23
Mullica Hill, NJ | Sprint resells Telenav as Sprint Navigation. | |
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@comcast.net | Thats "all" they brought was the new touch screen and better browser. Yeah, thats "all", just new tech that has revolutionized the mobile phone industry and they have patented by the way. Yeah thats all. lol | |
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join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA
| Re: Probably... The browser is based off of WebKit, which is open source and publicly available... Mobile Opera's not bad either.
As for Multitouch Patents? I've seen it claimed as well. However, I wonder about that- Microsoft has a commercial multitouch implementation, and Nintendo patented plans for a multitouch DS system (cut due to costs) way back in 2004. So I wonder if Apple's patents are specific enough that competitors can't do anything about it. (After all, RIMM owns patents on BlackBerry's keyboard, but that hasn't stopped Palm and others) | |
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join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA
| Re: Probably... I honestly doubt that Android will be a T-Mobile or even a GSM exclusive- isn't Sprint a member of the Open Handset Alliance?
HTC's specialty is GSM phones, and they usually release GSM versions of their phones long before CDMA equivalents. (And usually Europe/Asia long before the USA, if they reach our shores at all) Plus, I believe T-Mobile International (the 6th largest world cellular carrier) has been pushing this heavily. | |
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Nerdtalker
Working Hard, Or Hardly Working?
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join:2003-02-18
Tucson, AZ
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| Re: Probably... said by tiger72 :The GSM footprint in the USA is the same as the CDMA footprint. About = number of subscribers... However, you combine that GSM in the USA with GSM around the world, and you see quite quickly that it's the most popular platform, and the most profitable to develop first. And Google sees the importance of the global market for its first step into the world of cell phones. Number of subscribers can be deceptive, especially considering that what I'm talking about is actual coverage in terms of towers. I agree with you 100% that GSM is the network of choice all over the world, but in the US, CDMA is still king.
Talk to any AT&T customer or stare at their 3G map for a bit, and it'll be pretty obvious that from a network perspective CDMA is much more mature and deployed in the US than any respective GSM technology. There was a great animated gif overlaying AT&T's 3G network with that of Verizon + Sprint's CDMA EV-DO and then EV-DO REV. A offerings, and the difference is also laughable.
I only hope T-Mobile gets their 3G network rolled out en-masse fast enough that there isn't another iPhone-esque week long rant about complete lack of 3G network coverage everywhere but the major metropolitan areas. I fail to understand, yet again, why there is such exclusiveness with a provider who doesn't even have a mature 3G network.
I'll get an HTC Touch Pro to replace my HTC Mogul on my much cheaper SERO plan and play wait-and-see with android.
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join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA | Re: HTC Android video looks very like the HTC Touch Pro The Windows Mobile version of the HTC Touch Pro with CDMA is expected to come to Sprint and possibly Verizon as well around the same time, so that will be interesting to see- I wonder if it will be possible to flash the Touch Pro with Android? | |
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join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN | Re: HTC Android video looks very like the HTC Touch Pro It looks exactly the same. Imagine if they could dual boot the phone between wm and android. The phone would be unstoppable. | |
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join:2004-10-14
Arlington, VA | Re: HTC Android video looks very like the HTC Touch Pro Yes, that would be perhaps the best gadget ever conceived. Unfortunately the chances of Verizon getting an HTC Android phone this year are incredibly minute. | |
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Matt
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Jamestown, NC |  HTC = Functional
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@ameritech.net | I will stick with my iphone thanks Looks like yet another cheesy attempt to be a iphone. Sure the iphone has its share of bugs but I wouldn't trade mine in for that even if at&t had it. To be honest I wish verizon would get the iphone because thier service is way better then at&t. | |
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join:2005-01-01
Portland, OR | Re: I will stick with my iphone thanks yay for the sheep phone | |
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join:2008-01-23
West Milford, NJ
| I have the iPhone and it's really a very nice phone. Though, it's not without it's problems. First problem would be AT&T and the lack of 3G deployment. Second would be the amount of dropped calls on any of the services here in North Jersey. Then of course there are the small glithces the phone itself seems to have. Oh, and let's not forget you can't send an SMS with a photo so, no MMS. No copy and paste either and a slew of other small but sometimes annoying issues. But, I'd buy another one and I really like the phone overall. Best I've had so far. | |
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join:2005-11-07
Jersey City, NJ
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| Re: I will stick with my iphone thanks I bought my Iphone off of one of my coworkers. 200 bucks, took the sim card from my crackberry and inserted it into my iphone.
I have never had a positive experience with a GSM phone, the sound quality is horrible, calls get cut off, people sound like robots (like when you're trying to do a voice chat over a 56k modem connection). 2 Weeks ago, I was out on the west coast, drove down to Tijuana for the day, 2 blocks into mexico my AT&T signal got replace by some mexican phone company, i was 2 miles deep into mexico, and my sprint phone still had a connection from the states.
I go to canada, samething I could be within a couple of miles from the border and my sprint phone still works (not roaming). I alot of people swear by their GSM phones, but to me CDMA kicks ass. Sound quality and data services are far superior on CDMA than on GSM. I've seen speeds of 2+megabits tethering with my sprint phone. The most I've seen on a GSM network is 156 kilobits. | |
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cdru
Go Colts
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Fort Wayne, IN
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| said by THXultra :
Looks like yet another cheesy attempt to be a iphone... It's a good thing manufactureres don't just stop developing a product just because a competitor had already came out with a similar model. If they did, we'd never get anything new.
Just from the specs of the released phone, it looks like it has a few advantages over the iPhone: longer battery life, dual cameras, better main camera (3.2MP vs 2.0MP), CDMA (eventually), etc.
To me though the best thing it has going for it isn't that it has many of the same features that the iPhone has (which most touch screen phones are going to be getting anyways), but that it's Android powered. It has the power of the open source community behind it and is free (as in speech as well as beer). With the iPhone, Apple still hold all the cards and you have to play by their rules. | |
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join:2000-11-25
Phoenix, AZ
·Cox HSI
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1 edit | To Be Very Honest People showboating your I-Phone and saying AT&T
Apple approached Verizon Wireless 1st about the I-Phone. But Apple wanted to do the tech support for it and would charge Verizon for every call. Verizon said hell naw and then they asked the left overs AT&T LOL
I personally seen videos of the Android OS on the HTC Dream man this phone and OS is amazing!!
Look at the way you can unlock this phone
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join:2005-11-19
Covington, LA | Re: To Be Very Honest WOW!!! I'll take TWO..
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@charter.com
| Just so you guys know..........
Even though this may be the 1st Android based phone to hit the market, IT IS NOT the long awaited GPhone that everyone has been waiting for.
I just wanted to say this just in case all the nerds get overly disappointed with any of its specs.
The higher end GPhone will come next year. There may be several low to mid range Android based phones to hit the market before or after the coveted GPhone.
Android is just an OS. Just because a phone is Android based does not mean its intent is to be some form of direct iPhone competitor. | |
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| I would trade my iPhone 3G for it! iPhone 3G absolutely sucks with its lousy 3G problems and a battery that last about 5 minutes!
Here is the sort of problems I have had and Apple ignores:
iPhone Units
iPhone 3G was purchased on June 12, 2008
Crashed constantly with apps quitting all the time, 3G issues - 22 restores needed.
Came with 2.0 software and later I updated it to 2.0.1 when it came out.
First iPhone 3G replacement - August 1, 2008
Crashed constantly with apps quitting all the time, 3G issues, content disappeared from iPod app - 10 restores needed.
Received it from Tices Apple Store with 2.0.1 - new unit from new box.
Second iPhone 3G replacement - August 14, 2008
Apps quitting, 3G issues, content disappeared from iPod app - 1 restore needed.
Received it from GSP Apple Store with 2.0 and I updated it to 2.0.1 on first sync - was a replacement service part.
Crashing and Quits
Apps bought from App Store quit constantly. Many times when one app quits, then none of the others will launch anymore. Does not seem to matter which app or how many I have installed. Deleting and re-installing the apps does not help. Only a total restore and syncing the apps get them to run again. Until the next time they quit.
Sometimes an app will quit, killing the iPhone, leaving me with a white Apple logo. Once this happens nothing but a total restore will help. Holding down the Home key, restarting the iPhone or hard reset of the iPhone does not allow the iPhone to boot normally. Of course I am then left without even a phone.
Sometimes deleting or installing apps directly on the iPhone will crash it leaving you with white Apple logo that only a total restore will fix. I no longer install or update directly on the iPhone.
Running the iPhone without any apps from the App Store. iPhone still experienced problems with the Mail, Settings, Contacts, and Safari quitting. Lagging keyboard, slow scrolling, and slow Contacts (I have about 300) still present.
I have had to restore my first iPhone 3G about 22 times and I have restored this one about 9 times already. Most every time the iPhone has crashed I have lost the pictures I took and had to restore it as a new iPhone as iTunes tells me my backups are corrupted.
I have restored this using three different Intel Mac running Leopard 10.5.4 and iTunes 7.7.1, did not matter. I even went as far as uninstalling iTunes, setting up a new account and reinstalling iTunes, re-downloaded the iPhone firmware and the apps I bought, did not matter, still crashed and apps quit within a day.
The longest the iPhone has ever worked without needing a restore is 3 days. Usually I get a day, maybe two. I have had it crash twice in the same day.
3G Reception Problems
iPhone constantly switches between 3G and EDGE even in a strong 3G area like North Jersey or NYC. This results in dropped, garbled calls and slow Internet. Sometimes I must restart the iPhone to let see the 3G network.
iPhone iPod Problem
After syncing the iPhone and adding about 300 purchased music and video tracks, a few audiobooks and some podcasts the iPhone says there is no music on it when I launch the iPod app. Yet if you connect it to iTunes you can see the content and under Settings -> General -> About on the iPhone it shows the that the iPhone is almost half full.
This happened on first and second replacement iPhones that was synced with a different Mac. Both times I has previously played them and after the apps started quitting, they were no longer seen by the iPhone 3G.
iTunes 7.7.1 Problems
It takes forever to backup the iPhone, only to find out that the backups are useless as iTunes reports they are corrupted when trying to restore the iPhone.
iTunes has NO idea when an app has an update available. It reports updates when none are needed, it sometimes reports there are no updates when there are. Sometimes it wants to install 6 or 7 copies of the same app when it reports an update.
iTunes has a serious bug in that it does not delete or overwrite old app files it just re-creates them! Looking in the iTunes -> Mobile Application folder I found many versions of the same app, loading up my Macs hard drive with incremented numbers. This is true on three different Macs I have tried to sync with. Itunes does not overwrite or delete old version of the apps. At one point I had over 1 GB of files when it probably should have been one third of that.
If the iPhone is syncing with iTunes and a phone call or SMS message comes in, the iPhone sometimes either stops syncing or crashes so bad that it needs a restore.
I have had to change my iTunes Store password over 20 times this month as iTunes or the iPhone will tell me my password is no good. I then reset it and a few days later it says it is no good again.
MobileMe Problems
Can not sync subscribed calendars. Mail outages.
Sometimes Mail app will report I have emails, but when I open the Mail app I have to manually hit the refresh button to see any of them.
Apple's answer, give you a new phone with the same problems! To Apple, "It's the SOFTWARE stupid." | |
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North Aurora, IL | Re: I would trade my iPhone 3G for it! Those sound like some very specific issues that you are having. I know 4 people with the 3G iPhone and none of them have had anywhere near the issues you describe. | |
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join:2005-11-07
Jersey City, NJ
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
·Verizon FIOS
| What weird, abnormal and unnatural sex acts are you trying to do with your iphone hahahahaha..
dude... the iphone may not be for you hahahah.
I have a 1st gen iphone with 2.0.1 (unlocked) it syncs with no problems with my ical, mail, adressbook, entorage (cal & contacts) have 26 additional apps installed and I I have no issues. | |
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cork1958
Cork
join:2000-02-26
Fruitport, MI
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·Charter Pipeline
| I'll be switching! Been debating on ditching my T-Mobile, although it has been WAY better than the 2 times I've had Verizon and their "I bet you CAN'T hear me now" network.
NOT a Google fanboy like most people for one and don't want to go through with this more than likely buggy process!!
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join:2001-10-04
Mansfield, TX | fast to market, quick to burn i'll stick with my Nokia phone, kthnxbye
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T-Mobile To Get Google Android Phone First
HTC Android video looks very like the HTC Touch Pro