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join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ |  Wall st analysts predict - isn't that an oxymoron
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Camelot One
Premium,MVM
join:2001-11-21
Sarasota, FL
clubs:
| Re: Wall st analysts predict - isn't that an oxymoron At this point I have more faith in the "flip the coin" prediction method than I do in Wall Street "experts".
But given the recent trend, doom and gloom predictions are probably the safe bet.
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | If anything can be 'predicted', it would be slower rate of adoption of Uverse.
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| blips
join:2001-04-17
Addison, IL
1 edit | Speed it up? Maybe it should speed them up. As people cut cost they might decide that their cell phones are all they need and start cutting their land lines to cut down their month expenses. They need U-verse to keep these customers for defecting. | |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
 ·RoadRunner Cable
 ·DSL EXTREME
| Re: Speed it up? I'd like to see AT&T's adoption rate with POTS numbers in SoCal. I wonder how many have kept the landline, and how many have gone elsewhere (VoIP Vonage, T-Mobile @home, and Call Vantage which is no longer taking orders)
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join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA | AT&T as a whole is paying for customers. I recently signed up with local phone and DSL and AT&T gave me $175 for signing up and switching from cable. I only have to give 30 days and then I can drop service if I choose. | |
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maartena
Stacked.
Premium
join:2002-05-10
Orange, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
| said by blips  :Maybe it should speed them up. As people cut cost they might decide that their cell phones are all they need and start cutting their land lines to cut down their month expenses. They need U-verse to keep these customers for defecting. That's one reason for me NOT to switch to AT&T. I am actually impressed by their TV setup, I have seen it at a friends house and it seems to work really well, and they offer 2 HD streams now which is what I would need with my HDTV (recording 2 HD shows at once).
But the Internet side of it blows. I have 15/2 from RoadRunner (15/2 within the next month anyways, now 10/1) and U-Verse offers a maximum of 10/1.5, and that's it.
I also receive a $5 discount on my internet for having digital cable, so if I decide to keep RoadRunner, my monthly bill for internet will increase with $5.
Until they offer something better on the speed side, i most likely won't switch to U-Verse. | |
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contrary
@wayport.net
| Slow economy should speed UVerse customer growth The people I know who are switching to UVerse are switching away from Comcast and Time Warner cableTV/Internet, and they are saving money while getting more TV channels. Plus their Internet connections are much more reliable and consistent. So, in an economy in which people want more bang for their buck, AT&T should do well. | |
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C0deZer0
Oc'D To Rhythm And Police
Premium
join:2001-10-03
Davenport, FL
 ·Verizon FIOS
| New Generation would rather cut TV than i-net Simply, with newer generation customers (GenX/Y/Next), U-Verse for internet would be a more valuable incentive for these people than classical TV and landline services.
Right now, if it were up to me, I would cut the landline and TV and just keep internet and cell phone service as my necessity utilities. I hardly watch much TV at all anymore, and the landline effectively collects dust with few minor exceptions. If not for all the freebies that Verizon here tossed in to get us to keep it, I definitely think the roomies and I would have come to a consensus of getting rid of it altogether and sticking with our mobile phones.
I can't imagine it'd be that much different for "new generation" customers who live in areas primarily serviced by AT&T.
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join:2003-04-07
Round Rock, TX
| What? The only reason why AT&T would miss this target is because of internal problems associated with installing the services. Based on my experience, installation takes forever and its not because of the installers. Most of their time was spent on the phone with someone in the back office. In most cases U-verse prices beat competitors. Who does not want to get paid $200 to switch providers? Seems to me that folks would be more interested in lowering their bills in a down economy. | |
| JSRoman
Premium
join:2005-03-10
Callahan, FL | AT&T won't hit their numbers. Lots of pain coming in next couple of weeks.
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join:2005-02-12
Houston, TX |  Re: AT&T won't hit their numbers.
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maartena
Stacked.
Premium
join:2002-05-10
Orange, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
| It's the economy, stupid! I wouldn't be surprised if ALL companies who had plans laid out for this year would have to put some of them on hold. Although the technology sector isn't hit as hard as the financial one, people aren't spending the same kind of money anymore on TV and Internet connections, and people who are moving out of their foreclosure into a rental may be happy with just broadcast TV and a cheap $19.95 DSL for the time being.
No matter how you look at this crisis, it WILL hit everyone in some way or another, and every major corporation will see decreased profits, and what seemed like a sound investment 6 months ago, may not be so profitable currently, especially if U-Verse was scheduled to roll out in an area with many medium to medium-low incomes, who would have been able to afford it 2 years ago, but may not be so willing to spend that kind of money now.
As for missing the target, you can provision an area for U-verse, but that does not mean you are going to sell any subscriptions. And my guess is that even if their rollout plan sticks, they may not sell as much subscriptions as previously predicted.
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join:2007-03-10
Bon Aqua, TN | Re: It's the economy, stupid! Yeah.. I'm pretty much going to be on ISDN until the economy "really" recovers, and even then wimax will be more likely to be placed here due to unknown reasons..... | |
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join:2007-03-10
Bon Aqua, TN | Re: It's the economy, stupid! I have it through ATT, its about $44 a month plus my isp for 128k isdn is 18.95... its all I can get thats reliable for gaming.. Evdo just didn't cut it for my wow account... So i'm on isdn till I die I guess.. | |
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maartena
Stacked.
Premium
join:2002-05-10
Orange, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
| Re: It's the economy, stupid! said by decifal :So i'm on isdn till I die I guess.. Or till you move to a city with cheap broadband. | |
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join:2007-03-10
Bon Aqua, TN
| Re: It's the economy, stupid! said by maartena :said by decifal :So i'm on isdn till I die I guess.. Or till you move to a city with cheap broadband. If everyone that wanted broadband had to move to the city, the city would be come soo over crowded it would be like mini chinas everywhere.. I don't live in a rural area, its just one of those areas that hasn't been upgraded "yet" ... I've seen lesser populated areas upgraded probably due to some sorta cost effectiveness..
To me personally, no option is great if theres a range limitation of 5 miles etc.. Isdn, no limitation, however... Its speed isn't what you would call "broad" | |
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join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY | Re: It's the economy, stupid! Tennessee is one of the few places that requires ISDN to be available everywhere where POTS is and with similar price, its in the state tarrifs, so the ILEC can't get around it. Its TN attempt at universal broadband circa 1994 :-D | |
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join:2007-03-10
Bon Aqua, TN
| Re: It's the economy, stupid! said by patcat88 :Tennessee is one of the few places that requires ISDN to be available everywhere where POTS is and with similar price, its in the state tarrifs, so the ILEC can't get around it. Its TN attempt at universal broadband circa 1994 :-D God where in the hell are these people that managed to get this passed in 94? I want em to do the same for at least 1.5mbps dsl!!! Not going to happen, but let a fella dream, k? | |
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join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
1 edit | Re: It's the economy, stupid! said by decifal :said by patcat88 :Tennessee is one of the few places that requires ISDN to be available everywhere where POTS is and with similar price, its in the state tarrifs, so the ILEC can't get around it. Its TN attempt at universal broadband circa 1994 :-D God where in the hell are these people that managed to get this passed in 94? I want em to do the same for at least 1.5mbps dsl!!! Not going to happen, but let a fella dream, k? BTW, IDSN has the same distence limitation as DSL, 18000 feet. Adtran extended reach can do 23000 feet, anything more requires repeaters in the field (they can be line powered) or fiber. Remember ISDN is a seriously neutered T1 line.
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Q. Why is it less expensive in Tennessee?
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The residential rate for ISDN in Tennessee is approximately $20. This is because ISDN is part of a larger technology program specific to Tennessee where a "pool" of funds has been set aside to assist (or supplement) customer rates on certain technology (which includes ISDN). This rate has been set independent of the cost associated with providing ISDN and can exist only because the technology program covers the remaining costs.
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oolisfast
@optonline.net
| said by maartena :foreclosure into a rental may be happy with just broadcast TV and a cheap $19.95 DSL for the time being. I used to think the way you did, about 5 years ago, i had to sell my home and rent. Truth is, while the DSL is nice for mixed media, try watching just a non HD movie on one computer and your lucky others in the house can just bring up webpages. I took kindof that route but it gets boring, so i got a dvd player and started to watch movies, renting them through Netflix. Not before long, i caved in and got cable, I thought I would find it a ripoff but I am so glad I went back to it. My deal is the triplay and 2 dvd's a month netflix, a nice mix to keep from getting bored.
I was still bored, my sister had cable at the time in her nearby apartment and one of the things I have come to find about cable is that there really is plenty to watch, cable & internet together really fill in that void. Rentals are good but predictable, another words, after that 2 hrs is up on the movie its not let me change the channel and cable guides me, its hmmm, what do i watch now, i've already seen this, and this, and this.
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spg
Grrrr
join:2001-10-31
NOT Texas!
| Puhlease... I think the better question is what WON'T be affected by the economy?
People are going to try to figure out ways to feed their kids. Phones, TV, internet are going to be the LEAST of their worries.
Companies that won't be laying off will certainly not be hiring. Combine that with people who will be delaying their retirement because of the market and we're going to have high unemployment for some time.
Unemployment = beans & macaroni&cheese, not steak. | |
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gdm
Premium,MVM
join:2001-06-15
Mchenry, IL
clubs: | Re: Even though I am not saving a dime You really think any of the other ISP's aren't handing information over? The reason everyone is pissed with ATT is they got caught. What if it was Verizon, TW or Comcast?
Don't think your information isn't being handed over... | |
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gex0r
@sbcglobal.net
| Re: Even though I am not saving a dime Comcast has been monitoring and turning over information about the content of downloads since at least 2003 to mpaa and riaa. It was stated in the fine print of contract I signed back in the day for my cable internet.. once I finally read it, I was like: WTF? and ditched them immediately. Unfortunately, in this day and age, and because of the patriot act, "they" can monitor anyone at any time for any reason, and just say it's national security. | |
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runner
@sbcglobal.net
| dsl when your other option is Charter, UVerse is a great choice.
The internet speed is pretty much rock solid, unlike my prior cable connection which was never consistant at all. TV quality is much better as well. No need for telephone, i use my mobile for everything. | |
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