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Little Rock, AR | Trained? Really? Whole thing sounds made up. I've never met a Walmart employee who was trained to do anything but look confused. | |
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Vathral
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New York, NY
clubs: | Re: Trained? Really? Better yet, I didn't know they even got training. | |
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join:2004-07-11
Livonia, MI | Re: Trained? Really? The usual training they get:
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Fetch
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Dogfather
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join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA | Re: Trained? Really? Gotta love nerd snobs. | |
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BronsCon
join:2003-10-24
Cleveland, OH | Re: Trained? Really? My fiancee worked for Walmart for a while and the above is actually pretty accurate. They train and treat their employees like animals; do what we say, when we say, or you don't get to go for a walk or eat today. | |
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Gerard780
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join:2002-01-25
Simpsonville, KY | Re: Trained? Really? I finally broke down and bought one last week after hearing how great it is..
I'm finding out it's more of a love-hate relationship..
I love some of the things it does, but absolutely hate others..
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N3OGH
Bear patrol must be working like a charm
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join:2003-11-11
Philly burbs
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| Re: Trained? Really? Most of my friends love the gadget portion of the phone. Internet, maps, apps, etc.
But, most say the phone portion is crappy.
I had a Palm Treo for about 4 days. I HATED it. It was too big, too clunky, and didn't do the things I needed, mainly e-mail, well.
I wanted an iPhone when it first came out, but I wanted to stay with Verizon. Now, I think I'll be going with a Crackberry when my contract is up in May. Not necessarily the Storm, but something with push e-mail & a QWERTY keyboard.
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PolarBear
The bear formerly known as aaron8301
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join:2005-01-03 | Re: Trained? Really? Once you start using Crack(berry), you never go back. | |
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PolarBear
The bear formerly known as aaron8301
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join:2005-01-03 | Re: Trained? Really? Yes, we've had that debate. All I have to say is, the term "Crackberry" exists for a reason. | |
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2 edits | said by PolarBear  :Yes, we've had that debate. All I have to say is, the term "Crackberry" exists for a reason. Yes. That reason is that they were the first to get mobile text messaging mostly right. People are no more addicted to them, specifically, as than they are addicted to TiVo or AIM over the other products in those categories. (I think you mistake people's addiction to communication for an addiction to a particular, rather lousy, product line.) And RIM/BlackBerry been resting their huge haunches on those laurels for many years now. It's long past time for them to disappear. I didn't expect it would be Apple to make that happen though.
Edit: To your last post, no, my Blackberry was several years newer than my old PocketPC phone, and it still stunk up the room. It felt like going from an airy forest to a prison. Yes, I've seen and worked on the even newer models and am still unimpressed.
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P.S. WindowsCE/PocketPC is still a mess in its own right, but I'll take it over BlackBerry and Java any day.
Edit2: Word choice struck.
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Matt
Gone playing Dragon Age Origins
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Jamestown, NC
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| said by PolarBear :Yes, we've had that debate. All I have to say is, the term "Crackberry" exists for a reason. It does. No one has gotten email right for BlackBerry users, not even the iPhone. I've tried to convert BlackBerry users to the Windows Mobile Platform and one user to an iPhone and they both sent the phones back after 2-3 days ... for a BlackBerry.
I like WM just fine and I used a BB for a few years, but the vast majority of folks who use a BB won't even touch the Storm because of the on-screen keyboard. My girlfriend and I played around with one when looking for a replacement phone for her this weekend and both of us hated it. It was sloooooow and extremely inaccurate. | |
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| I must disagree. I recently stopped using a BlackBerry and went back to an incredibly flaky PocketPC phone -- and I'm much happier. Blackberries stink, largely because they don't actually do anything (except bounce e-mail through Canada and display it in plain text).
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PolarBear
The bear formerly known as aaron8301
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join:2005-01-03 | Re: Trained? Really? Sounds like you may have had an older, less capable model. The new models do everything. I can't live without mine, as I basically use it as a PC when I'm away from home. | |
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join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD | Re: Trained? Really? I have an 8703 BB with Verizon and I hate the thing. Only reason I have it is for work.
I like my G1 way better than the BB. | |
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join:2000-09-16
Portland, OR
| said by N3OGH :"Save Money, Live Better" Don't know how much better 2 bucks would make my life..... BTW, just about everyone I know that has an iPhone doesn't like it..... A friend has an iPhone and it's pretty nice. What I hate is trying to help them get songs onto it. iTunes has to be one of the worst programs I've encountered (for usability) in a long time.
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N3OGH
Bear patrol must be working like a charm
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join:2003-11-11
Philly burbs
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| Re: Trained? Really? "You are an anomaly in not finding happy iPhone users.".
It could be that all of the people I know that have iPhones are also co workers...
I don't deny the iPhone is both well liked and popular, I was just citing my personal experience.
I certainly don't doubt your chart, especially the rating on the Palm. I hated that thing.
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PolarBear
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join:2005-01-03 | As I've said before, the iPhone is ONE model of phone, while the other manufacturers have dozens of phones. Sure, Apple can make ONE nice phone, but can they make 10 or 20 really good ones like RIM, LG or Nokia? | |
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Dogfather
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Laguna Hills, CA | Re: Trained? Really? Question is do they need to? Apple outsells all WM handsets combined. Apple outsells all RIM handsets combined. (In the US sales from what I read anyway). | |
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Hingham, MA | Re: Trained? Really? Your thing about the RIM handsets doesn't match up with what I've seen- the iPhone outsells any RIM model by themselves, but not combined. | |
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PolarBear
The bear formerly known as aaron8301
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join:2005-01-03
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| That may be true, but I think a more realistic comparison would be all Apple phones vs. all Blackberry phones, or all Nokia phones, etc. What everyone fails to realize is that the iPhone is ONE model of phone, whereas BB or Nokia puts out dozens of models.
It's akin to saying the Explorer has sold more than the Tahoe or Suburban or Trailblazer; sure it has, but does that mean Ford sells more than Chevy? Of course not. Comparing one model to a group of models just doesn't make sense. | |
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ptrowski
Got Helix?
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| Re: Trained? Really? said by PolarBear :That may be true, but I think a more realistic comparison would be all Apple phones vs. all Blackberry phones, or all Nokia phones, etc. What everyone fails to realize is that the iPhone is ONE model of phone, whereas BB or Nokia puts out dozens of models. It's akin to saying the Explorer has sold more than the Tahoe or Suburban or Trailblazer; sure it has, but does that mean Ford sells more than Chevy? Of course not. Comparing one model to a group of models just doesn't make sense. Maybe because this is the first phone Apple has made. Kind of hard to compare a whole line of Apple phones when there is basically 2 of them. | |
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join:2002-04-10
| While 79 percent is impressive, this survey is not comprehensive. It first states it used 3,597 consumers. However, there are several flaws with this survey, which make me not take this data at face value.
It should be first noted, the Iphone was released in July 2007 and this survey was done in march. That is ample time for someone to test out their phone, but this leads to one major problem and FLAW.
Of those people surveyed, I did not see a qualifier on time of ownership. Maybe 2000 of these people owned their Iphone for a few weeks? It's like buying a shiny new car, it's always great when you first get it, but constant use tends to show the major bugs. People are on their new item "High". This is a MAJOR oversight on this survey which lends a great doubt to it's accuracy. A good Pre Qualifier on this empirical data would have been a minimum ownership. I did not see this. So 79 percent being happy, while impressive, is something I fail to take at face value. Re-conduct this survey now, and see what the data shows is my thought. | |
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Gone playing Dragon Age Origins
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| said by Dogfather :You are an anomaly in not finding happy iPhone users. All the studies I've seen have iPhone near the top of the list, soundly beating smartphone competitors like RIM. » apple20.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/20···s-at-54/ Take out the Apple fanatics who like anything Steve craps out and the people who's first experience with a PDA style phone is the iPhone and what do you end up with? When you only have 9% of the market as the graph at your link shows, you're bound to have less people who are dissatisfied.
I think the more interesting link is that as the iPhone market has grown from 4% to 9%, RIM's market has gone up an equal percentage, from 38% to 42%. Clearly BlackBerry owners aren't buying iPhones. | |
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join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA
| Re: Trained? Really? That's actually a really good point about people's first experience with a smartphone being the iPhone... new owners tend to be more satisfied than those who have had the device for awhile and found all the little annoying bits that you ignore or miss at first. Also, new devices tend to work better than old devices...
I wouldn't be surprised if that's also part of the reason Palm's scores are so low- they haven't done much to get new users lately, so a big bulk of the users are probably experienced Treo types who have been suffering with outdated devices for years thanks to Palm's inaction and have only stuck with Palm out of misguided loyalty. | |
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Wills
join:2001-01-03
Port Charlotte, FL
| Who is going to spend $400 on an iPhone, then openly admit that it's a horrible phone and that the only reason they bought it was to make sure their e-penis is just as long or longer than everyone elses?
Ever think that's the reason why 79% of all iPhone users are happy? | |
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join:2000-10-28
| Re: Trained? Really? No. Again, as stated eloquently above, the first time one uses any cool new thing -- of its type -- for the first time, one is impressed.
First time DVR users, of whatever brand, are amazed and astounded (and loyal) when they see what they can do.
First time converged device (SmartPhone/PDA/etc.) users are amazed at what they can do with a single device, and are impressed and loyal... for the honeymoon period at least. Many iPhone users have never owned a cell phone that could do what the iPhone can do, so it's all new to them. (By contrast, some of us greeted it with a yawn.) The iPhone is still in its honeymoon period, not to mention that Apple is typically a heck of a lot better at satisfying users than Palm or Microsoft.
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| said by Squidii :Whole thing sounds made up. I've never met a Walmart employee who was trained to do anything but look confused. Or give you attitude when you politely ask for help.
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swintec
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Alfred, ME | Just like the Wal-Mart Wii... The Wii at Wal-Mart is about $1 cheaper as well...nothing to special. | |
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Dogfather
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Laguna Hills, CA | Re: Just like the Wal-Mart Wii... It's nothing special in terms of price, but it certainly is in terms of Apple getting the phone displays in front of consumer's noses. Wal*Mart obviously has a huge retail footprint. | |
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Dogfather
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Laguna Hills, CA | Re: Just like the Wal-Mart Wii... And that is the reason I think this is a big deal for Apple. There are plenty of places I would imagine have neither an Apple Store or AT&T store while they do have a Wal*Mart. | |
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I came, I saw, I slept
join:2004-06-26 | Cool The folks who waited in line to pay five bills must be in a twitter at the prospect of waiting for the next lineup at the O-Apple corral 
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join:2004-04-24
Floral Park, NY
| just cut regular prices! after the holidays.. Ooooooh, that will piss off alot of customers.. but too bad!
Make all ipod & ipod touch models less money... 8gb=$99 16gb=$199 32gb=$299 just for the sake of lower flash memory prices!
See, I'm not getting one of these.. but when their competitors lower their prices, I will pull the trigger and get a competitive product!
Hint hint, Archos, Cowon, Micosoft, Sandisk.... or for phones, HTC, Crackberry, LG, etc... | |
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@mycingular.net | Happy iPhone owner I've had my iPhone for well over a year, and have had both a Treo and a Blackberry before, and I love my iPhone. Best phone I've ever had. And I don't own any other Apple products either. Guess I'm an anomaly. | |
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
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join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ | yawn if its A T & T, Thanks but no thanks! | |
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dumwaldo
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join:2001-03-12
| apples, berries, winmos and palms You are all blinded by an industry that has manipulated you so much with cheap and free phones that you don't even realize the #1 smartphone platform in the world (by a really wide margin too) is essentially ignored here in the USA.
Taste S60 and don't look back.
My Nokia N95-4 eats Iphones for snacks but it is nowhere near as user friendly as an Idiotphone
The problem is Americans do not want a powerful and versatile phone, they want one that is easy. The Iphone is lacking in plenty of ways to a power user but most people are just not that savvy and they just want something that's easy. | |
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join:2000-06-08
Glendale, CA
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| Re: apples, berries, winmos and palms Exactly. They just want something easy...it's funny when I see my friend getting frustrated with his iphone. He sits there waiting forever for a page to load. I think he spends more time waiting for stuff to load than talking to anyone  | |
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