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Film Studios Sue Australian ISP For Not Filtering
'We are not traffic cops,' says ISP CEO
by Karl Bode 06:42PM Thursday Nov 20 2008
iiNet, one of Australia's largest ISPs, has been sued by seven Hollywood studios for failing to stop the transfer of pirated content across their network. According to ComputerWorld, iiNet says the studios expect the impossible, company CEO Michael Malone telling the website "we are not traffic cops." "We can't stand in the middle of it and stop the individual items that might be against the law," he says. "These guys are asking us to be judge, jury and executioner." As we noted last week, Malone's company is participating in Australia's plans for national, mandatory internet filters to highlight how they won't work.

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DEFIANTx

join:2005-04-14
Portland, OR

Pirates 1 - Filtering Content 0

And so it begins...

88615298
Premium
join:2004-07-28
West Tenness

1 recommendation

Would Hollywood sue the Post Office

for not stopping pirated copies of movies being delivered by mail? No of course not. Can someone explain the difference?
EPS4

join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA

1 recommendation

Re: Would Hollywood sue the Post Office

People realize how difficult it would be for the Post Office to have to prove everything that goes through the mail is legitimate, but too many people are still under the delusion that all ISPs have to do is hook it up a few boxes, and suddenly all piracy will end.
Kearnstd
Space Elf
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Mullica Hill, NJ
kudos:1
no the pirates will just encrypt. just like how smugglers will hide the cocaine in coffee beans when mailing it to throw off the dogs.
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Stumbles

join:2002-12-17
Port Saint Lucie, FL

I got it.

Hmmm, that sounds a lot like a mobster, erm, rackateer, erm, the **AAs business (ya ya that's it) suing a government for letting illegal CD/DVDs being carted over the highways.

Doctor Four
My other vehicle is a TARDIS
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join:2000-09-05
Dallas, TX

Re: I got it.

said by Stumbles:

Hmmm, that sounds a lot like a mobster, erm, rackateer, erm, the **AAs business (ya ya that's it) suing a government for letting illegal CD/DVDs being carted over the highways.
And this is why the **AAs are often referred to as the MAFIAA.

In some ways this action by them is remarkably similar to the French SPPF suing Limewire, Morpheus, Vuze and SourceForge. And equally likely to fail as well.
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"The trouble with computers, of course, is that they are very sophisticated idiots." - Doctor Who (from Robot)
MySay

join:2008-04-08
Mansfield, TX

Re: I got it.

"And equally likely to fail as well."

Your definition of failing in this matter is different than mine. The fact that they are EVEN ABLE to sue is a "win" for them! Perhaps they may "loose" the ruling in this case, it still won't prevent them from targeting the next guy... and sick their lobbied bulldogs after them!

It's kind of like spear-fishing! The hungry one is going to make a LOT of misses, but eventually he'll hit the jackpot... making his efforts worth wild! Rinse, and repeat!

jmn1207
Premium
join:2000-07-19
Ashburn, VA
kudos:1

Re: I got it.

It doesn't matter how long you spear-fish in a jacuzzi, you ain't ever gonna catch any fish. You're just wasting time and energy.
nitzan
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join:2008-02-27
kudos:7

Re: I got it.

said by jmn1207:

You're just wasting time and energy.
And money - for both sides.

Sure, The MAFIAA can afford it - but the ISPs cannot afford to lose money on legal fees. Eventually they'll just resort to giving up and letting the MAFIAA have what they want.. "just don't sue us".

Real mob: "do what we tell you to or we'll break your legs"
MAFIAA: "do what we tell you to or we'll break your wallet"

Same difference, same end result. (eventually)

Governments need to step in and stop this by outlawing frivolous lawsuits like this.
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Future Nine Corporation
cornelius785

join:2006-10-26
Worcester, MA

Re: I got it.

what do you mean the MAFIAA will lose money? they'll just find someone to extort money from (whoops, i mean sue) to ensure they stay in the black.
nitzan
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join:2008-02-27
kudos:7

Re: I got it.

I stand corrected.

jmn1207
Premium
join:2000-07-19
Ashburn, VA
kudos:1

Re: I got it.

Ok, so college students are the unwilling, primary investors in the RIAA's cause, but I think that the ISP's have a ton of money, and a lot of resources. If this was not the case, we'd already be knee deep in the same crap that the much smaller ISP's in Australia are involved in.

Comcast, AT&T, and Verizon are not as easy to push around. But that is the only thing saving us all from a disaster at the hands of the RIAA.

MrMoody
Free range slave
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join:2002-09-03
Smithfield, NC

See

When you agree to be traffic cop, you get sued for failing.

KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK

Re: See

said by MrMoody:

When you agree to be traffic cop, you get sued for failing.
Yep. You get sued if you try and fail. You get sued if you stop something incorrectly; You get sued if you fail to stop something. In other words, you lose all around.

It's not worth the headache or expense.
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"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini

meh37

@verizon.net

Another one bites the dust...

I stopped buying music long ago, when the RIAA started suing [everyone]. I guess I'll stop buying movies now.

gigablaster

@verizon.net

Re: Another one bites the dust...

Same!

Mashiki
Balking The Enemy's Plans

join:2002-02-04
Woodstock, ON
kudos:1
I stopped buying and going to the movies a few years ago and went back to books. At least there's some decent writers.
TheMG
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Canada
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I still go to the movies, but if I want to watch a movie a second time then I just download it. I only buy movies which are worth watching several times over, and that does not happen very often at all, only have 20 purchased movies over the course of 5 years.

88615298
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join:2004-07-28
West Tenness

Re: Another one bites the dust...

said by TheMG:

I still go to the movies, but if I want to watch a movie a second time then I just download it. I only buy movies which are worth watching several times over, and that does not happen very often at all, only have 20 purchased movies over the course of 5 years.
Well you are part of the problem then. If it was worth watch logically it is worth paying for. If the movie is so crappy it's not worth paying for then why bother downloading and watching it. That's like eating a plate of dog crap because it was free.

Sorry, but if movies and TV shows are that bad they aren't worth what the studios charge then yous peak wth your wallet and you don't buy. That doesn't mean you steal or "copy". The fact is if a millon people steal a movie then they aren't sending the message that the movie is crap and has no value they are giving the studios the exact OPPOSITE impression. And this in turn gives the studios the supposed ammo they need to go after downloaders. Anyone that says they download to "get back" at the studios are either delusional, lying or just plain stupid.

ArrayList
netbus developer
Premium
join:2005-03-19
Evanston, IL
Reviews:
·Comcast
said by TheMG See Profileonly have 20 purchased movies over the course of 5 years.
[/BQUOTE :


wow. thats alot of movies to buy.

treetop1000

join:2003-11-07
Lexington, KY

No longer need this business model

and the only people who have the right to get paid for their product can no longer control said products after the sale and now they want the government to step in and do their job for them. I say OK! and then bill the RIAA and the MPAA for operating (failed) business model.
Bill them for costs, hiring, training, distributin of product, -and- cost accounting.
In short, if the lawyers want to "solve" this business model crisis, make it expensive to do so. Nobody said the government handouts had to be free...

Cheese
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join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL
kudos:1

Why are.....

I don't understand how a US based company is able to sue in a foreign court. Just makes no sense.

ArrayList
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Re: Why are.....

said by Cheese:

I don't understand how a US based company is able to sue in a foreign court. Just makes no sense.
there are international copyright laws... supposedly. i dont have a clue where to even look that kind of stuff up.

no one

@rr.com

Pirating

Been doing it for years, and will continue to download my music and my movies. Just because i feel like it. Dark Knight was awesome, best batman yet.