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A Comparison of Cloud Storage Options
Amazon S3, Backblaze, iCloud, Google Drive, Dropbox
by ryan711 Wednesday 18-Jul-2012 tags: prices · business · alternatives · bandwidth · content · consumers · cloud
"Cloud" is the new industry buzzword, but really, it is just a new name for what we’ve already had for the past 10+ years: online server storage. Of course the term "cloud" can mean many other things, but in the consumer space, the marketing speak is typically referring to online storage. Online storage solutions are a dime a dozen these days, and it can be hard to determine what company to go with. Hopefully this article will remove some of the confusion.

Best High Redundancy Cloud Storage: Amazon S3

This is the type of storage that you should store things such as photos, documents, financial records (encrypted first of course), etc. on. It is built specifically to handle drive loss in the datacenter without losing you data; actually, it handles many drive failures. Keep in mind that most decent cloud storage solutions are at least n+1 redundant storage. However, that is not enough for me to store my high value files.

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This type of storage is typically more expensive than others which is why you only want to store things that are very important and don’t take up too much space. Therefore, you wouldn’t want to store your 1080p home movies of your dog here unless you really, really care about your dog’s home movies.

Anyway, the best high redundant storage in my opinion is Amazon S3. S3 stands for Simple Storage Service. Amazon offers two levels of redundant storage at different price levels. If you want to have the high redundancy, you want to make sure to purchase the more expensive version. Amazon offers 99.999999999% durability of files stored on its S3 service. No, I didn’t have a stroke on the ‘9’ key, that is actually what they provide.

The good thing is that if you are only storing things like photos and the like, this is very cheap. For the first 1TB of storage you purchase, the cost is only 12.5 cents per gigabyte per month. Meaning I can store 50GB for a little over $5 per month. A very good deal for the amount of redundancy they provide.

Best Unlimited Cloud Storage: Backblaze

Nothing is ever truly unlimited, but this is probably as close as you’re going to get. There are several cloud storage providers that offer unlimited storage, and they’re all about the same as far as speed goes, at least in my experience. The reason I chose Backblaze is because they’re very transparent about their storage hardware and facilities on their blog, even going so far as to offer the AutoCAD design of their custom storage enclosure that they use themselves.

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This is where I store all my large video files and anything that is too cost prohibitive to store on Amazon S3. They offer a nice backup utility, which makes backing up your stuff extremely easy, even for the most novice users.

There is also a new type of cloud storage and syncing service starting to emerge, mainly due to the advent of modern smartphones. The two most prominent are the offerings from Google and Apple. They both offer about the same thing, and the determination will really depend on what phone OS you use and whether or not you use Gmail or not.

iCloud, Apple’s offering if you couldn’t already tell, offers you an iCloud email address, photo syncing across devices, 5GB of sync storage, and contact syncing among other things. Google offers roughly the same thing. If you’re willing to get a new email address and you have an iPhone or other apple products, iCloud is your best bet; otherwise, I would stick with Google’s offering.

There’s also another player in the yard who practically invented the ability to sync a single folder across multiple machines, or at least made it work. Dropbox has been around for a few years, and they offer a good service. However, now that the main smartphone manufacturers have gotten into the game, it will be interesting to see if Dropbox is squeezed out of its own market.

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A non

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No Carbonite? No Crash Plan?

This article is not much of a "comparison", even for the services mentioned. No pricing comparison. No storage limits. No performance data. I can do better by looking at Wikipedia.

franknalco

join:2005-01-27
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Re: No Carbonite? No Crash Plan?

Agreed. This article is useless. One of the things missing from many online storage services is the ability to search within files, like pdf's. I have only found G Drive is able to do this, and I was hoping this article might point me someplace else since I really don't want to use Google since their privacy policy seems as fluid as the tide - and changes about as often. Oh well.....

cdru
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said by A non :

I can do better by looking at Wikipedia.

Yet you didn't.
quote:
This article is part of an effort to solicit paid content from the Broadband Reports community. If you'd like to participate, please contact us.
If you can do a better job, submit something. If you can't/won't, then what someone else has is infinitely times better than your contribution.

A non

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Re: No Carbonite? No Crash Plan?

said by cdru:

If you can do a better job, submit something. If you can't/won't, then what someone else has is infinitely times better than your contribution.

I don't need to. It's already been written - »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison···services

MxxCon

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There's no storage limit on S3.

Backblaze also claims to be unlimited »help.backblaze.com/entries/20201···nlimited
But i wouldn't be surprised if somewhere in their TOS they have a clause saying that if you abuse the service, they can disable your account.
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PastTense

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Re: No Carbonite? No Crash Plan?

"Sig removed by Administrator: signature can not exceed 20GB"

Wow!!! You can have a 19.9 GB signature!!!

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Online Storage...

Ryan, Do you have comments on the other 'flavors' of cloud storage???? Just wondering....Thanks for what you've submitted so far...has me thinking about more than Dropbox...

Speaking of DB...I started using it because of the tie-in with transferring URL's from my smartphone to a Google Chrome browser so I could read the durn pages without squinting...Phone-to-Chrome was the app. Then I discovered how nice it was to have a way to move files from the desktop to the phone and to have the files available at any desktop I use...hmmm This is nice... Now I've used it to allow friends and co-workers to share files I've created for my jobs...

It works well for me...

MxxCon

join:1999-11-19
Brooklyn, NY

Re: Online Storage...

If I were you, I'd delete all my files from dropbox and close my account.
If you don't remember, Dropbox lied to their users about Dropbox's ability to read users' files. They have one of the worst security track records.
Can access anybody's account without password »techcrunch.com/2011/06/20/dropbo···r-hours/
Emails leaked »techcrunch.com/2012/07/17/dropbo···o-blame/
Just look at the last paragraph of their recent blog post »eranki.tumblr.com/post/270764318···x-part-1.
They are recommending that a company should evaluate what's more important: user's privacy/security VS negative PR one will get from not doing proper security.
If they are recommending it in their blog post, that means they are doing it internally. Who knows where else they cut security corners.
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ArrayList
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Re: Online Storage...

komal

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So do you read the things you post or just post them without thinking?

The last one you posted is not a Dropbox blog, their blog is on their site.

It is from a former employee who as a programmer points out that the more security you add, the more inconvenient it becomes for the user.

You need to brush up on your reading comprehension skills because nothing you mentioned was in that article.

MxxCon

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Re: Online Storage...

So by your understanding "Head of Server Engineering" is "a programmer", eh?
Ok master of English language, if you say so.
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Re: Online Storage...

said by MxxCon:

So by your understanding "Head of Server Engineering" is "a programmer", eh?
Ok master of English language, if you say so.

So you consider posts from former employees to be official Dropbox posts?

Ok, Mr. Failure at Reading Comprehension, if you say so.

Da Geek Kid

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For Online Backup...

Cloud Storage differ than backup solution. For online backup I would highly recommend CrashPlan.

MxxCon

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Re: For Online Backup...

CrashPlan has good features, but they use some proprietary encryption and refuse to publish its specs to allow 3rd parties to examine its quality.
They also REQUIRE connection to their servers, even if you do local or friend-to-friend backup. So if for whatever reason their servers go down or you don't have internet access, you will never be able to recover your backups.
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Da Geek Kid

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Re: For Online Backup...

How are Blowfish and AES proprietary? I am not sure of any others that support any linux flavors...

...and how are you planning on backing up your data to backblaze or Amazon when you have no internet connectivity?

MxxCon

join:1999-11-19
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Re: For Online Backup...

Read some more details of what exactly they are encrypting with blowfish and aes.
And just because they say they use blowfish or aes, doesn't mean they use it properly. Just read »www.elcomsoft.com/download/BH-EU-2012-WP.pdf as an example of password managers that don't properly use standard encryption algorithms.
CrashPlan refuses to publish their specs, so the best you can hope for is "Trust us, we are secure".

What part of "They also REQUIRE connection to their servers, even if you do local backup" did you miss?
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Re: For Online Backup...

Ok. So, I am sorry where do I find the exact tech spec of BackBlaze's Security process?

eh that link is irrelevant of CrashPlan as there's no remote mention of it.

»datasafemag.com/top-10-online-ba···ankings/

BTW -- did you mention BackBlaze support Solaris and Linux cause it does not.

MxxCon

join:1999-11-19
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Re: For Online Backup...

I don't give a fuck about what Blackblaze does.
We are talking about CrashPlan here.
A few month ago I contacted CrashPlan support. Request #141900
I asked them:
If I setup an offsite/peer-to-peer/friend only backup and for whatever reason your servers are not available, what's going to happen to my backups? What about situation when I setup private encryption key?
Michael W. of CrashPlan replied:
You would not be able to process a backup or restore without being able to communicate with the servers, we do this as a security checksum. If we were to go out of business, or discontinue the software for any reason (which is unlikely) then we would remove that requirement from the software.
I asked:
So I must be able to communicate with your servers even when I do local backups/restore? I am worried about some situation during a catastrophic failure/outage that I need to recover my data without internet connectivity.
His reply:
Yes, you do need a connection to the internet to backup or restore any files with the software, even if it is a local backup.


I also asked him
What functionality/tools/proof do you have that you are doing what you claim you are doing? How can I confirm to myself that you are encrypting my data only with my private key and there's nothing going on such as you don't include your own key in there?
He replied:
While we do not furnish any direct "proof" you can test those scenarios on your own. If you use the data key encryption and someone tries to use the wrong key to access your data from a remote system, it will wipe the archive.
I followed up:
I'm not so much worried that somebody will try to use wrong private key to access my data, but rather than you are encrypting my data with my private key and not your key to which you have access.
I'm looking for a technical analysis similar to what was done with LastPass here »blog.tinisles.com/2010/01/should···ass-com/
He did not reply.
So it's safe to assume they don't do proper security on your data, and they REQUIRE connectivity to their servers, even if you do local backup.
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Da Geek Kid

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Re: For Online Backup...

props on that... now, with all that in mind, how do you presume, Cisco, Google and others trust them enough to use crashplan as their solution?

MxxCon

join:1999-11-19
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Re: For Online Backup...

I question that claim that Cisco, Google and others trust them a whole company.
I wouldn't be surprised if it was just a single purchase for a single license for personal use or just for a sake of completeness of during evaluation process.
I can claim my website is "used by Google" if I see just 1 hit from Google's IP.
We don't know and they don't say specifics of how it's used at Cisco or Google. Maybe they back up their spam folders and don't care about privacy or integrity of that data.
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bgoodbody

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This article is a disgrace.

1. Not all viable solutions are mentioned. e.g. SkyDrive.

2. A conclusion is given without much analysis or justification.

Is this what DLSReports is PAYING for?

Not worth it.
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MxxCon

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Re: This article is a disgrace.

Did this article say it's going to talk about all viable solutions?!
If you don't like this don't read or write something better
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ArrayList
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backblaze

It don't work if you want to back up windows home server.

Mike Wolf

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Microsoft SkyDrive

Why hasn't Microsoft SkyDrive been mentioned?

MxxCon

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Re: Microsoft SkyDrive

Because SkyDrive is not for backups but for syncing.
2 very different things.
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Re: Microsoft SkyDrive

Wrong! With the desktop Apps from Windows And GASP even OS X, it "mapps a network folder" where it keeps stuff in sync. Nothing is stopping you from moving all your data to the SkyDrive folder and it getting auto uploaded seconds after a change in any file is detected. Or using that folder to do a backup.
komal

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Dropbox is also for syncing and NOT backups but it was mentioned

MxxCon

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Re: Microsoft SkyDrive

said by komal:

Dropbox is also for syncing and NOT backups but it was mentioned

mentioned, but not talked about becuase it is not a backup solution, but it's popular enough that most people would know about it and useful to use as a contrast.
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komal

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Re: Microsoft SkyDrive

said by MxxCon:

said by komal:

Dropbox is also for syncing and NOT backups but it was mentioned

mentioned, but not talked about becuase it is not a backup solution, but it's popular enough that most people would know about it and useful to use as a contrast.

So it is useful to mention by Skydrive was not?

That was the OP's point here, that it wasn't mentioned at all. Dropbox was.
praetoralpha

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I started using it when it had 25 GB for free. Now its only 7, but still quite roomy. The only big downside is its speed (lack of). It tends to be limited to about 1 MB/s upload and it pauses a second or two between files.

Mike Wolf

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Re: Microsoft SkyDrive

It'll get better, Just gotta stay positive

MxxCon

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Oh look, Microsoft explicitly and actively does not want people to use SkyDrive for backup.
If you use it for that, you can end up with your account disabled or files deleted.
»forums.create.msdn.com/forums/t/101154.aspx

I'd say this is as anti-backup solution as any I've seen.
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MTU
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Cloud security

An excellent source for good info on this, and most other tech security issues is: GRC.com, or the podcast labeled "Security Now", by Steven Gibson.

»www.grc.com/securitynow.htm

MxxCon

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Re: Cloud security

Yes, he did a great series. Too bad he didn't go deep enough into some solutions.
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itguy05

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Ad for Backblaze

Thats about all this is. A talk about Amazon, gushing on Backblaze and a mention of the others....

A non

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Re: Ad for Backblaze

A real comparison would mention that restoring from Backblaze is via ZIP files. Yeah, sure, you try restoring 150 GB with ZIP files.
ISurfTooMuch

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What about Wuala?

I see no mention of Wuala. It's a good service with clients for all the major platforms.

RickyDSouza

@amazonaws.com

hybrid cloud backup with s3 replication suits well

hi,

I am using Storegrid sp edition with amazon s3 replication which suits best for me. amazon s3 is the best option on my view.

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Comparison? Where?

This was a waste of time that should have been titled "My Two Preferred Cloud Storage Options." If you want to call this a comparison, you must:

1) Provide a matrix of the different products' features, price points, and other criteria used for judging them.

2) Provide a tight, non-editorial summary of each offering, provider's claimed advantages.

2) Provide narrative that describes typical user experiences of each service, and actually *compares* them against each other in use.

As posted, this is not at all a worthwhile article.
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I use iCloud

I use iCloud but I cannot seem to access its online storage to store files other than Photostream and backup my iOS devices. I also use it the sync my devices.
dlewis23

join:2005-04-18
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None of these are really Cloud Storage

Normally I wouldn't reply to something like this but as someone who has built, runs a cloud storage service, and is building a "Next Gen." cloud storage service I feel like I have to in this case. I hate articles like this because services like Backblaze, Carbonite, Crashplan etc. are mentioned and throw in to the same pool as services like DropBox, FireFile.io and S3. Backblaze, Carbonite, Crashplan etc. are not cloud storage they are just back up services nothing more. iCloud is a confused middle man, its a half a backup service and half cloud storage with the photo iWork stuff it can do. Google Drive is about the same but is closer to a cloud storage service.

Proper cloud storage is something were the files always live in the "cloud", those files can be accessed through multiple different ways, across multiple devices at any time or the same time. Thats were services like WebDAV would come in so you could mount the storage as a remote disk and access the files directly from the cloud but none off that. DropBox is about as close as the avg. person can get to cloud storage but because of the syncing service it limits a few things that could make it even better. S3 can do a lot of the stuff and is cloud storage but because of the complexity it makes it out of reach of the avg. person. Amazon should never tell the user about Get and Put requests, telling me how much the rate for transfer is, if your in one DC its this amount if your in this DC its this other amount. Cloud storage is also suppose to be simple.
kxrm

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Fort Worth, TX

Re: None of these are really Cloud Storage

I agree, a cloud is different from a offsite backup solution. Cloud implies some work that is distributed. Offsite storage is just backup.

Unfortunately marketeers have hijacked the word "cloud" for their own purposes.

MxxCon

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But Amazon is not really marketing S3 at end-users the way icloud, backblaze or dropbox do.
S3 is in a different market segment. It's a platform on which you can build a service offering.
If you are technically savvy enough you can use S3 'bareback'. Otherwise there are a bunch of services/software that use S3 as a backend and obfuscate all the nuances of pricing and api.
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krtheriault

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cloud

Also Box had a free 50gb offer when they first released it, and I also use Bitrix24 for my businesses intranet; it includes 5gb in the free version but this software has it all. Including a task area as well as contacts and leads. Invite new employees to use it so its easy to manage them from anywhere. Just some other options, thanks.

lordfly

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Dropbox works for me

I like that it works well with both my Android phone and my wife's Iphone. I started with 50GB, but now with the most recently doubling my storage space available is now 103GB. Since it is backed up locally as well as on the cloud, it is a viable solution just in case. I have already lost 2 years of photos to an unfortunate drive crash. And every picture or video I take gets uploaded immediately.

I have a free 50GB Box account on my Android, but I don't use it for anything. I have not found anything useful about it.

KoolMoe
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Re: Dropbox works for me

I've got a 50gb Box acct. I don't use it a lot, but it's cool.
The App for my android phone allows me to easily upload photos, etc. to the account wherever I have a connection....instead of me constantly forgetting to USB to my computer to do the transfer (which itself is...quirky).

And I can access that Box.net folder via WebDAV on my Win7 machine, so it's a wide-open folder. It's a little slow, but not bad at all, so I can drag-drop items to it, or grab my phone photos from it...

So with all that, it's a nice backup location for pictures, and whatever other files I remember to drag over to the Explorer/WebDAV folder.
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rdmiller

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Buzzword Misunderstandus

If you think cloud is only "online server storage", you don't understand the cloud.

MxxCon

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Brooklyn, NY

Re: Buzzword Misunderstandus

There's no a single fixed commonly accepted definition of "cloud".
Each has their own acceptable definition.
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komal

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Re: Buzzword Misunderstandus

No, there is a definition, just because people who use the word don't know the definition doesn't mean there are multiple definitions.

What a ridiculous comment.

If I start using the word 'computer' to refer to my shoes, does that mean there is a new and acceptable definition of computer?

RDmiller is correct in that 'cloud' refers to storage and computing, such as the processing power of Amazon's EC2.

MxxCon

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Re: Buzzword Misunderstandus

But EC2 or S3 are not the only meaning for "Cloud".
komal

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Re: Buzzword Misunderstandus

said by MxxCon:

But EC2 or S3 are not the only meaning for "Cloud".

I never said EC2/S23 was the only meaning for cloud, I used an EXAMPLE.

Please try reading before replying, otherwise you just make yourself look dumb.

JimThePCGuy
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Article title misleading. Again.

Ryan,
So where does Google Drive fit?
You specifically mention it in the article title but nothing in the actual article.
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Re: Article title misleading. Again.

said by JimThePCGuy:

Ryan,
So where does Google Drive fit?
You specifically mention it in the article title but nothing in the actual article.
j

Yeah this is why I clicked on it because of Google Drive

kingb71

join:2000-10-09
Mississauga, ON

Spideroak?

Surprised nothing was mentioned about Spideroak.
100% encrypted, and best of all Spideroak have ZERO knowledge of your encryption key.
So... when the FBI comes knocking for your data, even with a warrant all they'll get is encrypted data.
»spideroak.com/

Also, they like to give away free space, I got 4gb for free the other day, am up to 13gb already all for free.
Of course...pm me for a referral code for an extra 1gb at signup... lol!

MxxCon

join:1999-11-19
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Re: Spideroak?

Spideroak is in the same situation as CrashPlan(see my posts above).
They claim it's TNO encrypted, but there have been no independent audits to verify that claim.
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Phoenix56317

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Denver, CO

Cloud services suck !

Of course, YOU people are assuming that you all have a RELIABLE CONNECTION, in the first place right ? ? ?

What good is an OFF-LINE BACKUP or CLOUD service if you can not access it ? ? ? ?

The reason am commenting on this is the very fact that am getting very tired of dealing with a provider that has my area in it's IRON GRIP ! COMCAST !

I use to be a Speakeasy customer until I moved and found out that they couldn't provide the same service where I've been at before and I came to know that NO MATTER WHAT, your data will always be at the mercy of COMMUNICATION LINES !

Pretty much what I feel about Cloud services, they SUCK and no amount of what they provide is going to change that because you ABSOLUTELY NEED TO COMMUNICATE WITH IT !

Just my 2 cents worth !

Koil
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Re: Cloud services suck !

You people are bazaar...you want an online backup / cloud / whatever solution, but are pissed when you can't access it when you're not online?

Get a local attached solution then...wtf?

linicx
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Cloud services?

I have read enough vague information, and spin, to be nervous about backing up any online. My solution is external drives. If it is that important I can put the drive in a bank vault.
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