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| Re: How about..... said by FastiBook:3 bad installs & shut them down, 3 bad albums close up shop. Ha ha. I agree with the bad albums part. As much of music is marketing, I could see a LOT of so called "bands" get the boot if this were true. Too bad that doesn't happen. Actually, too bad the general populace doesn't wake up and this could be true in some sense. | |
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| | | Re: Governments should fear their people. "By the people, for the people".
Don't see much of that sentiment in anything being perpetrated. | |
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| Re: Governments should fear their people. said by grouchy951:"By the people, for the people". Don't see much of that sentiment in anything being perpetrated. Its been changes to "A govt by the corporations, for the corporations."
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| | | | | Re: Governments should fear their people. said by margaf77:said by grouchy951:"By the people, for the people". Don't see much of that sentiment in anything being perpetrated. Its been changes to "A govt by the corporations, for the corporations." Sorry you didnt get the memo It's been slightly amended to include a sub-paragraph: "A Government by the richer people, for the richer people, to suppress the everyone else. | |
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|  Mr FelFlynn LivesPremium
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| | This is garbage The fact that the US govt is doing the RIAA/MPAA's bidding sickens me. These are our elected officials and they are bowing down to the greedy hoards in Hollywood and stripping us citizens of our rights.
The fact that the RIAA/MPAA now want every ISP in the world to have to install expensive packet sensing equipment while they spend not one dime and rake in mountains of cash just ticks me off too.
I'll never in my life buy another new copy of any movie or music ever again. Only buy used from now on, or borrow from a friend, or just go without. They havent made a decent album or movie in years anyways, thats why their sales suck so bad. Put out decent content and people will buy it. | |
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kudos:4 | Re: This is garbage said by IhateRIAA :
The fact that the US govt is doing the RIAA/MPAA's bidding sickens me. These are our elected officials and they are bowing down to the greedy hoards in Hollywood and stripping us citizens of our rights.
No. They are making sure a major US industry and a major exporter are not being ripped off around the world by stealing our product without paying for it.
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2 edits | Yes they are making sure my privacy rights are stripped from me with this US style of oppression. Also criminalizing me for Breaking DRM on my movies so I can store them on my hard drive.
Also the fear of someone stealing my IP and mac address and getting me kicked off the net. With no recourse as to get it back. I love being guilty without the ability to prove my innocents.
TK I hope since you support this that you are one of the first that gets framed. Actually I dont know if you support it or not, I am making an assumption that you do with the mere validation of your words.
I wonder how much it would cost me if I were investigated. almost 400 DRMs broken. | |
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| | | | Not really TKJunkMail.
All that's really going on here is a control grab. A mildly skilled hacker will work around this easily. This will only catch the "fringe" users who are unskilled at networking.
What really happened here is that we just gave away our internet control to two of the most evil and limiting organizations in America.
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join:2002-03-05 | If the RIAA and MPAA are so hurt by all this purported piracy, then perhaps they ought to do what all other businesses do when faced with threats: adapt.
Businesses that were tired of being shoplifting victims installed video cameras to watch their stores. Businesses that were tired of having goods stolen at night installed burglar alarms. Businesses that were tired of having employees steal their inventory started conducting background investigations of potential employees. Adaptation is nothing new. Unfortunately it is a new concept to our entertainment industry.
I guess it's easier for the RIAA and MPAA to sit back and continue to whine about alleged losses they "suffer" from people who "steal" their music without providing a shred of evidence about the extent of said losses. I guess it's easier for them to pretend that they're victims, act hurt, and then go out to their expensive dinners and home to their million dollar mansions than it is for them to face reality.
Somehow I have a very, very hard time feeling even the slightest bit of empathy for organizations like the MPAA and RIAA that add nary a bit of value to anything in the world.
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kudos:4 | Re: This is garbage said by NOVA_Guy:If the RIAA and MPAA are so hurt by all this purported piracy, then perhaps they ought to do what all other businesses do when faced with threats: adapt. Businesses that were tired of being shoplifting victims installed video cameras to watch their stores. Businesses that were tired of having goods stolen at night installed burglar alarms. Businesses that were tired of having employees steal their inventory started conducting background investigations of potential employees. Adaptation is nothing new. Unfortunately it is a new concept to our entertainment industry. They are adapting - they are getting international agreements in place to stop people from stealing their product. Just like the burglar alarm in YOUR example.
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| | | | | | Re: This is garbage There is a thing called privacy tk. That store is not allowed to put a camera or alarm in my house. | |
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join:2002-03-05 | A burglar alarm is a passive device that does not invade anyone's privacy.
Maybe the RIAA and MPAA are adapting... after all, the Borg were capable of adapting when they attacked and destroyed civilizations in Star Trek, weren't they? The RIAA's and MPAA's goals are nothing short of the same thing.
It's too bad we don't have politicians with the cajones to put the RIAA and MPAA in their place-- the junk heap. Instead they just continue to be bought and paid for mouthpieces that pass the entertainment industry's agenda at the expense of the American public.
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| | | | i don't know, but it seems like the all actors are doing pretty damn well in their mansions if you ask me. so they get no sympathy from me when someone pirates a bit (or all for that matter) of their work. | |
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| | | | | Re: This is garbage Hollywood (and everybody involved, from the key grips to Aston Kucher) is doing just fine. If Hollywood (or whoever else) wants to argue that piracy is destroying all revenue, they need to come up with a better argument... | |
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i don't know, but it seems like the all actors are doing pretty damn well in their mansions if you ask me. so they get no sympathy from me when someone pirates a bit (or all for that matter) of their work.
For every actor getting rich off a movie, there are 1000's of people who just make a living. And it is these who are hurt by movie thieves.
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i don't know, but it seems like the all actors are doing pretty damn well in their mansions if you ask me. so they get no sympathy from me when someone pirates a bit (or all for that matter) of their work.
For every actor getting rich off a movie, there are 1000's of people who just make a living. And it is these who are hurt by shitty movies. fixed it for you
its people downloading them
its that they suck in the first place and arnt worth 15 bucks to see a first run
care to explain why they are trying to stop people like Redbox? and Netflix? | |
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its people downloading them
its that they suck in the first place and arnt worth 15 bucks to see a first run
care to explain why they are trying to stop people like Redbox? and Netflix?
Who cares what you think? If they want to charge $1000 for a movie, let them. You don't have to buy it. As for Netflix... not sure who "they" is. They are doing fine. The have a simple business model in where they license mostly cheaper old back catalog titles. Some of the old movies are actually pretty good. Only cost a couple of bucks to watch. | |
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| | | Re: The end of American cultural domination the american culture is disgusting. well the pop culture anyways
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ENOUGH OF THE CORPORATE BULLSHIT
How is France these days
How about a year form now
if hollywood wants to do it DO IT IN THE USA 1ST | |
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| | Boycott Hollywood,MPAA, and RIAA If you all were smart you might really thinki of screwing these greedbag companies like they want to do to all of us.
Stop buying corporate music and films new.
Buy their krap used so they won't get a dime. | |
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| | | Re: Boycott Hollywood,MPAA, and RIAA you are referring to buy stuff used from the secondary market. That does not eliminate the primary market. Hope that makes you feel better. | |
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| | I guess this is change When everyone wanted change and stuff, what they got was an administration that hired all the lawyers from MPAA and RIAA, so those who drank the Kool-Aid dont complain now | |
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This is a defacto war against the internet, in practice and in principle. Old media, entrenched as powerful multinational corporate controllers of what was once democratic governement institutions, seek to maintain their control over profits and content by subverting the rule of law. It is fascism, pure and simple, and must be stopped at all costs. Any government, any corporate power or any individual who supports these measures to control how we speak, hear and think amongst ourselves is an enemy of the people and must be treated accordingly. This is war. Our future and the future of our children depend upon our ability, here and now, to defend the most basic of human rights. As shrill as such a cry may sound it is nonetheless based on the reality they seek to impose. This is war.
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| just fantastic... as said before, the US Entertainment Industry gets the US Government to push their agenda globally.
wtf is wrong with the average American citizen that they let this happen in our Country? oh wait, the voting majority are a bunch of people that still have 12:00 flashing on their VCRs. by the time that the digital-age voting majority comes around, all will be lost.
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Thank you for contacting me to express your concern regarding the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement (ACTA). Your opinion is very important to me, and I appreciate the opportunity to respond to you.
As you may know, the objective of the ACTA negotiations is to negotiate a new agreement to combat counterfeiting and piracy. The United States has been working with several trading partners, including Australia, Canada, the European Union and its 27 member states, Japan, Mexico, Morocco, New Zealand, Singapore, South Korea, and Switzerland, to negotiate the agreement.
The ACTA is intended to assist in the efforts of governments around the world to more effectively combat the proliferation of counterfeit and pirated goods, which undermines legitimate trade and the sustainable development of the world economy, and in some cases, contributes to organized crime and exposes American families to dangerous and misleading products.
It is important that Intellectual Property Rights (IPR) are protected and enforced. Rest assured that I will continue to work with my colleagues to sufficiently safeguard the jobs and privacy rights of U.S. citizens. As you may know, in the past I have voted against overly broad trade agreements such as the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) and the Central American Free Trade Agreement (CAFTA) that send local jobs overseas, do not address environmental concerns, and hurt local businesses in [deleted]. Please be assured that as the seventh and final round of negotiations for the ACTA approach in January 2010, I will continue to learn more about the details of the final proposed agreement as it moves through the Senate.
Again, thank you for sharing your thoughts with me. Please do not hesitate to contact me in the future about this or any other matter of concern. You may also visit my website ([deleted]) to learn more about my work in the United States Senate. | |
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| | | Re: I have not bought... For those of you that said not to buy new, only buy used, you are still supporting the AAs. Buying used increases the value of new by providing an outlet for the new customer when (s)he gets tired of the disc.
Just like the resale value of a used car improves the saleabilty of the model when it's new, the same thing happens with a movie or music disc.
The only way to speak with your wallet is to not buy ANY movie or music, new or used.
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