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baineschile
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Sterling Heights, MI | Re: iPhone is keeping AT&T afloat Romour is that the iPhone will come to the EVDO networks once LTE is launched; why would Apple want to stay with one carrier when there are 3 or 4 other HUGE celluar companies that are willing to pay them? | |
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jmn1207
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| Re: iPhone is keeping AT&T afloat said by baineschile  :Romour is that the iPhone will come to the EVDO networks once LTE is launched; why would Apple want to stay with one carrier when there are 3 or 4 other HUGE celluar companies that are willing to pay them? Money? You can ask the same question to NFL and their continued deal with DirecTV. | |
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baineschile
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Sterling Heights, MI | Re: iPhone is keeping AT&T afloat Because they are pissed at Comcast and TWC; the cable giants wont air their crappy network on basic cable. | |
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JoesphM
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| said by jmn1207 :Money? You can ask the same question to NFL and their continued deal with DirecTV. $4 billion for more 4 years of exclusive carriage is what keeps Sunday Ticket on DirecTV.
Comcast and TWC just don't want to pay... I don't blame them, there customer's are pissed enough and wouldn't want the rate increase this would bring. | |
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jmn1207
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| Re: iPhone is keeping AT&T afloat said by JoesphM :said by jmn1207 :Money? You can ask the same question to NFL and their continued deal with DirecTV. $4 billion for more 4 years of exclusive carriage is what keeps Sunday Ticket on DirecTV. Comcast and TWC just don't want to pay... I don't blame them, there customer's are pissed enough and wouldn't want the rate increase this would bring. Isn't it the same with the iPhone? Didn't another major wireless carrier take a pass on the offer made by Apple to carry the iPhone? Both Apple and the NFL are simply looking for options that make them the most money. | |
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GOLFnSUN
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| Re: iPhone is keeping AT&T afloat said by jmn1207 : Didn't another major wireless carrier take a pass on the offer made by Apple to carry the iPhone? Yes, Verizon took a pass before AT&T signed on for the iPhone. I'll bet Verizon wishes they could have a do-over on that decision.
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jmn1207
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2 edits | Re: iPhone is keeping AT&T afloat While I'm sure it won't generate anywhere near the same numbers that the iPhone was responsible for, here is hoping that the Palm Pre fosters some much needed customer adds for Sprint. On paper, it looks like my dream phone. Unless it gets creamed in some early reviews, I'll be dropping my Sprint Curve for this device, no matter what ETF charges I might incur.
If Sprint offered anything decent with Rev. A AND WiFi, plus respectable battery life, I'd switch now. Heck, if Verizon had anything, I'd switch to their service. The Samsung Omnia was extremely close, but they only brought GSM to the table, and 3G was left behind. (Doh!) Sorry Verizon Samsung, but you just missed with that one.
Edit: I meant Samsung, not Verizon. When I was looking for a new phone in October of last year, the Samsung was GSM only, at least in the US. | |
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jmn1207
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Reston, VA | When the gains from iPhone subscribers stop generating revenue, it might not make sense to continue the exclusive contract. At some point, it's just not worth the costs to try and keep iPhone exclusive. That point might already be here now. | |
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join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
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| Re: iPhone is keeping AT&T afloat I suspect that will be the case.
AT&T wants to keep iPhone exclusive (keeping many adds, and more importantly, keeping customers from leaving)
Apple wants revenue - doesn't care where it gets it from
AT&T would not like to have to pay as much as it does for iPhone customers (takes a while to break even), and customer adds on the decline.
Being GSM/HSDPA based, T-Mobile would be an 'easy' add, radio change for AWS 3G.
A little more work - chipset change + FCC for EVDO for it to go to Sprint/Verizon.
HSPA/LTE would be the next logical step. | |
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| Re: iPhone is keeping AT&T afloat said by odreian615 : »news.yahoo.com/s/nf/20090422/bs_nf/66122
Credit Goes to iPhone
More than 1.6 million iPhone 3Gs were activated during the first quarter and the number of postpaid wireless subscribers with integrated devices more than doubled over the past year, according to AT&T. More than 40 percent of iPhone 3G activations were by customers new to the company.
"I am particularly pleased with the success of our iPhone 3G initiative, which has driven strong high-end customer growth and delivered financial benefits ahead of our original outlook," Stephenson said. "Business and consumer expectations for mobility are on the rise, wireless innovation is flourishing, and the opportunities ahead are substantial."
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1 edit | Re: iPhone is keeping AT&T afloat That only speaks to who bought the 3G phones (whether they were new (40%) or current AT&T customers upgrading (60%)), not how many of all new adds picked the iPhone over a different brand AT&T phone or when you take into account phone subsidized how much net revenue these iPhone customers are responsible for. | |
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00000 | Conjecture? I'd like to see what percentage of these adds were iPhone subs. | |
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| Re: iPhone is keeping AT&T afloat said by Bit : I'd like to see what percentage of these adds were iPhone subs. Well, dig it up. | |
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| Re: iPhone is keeping AT&T afloat I am assuming this
»tech.yahoo.com/news/ap/20090422/···rns_at_t
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"The iPhone has been a drag on AT&T's earnings since last summer, when the latest model, the "3G," launched. AT&T has been subsidizing each phone by hundreds of dollars, with the aim of making its money back on service fees, since iPhone users pay 60 percent more per month than other customers.
That strategy started to pay off in the first quarter. Margins in the wireless business are now back almost to where they were before the launch of the iPhone 3G, despite the sale of 1.6 million iPhones in the quarter. Sales were down from 1.9 million from the fourth quarter, but were strong for a non-holiday quarter without a new iPhone model.
Apple's phone also helped AT&T avoid a trend analysts are expecting to see this year: more customers signing up for prepaid service than for expensive contract-based plans. Only a quarter of new subscribers at AT&T chose prepaid in the quarter, compared to more than half at T-Mobile USA." | |
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Sterling Heights, MI | They are counting.. 3G sales as broadband? Thats a stretch. Maybe they should just buy earthlink or juno and count those numbers towards their braodband count. | |
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| Re: They are counting.. i dont care about 3g relly id just like to have a cell tower built here that is closer then 10 miles a way
there probably need to add another tower soonor or later lots more ppl have cellphones now days even poor ppl
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Stockbridge, GA | Re: They are counting.. relly? lolz I tout ppls woud no h0w to type bie now | |
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Herculaneum, MO | Re: They are counting.. uhhhhh.....what??????? type huh??? my thumbs hurt from txting 2 much | |
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clubs: | Re: They are counting.. dont forget the LOL in there now | |
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Sacramento, CA | Re: AT&T: 16.7 Million Broadband Customers So much profit and yet it is taking them forever to fix our 3G network that barely gives speeds of 100kbps half the time. ;_;
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c4junk
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| Here is what the local union guys from my area think about profits right now. Check out the link in my county.
»www.whiznews.com/article.php?articleId=25619
They claim about how well things are going on from there build-outs and most of the county barely gets dialup from them and cellular don't exist south of I70. | |
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| Re: ATT issued 1st quater eaenings actually if you read the earnings statement you will see that wireline revenues’ dropped 27%. About 60% of the unions jobs are on the wireline side. so you tell me - if in your job your revenues’ are down 27% and that has being going on for like 4 qtrs straight now – does it make good business sense to give those employees raises? | |
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| Re: ATT issued 1st quater eaenings Its an accounting slide,actually wired lines have leveled off and profits increased about 2%, at&t uses wires for uverse and does not count them as pots line, even though they actually were(are) pots copper.PROFIT 1st quarter 3.1 BILLION Unions and copper paid to build wireless and now wireless is paying to build uverse.The economy will never recover if greed takes away the tax paying middle class. | |
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| Continued Growth in Revenues Per Household. Driven by increased U-verse and broadband penetration, wireline revenues per household were up 2.0 percent versus the year-earlier quarter. This marked AT&T's fifth consecutive quarter of year-over-year growth in consumer wireline revenues per household. Total first-quarter wireline consumer revenues were $5.4 billion, compared with $5.8 billion in the year-earlier quarter, as declining voice revenues more than offset growth in video and broadband. They do a great job of masking wired lines in the report, now thats really masking the truth! | |
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Sacramento, CA | Re: big biz Once the earnings drop and if that brings the earnings back up then you will see that. | |
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clubs: | ya know I kinda wonder... I wonder how many out of 16.7 million I have IM'd, e-mailed, posted back to, etc., etc. over the years. | |
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AT&T: 16.7 Million Broadband Customers
iPhone is keeping AT&T afloat
