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 |  Bit00Premium
join:2009-02-19
00000 | Re: big deal Good for business work, downloading large attachments, interactive dbase client apps (eg Filemaker type apps). | |
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join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | Re: big deal said by Bit00:Good for business work, downloading large attachments, interactive dbase client apps (eg Filemaker type apps). large attachments? with a 5 GB cap? yeah ok. love that $503 per GB overage fee too. | |
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| | | | | Re: big deal said by BF69:said by Bit00:Good for business work, downloading large attachments, interactive dbase client apps (eg Filemaker type apps). love that $503 per GB overage fee too. priceless. | |
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join:2009-02-19
00000 | Yeah, with a 5GB cap you can handle a lot of large file attachments in the field. When you want to pull down a 20MB PDF you don't want to sit and wait and wait and wait as it comes down at 800kbps.
Not everyone runs streaming video. | |
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join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | Re: big deal said by Bit00:Yeah, with a 5GB cap you can handle a lot of large file attachments in the field. When you want to pull down a 20MB PDF you don't want to sit and wait and wait and wait as it comes down at 800kbps. Not everyone runs streaming video. When people's only other option is dial-up it would be nice if they had a REAL option for broadband. | |
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| | | |  tiger72SexaT duorPPremium
join:2001-03-28
Saint Louis, MO
kudos:1 | 800kbps? Lucky. In NYC most reports are around ~360kbps. 3g my ass. | |
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| | | ditka_bPremium
join:2001-10-05
Barrington, IL | I think it's time to stop complaining about the 5gb caps.
Cellular broadband allows you to email, surf. It simply isn't for massive non stop use the bandwidth is shared and doesn't support that. If you watch a large streaming video for hours you effect everyone else on the cell negatively.
The caps should grow with capacity growth.
Try and remember this is cellular wireless not cable broadband or dsl.
The difference between caps on cellular wireless is this..
Cellular has limited total bandwidth per cell and higher cost per GB.
Cable broadband has cheaper data costs and is just simply greedy. They simply can't even come close to proving the need for caps but that's a story for another day. | |
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join:2000-04-10
Richland, WA
kudos:2 | As a previous FM developer LOL @ FM over WAN... | |
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| | | According AT&T, There is no 5GB Cap if you pay the extra $30 for Unlimited. | |
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| | | Re: Does it mean four figures? Thats way below average.
Average 3G speed for the US is around 1.1 Mbps | |
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| |  Matt3All noise, no signal.Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
kudos:12 | Re: Does it mean four figures? said by dlewis23:Thats way below average. Average 3G speed for the US is around 1.1 Mbps I was thinking the same thing as Mike. I see around 500-700Kbps ... I only see 1Mbps or so well after midnight. When I was in the NYC area, I was lucky to get 30Kbps.
So, it looks like that 7.2Mbps will be about 2Mbps real world. | |
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| | | | | Re: Does it mean four figures? said by Matt3:said by dlewis23:Thats way below average. Average 3G speed for the US is around 1.1 Mbps So, it looks like that 7.2Mbps will be about 2Mbps real world. Real world 7.2 Mbps HSPA should be 2.5 - 4 Mbps. With places spiking to 5 Mbps at times.
Right now I can get 2 Mbps out side here in south florida. When I'm inside its around 1.5 Mbps. | |
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| | | tiger72SexaT duorPPremium
join:2001-03-28
Saint Louis, MO
kudos:1 | not with a T1 backhaul. | |
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|  exocet_cmI am the law - Judge DreddPremium
join:2003-03-23
New Orleans, LA
kudos:2 | I just ran a speed test (2mb)
Speed: 164kbps on 3G using AT&T. I can see the cell tower I connect to out of my window, about 1 mile away. | |
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|  TCubPremium
join:2008-09-03
Olmsted Falls, OH
kudos:4 | I just ran a test on mine with full 3G service. Seems to almost be at the 1Mbps mark.
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hroo772Darkness Fears MePremium
join:2002-04-05
Mclean, VA | updated speeds I may have already tested out some of the new speeds. This was taken from my laptop via my iphone 3g. Just note, this was done while stationary, I don't think I could get anywhere close to those speeds if I was in the car. (where I am currently posting this from) | |
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 sansri88digital is herePremium
join:2005-12-17
New York, NY
kudos:1 | iPhone 3G question Would we be able to take advantage of the faster speeds or is that for new hardware only? when it comes to cellphones I'm a complete noob. lol.
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|  huntml
join:2002-01-23
Mullica Hill, NJ | Re: iPhone 3G question I'm not sure but I think you'll need new hardware to really avail yourself of these supposed new speeds assuming the network is provisioned to actually support them. I think only phones coming to the market now are 7.2 capable. Most phone already on the market are only 3.6 capable. | |
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| | TCubPremium
join:2008-09-03
Olmsted Falls, OH
kudos:4 | Re: iPhone 3G question My mistake I didn't see your question before I posted... 
Anyway I'm under the same impression as well, although the aricle states it's already in place in certain markets meaning it's already being tested on current hardware. Whether this is other 3G phones that support those speeds or iPhone 3G's, I'm not to sure. I'm planning on getting one of the new iPhones come release date but if for some reason I don't I'd like to know if my current iPhone 3G will take advantage of these speeds! | |
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| iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 | The current 3G iPhone is 7.2 capable AFAIK. All current aircards are 7.2 capable. | |
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| | tiger72SexaT duorPPremium
join:2001-03-28
Saint Louis, MO
kudos:1 | Re: iPhone 3G question no it's not. The iPhone 3g is only 3.6mbps HSDPA capable. | |
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huntml
join:2002-01-23
Mullica Hill, NJ | Probably won't do much to improve their service. My impression from using ATTM's network is that it is oversubscribed and/or backhaul-limited, and it thus seems to me that doubling the peak downlink speed will do very little to improve the network's performance overall.
ATTM shouldn't even waste time on the 7.2 upgrade until they get more backhaul bandwidth to their cell sites. | |
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|  GbcueP.E.Premium
join:2001-09-30
Santa Rosa, CA
kudos:8 | Re: Probably won't do much to improve their service. I agree. What good is 7.2 when 3.6 doesn't even work? | |
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 Reviews:
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| Re: Probably won't do much to improve their service. If spectrum is a problem rather than backhaul (each data channel is 5 MHz wide and AT&T may only have 10 or 20 MHz devoted to 3G in a given area) then 7.2 would help out, doubling capacity for newer devices. Unfortunately, beckhaul may actually be the problem here. | |
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|  NerdtalkerWorking Hard, Or Hardly Working?Premium,MVM
join:2003-02-18
Tucson, AZ | Amen, seriously. I'm tired of explaining this to every AT&T user who started complaining after iPhone 3G launched.
The reason just about nobody on AT&T ever sees anywhere near 3 megabits, let alone (laugh) 7.2, is that AT&T hasn't completely built out their backhaul yet.
This news comes in right after AT&T made a "HUGE" order of Juniper networks routers. They're definitely working on building that backhaul out, but until it's all finished, welcome to slowville. This is one of the bad things about the iPhone being such a web-friendly phone; it's crushing AT&T's relatively immature 3G network which, until recently, saw relatively light use.
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TCubPremium
join:2008-09-03
Olmsted Falls, OH
kudos:4 | iPhone 3G? This is for a smoother iPhone release but will normal iPhone 3G users notice a change? I'm guessing yes, but I did also read somewhere the new iPhone will contain a new Infineon chip for better network speeds. | |
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| tiger72SexaT duorPPremium
join:2001-03-28
Saint Louis, MO
kudos:1 | Re: iPhone 3G? if the backhaul is improved, yes. Otherwise, not really. | |
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| | EDGE I would just love some regular 3G coverage -- EDGE SUCKS | |
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|  gigahurtzPremium
join:2001-10-20
Palm Coast, FL | Re: EDGE I canceled my data plan because all I have around here is EDGE. I keep getting that we'll be "upgraded" soon but I couldn't justify paying $30 a month for about 3MB of data that I used on EDGE. I utilize WiFi now and couldn't be happier. | |
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| | Fast Almost 2mbps already in Austin | |
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| TCubPremium
join:2008-09-03
Olmsted Falls, OH
kudos:4 | Re: Fast Wow! Lucky! I can't wait til the new iPhone and AT&T's 3G upgrade. | |
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| |  en102Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | Re: Fast Getting from 1Mbps to 2Mbps on an iPhone won't be very noticeable.
I suspect QoS will keep things besides data cards from having full data rates. | |
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| | | TCubPremium
join:2008-09-03
Olmsted Falls, OH
kudos:4 | Re: Fast said by en102:Getting from 1Mbps to 2Mbps on an iPhone won't be very noticeable. I suspect QoS will keep things besides data cards from having full data rates. I see. Of course as people are saying, the new 7Mbps will actually translate into 2... I wonder what 20mbps is in the real world. | |
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| droga
join:2002-06-30
Aguadilla, PR | I get 1.5mbps on 3 3G bars here on Puerto Rico (on my Fuze). Lets hope they actually DONT leave us for last this time around. | |
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Chaldo
join:2008-03-18
West Bloomfield, MI | Sprint 4G Sprint already offers 4G data cards/ some phones and they have a 4G wimax network in Baltimore. I looked at some videos a guy was watching 3 streaming youtube videos while driving around the city on a laptop, he also did a speed test and got around 7 MBPS download. So I wonder when AT&T is going to start working with LTE, I doubt anytime soon since they still have to expand there 3G. | |
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 ArkhmAsylmEvrythng I need isn't really what I want
join:2006-02-22
Saint Paul, MN | Yeah, & my 6 cylinder vehicle gets 50 mpg!! The best I've seen on Verizon is about 1,600 Kbps - with the average being just under 1 Mbps.
*sigh* There's always the next gen'.
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| | Well... I have never tested above 300 kbps down on my Bold. It is almost always 100-150 kbps, and this is replicable all over town. It'll be interesting to see what happens when these supposed upgrades are rolled out. | |
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| | Birmingham 
Maybe the network isnt as full in Birmingham, but Ive never really had speeds that were too bad. | |
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|  AVDRespice, Adspice, ProspicePremium
join:2003-02-06
Onion, NJ
kudos:1
1 edit | Re: Birmingham said by JamesTree:Maybe the network isnt as full in Birmingham, but Ive never really had speeds that were too bad. Those speeds are pathetic (for 3g) | |
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| | | | Re: Birmingham What should be speed be...? From the other tests, it seems like better than fifty percent of what is available is kind of nice. | |
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| | 20Mbps per tower? per tower channel that is sheared? 20Mbps per tower? per tower channel that is sheared? | |
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| AVDRespice, Adspice, ProspicePremium
join:2003-02-06
Onion, NJ
kudos:1 | Re: 20Mbps per tower? per tower channel that is sheared? said by Joe12345678:20Mbps per tower? per tower channel that is sheared? Yeah, like a sheep. | |
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| | El GaupoPremium
join:2006-07-15
Buckhorn, NM | Re: 20Mbps per tower? per tower channel that is sheared? with only 3 or 4 1.5 meg t1's feeding a tower the math dont add up | |
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join:2000-07-05
Kernersville, NC Reviews:
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| Re: 20Mbps per tower? per tower channel that is sheared? said by El Gaupo:with only 3 or 4 1.5 meg t1's feeding a tower the math dont add up Lots of towers are direct fiber fed now and the ones that are still T1 fed have a lot more than 3-4 t1's feeding it.... Trust me. | |
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 fancydancerPerception is realityPremium
join:2002-08-28
Springfield, IL | Getting better...
Here's downtown Springfield around lunch hour. Not too shabby!
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| | 3G Cap I don't feel sorry for any of you whining about the cap.
We still don't even have 3G in Alaska. AT&T has been selling iPhones and other 3G capable devices for probably a year already.
We are paying for services that we are not receiving. | |
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| jandar1
join:2006-01-16
Middleburg, FL | Re: 3G Cap They cannot even get 3G speeds in downtown Jacksonville.
Their network constantly drops (even cell calls).
Improve the signal, then improve the speeds. | |
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| | | | Re: 3G Cap im getting 1356kbps down and 304kbps up on 3G here in chicago | |
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| | AT&T 3G Speed Upgrades Coming Soon I can't even get 3G where I'm at. In contrast, Verizon has had it almost 2 years here. Speed upgrades are nice. But what about the coverage ATT? Verizon has you beat in that regard, hands down. | |
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| | Sweden Boy, you're behind. Here in Sweden 3G is 21 Mbps (upload is 5.76 Mbps), and with 4G (20-50 Mbps) on the way. With the 3G operator "3", you pay SEK 249/month (US$ 29.56). There's a 20 GB cap, then the speed is lowered to 200 Kbps for the rest of the month... NO extra fees!  | |
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| | | Re: Sweden And the women. I think i'm moving. | |
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