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join:2004-09-15
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1 edit | Re: Less congestion??? I was thinking the exact same thing. I also want to see if a mass influx of users will cause Verizon to have some of the same issues AT&T had. (not wishing bad on anyone who will have to deal with it, just curious  ) | |
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| etaadmin
join:2002-01-17
Dallas, TX
kudos:1 | ... what happen when all (or most) of the iphone subscribers move to Verizon and the wireless network problems continue? Blame it on the torch?
I'm sorry but I don't buy that at&t's wireless network problems are related to the iphone, it's at&t's attitude, their lack of vision and their own incompetence. | |
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| | wierdo
join:2001-02-16
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| Re: Less congestion??? said by etaadmin:I'm sorry but I don't buy that at&t's wireless network problems are related to the iphone, it's at&t's attitude, their lack of vision and their own incompetence. Yeah, it was just a coincidence that my service went to shit when the iPhone 3G was released, and got even worse when the 3G had its price drop. It had nothing to do with the massive increase in average data usage. Nothing at all. 
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| |  en102Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | Re: Less congestion??? I have few issues with service in Valencia as well.
According to the 'Network News' on the 'Mark the Spot' app, zip 91355 (area?) has had capacity add to 8 sites in the past 60 days. | |
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| Re: Less congestion??? that phone won't be going to VZW. No point in it. It won't work on the LTE network for Data which they're building out now so they will limit the number of people who will get it when they want a LTE 4G phone. That phone will go to Sprint.
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| Re: Less congestion??? Sprint still has a CDMA network they're operating and will not shut that down anytime soon nor move away from it. It also does NOT service the large metro regions of NY nor LA. Which would make sense for them to put it on CDMA and not WiMax. VZ is pushing LTE in to NYC and LA. Why put a a CDMA only phone in NYC on a network that has 4g networks available in those cities.
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| Re: Less congestion??? Here you go again with Sprint and their coverage. They have better coverage that T any day of the week. And the coverage issues they're bitching about with T is the network performance NOT the network coverage area. but you should know that since you Live4Apple. Also you're spouting off again about Sprint going LTE. They're NOT going LTE. They're building their WiMax network faster than T and VZ can get their LTE out of the lab and devices ordered or even thought about ordering ready.
VZ is focused on their LTE and with 30 markets planned, they won't put a CDMA only phone on the market. Sprint is more likely to do that due to not coverage most major markets- like NYC where VZ is set to have LTE this year.
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| Re: Less congestion??? said by hottboiinnc:Here you go again with Sprint and their coverage. They have better coverage that T any day of the week. And the coverage issues they're bitching about with T is the network performance NOT the network coverage area. but you should know that since you Live4Apple. Also you're spouting off again about Sprint going LTE. They're NOT going LTE. They're building their WiMax network faster than T and VZ can get their LTE out of the lab and devices ordered or even thought about ordering ready. VZ is focused on their LTE and with 30 markets planned, they won't put a CDMA only phone on the market. Sprint is more likely to do that due to not coverage most major markets- like NYC where VZ is set to have LTE this year. They are putting out many CDMA only devices right now like the Droid X and Droid 2, Sprint's pushing out WiMax capable phone's as well. If Apple is going to redesign a handset for another carrier it's going to be for a carrier with a good network and most likely a dual mode LTE/CDMA handset. Apple won't put out a CDMA only phone because CDMA is end of life. People with iPhone's come to expect voice and data at the same time which isn't possible with EVDO right now. And Sprint is NOT building out WiMax faster than Verizon's LTE, in fact LTE will have overlaid Verizon's CDMA network by 2013. Sprint can barely expand their WiMax coverage right now because they ran out of money.
And AT&T's native coverage is a lot better than Sprint's in part thanks to the 800mhz cellular band which Sprint doesn't have. And AT&T doesn't need LTE right now because they are using HSPA which is capable of a lot higher speed's than current WiMax and LTE.
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| | | fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
join:2005-05-20
kudos:3 | said by hottboiinnc:that phone won't be going to VZW. No point in it. It won't work on the LTE network for Data which they're building out now so they will limit the number of people who will get it when they want a LTE 4G phone. That phone will go to Sprint. You always seem to feel so sure about what you say...  | |
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|  AlcoholPremium
join:2003-05-26
Climax, MI
kudos:3 | Hopefully Sprint gets the Iphone and verizon can continue its support for android.
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| fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
join:2005-05-20
kudos:3 | I hate to say this.. got my iPhone4 not too long ago.. I also carry a 3GS still.. The Twin Cities is one of AT&T's best system.. great signal.. etc. Bottom line, 1 bar signal on 4 while full signal on the 3GS. Had a major time today trying to connect to the internet on the 4 while the 3GS went smooth as could be.
My attitude is more "c'mon apple... get the problem fixed"... some of the phones do have issues.. while some don't. | |
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join:2001-05-31
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| AlcoholPremium
join:2003-05-26
Climax, MI
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| Re: wow said by Subaru:I think this is the clearest sign so far that this rumor is true? No. They said the same thing last year.
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join:2001-06-11
Boxborough, MA
2 edits | The only reason ATT is relevant is because of the iPhone The only reason ATT is even being looked at is because of the iPhone. Once Verizon and other celluar outfits get the iPhone it's goodbye ATT. Their network is shitty, the rates suck.
Was nice knowing ya, don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out ATT. | |
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join:2000-05-10
Valley Park, MO
1 edit | Re: The only reason ATT is relevant is because of the iPhone said by jarablue:The only reason ATT is even being looked at is because of the iPhone. Once Verizon and other celluar outfits get the iPhone it's goodbye ATT. Their network is shitty, the rates suck. Was nice knowing ya, don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out ATT. Yes and No... I can't stand the service I receive with my Iphone 3G, but people that live in this same area as I do claim they receive perfect service and don't understand why I hate AT&T. Maybe they have never had a good service providers so they think dropped calls, and poor data performance are the norm so they accept it. I don't know, all I know for sure is I personally think AT&T is one of the worst providers I have used, and I have gone through stretches where I felt like I was winning the lotto if I actually managed to NOT drop a call. | |
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| |  tubbynetreminds me of the danse russePremium,MVM
join:2008-01-16
Chandler, AZ | Re: The only reason ATT is relevant is because of the iPhone said by Phatty:Maybe they have never had a good service providers so they think dropped calls, and poor data performance are the norm so they accept it. or maybe they actually get good service?
of course -- its a common internet meme -- i get [blank] so everyone around me that likes [object] must be idiots if they think its good.
q.
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join:2000-05-10
Valley Park, MO | Re: The only reason ATT is relevant is because of the iPhone said by tubbynet:said by Phatty:Maybe they have never had a good service providers so they think dropped calls, and poor data performance are the norm so they accept it. or maybe they actually get good service? of course -- its a common internet meme -- i get [blank] so everyone around me that likes [object] must be idiots if they think its good. q. Maybe, but considering these people all live/work in the same area I think its probably just that different users keep track of, or annoyed by problems more/less than others. I am probably quicker to complain about any dropped call only because they happened to me so infrequently on Verizon. Whereas a long term AT&T user may have grown more accustom to the occasional dropped call and written it off as a normal part of the service they receive. | |
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|  RobIn Deo speramus, God Bless the USAPremium
join:2001-08-25
Kendall, FL
kudos:2 | said by jarablue:The only reason ATT is even being looked at is because of the iPhone. Once Verizon and other celluar outfits get the iPhone it's goodbye ATT. Their network is shitty, the rates suck. Was nice knowing ya, don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out ATT. AT&T was a multi-billion dollar company before the iPhone, and they'll be a multi-billion dollar company after the iPhone.
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join:2000-09-17
Pittsburgh, PA | Are they daft? They need to be preparing for the migration west on the Oregon Trail. There will be 11 people left on ATT by this is finalized. | |
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|  winsyrstrifeRiver City BouncePremium
join:2002-04-30
Brooklyn, NY | Re: Are they daft? Yeah, but those 11 are the only ones not under a heavy-hitting ETF . There are millions upon millions of cash cows AT&T can count on for some time. | |
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|  tiger72SexaT duorPPremium
join:2001-03-28
Saint Louis, MO
kudos:1 | I may switch to ATT then. A vacant network is good for me. | |
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| | MikePremium,Mod
join:2000-09-17
Pittsburgh, PA | Re: Are they daft? It would be vacant for a reason. | |
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| | | tiger72SexaT duorPPremium
join:2001-03-28
Saint Louis, MO
kudos:1 | Re: Are they daft? Last I checked, they have capacity issues. An empty network means no capacity issues!
It's still more expensive than what I normally pay though, so maybe i'll stick with my current providers. | |
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join:2004-11-26
America Reviews:
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Sure, in the short term, DSL is better than nothing.
Sure, in the short term, anyone can dream about puppies and rainbows, and world peace
I'd laugh my pants off if VZW got a TON of new people in the next few years and their network doesn't even get phased.
CDMA is (IMHO) clearly a better technology, and no amount of spin can change my opinion on the matter...
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| | | said by amungus:I'd laugh my pants off if VZW got a TON of new people in the next few years and their network doesn't even get phased. Not really a valid comparison, since the iPhone is known quantity now, and the fact that V is desperately trying to get their LTE network online. We know that it will be data only at first. When will it be ready for phone and data...?
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join:2005-10-17
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join:2006-06-28
Portland, OR | question Are the rumors that Verizon will have exclusive access to the iPhone or will Verizon be another carrier for the iPhone?
I can't see that Apple still would want to limit themselves to just one carrier...again. | |
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| AlcoholPremium
join:2003-05-26
Climax, MI
kudos:3 Reviews:
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| Re: question said by klipko:Are the rumors that Verizon will have exclusive access to the iPhone or will Verizon be another carrier for the iPhone? I can't see that Apple still would want to limit themselves to just one carrier...again. Another carrier.
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bdon78I didn't do it
join:2009-05-18
Decatur, GA | Misinformation Karl,
To quote you:
"Verizon expects 30 markets launched by year's end, and their entire footprint to be upgraded by the end of 2014"
Funny thing is.. you leave out that this is DATA ONLY. It has little or nothing to do with an iPhone going to Verizon. Even if it did go to Verizon in Jan 2011, it would be a CDMA phone.. not LTE.. so why even mention LTE and Verizon unless you are talking 3rd or 4th quarter next year.. and even that is a big MAYBE. (it's a maybe because your assumption is that the technology will exist for a CDMA / EVDO / LTE handset)
My point is, you discuss the AT&T losing the iPhone in Jan and Verizon's LTE network in the same article, when in fact, the two have nothing to do with each other (yet). So why even say it? | |
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join:2000-10-07 | Funny I think once a second carrier in America gets the iphone and their service proves to be better compared to what ATT provides, the figurative floodgates will open. Even if they have to buy yet another new iphone. | |
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