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$99 monthly unlimited starting February 22...
(old news - 04:40PM Tuesday Feb 19 2008)
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On the heels of Verizon's announcement earlier today, AT&T e-mails us to note they'll also be offering their users unlimited voice plans starting February 22. The company's press release is a little skimpy at the moment, and looks like it might have been pushed out quickly to piggyback on the buzz Verizon has been getting today. AT&T spokesman Brad Mays tells us the company should have additional detail before too long.
"We are pleased to offer our customers these great new plans that deliver value and simplified pricing," said Ralph de la Vega, president & CEO, AT&T Mobility. "This is a highly competitive market and we're committed to moving fast to meet customer needs."
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We'd praise these new plans as a massive competitive paradigm shift, but if we recall correctly, AT&T actually offered unlimited service more than five years ago -- then scrapped it. As some users note, several MVNOs have also offered unlimited service for some time.

At the price-point these companies are offering unlimited service, it impacts a very select group of customers (namely those who like to talk a lot and pay a lot). Unless you're really jabbering away to the tune of 2,000+ minutes a month, you probably won't find any substantive cost savings here.

AT&T and Verizon are responding to reports that Sprint's new CEO Dan Hesse was considering an unlimited package in order to be "disruptive." Both AT&T and Verizon's first impulse was to target high-end customers with fairly expensive plans. Now in order to be disruptive, Sprint is going to need to offer unlimited service at a price point well below the other two operators.

update: It looks like T-Mobile has now joined the fun as well.

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MxxCon

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Others too

Again reminding you all that Helio and some other carriers had ~$100 unlimited plans for a while now.
so it's not all that groundbreaking.

Camelot One
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·VoicePulse

Re: Others too

Helio and Cricket are the two I've seen mentioned as already having unlimited plans. I've tried both, and returned both. Helio was a little better than cricket, but the cripled Bluetooth the "top" Ocean phone was enough to really piss me off.
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Re: Others too

said by Camelot One See Profile :

Helio and Cricket are the two I've seen mentioned as already having unlimited plans. I've tried both, and returned both. Helio was a little better than cricket, but the cripled Bluetooth the "top" Ocean phone was enough to really piss me off.
Cricket is an absolute joke and not even worth mentioning.

I thought Helio was just an MVNO riding atop Sprint's EVDO network?

Camelot One
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Re: Others too

They are. But oddly enough, while my Virgin Mobile (also rides on sprint) gets great reception, often better than sprint phones themselves, the Helio was horrible. And it's not just one particular VM phone that I've had good luck with, every single one of them has worked in areas people's sprint phones can get a signal in.
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Re: Others too

said by Camelot One See Profile :

They are. But oddly enough, while my Virgin Mobile (also rides on sprint) gets great reception, often better than sprint phones themselves, the Helio was horrible. And it's not just one particular VM phone that I've had good luck with, every single one of them has worked in areas people's sprint phones can get a signal in.
Perhaps they chose low quality radios for their phones to sell them so cheaply.

tc1uscg

join:2005-03-09
Saint Clair Shores, MI

said by MxxCon See Profile :

Again reminding you all that Helio and some other carriers had ~$100 unlimited plans for a while now.
so it's not all that groundbreaking.
I thought this was a nation wide focus, not limited local markets?

SPRINT BABY

@clearwire-dns.net

GO SPRINT!

sprint is the best fo sho!!

PolarBear
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Re: GO SPRINT!

Obviously you've never had to call their customer service with an issue.
RadioDoc
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Re: GO SPRINT!

said by PolarBear See Profile :

Obviously you've never had to call their customer service with an issue.
fo sho
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tc1uscg

join:2005-03-09
Saint Clair Shores, MI

Yep, called them to fix a couple of sign on pin errors. What should have happened other then they took care of it? That dark thing above your head? It's a cloud. I think for the most part, at least the past few months, when people call Sprint, they're already expecting the worst and sometimes create the problem themselves or get confrontational before they make it past the 2nd ring. If we all blew off ANYPLACE that provided bad customer service, we would eat at home more often, stay out of bars, walk instead of drive cars and stare at the walls.

PolarBear
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Re: GO SPRINT!

Understandable, but my point was simply that they are infamous for poor customer service. If you weren't in the Coast Guard, I'd think you were a shrink the way you over-analyzed that

tc1uscg

join:2005-03-09
Saint Clair Shores, MI

Re: GO SPRINT!

Hey, unlike some people here, I've had the chance to live all over the place, HI, CA, FL, WI, MI, CT, KY... I've experienced a whole page of different cable providers, eaten in many different establishments and have had various credit cards, so maybe that's why I don't get my hanes in a bunch when I see something wrong with my cell bill, my cable bill or insurance premiums. I call and act like an adult to get the problem fixed. The infamous part is not indigenous to Sprint. I've been blessed with visiting a Verizon retail store. Sometimes, I think the morons all come from the same womb.

p.s., I'm retired.

PolarBear
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Re: GO SPRINT!

said by tc1uscg See Profile :

I don't get my hanes in a bunch when I see something wrong with my cell bill, my cable bill or insurance premiums. I call and act like an adult to get the problem fixed.
Oh, I completely agree with that. Billing errors aren't what I was referring to, though. I understand in this world of computers, shit - and billing errors - happen. I've read a lot of stories on the internet, however, that make it clear that Sprint's problem is getting the issue fixed. From what I've heard, even trying to get to a human is a pain in the ass. Then trying to get them to understand and attempt to fix the problem is a bigger pain.
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tc1uscg

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Re: GO SPRINT!

What I should have added about the BLESSED part was OMG.. maybe the uniforms were different but the attitudes were the same. Not willing to help, total aholes.. Did I mention arrogant?

PolarBear
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Re: GO SPRINT!

That's because they are commission-paid salesmen. If you aren't going to sign up as a new customer and buy a fancy phone and some accessories, they don't want you there. Period.
xenophon

join:2007-09-17
·Sprint Mobile Broa..

Sprint's CEO said a few weeks ago that they are preparing to deploy some 'nukes'. Wow if this happens....

»news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080220/bs_···icing_dc

quote:
NEW YORK (Reuters) - No. 3 U.S. mobile service provider Sprint Nextel Corp (S.N) is expected to offer flat-rate calling plans at up to a 40 percent discount to its rivals, hurtling the industry into a price war, analysts said on Wednesday.

Sprint has yet to respond, but analysts say it could be considering an unlimited calling plan for as low as $60 a month in a bid to stem customer defections.
If something like this happens, I imagine roaming will become complicated again.

RD

@rr.com

Old news

Ive had cellular one for around 5 years only only pay $50 a month for unlimited

Siryak

join:2005-11-26

Re: Old news

I have that plan as well and love it. I wont be letting go of it until I am literally forced off of it.

Rizzzzzoooo

@swbell.net
Your $50 is a statewide only plan. Travel outside of state coverage area and you will get ding'd for roaming or LD charges I bet.

Camelot One
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·VoicePulse

If they were smart....

They'd go exactly the opposite direction. "Unlimited" plans tend to attract only those people who are going to really use them, yet the income is capped.

On the other hand, there are a lot of people like me who don't use ENOUGH minutes to justify even the lowest plan.

They really should come out with something like $15/150minute and $20/200minute plans, and then rape people on the overage.
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Re: If they were smart....

A lot of fully credit worthy people are going with prepaid because of their low volume. There is definitely a market for well crafted low end plans with roll over, or even a zero minute plan for $10 and ten cents a minute for each minute.

I put my parents on my family plan because I was nauseated that they were paying $35 a month for two minutes a month of phone calls. They never used their minutes.

We live on the Canadian border and back when FIDO had the $8 a month plan with no minutes, but a decent rate we subscribed for our cross-border trips. Many months we only went through 60 minutes a month, but there were other months where we racked up 1,000 minutes in Canada.

I think one of the problems for carriers is not whether they have a profitable stream from a customer, but whether they can show a near guaranteed future stream. I think this is as important for accounting purposes and actual dollars earned.
justDave

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Re: If they were smart....

said by stufried See Profile :

I put my parents on my family plan because I was nauseated that they were paying $35 a month for two minutes a month of phone calls. They never used their minutes.
Put them on your family plan? Why pay $15/mo (with taxes) for 2 minutes/month? Plenty of better options on prepaid.
shashinka

join:2000-09-16
West Boylston, MA
How about joltwireless for $50 a year and 113 min for that year or using tracphone, geez! $5 a month for my grandma and daughter who only need here and there
travelguy

join:1999-09-03
Santa Fe, NM

said by Camelot One See Profile :

They'd go exactly the opposite direction. "Unlimited" plans tend to attract only those people who are going to really use them, yet the income is capped.
Which is why Wall Street is very unhappy with this move. The concern is that far more of the heavy spenders will cut back by using one of these plans than will the lesser plan subscribers upgrade.
MyDogHsFleas
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Austin, TX

Great press release! (not)

Pricing? Terms? Restrictions?

dadkins
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Hello!



MetroPCS anyone?
$49.99 per month...
Like VZ or AT&T are doing something new... LMAO!

$99.00 per month? Got Astroglide?
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Yetskii

join:2002-03-01
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Re: Hello!

I have been using Metro PCS for almost 2 years now..they just changed tiers and pricing slightly, so effectivly I have the 40 dollar plan listed, but get it at 35 bucks..I was grandfathered
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ninjatutle
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Re: Hello!

They have by far the worst reception. Their pricing is cheap because they skimp on the towers.

If you travel out of your region, you are SOL. The phone aint going to work at all.

dadkins
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I went with Virgin mobile Pay-As-You-Go.
I rarely use the phone, so $20 every 3 months does fine for me!

Sprint network so I'm pretty well covered here in The Bay Area.
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nmarshall

join:2008-02-19
Sunland, CA

Re: Hello!

I use Virgin Mobile pre-paid also since I almost never use my cell phone. It's just nice to have if I'm traveling or going out to meet people. I pay $15 every 90 days... so about $5 a month, 18 cents a minute.

If you're signed up for Minute2Minute or 18¢ TALK, here's how you can keep your account running for less!

Sign up for one of our $15 Auto Top-Up options and instead of having to add $20 every 90 days to keep your service working, you'll only need to add $15. For small talkers, that can work out to a $20 break over the year.

dadkins
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Re: Hello!

No credit cards... no chance of Auto Top-Up.

Thanks for the tip though!
Still, at $20 every 3 months(90 days), this is the best option going, for me!

Running on Sprint means I get pretty good coverage here in The S.F. Bay Area.

Thanks again!
David
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en102
Canadian, eh?

join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA

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Metro PCS doesn't even have service where I live... and I'm less than 5 miles from Los Angeles city limits, in a city of 200,000.
Canada = Hollywood North

WonderMan

@comcast.net
I can get MetroPCS/$50 unlimited talk time one flat rate with the extras (text, web access etc). If you live in select metropolitan areas get Metro its the best bang for the buck.
jtorre69

join:2005-12-26
Hollywood, FL
have you ever had to deal with a rep from metro pcs?
I think they get trained by ex-U.S.postal employee's.

jgkolt
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but the coverage area is a joke.

side note

tmobile article mentioned above

(Corrects spelling of spokesman’s surname in paragraph 2)

NEW YORK (Reuters) - T-Mobile USA, owned by Deutsche Telekom AG (DTEGn.DE: Quote, Profile, Research), said on Tuesday it would offer unlimited text messaging and voice calls for $99.99 a month, starting on Thursday February 21.

The company's current offerings include unlimited text messaging for $14.99 and 5,000 minutes of calls for $129.99, according to spokesman Peter Dobrow.

The fourth biggest U.S. mobile service unveiled the plan hours after its two biggest rivals AT&T Inc (T.N: Quote, Profile, Research) and Verizon Wireless announced unlimited voice plans for $99.99.

(Reporting by Sinead Carew)
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Yetskii

join:2002-03-01
Hazel Park, MI

Metro PCS FTW

I have unlimited local and long distance....for 35 bucks a month. Granted it is only in a few area's in the US, but how can they have it so cheaply, where the big boys charge 100 bucks?
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VashTS

@verizon.com

Metro

I worked at a Metro, they make most there money off the phones they sell not the service. Yes I have it and have and it for years, I now get all the features they wanted extra for for free. Not that I use them, its just good to know im getting the same if not more for less money

Bagheadfan

@comcast.net

Re: Metro

I agree Metro works great. If you have in your area definately get its alot better than VZ (and cheaper!). For $50/mo you get unlimited talk one flat rate with all the extras.
Yetskii

join:2002-03-01
Hazel Park, MI

said by VashTS :

I worked at a Metro, they make most there money off the phones they sell not the service. Yes I have it and have and it for years, I now get all the features they wanted extra for for free. Not that I use them, its just good to know im getting the same if not more for less money
SO you buy one of their 100 dollar phones, and 50 dollar service...in 2 months you have already saved yourself 50 buks over ATT/Sprint/Verizon....
fiberguy
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Verizon is only good for non-business, personal end users, who live in the area, don't travel and want a cheap azz phone. The service level is HORRIBLE.. I'd not even pay the $50 for the service.. Sorry.. not against you.. but Metro PCS, as many call it, Ghetto PCS, doesn't show they are serious about providing a quality service.

kapil
The Kapil

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Chicago, IL

T-Mo Unlimited

T-Mobile is on the bandwagon too now. $99 unlimited voice and messaging. Add unlimited data, and I'm there.
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dcurrey

join:2004-06-29

Screw up

Did Sprint screw up announcing this before finalizing anything. Or was this a calculated risk to see what others would charge then go in and undercut them.


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kcir

join:2005-07-30
Butner, NC

me too, me too

enuf said
slyphoxj

join:2002-06-23
Brook Park, OH
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MetroPCS, Cricket, Revol are good for some

There are some who can't, or don't, leave their metro area very often, if at all. Cricket/MetroPCS/Revol (or any other "unlimited PCS" carrier) makes sense for these folks. Why pay for nationwide service and roaming that you can't use (or won't use very much)?

And for those who do occasionally venture out of town, there's always Page Plus, Virgin Mobile or Alltel U prepaids to fill the void (cheapest if they can get a hold of a used basic phone).
lefty1

join:2002-10-25
Clay, NY

Re: MetroPCS, Cricket, Revol are good for some

said by slyphoxj See Profile :

There are some who can't, or don't, leave their metro area very often, if at all.
Cricket lives on the fact that some people never travel as far as the city limits of their own town; primarily those in lower socioeconomic groups. In even a mid-sized city (100,000 or more), that's more users than you might think.

Any one of the major cell-phone carriers could increase their market share significantly if slowly if they really understood customer service, but none of them do - or ever will. They think it's all about their reps acting polite and friendly. If I have an issue I want resolved, I'd rather get someone dry and professional who knows what they're doing than someone friendly who doesn't have a clue and I end up getting transferred 4 or 5 times to wrong departments.
Fraidman

join:2007-08-09
Aurora, CO
That's how I do it. I use Cricket while here in town. But if I were to travel, I just bring my VM phone with me instead

stephend2

@deltacom.net

cellular south...only MS, parts of TN, AL, FL

I've not studied the fine print too much yet, but cellular south has a completely unlimited plan for smartphones..$99/mo gets you unlimited calling, long distance, roaming, text, web access. thats a new plan, but they've been doing unlimited calling with long distance and 750 included roaming mins for years now...for $50

frustrated7878

@rcn.com

crap service

great price at&t! now if u can only offer good service as well.
tmc8080

join:2004-04-24
Floral Park, NY

stay away from at&t.

bad service and dropped calls are just the beginning..
the cost savings from minor carriers being bought up & the analog roaming network dying added up to the cost savings that allow for $99 unlimited voice. I'd stay a bit longer on the sidelines until wireless carriers include unlimited text, data/web features for the same or lower price. The current plans are just throwing the public a bone...

Local unlimited plans (at half ~$50) are nearly worthless because of wifi enabled phones.
wolfsmane

join:2003-05-01
Aiken, SC

Re: stay away from at&t.

for several years, suncom @ $49.99/month.
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