AT&T Also Raising DSL Prices In 2010

said by Nightfall:

Keep in mind thats if you have comcast TV. If you have no Comcast TV then your price goes up from $42.95 to $56.95 or so. You add $13 for basic cable or $15 for no cable TV (might as well buy basic).

Actually, it is my understanding that the $42.95 Internet price can be had with the bundled Comcast telephony service. So you should be able to dump your landline (if you still have it), and port your number over to Comcast for a "double-play" service: Telephone and Internet by Comcast.

Could be worth looking into.
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said by NormanS:

Personally, I think Comcast voice is a ripoff. Its VOIP using your internet and its marked way up. Better off using something like CallCentric, VOIPo, or another 3rd party carrier and saving more money and paying full price for the cable internet.
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said by Nightfall:

Personally, I think Comcast voice is a ripoff. Its VOIP using your internet and its marked way up. Better off using something like CallCentric, VOIPo, or another 3rd party carrier and saving more money and paying full price for the cable internet.

But Comcast won't sell you $42.95 Internet without bundling a qualifying product; either TV, or CDV. That was my only point.

I just ran the numbers for my scenario:

AT&T voice + Internet: $58.14 current, $66.09 after price hike.
Comcast voice + Internet: $82.98

It looks like my best option is drop back to Express:

AT&T voice + Internet: $61.09

I don't need 3 Mb/s as much as I need the money (for other stuff).
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said by NormanS:

The other option you have if you want Comcast is to just pay the extra $13 a month for basic cable and use a VOIP provider that is much cheaper. Lets say you use CallCentric.

Comcast HSI $42.95
Basic cable (as opposed to paying more for HSI) $13
CallCentric VOIP = $12 on average (depends on your calling habits though)

You pay about $68 a month.

If I was still paying for my landline and AT&T Elite DSL, I would be paying $45 a month for the landline and $35 for the DSL before the price hike. So as it turns out I will save quite a bit of money.

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said by Nightfall:

The other option you have if you want Comcast is to just pay the extra $13 a month for basic cable and use a VOIP provider that is much cheaper. Lets say you use CallCentric.

Comcast HSI $42.95
Basic cable (as opposed to paying more for HSI) $13
CallCentric VOIP = $12 on average (depends on your calling habits though)

You pay about $68 a month.

I don't think so. If I sign up for Comcast TV, I should pitch DirecTV, don't you think? Why pay $13.56 a month for something I will never use. Especially when I will still wind up paying more ($68.51) than if I don't downgrade my package ($66.09). I'll just drop back to a slower tier, and save $5 a month ($7.51 a month over your suggestion).

If I was still paying for my landline and AT&T Elite DSL, I would be paying $45 a month for the landline ...

Since we are only paying $28.14 for the landline, it is kind of hard to find a comparable package for a comparable price.
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said by NormanS:

If I was still paying for my landline and AT&T Elite DSL, I would be paying $45 a month for the landline ...

Since we are only paying $28.14 for the landline, it is kind of hard to find a comparable package for a comparable price.

You can pitch Directv, but the fact of the matter is that you have to get at least basic cable for $13 a month in order to pay the lower price on HSI. If you don't, you pay $18 a month to just have HSI all on its own. So its the difference between paying $56 or $61.

As for the landline, I am just saying that if you pay the $30 for Comcast Voice, you are overpaying for VOIP.
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said by Nightfall:

You can pitch Directv, but the fact of the matter is that you have to get at least basic cable for $13 a month in order to pay the lower price on HSI.

Firstly, I won't pitch DirecTV. Secondly, what is the point of getting Basic TV if I am not even going to use it?

Internet + Basic TV: $56.51
Internet only: $57.95

A little savings; but where is the profit in spending $13.56 just to save $1.44?

As for the landline, I am just saying that if you pay the $30 for Comcast Voice, you are overpaying for VOIP.

And if I pay for Basic TV, I am overpaying anyway.
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said by NormanS:

said by Nightfall:

You can pitch Directv, but the fact of the matter is that you have to get at least basic cable for $13 a month in order to pay the lower price on HSI.

As for the landline, I am just saying that if you pay the $30 for Comcast Voice, you are overpaying for VOIP.

And if I pay for Basic TV, I am overpaying anyway.

The point of getting basic TV is to save the additional $1.44. i suppose you can pay more not to get basic TV, but I think the whole idea is to pay less if you can.

As for overpaying, you are right on that. The bundling crap really has people fuming. If you want Comcast internet, you have to buy phone or TV service just to get the discount. It is a big ripoff thats for sure.

I would never bundle Comcast Digital Voice on my current internet for $30 a month though. I would rather use Call Centric and not bundle and save money overall.
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said by Nightfall:

The point of getting basic TV is to save the additional $1.44. i suppose you can pay more not to get basic TV, but I think the whole idea is to pay less if you can.

It is a false economy. Basic TV offers nothing that I don't already have. So I am getting nothing useful out of that $13.56 than the ability to claim I am "saving" $1.44 a month.
But spending $13.56 a month for a service that I will never use? I could just toss it in the trash, and get as much out of it!

Nor is DSL any different. "Dry loop" DSL is, typically, $5 to $10 more than lineshared DSL.

I would never bundle Comcast Digital Voice on my current internet for $30 a month though. I would rather use Call Centric and not bundle and save money overall.

Well, more or less my sentiment. Which is why I won't spend $13.56 a month to get an unwanted, unneeded service in order to claim I am saving $1.44 a month.

I am better off with the status quo ante.
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said by Nightfall:

As for the landline, I am just saying that if you pay the $30 for Comcast Voice, you are overpaying for VOIP...It is a big ripoff thats for sure...I would never bundle Comcast Digital Voice...I would rather use Call Centrica...and save money.

I currently have Comcast for internet and basic TV. I have my phones with AT&T. Comcast is 63/mo., and AT&T is $70/mo. by the time I add Pioneer long distance. I was looking for an easy way to save some money with VOIP.

What I need is one line with features, and another one without.

I thought it would be easy to beat the Comcast offer, but it wasn't to be. It would cost me $40 for the first line, and $10 for the second one. That's $50. With a third party VOIP provider and only two lines I end up paying at least $20 per line, which is $40. Now add $6.00 a month for a directory listing, for one line and I only saved $4.00. If both were to be listed, I'd be $2.00 in the hole already. For my $4.00 savings I pick up 10 digit dialing for not only outbound, which I can solve by buying a PBX for my house, but when someone calls me from across the street, they will get a recording, "You also need to dial the area code when dialing this number", which causes them wonder if they will be charged for long distance if they call me. The number porting service, which is normally free, costs $25.00. All that to save a maximum of $48 / year?

I can get a MagicJack for $20 a year, where I have free long distance to the US AND Canada, and have a $1.67 phone bill, but there is more to it than that. MagicJack has the same drawbacks as Call Centric with the addition that it needs to be plugged into a computer that is on all the time, and one can't actively use two MagicJacks on one machine. A desktop will burn up about $7.00 per month of electricity, unless I buy one of the thin clients off eBay for less than $100, $200 for two. The MagicJack devices themselves are $20 each, in which case it would use about $1.00 per month, making my phone bill $2.67 a line. Now I need a battery backup for about $35.00. While not officially supported, MagicJack faxes just fine, and e-mails my voice mails to me. That would be $4.34 for two phones plus $6.00 a month for a listing = $10.34 for two lines. It would take 7 months to break even, after which I would have a $10.34 phone bill for two lines, good native fax capabilities, and nice features, but new non-portable phone numbers, 10 digit dialing, and a system that only I would want to use.

When you consider that Comcast pays for the directory listing, and pays to have AT&T to switch their numbers so local users can have 7 digit dialing, information services, free number porting, and giving out a basic second lines for $10.00, it becomes easy to understand how Comcast's value proposition has propelled them to being the third largest telephone service provider overnight. Moreover, they have a promotion for $29.95 for two lines, for 6 months, to make it worth your time to try it. It would save $480 in the first year, and I would have no hardware investment.

For something that has to be real, my only two options for two lines are AT&T POTS and Comcast. Comcast is $30.00 / month cheaper the first year (-$360), and $20.00 / month thereafter ($-240). The question now becomes, is it worth sacrificing the redundancy of having the internet and phone with two separate vendors? If I do one line on each, the AT&T bill only drops by $28, and I don't get the second line discount from Comcast, meaning I would spend more than I would with both at AT&T. If it weren't for cell phones that could be used as backups, I wouldn't even be considering Comcast.

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banditws6 Shrinking Time and Distance Premium join:2001-08-18 Frisco, TX Reviews: ·RoadRunner Cable	said by FBGuy: i hope that 12/2 comcast is available where i live for that same price. i'd be happy to give it a go. No kidding, I'm still paying $42.95/mo. for Comcast 6/1 because it seems like DOCSIS 3.0 is never gonna get here. -- "I'll follow the law until it's just stupid." -Ted Nugent
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AT&T's old and slow DSL offerings

I only wish I could get it for $25. Since I don't want POTS I pay the penalty price of $40 already--- and now it's going up.

AT&T is selling me the same speed DSL I first got in 1999. During that time they've taken away services (USENET for example). The price is about $15.00 lower then what it first cost, but honestly, it's far too overpriced now for what you get.

Unfortunately it's also a dead-end.... and changes in service mean migrating to U-verse, and paying A LOT more. Cox here offers higher speeds as well, but they also want more.

The old duo-oply two step in play.
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I get to pay 80.00+ for 1.5/384 DSL and POTS voice from AT&T in a bundled plan for business! They add an additional 20% to the 40.00 voice services with their tacked on fees for the landline. Isn't it great to have an addiitonal 20% in cost of sales transferred to the customer!? Somewhere along the line they raised my HSI-DSL service 5.00. The only good thing is that the DSL and voice is rock solid as far as being reliable and reliable is a prime requisite for working from home. This is the best offer as far as service/reliability I can get
I could go with Comcast but their reputation precedes them in my neighborhood!

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Coke join:2009-07-17	Man... What a joke. Just as their lunch is being eaten by cable companies with D3 tiers and Verizon with FIOS. Now they are raising prices on their already sub-standard offerings?
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FBGuy yippee ki yay Premium join:2005-03-19	looks like i'm going to be chipping in with my neighbors for comcast. -- sbcglobal.net speedtest result 11/11/09 - 5256kbps
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DaneJasper Sonic.Net Premium,VIP join:2001-08-20 Santa Rosa, CA kudos:7	Bellsouth area only? Are these rates and changes Bellsouth only? -Dane
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zed260 Premium join:2007-09-30 Cleveland, TN kudos:1	Re: Bellsouth area only? nope they are everywhere
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DaneJasper Sonic.Net Premium,VIP join:2001-08-20 Santa Rosa, CA kudos:7	Re: Bellsouth area only? Got a URL? I've seen info on a U-Verse price hike in the AT&T 13 state region (everything but Bellsouth), but I haven't seen any info on price changes for traditional DSL. -Dane
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said by DaneJasper:

Got a URL? I've seen info on a U-Verse price hike in the AT&T 13 state region (everything but Bellsouth), but I haven't seen any info on price changes for traditional DSL.

I doubt that the former Bellosuth will see a price hike. The only notice I have seen of a pending hike was posted in the various forums of the 13-state, former SBC regions. I anticipate that, at the worst, we (legacy SBC customers) will see our rates raised to parity with the current AT&T Southeast DSL rates.
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zed260 Premium join:2007-09-30 Cleveland, TN kudos:1	well i assume its everywhere since the prices for bellsouth and non bellsouth dsl prices have been the same since early last year so if they change it in only bellsouth then prices would be diffrent again
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DaneJasper Sonic.Net Premium,VIP join:2001-08-20 Santa Rosa, CA kudos:7	Re: Bellsouth area only? But today in Bellsouth they're offering all speeds for $25, then the published hikes in a year. In AT&T 13 state, the prices are $20, $25, $30 and $35, as they have been for some time. The U-Verse page says that rates are jumping $5 in February, but I haven't found anything to that effect on conventional DSL. -Dane
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well i assume its everywhere since the prices for bellsouth and non bellsouth dsl prices have been the same since early last year

No. The prices in the 13-state, legacy SBC regions are considerably lower that the Bellsouth DSL prices.

»www.bellsouth.com/consumer/inets···dex.html

Please note that the prominent prices are promotional; the current prices are listed in small type below them.

The current legacy SBC web page is not working with Opera, but the comparable prices are:

Elite (6m/.768M): $35 ($7.95 less than BS)
Pro (3M/.512M): $30 ($7.95 less than BS)
Express (1.5M/.384M): $25 ($7.95 less than BS)
Basic (768k/256k): $19.95 (only plan with parity)

I anticipate that we legacy SBC customers can expect a hike of $7.95 per tier (except Basic); unless they intend to raise BS prices, as well, in which case we will all eat a price hike, with the net result being parity across all regions.
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