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| | ARPU Anything to keep their average iphone users bill at around 110 dollars. | |
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join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | Re: ARPU $110 ARPU is pretty steep.
I must be down around the $30 mark, with 2 lines coming out to $66 after tax (was down to $48 before having data). | |
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join:2001-09-03
Grandville, MI | Re: ARPU $110 is for iPhone. If you iPhone bill is only $30 or ever was only $30 tell me how it is done. | |
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join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | Since I'm on a family, my 2nd line is $9.99, add data for $30, and it's just u under $40. Work gives 28% discount on service.
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| | | Yeah, complain and just keep paying it.
Nothing changes until enough people refuse the service.
I've been on that wagon for years, dump the cell phone if you don't like it, people got along just fine without them for millions of years. | |
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join:2004-08-02
Seattle, WA | Re: ARPU Problem is, times change, and there is a lot of people who truly need the device. Also, that aside, if enough people refused the service, they wouldn't stand idly by and let their cash cow disappear, they would transfer the cost on to us some other way. | |
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00000 | Re: ARPU said by Steve B:there is a lot of people who truly need the device. Sorry, but no. Food, water, and shelter are all that is "needed" in this world. Everything else is filler. | |
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00000 | Re: ARPU nope. not needed to live. nice to have though. | |
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| | | | | | said by morbo:said by Steve B:there is a lot of people who truly need the device. Sorry, but no. Food, water, and shelter are all that is "needed" in this world. Everything else is filler. BUHAHAHAHA
That made my day.
You obviously have never seen a teenager today. Their cell phone is an extra ligament (or parasite); you remove it and they will die. Some teens (and older) have texted so much they have mastered the keyboard. I have seen many people type as fast on a numerical keybaord as I can on a computer.
I screw with this one person all the time, I take her phone and she goes NUTS wanting it back, similar to a crack addict.
It's sad really. I would love to not need a cell phone, but due to my life style (running a business, managing servers, email, talking to people ect) it is a necessity. | |
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Seattle, WA | Okay.... So they say iPhone customers can't sign up for the $69 plan. Yet they say they can sign up for unlimited voice/data for $99. Its the same thing. We all knew the data plan was required...god AT&T, get with the damn program will you?
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| Re: Okay.... said by Steve B:So they say iPhone customers can't sign up for the $69 plan. Yet they say they can sign up for unlimited voice/data for $99. Its the same thing. We all knew the data plan was required...god AT&T, get with the damn program will you? I wonder how they will manage the other plans. In other words.. $720 over the 24 months they lock you in for just to get a slightly subsidized iphone... plus some exta change that the monthly service price is based on.. so it'll be slightly more then actually $720 that your gettting hosed over the non-iphone customer. With all the NEW smart phone choices.. iphone is looking less and less attractive to the consumer. With any luck, the consumer will WAKE UP and Apple will see a decline in iphone sales year over year in 2010. | |
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join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | unlimited data I think these guys should be honest instead of saying "unlimited" when they mean 5 GB. | |
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| | | Re: unlimited data The iPhone data plan is unlimited. No 5GB cap on my line. Now I've never come close to using that much data as I'm usually using the wifi connection as opposed to 3g. 3g is spotty in my area anyways. | |
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join:2004-08-02
Seattle, WA | Re: unlimited data Seriously.....you either tether or never put it down....what a shame. | |
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| | | | | Re: unlimited data I stream video podcasts over 3G.
Namely Olbermann and Maddow every morning at work. That's about 200MB an hour. | |
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join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
kudos:2 | Coming from the person who states that people truly need these devices now due to changing times. | |
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join:2004-08-02
Seattle, WA | Re: unlimited data I see your point but, until he said he was streaming podcasts, I was thinking the worst I guess. | |
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| | | It is unlimited unless you tether! My VZW BB Tour is unlimited data no 5GB cap. Read the fine print. | |
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join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | Re: unlimited data said by Big Dawg 23:It is unlimited unless you tether! My VZW BB Tour is unlimited data no 5GB cap. Read the fine print. well tethering would be the whole point. Some people don't have cable or DSL options. 5 GB isn't going to cut it. | |
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join:2004-01-26
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kudos:2 | Re: unlimited data Since when is tethering the whole point of a smartphone data plan? | |
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Patrick Afb, FL | Yawn Still waiting to read where the good deal is at? | |
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| | It is a flashback.. No shock...it is two years again all over when we went through this
No info for the reps yet
•Quick Messaging Device customers may choose unlimited talk for $69.99 and Family Talk plans may choose unlimited talk for $119.99 per month (for two lines). These plans require a minimum of $20 per month for individual plans and $30 per month for Family Talk plans in texting and/or Web browsing packages for new and upgrading customers.
This sounds as if the texting is mandatory here. It also looks like if you have a smartphone and are grandfathered into the data plan not being mandatory you will lose that. I'm sure More specifics will come by Tuesday
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| | | Re: It is a flashback.. You are correct.
So if they were held accountable for their advertising and had to speak the truth pricing would be listed as:
$99.99 for an individual or $149.99 for 2 lines. | |
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join:2004-08-02
Seattle, WA | What about.... My particular setup is that I have an iPhone and my secondary line (FamilyTalk) is just a regular phone. I wonder how that would work with these new plans. They talk about the cost of two smartphones...not a mix.
Also, as another stated, are they making texting mandatory? That is what it looks like.... | |
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join:2009-07-01
Collegeville, PA | AT&T: Playing "Follow the Leader" with Verizon Message to AT&T: Stop trying to mimic Verizon when they make changes that you make changes. Come up with your own original ideas, plans, and pricing that make you unique and stand out from Verizon, not looking like their shadow. Think outside the box! | |
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
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| Re: AT&T: Playing "Follow the Leader" with Verizon First it's me-too with HSPA 7.2, now it's me-too with plan pricing. Hey, at least AT&T isn't falling ridiculously behind everyone else.
Wonder what Sprint will do now; their unlimited voice + text plan is now in line with what AT&T and Verizon charge for the same thing, and Sprint doesn't have a $70 unlimited voice-only option...yet...though on prepaid they're glad to provide unlimited voice + text + data for $50-$60 depending on your phone. | |
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join:2000-10-01
Broomall, PA | this is unremarkable. Blackberry users don't get a break with internet/blackberry email.
True this new pricing is not an original idea. I think the last original idea to come from this company was when it was Cingular and they started the roll over minutes. | |
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join:2008-12-01
Santa Maria, CA | oh boy 120 family plan.... wait txts damn better at $40 and damn iphone data another 60 and taxes those tricky sobs another 12 so thats roughly $232!!! wow.... well i dont have to have Satellite | |
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join:2005-03-10
Whittier, AK
1 edit | Purely coincidence my ass These bastards might as well share the same offices. I like how they really try to differentiate each other. If this does prove to people that megacorps competing on my price is dead, I don't know what will.
Someone plase explain to me how is texting not considered data.
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Fresh Meadows, NY
kudos:1 | Re: Purely coincidence my ass Data and Text are not sent the same way through the network. Texting shouldn't cost so much but texting at least works when I can't get a data signal.
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| | | | Re: Purely coincidence my ass Txt uses less then 1/10 the band width needed for voice. The price is simple "Supply and demand" . If you want it it cost$$ regaurdless of what it cost them to supply it.
ATT Is copying Verizon. They started what they call A-List ( same as family circle ) Now they are doing the TXT thing after Verizon. | |
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 | You could say that AT&T is competing with Verizon on price, especially considering that if AT&T kept their regular unlimited pricing you could bet that Verizon would push out a big ad campaign about how AT&T is $30 more expensive than Verizon. | |
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
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| Re: Bye Bye Centennial Wireless Wait a few more days. Boost Mobile is coming out with CDMA phones. Your only choices are the BlackBerry Curve 8330 (not the new one) for $250 and the Sanyo 3810 for $80 (no EvDO, Razr-esque formfactor) but you're on Sprint's CDMA (not iDEN) network.
If Boost had a better selection of smartphones (Android anyone?) I'd switch from my current Sprint plan and get a dumbphone on Page Plus Cellular for when I'm out of Sprint's service area. I'm sure that sort of thing will happen sooner or later... | |
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|  Radio ActiveMy pappy's a pistolPremium
join:2003-01-31
Fullerton, CA | said by backfeed: Seriously considering Boost Mobile. $50/ month for all, including web....only bad thing is it is on the iDEN network.. Looking for thoughts from others?? I have Boost, and am pleased with the value and service. Got it eight months ago, and have had zero problems. The web is only WAP, and is painfully s l o w... Texts seem to be delivered quickly enough, but the real nice part is the PTT... Wifeypoo and I can chat spontaneously without having to place a call to each other.
Can't speak to "Nationwide," because we aren't important enough to travel around the country all the time, but in SoCal, we have yet to find a place without service. Almost zero drops. Re-Boosting every month is easy through the phone, on the web, or at any retail that sells it.
I've had great Custeomer Service on the rare occasions I have had to call them, answering fairly quickly and having knowlegable people who are very polite.
FWIW, I have the Motorola i335. I have dropped it several times, and have yet to damage it. I have done it on purpose just to freak out my family, too. It is said to be "ruggedized" and I believe it to be so. I don't think I'll be getting rid of it, but might get the i465 just because of the qwerty.
Of course, YMMV. 
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Peru, IN | Re: Bye Bye Centennial Wireless Thanks for the input!!
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| | In the clouds of..... You are all completely ignorant!! It's called competition. And it's the 2 top wireless companies, what would you expect them to do. Did any of you every take economics??? The bottom line is AT&T had the better data experience, hands down. | |
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 | Re: In the clouds of..... Actually, I'd take Verizon data over AT&T any day of the week. It's a little slower, depending on where you are, but it's more reliable, available in a LOT more places and in my area (TX) is actually as far or faster than AT&T on downloads. | |
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| | | Competition would be for them to underbid each other until the price was somewhere just above cost rather than all of the companies to simply agree on a price where there are huge profit margins. Its the difference between an open marketplace and an oligopoly. | |
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| Instead of posting on here while at work you should be busy talking on those phones.
But anywayz, ATT has to have their employees lie even more about competition they have with VZW on top of the 3G claims.
But if ATT can afford to set these prices, why not go NO contract the same way TM did.???
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| | | competition drives prices down not matching prices when one company raises there prices. come on if what you call competition was truly competition you would be paying through the roof for everything. But if your idea was true, every business in America would love it as they could make as much money as they wanted | |
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| More expensive than Verizon If you have what Verizon would call a multimedia phone on AT&T, the cheapest your plan can be is $60 now, either with a limited data package and a limited text package or an unlimited messaging pack. Verizon OTOH is $50 per month (voice + mandatory $10 data plan), though if you use more than 1000 texts per month and don't use any data AT&T wins.
I have a sneaking suspicion that AT&T didn't include a mandatory data plan on their feature phones because their data network is not as robust as Verizon's and people would complain. Texting takes a lot less net-work than data. | |
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join:2007-02-26
Aliso Viejo, CA | Rip off These new plans are a RIP OFF! | |
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| | Reminds me of King of the Hill Reminds me of that episode of KotH where the 4 gas companies work together to raise prices across the board. there's a name for that, it's called Price Fixing. ATT and Verizon are doing it. If other carriers start doing it then the crime is just MORE blatantly obvious. :/ | |
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| | | Re: Reminds me of King of the Hill I early terminated on ATT last Feb and went to Verizon. With ATT I got the Tilt on day one. By doing that on Oct 5, 2007 I missed by 2 weeks getting my ETF prorated downward by $5 per month completed. So I gave ATT their $175 ETF but at my pace of $25 per month for 7 months. Now I am into my 11th month with Verizon and want to do the same to them after seeing the Sprint plan. I mean $70.00 for unlimited calling to mobile phones on any network (450 minutes for calling non mobile phones), unlimited text and unlimited data. So if most of your calls are to mobiles (or you make fewer than 450 minutes of calling to non-mobile phones), Sprint (and even T-Mobile plans to a lesser extent) make Verizon's and ATT's plans look like the insult that they are! Coincidentally I emailed Verizon about this just yesterday and their response by voice message was that "Verizon pricing is very competitive with ATT" They did not dare respond to my comparison with Sprint. They also asked me to please wait a couple of days for a big announcement on price reduction......and 16 hours later....here it is .....woopee!
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2 edits | Re: Reminds me of King of the Hill Where do you people get your information. As for you, wayne8888, the declining ETFs started in May 2008. As for the rest of you, the only thing changing is the unlimited plan that is currently $99. It is going down by $30 to $69. Everyone knows that data on any smart phone is an additional $30, so for you iPhone whinos, the $99 is the $69 unlimited voice plan and the $30 iPhone data plan. Unlimited texting has been $20/month for a long time. Texts are not data, they piggyback on the GSM voice part of the network. There are also other texting plans; 200 for $5/month and 1500 for $15/month.No one is making you change your current plan.To my knowledge, AT&T is not making any changes with the standard/"multimedia" phones, so no data requirement, like VZW. This is my understanding of it all.
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| | | | | Re: Reminds me of King of the Hill You might be right about the pro-ration of the ETF, but when I early terminated on Feb 28, 2009 it was from the mouth of an ATT CSR who said that I just missed the date (they said Oct 15Th 2007, I upgraded to the tilt on Oct 5 2007 with new 2 year contract) for eligibility for the reduced ETF. Hope that answers your question about where I get my information from! Whenever it was, I know that Verizon did it before they did. In effect $99 for unlimited text, talk, and data matches Sprint's original unlimited plan and is $50 less than the big 2 used to offer for their version of unlimited for PDA/Smartphones . But I still like sprint's $70 unlimited voice to mobile (450 min to non-mobile) with unlimited text and data. | |
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| Re: Reminds me of King of the Hill I'm not doubting you about the smaller carriers having better rates and I don't know who started the declining ETFs. I also believe you that you were misinformed, if you had a standard consumer plan (no affiliation to a business for a discount), as I have had issues with them before. For all those wondering, I am an employee of at&t, but I voice my own opinions. I work for their Business Care customer service. Most of the reps in my dept. will give correct information. | |
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join:2003-08-11
Hilliard, OH | Collusion I'm eagerly awaiting some consumerist spin to somehow present this as collusion. Since the majors raising their SMS rates in tandem is collusion, certainly lowering rates together is collusion as well, right???? | |
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| | so long I'm done being ripped off by AT&T. I ported our lines to Virgin Mobile today. I have 2 lines, one with an iPhone and we use collectively about 100 of our 600 family plan minutes a month. Total cost $115 or so and that's with an 18% discount from my employer. New phone bill, $55/month for 200 min per line and 1000 txt messages on one of the lines.
I don't really need an iPhone so goodbye AT&T. I've had service with them since with you since you were SunCom in my area (1998ish). You've charged me too much for service for too long. | |
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@verizon.net | economy I have never seen people complain so much. Everything goes up..... gas fluctuates every day...so do cell phone plans every once in awhile... so what?We can't do anything about it. We have to pay it regardless. Im blogging because Im wondering, don't you all have anything better to do than complain about cell phone service on some blog? And to the gentleman who says he changed from at&t.. to Verizon... and is now mad at Verizon and is now going to Sprint... SERIOUSLY?? You have THAT much time on your hands? | |
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| | | Re: economy Mr hmm, It takes a very small percentage of the time on my hands to try to make the best deal that I can make for myself and, as they say, time is money and saved money is worth the time! I'm not so much complaining about the fact that the new pricing at Verizon or at ATT is much ado about nothing just making a note of it. Part of making it in the not so roaring 2000's, is knowing how to work the retention departments be they at Comcast,Verizon, Directv (got a great deal from them just by saying that I was ready to go on to less expensive pastures "Dish") etc. I actually left ATT after 5 years as customer after the buying an Altima Hybrid which did not play nice with the windows mobile 6.1 bluetooth stack in my ATT Tilt so I got a Storm and went to big Red. Now I bought an unlocked Storm 2 at (which is infinitely better than the Storm). I must admit that I'm tempted at the Sprint deal. Verizon and ATT are not doing anything evil they simply have been successful competing against each other and ignoring the smaller small fry as well as the larger small fry (Sprint and T-mobile). Should they start losing significant numbers of customers, they may start lowering their prices to match some of the small fry. Once Verizon does it ..... you know that ATT will follow (as usual). | |
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join:2004-09-11
Woburn, MA | Sooo if I have an iPhone and then a regular phone on family talk how much will it be for unlimited? | |
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