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Sterling Heights, MI | Amazing I am not looking forward to see how advertisers shows more crap down our throats that we neither want nor need.
I am just hoping that whatever the future of media watching is, its controlled more by the user than the advertisers. | |
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Burlington, MA | Re: Amazing The alternative, of course, is just taking whatever amount of money that broadcasters get from advertising, and charging viewers for viewing. Given that the requirement for cash outlays to view programming will probably slash viewership, you'd probably have to gross up the amount charged. How much? How much do DVDs cost when first released? Figure about that much... perhaps divided by the number of episodes, for each episode, if sold episode-by-episode. Or (unremarkably) just about what Amazon Unbox currently charges. | |
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| Re: Amazing I would rather pay a higher cost for TV service and have no ads, then have to deal with commercials/popups.
Even the stations own advertising (at the bottom of the screen) is insanly annoying.
Lets look at a football game. The game is sponsored by GM. The kickoff is sponsored by ATT. The commercial timeout is sponsored by Edward Jones. The starting lineup roll call is sponsored by Mcdonalds. The halftime show is sponsored is sposored by Staples. The "slow-mo" review is sponsored by Comcast. If an advertiser can get in,they will. I am waiting for the day where sports stars wear ads on their uniforms (sorry Nascar fans, auto-racing isnt a sport)
Its ludacris that even when watching LIVE tv, ads are shoved down our throat | |
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Burlington, MA | Re: Amazing said by baineschile:I would rather pay a higher cost for TV service and have no ads, then have to deal with commercials/popups. Me too, but unfortunately we live in a society with other people and we don't each one of us get to dictate to the rest how things are going to be. It's called the "mass" market because economies of scale are used to keep prices reasonable, but that also means that what is offered is a influenced by what everyone wants, with no one getting what they individually want, specifically. | |
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AND if ads disturb you so much try reading a book, no commercials at all, not one. | |
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Sterling Heights, MI | Re: Amazing The Lions dont play in books every Sunday. | |
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Burlington, MA | Re: Amazing You mean your desire for commercial free, free television is your own personal greed. That makes sense. | |
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Sterling Heights, MI | Re: Amazing I pay the cable company. It takes me 3 minutes to write a check and mail it once a month. I shouldnt have to be bombarded with ads every 2 minutes while watching TV. | |
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1 edit | Re: Amazing You write a what and do what with it? Join us here in the 21st century. | |
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Sterling Heights, MI | Re: Amazing well, I actually do autopay from the bank. I just used the writing a check story for effect and a point. | |
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Burlington, MA | Evidently, you should have to be bombarded with advertisements. What promise was made to you saying that you shouldn't? Why are you special? | |
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Sterling Heights, MI | Re: Amazing "life, liberty, and the persuit of happiness" | |
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Burlington, MA | Re: Amazing You were promised the ability to pursue happiness... you weren't promised that you'd being given happiness.  | |
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Valencia, CA | How about I use my OTA rabbit ears and not pay at all. | |
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Burlington, MA | Re: Amazing You'll still pay, in terms of watching commercials, or having product placement in what you watch, or having advertising overlays take up part of the screen while you watch something. | |
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kudos:2 | Re: Amazing However since it's not IPTV it's not gonna be a popup. | |
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Ada, MI | said by baineschile:I am not looking forward to see how advertisers shows more crap down our throats that we neither want nor need. No? At least with this, you can buy a 100" TV and tape some cardboard around the edges and view the middle 40" for your shows. | |
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Glendale, CA | Re: Amazing Omg I am so tired of seeing these annoying commercials. COMMON we don't want to see damn VIAGRA COMMERCIALS with a fake smile of that old dude flirting with his 80 year old wife.
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| | Inevitable? It is only inevitable if people accept it and do not complain. It is like everything else, if people accept it and become passive over something, sure it will happen.
However if people stand up for what they want in a service they are /paying for/ then it can be stopped. 
Between the thread you refer to, plus another thread I started earlier you can already see there are people who are quite unhappy about this.
If AT&T does not stop these ads, or at least give people a way to opt-out of them or keep them turned off and then people begin canceling their service due to this, I guarantee you they will get the hint and stop them (or give an opt-out ability).
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Or at minimum tell him to go to dslreports.com and read the posts so he can see how angry it is making people. | |
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Stepford, CA | said by bhimebaugh:Can you provide the e-mail address of the AT&T CEO you talked to so we can e-mail him our thoughts? Like that asshole (1) reads his own email and (2) gives a damn what consumers want. Hint: AT&T does not care abut anything but making money and lots of it.
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kudos:1 | Re: Inevitable? trsut me he reads his email i gurentee it | |
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Santa Monica, CA | said by POB:said by bhimebaugh:Can you provide the e-mail address of the AT&T CEO you talked to so we can e-mail him our thoughts? Like that asshole (1) reads his own email and (2) gives a damn what consumers want. Hint: AT&T does not care abut anything but making money and lots of it. Call me old-fashioned, but when I get irked, I write paper letters, to CEOs. They are read, they do receive a written response, with a direct contact within the executive hierarchy.
I can't say that my correspondence with AT&T over the years has yielded the same level of satisfaction that I receved from Verizon, Sprint, and dozens of other national firms, but they DO read them.
Rest assured, the same "greed" so often used here as a perjorative, drives corporations to offer better products, and indeed, to listen to those who complain. | |
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Burlington, MA | Re: Inevitable? The profit motive drives companies to listen to customers' behaviors, not their empty threats. Talk is cheap. | |
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Stepford, CA | Re: Inevitable? said by elray: when I get irked, I write paper letters, to CEOs. They are read, they do receive a written response, with a direct contact within the executive hierarchy. I have no doubt that your letters are replied to albeit with the very same cookie cutter form letter that is dispersed by Congre$$ional aides on behalf of elected representatives. Every single one of those form letters are identical to this one:
Dear Mr./Mrs. Joe Blow:
Thank you for writing (insert entity name here). As your (insert title here) we welcome your opinion(s). Have a nice day.
Sincerely,
(insert name/title here)
These kind of "responses" are worthless lip service that accomplishes nothing beyond generating bills paid by the taxpayer for the stationery, ink, printer, computer and postage used to write the letter.
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Santa Monica, CA | Re: Inevitable? said by POB:said by elray: when I get irked, I write paper letters, to CEOs. They are read, they do receive a written response, with a direct contact within the executive hierarchy. I have no doubt that your letters are replied to albeit with the very same cookie cutter form letter that is dispersed by Congre$$ional aides on behalf of elected representatives. These kind of "responses" are worthless lip service that accomplishes nothing beyond generating bills paid by the taxpayer for the stationery, ink, printer, computer and postage used to write the letter. Not at all. Government has no incentive to listen; corporate America does.
The replies I get specifically answer my complaint(s), and invite dialog with real people and I get followup calls that can last a half hour as we discuss the broader issues. If its a repair issue still unresolved (alas, a week later), various regional management elements are made accessible and they DO answer.
I'm afraid that with AT&T, they still have a long long way to go before I'd recommend them for anything, and I routinely migrate customers off of their services - but I always let them know why, and they are interested, they do want to retain customers. | |
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Burlington, MA | While I agree with the implication of what you've written, the nefarious assertion is just silly. You are confusing "caring" about what customers want (which AT&T, like most every company, does indeed) with "bowing to the whims" of customers. Big difference. Sometimes it seems like some consumers think the way thing are or should be is with them unilaterally dictating to service providers, as if they were despotic monarchs and the service providers were serfs. The provision of service in the mass-marketplace is a business transaction: Service providers offer something for a specific price, and consumers get to decide for themselves, each one of them, whether to accept or decline what is offered.
AT&T almost surely cares what consumers want, because that indicates to them what they can apply to their offerings so as to increase the revenues they bring in, which in turn better serves their primary obligation, to their owners. | |
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Burlington, MA | It is inevitable anyway. Even Karl acknowledge that complaining just will, "help shape this new landscape of advertising" -- no reasonable person believes that complaints will obviate it. | |
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So if anyone from AT&T is reading this, be careful. In many markets, U-Verse is the new competitor to the incumbent cable system. And if they want to remain in second place, they can keep pulling stunts like this. | |
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kudos:3 | Re: Careful, AT&T It's making that small in-house banner ad on the comcast guide seem a little less "intrusive" I bet...
The thing is, IPTV will eventually become the standard of closed circuit television services.. Even Comcast has been talking about IPTV, in house, for some time now, going back to the earlier part of this decade. When one entity rises up, so do the rest... it's the way it works, just as when one gas station raises prices, the rest follow, instead of simply lowering prices to compete. | |
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kudos:1 | business models The cable TV service is free because of the ad space that is given to the cable TV company by the channel owners. Your just a sucker for paying for it. Same with a magazine such as Time or Newsweek, the magazine makes all of its money from the advertisers, the $4 you pay at the newsstand just goes straight to the newsstand owner, how do you think you can get a 1 year subscription for $15 a year? Same with a newspaper, the newspaper is nearly free, what it costs at retail is just pays the stores rent. The newspaper/Cable TV company should be paying YOU to watch them, because you are $ in terms of impressions.
This is all sneaky business model, I once saw an ad for a $100K house, land not included, guess which real estate developer just got a free (or profitable demolition)!
Another famous example is a fortune 500 supermarkets. They rent shelf space to the vendor on a per month basis, then they apply a tax to anything the vendor sells in the store. Profit from your upstream, profit from you downstream, the american way to be a capitalist.
"you pay me to crush your car or get rid of your scrap metal/recycling metal cans, you need to get rid of it, and you have no other choice, so I will make profit from taking the scrap metal from you, and then make a profit selling the scrap metal I got for negative free on the wholesale market"
And this is why we need Tru2Way, but AFAIK, Tru2Way uses Java and complete control of the GUI of the client device, so even with Tru2Way, you will still see pop up ads. 2 way cable card with XML IPG/VOD supplied data should be the proper way to wrestle control from the barons of capitalism. | |
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Burlington, MA | Re: business models Your understanding of tru2way is completely backwards: It provides the ability for the service provider to impose their UI on your box. | |
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From AT&T's High Speed Internet - Safety and Security webpage:AT&T U-verse Safety and Security
AT&T High Speed Internet offers powerful online protection:
* Anti-Virus software to automatically scan and clean e-mail attachments...
* Anti-Spy to detect and remove adware and spyware...
* SpamGuard Plus to separate unsolicited junk email from genuine messages.
* AddressGuard™ uses Disposable E-mail Addresses (DEA) to protect your privacy and protect ...
* Pop-Up Blocker to prevent annoying pop-up ads.
* Parental Controls to let you control ...
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Kind of ironic they brag about blocking internet popups and serve them up on the TV side. | |
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Burlington, MA | Re: I got the ad It's not uncommon. TiVo also is in the business of helping folks bypass the advertising other folks direct their way, but then turns around and presents advertising themselves.
The thing a lot of people seem to ignore is that all that matters is value: Consumers are going to pay whatever something is worth to them (on average), whether that payment is in the form of viewing advertising or cash outlay. Complaining about one or the other is inane. It just noise. There is no free lunch. While we'd all love to get everything we want cheap and how we want it, that's unreasonable. So we'll play this game of cat and mouse with service providers, trying to dodge reality. | |
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kudos:1 | DVRicide First usage of DVRicide. Making DVR recording impossible. That message will pop up randomly during you recording and stay on the recording to the end of it, since there was no human to manually clear it with the remote. Finally TV broadcasters figured out how to kill the evil DVR. | |
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It shouldn't, the popup should be just on the screen, not in the video streem. | |
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And since the only DVR that will get the stream before the GUI is overlaid is the AT&T DVR, then it's the only one that will work. All the rest--TiVo, Windows Media Center, MythTV--will get the stream later and therefore be rendered useless by these ads. | |
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kudos:1 | Re: DVRicide Don't worry, they'll find work-arounds.  | |
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San Francisco, CA | Can you cancel? Is this enough of an offense to cancel a contract legally? | |
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1 edit | Re: Can you cancel? Ahhh, OK, no contract. Then the answer is simple. Walk. Maybe you can let them know why, but just leaving enmass should convince them that this is not a workable business practice.
I did it with Comcast and their crappy DVRs and overcharging. Too bad more didn't, it might have had an impact. Instead, I'm stuck with lower speed broadband options and crappy expensive cable TV options due to my neighbors' refusal to vote with their wallets. I guess being fat-asses in SUVs on their cell phone's isn't enough - they need their chips and cable when they're on the couch. | |
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Lombard, IL | AT&T Pop-Ups = Annoying, but not that big of deal I saw this last night and thought "WTF," and then dismissed it. A bit irritating, but no big deal as long as AT&T doesn't get carried away.
I was a lot more annoyed when Comcast started putting ads that you had to scroll through in the program guide.
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Dallas, TX | Re: AT&T Pop-Ups = Annoying, but not that big of deal Same here. Though my mom was a little more annoyed about them than I was.
I said there was nothing you could do to prevent them, only dismiss them when they show up.
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Once they see people as seeing this as acceptable behavior they will continue to increase the frequency and the annoyance factor.
Someone posted the e-mail address of the CEO and telephone number.
Please e-mail and call and complain - keep it professional, but make clear that this is unacceptable to be placing pop up ads on a service for which we are paying for.
Suggest that if they want to do it to give people a method to opt-out so they do not see the unwanted ads at all!
Here is the info ...
Randall Stephenson, AT&T CEO
rs2982@att.com (direct)
randall.stephenson@att.com
phone: 210-351-5401 (direct to his secretary)
fax 210-351-3553
alternate phone: 210-821-4105 (headquarters, press 3, ask for Mr. Stephenson's office)
Compliments of ...
»consumerist.com/consumer/executi···9392.php
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kudos:1 | Re: AT&T Pop-Ups = Annoying, but not that big of deal Clearly Stephenson isn't a geek (what CEO is?).
If my initials were "RS" I'd be all over the username "RS232"
...especially at my own damned company.
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I'd much rather go back to TV without being able to skip normal commercials than this. | |
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It's a hot play, and the quarterback is running through a broken field towards the goal line with less than a minute to play.
20 yards from the goal line...
Interrupt! - an aT&T commercial pops up, covering the screen, blasting loud rock music, and urging you to buy more services from AT&T.
The commercial lasts 60 seconds.
End of commercial.
The game broadcast just switched to a broadcast commercial.
Wouldn't that be fun! | |
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New Milford, CT | Re: just picture this.... I can somewhat picture that since I had a popup ad appear about 5 seconds before Mexico scored their first goal as I was watching a recording of yesterday's World Cup Qualifier, blocking my view of the action. Luckily I could roll back and see the play, but stuff like this is only going to drive sports fans to other providers if they try to pull a stunt like that again. | |
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join:2009-05-06
Charlotte, NC | Protect the Brand Companies give a lot of lip service to building a Brand a stunt like this kills millions of $$ that have been spent on that effort.
Call both AT&T and Domino Corporate offices and express your displeasure. Call and threaten to cancel service if the retention department hears gets enough call it will get upstairs as not profitable. | |
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| | Who is getting the money? So AT&T is placing ads over TV shows that show ads which fund the production and broadcast of the TV show. AT&T charges its users for the privilege of getting U-Verse. So it seems like everyone is already getting paid.
Why the extra ads and who is getting the money? If that money is going to AT&T and not the production companies then they should be giving all the U-Verse subs a discount on their bill.
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Now that I am aware of that crap, I won't be surprised anymore .
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Glendale, CA | Screw TV This is the damn reason why I never watch TV really. TOO MANY DAMN ADS AND COMMERCIALS! Even when you have digital cable with their top channels, you STILL get bombarded with ads DURING THE MOVIE OR SHOW on the bottom of the screen.
When will people realize this and get up and say enough is enough?
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Charlotte, NC | Update reply The announcement about the THDVR was to inform about an update and the solution to a problem. It would save many people time by avoiding service calls.
This was an ad big big difference. | |
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Also, try contacting your local city hall. They authorized at&t's video franchise, and can revoke it, just as easily.
the PUC will demand that at&t respond. If you make enough waves in your city council, and they start talking about revoking at&t's video franchise ... at&t will back WAY off!
Can you imagine?? All the U-Verse customers in Anytown, U.S ... no longer being allowed U-Verse? Attack the bottom line!
With the access line loss, over the past 10 years, at&t is depending on new, advanced services to make up that revenue. Put that at risk, and at&t WILL LISTEN!
I had U-Verse, early on and it was simply amazing. There were many, many channels that had NO advertisement, at all. I for one, would be very, very upset, with at&t, for messing with that, by sticking pop-ups on my T.V.
However, since it's IPTV ... the ads probably come from an ad server, at a specified address. Just figure out what IP that server is, and put a rule in your firewall, to block it! I do it now, for doubleclick.net... and others! Easy as pie! | |
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Bradenton, FL | They are giving people more reasons..... People don't need to see this right in the middle of watching a show. They do this because they know a lot of people walk away from the t.v. when commercials come on. They are giving people more reasons to keep the TV off. | |
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