 pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium join:2002-05-02 Mount Airy, MD | Nice
This way more people will hit the cap sooner. | |
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 |  trparkyApple... YUMPremium,MVM join:2000-05-24 Cleveland, OH kudos:1 | Re: Nice Yeah, that's why I'm not upgrading. I have a year left on my contract and when it's up I'm most likely going to Sprint and possibly getting an EVO or whatever else cool Android phone there is. -- Tom | |
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 |  |  fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium join:2005-05-20 kudos:3 | Re: Nice The EVO pricing isn't exactly the greatest either... and, like anything else, they're likely to put a cap on their phones as well. Right now it's unlimited because it won't hurt them to gain some new customers while they're down and hurting for 'em.. but when/if they become popular again, they're going to HAVE to most likely add caps again. | |
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 |  |  |  gballMaster YodaPremium join:2000-11-28 South Bend, IN | Re: Nice Still much cheaper than the rip off plans for the iphone. | |
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 |  |  |  |  fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium join:2005-05-20 kudos:3 | Re: Nice Really? What is that "iPhone" plan you speak of? I didn't know "iPhone" had a plan "exclusive" to the "iPhone"...
Care to re-think that?
And hate to tell you this, but "much cheaper" is not the phase or term I'd used to describe what you're saying there. From where it stands today, it's a $10 difference.. that's hardly "much cheaper".. also, ask those people who live in non 4G areas how they like paying the mandatory $10 4G data fee that they'll likely never get to use now, or for many moons or years to come?
It's all relative.
But - still, answer the question.. what is the "rip off plans for the **iPhone**" you speak of? I didn't know there was one exclusive to the iPhone. | |
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 |  ropeguruPremium join:2001-01-25 Mechanicsville, VA | And the upgrade will probably be considered a contract change which will force people off the unlimited plan and to one of the new ones. | |
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 |  |  trparkyApple... YUMPremium,MVM join:2000-05-24 Cleveland, OH kudos:1 | Re: Nice Apparently not but still I'm starting to really hate AT&T these days. Useless sacks of crap if you ask me. All those profits and what do they do with it? Keep it and don't do jack shit with it. -- Tom | |
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| said by ropeguru:And the upgrade will probably be considered a contract change which will force people off the unlimited plan and to one of the new ones. It doesn't. You are grandfathered in, I confirmed today with AT&T customer service. -- "So, Lone Starr, now you see that evil will always triumph because good is dumb."
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 |  |  |  IPPlanManHoly Cable Modem Batman join:2000-09-20 Washington, DC kudos:1 | Re: Nice I guess the upside is that AT&T will give you a new iPhone at a discounted price, with an unlimited data plan for the next two years, when it seems like the movement is towards capped and metered data plans.
Of course, if you put off getting an iPhone for another year, I wonder if it's possible to be grandfathered in for the "unlimited" plan then... Perhaps it's possible to stretch the unlimited data plan to the "next" iPhone....
So I wonder how long the grandfathering promise will last. Anyone ask AT&T about this? -- "We're going to start at one end of (Fallujah), and we're not going to stop until we get to the other. If there's anybody left when that happens, we're going to turn around and we're going to go back and finish it." Lt. Col. Pete Newell: 1st Inf. US Army | |
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| Re: Nice said by IPPlanMan:I guess the upside is that AT&T will give you a new iPhone at a discounted price, with an unlimited data plan for the next two years, when it seems like the movement is towards capped and metered data plans. Of course, if you put off getting an iPhone for another year, I wonder if it's possible to be grandfathered in for the "unlimited" plan then... Perhaps it's possible to stretch the unlimited data plan to the "next" iPhone.... So I wonder how long the grandfathering promise will last. Anyone ask AT&T about this? What I was told this morning is as long as you have the data plan you can keep in. Once you change the data plan though you cannot go back. -- "So, Lone Starr, now you see that evil will always triumph because good is dumb."
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| Re: Nice said by IPPlanMan:So does that mean we are promised unlimited data from iPhone to iPhone with AT&T? If you have it currently, yes. -- "So, Lone Starr, now you see that evil will always triumph because good is dumb."
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Of course, we're unable to tether the whole time.... | |
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| Re: Nice said by IPPlanMan:I wonder if it's iPhone to iPhone to iPhone.... That was what I was told. As long as you have an iPhone even if you upgrade you will not lose the plan. I kept mine as I use more data. My wife has never gone over 120MB so I bumped her down to the lower plan. The rep made it evidently clear that once you change away from the $30 plan there is no going back. I asked him how long I get to keep my $30 plan and he said as long as you own an iPhone, you can keep the even if you upgrade the phone. -- "So, Lone Starr, now you see that evil will always triumph because good is dumb."
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  IPPlanManHoly Cable Modem Batman join:2000-09-20 Washington, DC kudos:1 | Re: Nice Perhaps this is the only way to keep "unlimited data"... iPhone to iPhone to iPhone. | |
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| Re: Nice said by IPPlanMan:Perhaps this is the only way to keep "unlimited data"... iPhone to iPhone to iPhone. Pretty much. -- "So, Lone Starr, now you see that evil will always triumph because good is dumb."
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| Re: Nice said by Uncle Paul:So on a family plan (all iPhones) we can have some on the lower data plans and others on the unlimited? I would assume so. Before I made the change today to my wife having a different account (for upgrade eligibility reasons) the rep said you can. -- "So, Lone Starr, now you see that evil will always triumph because good is dumb."
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| said by ptrowski:said by ropeguru:And the upgrade will probably be considered a contract change which will force people off the unlimited plan and to one of the new ones. It doesn't. You are grandfathered in, I confirmed today with AT&T customer service. It still allows AT&T to raise your rates (even while you're in contract, as long as they allow you a way out free). Like with SMS fee increases. -- My Blog 2.0 | |
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 |  |  dvd536as Mr. Pink as they comePremium join:2001-04-27 Phoenix, AZ kudos:4 | said by ropeguru:And the upgrade will probably be considered a contract change which will force people off the unlimited plan and to one of the new ones. BINGO! you don't think T is doing this "just to be nice" do you! whenever the phone company wants to do something nice for you, WATCH YOUR WALLET! -- The shortest distance between 2 points adds 1.5 stars to T. want $25? solve »coord.info/GC20A37 for me | |
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 |  kxrm join:2002-07-18 Fort Worth, TX 1 edit | Re: phone said by jchambers28:A plane phone works for me I don't need all this I phone ,droid,blackberry crap. I have a prepaid plan with unlimited talk and text and its reasonably price I think its a waste of money. Choice....
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said by jchambers28:A plane phone works for me I don't need all this I phone ,droid,blackberry crap. I have a prepaid plan with unlimited talk and text and its reasonably price I think its a waste of money. A "plane" phone, ugh?  | |
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| said by vanheve2:said by jchambers28:A plane phone works for me I don't need all this I phone ,droid,blackberry crap. I have a prepaid plan with unlimited talk and text and its reasonably price I think its a waste of money. A "plane" phone, ugh? You beat me to it.  -- "So, Lone Starr, now you see that evil will always triumph because good is dumb."
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 VanPremium join:2009-07-08 New Orleans, LA | Good for AT&T But I am still not sure why most who signed onto a 2-year deal a year ago would be OUTRAGED at how they can't get a FULLY subed phone today.
I have a 3G and waited 2 years for the new phone....seems reasonable and I knew that signing on
I decided not to get 3GS b/c I didn't qualify for a subed price and I knew why.....yet some acted like AT&T was screwing them for not letting them get a subed phone for a 2nd straight year. | |
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| Re: Good for AT&T Because a lot of people buy iPhone as status symbols, not as much now but especially years ago, having last years model is so uncool. until the iphone everyone knew and accepted that you only got a new phone from AT&T/Verizon every two years but a large percentage of iPhone users are trendy and they don't understand complex things like contracts, they understand me want, cry when I don't get my way.
That sad I bought a 3GS 32GB last august so I'm not eligible for an upgrade, I'd love a 64 gb version or a better screen, both of which are almost shoe-in's, couldn't give a crap about a front facing camera, but I'm not gonna pay full price, I'd rather wait for an LTE iPhone or Android phone next year, if it's still based on 3G, not worth the price to me.
I wonder if the bump in eligibility doesn't signal a new iPhone carrier? get a few more locked in contracts before another carrier gets a chance at the iPhone maybe? | |
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| Why? Is it that all of the information about the real tech part of the internet,wireless providers always comes to the masses by FINANCIAL media,the last time i checked i know more about the internet "thingy' than my accountant does,seems to me if more people were educated about this subject then these company's wouldn't even dare try this crap. | |
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| Re: crazy said by hayabusa3303:lets see how many people drop them or dont sign up. they want to nickel and dime, they might lose more in the end of this. I thought about it, but I ve yet to find another phone that works as a good MP3 player. I moved to the iPhone as I got tired of carrying a Blackberry and an iPod. -- "So, Lone Starr, now you see that evil will always triumph because good is dumb."
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 morboComplete Your Transaction join:2002-01-22 00000 | iPhone + AT&T = financially milkable sheeple The more I think about it, the more I think that these two companies and the people that mindlessly respond to the latest iDevice deserve one another. | |
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 |  | | Re: iPhone + AT&T = financially milkable sheeple Well said. | |
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 |  fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium join:2005-05-20 kudos:3 | "mindlessly respond" huh? ... so anyone that buys one, or CHOOSES to upgrade or buy one is "mindless" huh? ... nice.
And why is that? .. because you don't like them? .. .or becuase you say so? Either answer you pick, you're wrong. Not everyone that chooses the iPhone is mindless... for many people, the iPhone works just fine FOR THEIR NEEDS... so really, get over it. | |
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 |  |  morboComplete Your Transaction join:2002-01-22 00000 | Re: iPhone + AT&T = financially milkable sheeple Ooh! I touched a nerve. | |
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 |  |  |  fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium join:2005-05-20 kudos:3 1 edit | Re: iPhone + AT&T = financially milkable sheeple Nope.. no nerve is touched... it's just reality. You make a blanket statement and you're likely to get called on it. You insult everyone that happens to do something that YOU personally don't agree with, then expect to get slapped back. 
And by the way, the same thing you said about iPhone can be said about android based phones.. remember, Google is an "evil corporation" as well.. and it can be said that people are buying into Google's crap too.
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 |  |  |  |  morboComplete Your Transaction join:2002-01-22 00000 | Re: iPhone + AT&T = financially milkable sheeple You assume way too much to be so high on your horse. Come down to earth with us mortals.
Anyone that mindlessly responds to any device can be called a sheeple. That means iPhone, Android, Symbian, Blackberry. There are plenty of people that objectively evaluate products without going along with the herd. Those people don't mindlessly respond. See that distinction? It's not hard. | |
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I'm sure ATT sees the writing on the wall with VZW getting an iphone of it's own later this year, so if they can sucker you into another two years, that might be an extra year they get out of you before you switch over to another carrier.
(Oh, and make no mistake - if VZW got the iphone I'd be moving all my lines over to them ASAP. Sick of the ATT customer service merry go 'round and the nickel and diming.)
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| Re: Offer I'm not really interested in an iphone but if Verizon wants to make a decent deal I might. As you can see my contract expires at the end of August and while I like the rollover minutes I don't need that anymore so I'll be a free-agent. Think I'll bide my time and see what happens. It's a good time, I think, to be free of any contracts. -- When I'm against nuclear power plants I'm a leftist hippie libtard and when I'm Pro-Life I'm a rightwing religious nut. People, make up your minds!
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 |  AnClarPremium join:2003-07-31 Belton, TX | said by kingdome74:Here's what it said at my upgrade offer: iPhone Upgrade As a valued AT&T customer, we can offer you a discounted iPhone upgrade at a higher price, along with a 2-year commitment and an $18 upgrade fee. Please proceed with the online upgrade process for pricing details. You may qualify for a full discount on a standard iPhone upgrade on 08/19/2010 Higher price for long-term commitment. What a deal Ya my commitment isn't up until 4/2011 so no bump up date for me. I also have that lame quote that you have. If I sign a new 2-year commitment, I get the "privilege" of a "higher priced" discounted upgrade (Isn't than an oxymoron?). If that upgrade is the same as what I currently get as pricing for the iPhone 3GS on the AT&T website, a new 32Gb iPhone 4 will cost me $499.00 PLUS a new 2-year commitment. Big effing deal. I may as well go ahead and buy an unlocked phone from Apple for a couple of hundred bucks more, move to T-Mobile (even if I do need a mini-to-micro SIM cutter, and say f you to AT&T! I am so sick of them with their jacked up ETFs, nickel and dime price policy, bait & switch advertising, ridiculously low data caps on the new plans, and crappy network performance and customer service to boot! -- When in danger or in doubt run in circles, scream and shout! | |
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 baineschile2600 ways to livePremium join:2008-05-10 Sterling Heights, MI | why bother why do applefans get an iphone with a 2 year committment....when there is a new phone released every year. | |
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It says you are ineligable but then says you can upgrade the to the iPhone at a special rate. -- Email/MSN: Michael at hardwaregeeks.comAIM: MikeR35292 | |
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Looking at the specs for the new iphone 4 though, I have to wait and see what the $$$ is going to be for that.
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So if I have a 3GS and I am eligible now and want to get an iPhone 4....
1) Does AT&T take my iPhone 3GS back or is it mine to keep? 2) If I do keep my 3GS, what's the best way to sell my 3GS? Craigslist, eBay, Nextworth? 3) Do I my keep 3GS simcard for use in the iPhone 4 or does it go with the sold iPhone 3GS?
Pretty basic questions I know, but I trust the crowd here... -- "We're going to start at one end of (Fallujah), and we're not going to stop until we get to the other. If there's anybody left when that happens, we're going to turn around and we're going to go back and finish it." Lt. Col. Pete Newell: 1st Inf. US Army | |
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 |  fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium join:2005-05-20 kudos:3 | Re: iPhone 4 Upgrade Questions 1) It's yours.. they don't take it from you. 2) Anything that works for you, however, if you post on cragis list, you'll die!!!  3) Sim.. for the most part, I pull the sim and keep it.. the new iPhone buyer can go to AT&T and get their own. You'll get a new phone with it's own SIM. With iPhone, there really is no need to move SIM cards as it's all handled through iTunes. | |
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 |  |  IPPlanManHoly Cable Modem Batman join:2000-09-20 Washington, DC kudos:1 | Re: iPhone 4 Upgrade Questions Thanks for the info!
I don't think the old sim will fit the new iPhone 4 anyway right, since it's a MicroSim?
Has anyone had a bad experience with NextWorth or Gazelle?
I was thinking of doing that.... unless you think I'd get more money on ebay, etc.
It seems like people get more money if it's sold unlocked... -- "We're going to start at one end of (Fallujah), and we're not going to stop until we get to the other. If there's anybody left when that happens, we're going to turn around and we're going to go back and finish it." Lt. Col. Pete Newell: 1st Inf. US Army | |
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 |  | | Re: Its Not 4G said by ryderuntil:I read when jobs when showing the iPhone off he had trouble with the network and ask those in the audience to turn off their wifi. Good ole ATT Didn't know AT&T was providing the wifi for the event... -- dream your dreams with open eyes and make them come true... | |
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 |  dathing join:2002-01-09 Sykesville, MD | said by ryderuntil:I read when jobs when showing the iPhone off he had trouble with the network and ask those in the audience to turn off their wifi. Good ole ATT Get your facts straight. AT&T had nothing to do with the problem.
He asked the audience to turn off their wi-fi and put down their laptops because they were having trouble with their local wifi network, NOT the AT&T network. What does AT&T have to do with their local wifi?
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| fan not eligibile i have a fan account & it appears that att is not budging even 60 seconds on our elig upgrade date which is in fall 2010. at this time i'd consider getting 2 iphones w/, of course, data plans which ostensibly would pump up the arpu---however, att will not budge. i suppose the outcome could well be that when the upgrade gods @ attws deem i'm eligible, i may well have lost interest. not a problem. | |
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| Different slant When I started reading this thread, my initial reaction was:
Apple must have made a sweet deal to AT&T to reduce upgrade requireemnets to allow for a quick boost of iphone4 sales. Since Apple is now measured in how many iphones/ipads it sells, getting those numbers up quickly will have a "wow" factor for the next quarterly financials. | |
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