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| Surprised? Shouldn't be. AT&T's got money.
$39 billion for T-Mobile USA Still have enough money to give out to the best lawyers, lobbyists, and accountants.
They covered their asses while DT assumed the deal would go through. Now DT is AT&T's puppet, because DT has no contingency plan.
Love them or hate them AT&T knows how to play their cards every time. | |
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Any other outcome costs DT and their shareholders probably $10 to $20 billion in value. That's not a plan... that's a disaster | |
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| Re: Surprised? Shouldn't be. DT has other plans you can bet the bank on that, unfortunately for DT ATT was the biggest payday.
what everyone does not hear is the out the country (overseas) talks such as DT in talks with Vodaphone ( if DT can get out of there 45% share in Verizon in the positive) or the Canadian big boy Rogers ( who use to be rogers/ATT) whos been eying Tmobile since this ATT deal fell through.
IF DT wants out so bad they will take a offer from any bidder, weather they lose profits or not does not matter if they really want out. Its similar to a strategical default. | |
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| Re: Surprised? Shouldn't be. It actually could be a good thing for VodoFone or even Rogers. Even WIND (of Canada) could be a good fit. After all WIND is a roaming partner of TMO and if they could bring the same unlimited prices to TMO here in the States and create a HUGE NA network it'd be money in the bank.
But I agree with Budda DT has plans; they're just not going to give up and if they'd have to; i'm sure they'd do the low cost flat rate plan as they're pushing that now with ads on TV, radio, and signs up at stores and dealers. DT knows what they want to do with TMO-USA if the T deals fall through. | |
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| Re: Surprised? Shouldn't be. Theres always the grass greener on both sides as long as its not in ATT's yard..LOL
I agree Hottboi It would be better for US customers if Wind was to take over Tmobile and keep the low priced data plans and come out with some of the wind plans as well such as the $45 unlimited talk txt and data ( similar to TMO $50 plan but no stupid throttle @ 2GB) Alas Wind just does not have the capitol to make an offer for TMO however Winds new Russian parent company VimpelCom may have the financial power for such a deal, If not we all know Rogers canada definitively does Just hope if it goes that way they actually compete with ATT and not mimic them, ( for those who dont know Rogers Canada use to Be Rogers/ATT canada)
With Wind or TMO Id happily stay on hspa+ data @ full duplex of up to 84mbps with no throttle or cap ( compete with Sprint unlimited ) vs. going to ATT LTE and 2gb cap and $10 per GB overage for version 1 LTE which is only up top 100mbps. Honestly the only reason I could see A need over 6mbps on current smartphones is for Tethering multiple devices. Theres realy nothing else on todays smart phones that utalize a need for speeds higher than that. I dont currently need up to 24mbps TMO ID be happy with a (TMO) wireless plan of 5mbps uncaped/unthrottled/ unlimited data vs. (ATT) LTE a any speed with only 2GB of data.
I travel to Toronto a lot as well from Chicago or Florida at any given time and Im amazed how I get superior GSM coverage all over southern ontario and not just on the major highways but while traveling by VIA Rail train in more rural areas as well. | |
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just in the last month they got rid of the sms option in fear of iMessage and killed off A-List feature. imagine what they'll do when they have killed off another competitor? that kind of power is crazy! | |
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| Re: scummy even BEFORE the merger killing off A-List is nothing. It was a value added feature they could kill at anytime- just like anything else. and they can do anything of that as they see fit. Even drop SMS/Text/Picture messages and move them to higher plans or even start taking them out of monthly minutes as companies did before. | |
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give up bell south and cingular? is tmobile worth all that? maybe they should have tried 10 years ago, then maybe they woul've had a shot.. | |
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It's already been said DT doesn't have the money they need to make tmobile grow if this fails. They were losing customers at a steady pace before this deal and they will keep losing customers due to the fact of the deal going through.
I've seen 2 articles recently that said if this deal falls through Tmobile will die a fast death. I'm sure that DT hopes this goes through cause they know it's probably true also. | |
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 |  nonymousPremium join:2003-09-08 Glendale, AZ | Re: DT wants out any way they can Why would Tmobile die a fast death? Not everyone wants Verizon or ATT and in their market areas Tmobile is usually a decent competitor. | |
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| Re: DT wants out any way they can exactly there's no proof of tmobile's closing they have many more options and Aces up there sleeve they just wanted to "rob the bank" sort to speak as well if ATT was willing to shell out $39B. Theres always the option of partnering with another major ( overseas/ Canadian) teleco and letting DT take the back seat in the US wireless Business. | |
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| It's about eliminating competition, not expanding services. Spend 40 billion eliminating a major competitor or spend 3 billion to roll out 4G speeds across the entire country and out compete the competitors.
We know what AT&T's agenda is just by which path they choose to follow. (Hint: It's not the cheaper one.) -- "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini
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