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AT&T Drops Price Of iPhone 3GS To $49
Last attempt to get people locked in under 2 year contracts
With no Verizon iPhone unveiled at CES, the Verizon iPhone rumor du jour is that the device will be release by Verizon and Apple on Valentine's Day. In a move likely designed to get as many people locked down in long term contracts as possible, AT&T has slashed the price of the iPhone 3GS to $49 for users who sign two year contracts. You'll of course recall that AT&T recently raised the early termination fee for smartphones from $175 to $325, a major reason why the company continues to insist that defections won't hit them that hard when their iPhone exclusivity agreement ends. Rather convincing photos have surfaced showing a redesigned iPhone 5, CDMA or LTE iPhone band (the retained sim card slot is telling).
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Robert
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Don't expect..

With the increase in Android smartphones on the market, I'm not expecting the iPhone for Verizon to be as big of a hit as the iPhone when it was originally released on AT&T's network.

I think Apple's draconian mindset when it comes to the iPhone has and will continue to hurt the iPhone.

Unless the iPhone includes a revamp home screen (and not just displaying the time), and more flexibility over the customization of the iPhone (without jailbreaking), I don't really see how the iPhone can compete with Android anymore.

With each release of the iPhone, the difference between the iPhone and Android grows bigger, with Android leading.

To summarize: I don't think AT&T will see a large number of iPhone users switching to Verizon because of the network, but rather, them switching because of the phone itself (and going with an Android based phone).

Steve Jobs needs to step down from his pedestal and listen to what the people want. How can we still, in this day and age, not have multiple freaking signatures in the iPhone? Seriously...

SkellBasher
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The iPhone for Verizon will go over very well assuming you can actually make calls on it, which is the single largest issue with the AT&T iPhone.

The rest of your post is just anti-Apple spew. Maybe Android fits better with how you want your phone to operate, but the iPhone isn't a failure at all. They've sold MILLIONS of the things all over the world. Android market share is naturally going up because it's available on more than one hardware platform, but it's not cannibalizing iPhone sales at all.

Apple has sold more iPhones since Android was released than they did before. They've moved 74 million units in 4 years.

How is Android leading again?

Robert
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First, I am an iPhone user (3Gs looking to upgrade to the next iPhone in Summer of 2011). I believe I have a right to complain, bitch, and do whatever else I want since I am a user of the phone. I'm earned the privilege.

When I have to jailbreak my iphone to able to do stuff that the Android can do "out of the box", then clearly Android is the winner here.

So, as I said, unless the new iPhone makes some drastic changes (and I hate to be pessimistic here), the Android system will continue to leap miles ahead the iPhone with each release of the Android system.

The iPhone had an early start over the Android, and in little time, it has already made a huge impact on the world.

The iPhone is not a failure, but unless Steve changes his ways, it will be one of those "Do you remember the iPhone?" stories.

But like a typical fanboi, you see criticism as "anti-Apple" talk. No, it's not anti-Apple. It's criticism from an iPhone user.

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said by Robert:

First, I am an iPhone user (3Gs looking to upgrade to the next iPhone in Summer of 2011). I believe I have a right to complain, bitch, and do whatever else I want since I am a user of the phone. I'm earned the privilege.

When I have to jailbreak my iphone to able to do stuff that the Android can do "out of the box", then clearly Android is the winner here.

You're doing as if Android has no restrictions. That is far from the truth.

For example, have you ever taken a look at skype on Verizon droid? You're forced to burn up your minutes and your calls go over the CDMA voice network and not over any data connection, not even wifi. This makes skype pretty pointless for a lot of people.

Robert
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I'm pretty sure that's a carrier restriction and not a OS restriction.
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skype on verizon does use the voice network to make skype to skype calls and thats an ADVANTAGE!.
1. It does NOT use any minutes.
2. the voice quality is MUCH better than on 3g
3. it behaves like a normal phone call, thus allowing me to do a 3 way conference call, with me, my wifes mother in RUSSIA via skype and my wife on her cell !!! try doing that with wifi skype!!.

if you wish to use skype via 3g or wifi there is another skype version which can be downloaded via the market that uses wifi.

i tried both the wifi-3g skype and the verizon skype and i MUCH preffer the verizon skype.

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said by Robert:

First, I am an iPhone user (3Gs looking to upgrade to the next iPhone in Summer of 2011). I believe I have a right to complain, bitch, and do whatever else I want since I am a user of the phone. I'm earned the privilege.

When I have to jailbreak my iphone to able to do stuff that the Android can do "out of the box", then clearly Android is the winner here.

You're doing as if Android has no restrictions. That is far from the truth.

For example, have you ever taken a look at skype on Verizon droid? You're forced to burn up your minutes and your calls go over the CDMA voice network and not over any data connection, not even wifi. This makes skype pretty pointless for a lot of people.

Actually, the person who replied to you is wrong, as well. It is neither an OS or carrier restriction. It is a Skype restriction for fear of them upsetting the carriers. I make VOIP calls over wifi and 3G just fine with an SIP client with any smartphone I have owned, including my current Android-based Captivate. Lifesaver in places that have wifi but cell signals don't penetrate well. Also let's me use my Verizon mifi, in places where AT&T is not so good(like hill towns in upstate NY). The privilege is free, both in terms of the app and SIP setup.

SkellBasher
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I'm not a fanboi.

Apple's iOS does some things better than Android does. Android does some things better than iOS does. Each side has their pros and cons.

As a user, you should use the software that works for YOU. If you are that displeased with iOS, and feel that Android is superior, you should use it. Frankly, I feel that you undermine your 'Android is superior' argument when you freely admit that you're staying with iOS on the next iteration of the iPhone. iOS is still superior for you if you choose to stay with it given other options.

Android's greatest strength is also it's greatest weakness. Openness. Unless you have a Nexus, you're not getting stock Android. You're getting a modified Android OS full of carrier bloatware and crippled features.

To make full use of Android, you have to root your phone and make changes. No different than jailbreaking, yet Apple is criticized for forcing you to do so to enable certain features. How does that make sense?

There is a subset of the population that likes to use every feature that they can. The vast majority just want it to work. That's where Apple wins, and will continue to win.
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said by SkellBasher:

I'm not a fanboi.

Apple's iOS does some things better than Android does. Android does some things better than iOS does. Each side has their pros and cons.

As a user, you should use the software that works for YOU. If you are that displeased with iOS, and feel that Android is superior, you should use it. Frankly, I feel that you undermine your 'Android is superior' argument when you freely admit that you're staying with iOS on the next iteration of the iPhone. iOS is still superior for you if you choose to stay with it given other options.

Android's greatest strength is also it's greatest weakness. Openness. Unless you have a Nexus, you're not getting stock Android. You're getting a modified Android OS full of carrier bloatware and crippled features.

To make full use of Android, you have to root your phone and make changes. No different than jailbreaking, yet Apple is criticized for forcing you to do so to enable certain features. How does that make sense?

There is a subset of the population that likes to use every feature that they can. The vast majority just want it to work. That's where Apple wins, and will continue to win.

Agreed. As a customer, you have the choice. If Android works for you, go Android. If iOS works for you, go iOS. If WinMo 7 works for you, go WinMo 7. Plain and simple. For me, I'm sticking with iOS, since my company won't support Android or WinMo 7.

Robert
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said by solgae84:

Agreed. As a customer, you have the choice. If Android works for you, go Android. If iOS works for you, go iOS. If WinMo 7 works for you, go WinMo 7. Plain and simple. For me, I'm sticking with iOS, since my company won't support Android or WinMo 7.

Sounds like you don't have a choice, and that if you could, you'd switch too.
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said by solgae84:

Agreed. As a customer, you have the choice. If Android works for you, go Android. If iOS works for you, go iOS. If WinMo 7 works for you, go WinMo 7. Plain and simple. For me, I'm sticking with iOS, since my company won't support Android or WinMo 7.

Sounds like you don't have a choice, and that if you could, you'd switch too.

I always have a choice not to have my company e-mail available to my phone.

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IOS and Android use the same Active Synch API. I don't buy your email excuse.

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I stick with the iPhone because I like the product - and I'm comfortable with it. Which is why I'd would rather see some of these (simple) features brought to the iPhone, instead of me switching. I'm sure Apple prefers the same.

Yes, the iPhone "works" and I have never said it didn't. I'm simply saying that I wished we had a little more customization, which I'm sure the vast majority would agree on.

But the little changes that Apple makes to the iPhone throughout each new release just, IMO, isn't cutting it anymore.

SkellBasher
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As Selenia commented below, customization is a problem on most Android implementations as well. It's not a problem unique to Apple.

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I just don't see leaps and bounds with Android right now that would make me jump from my iPhone. Should they easily find a pleasant way for me to easily play my music on it so I would not have to carry around and iPod I would consider it. While there are tons of Android devices, there isn't to me a major compelling reason to switch.

I also agree that with all the different Android devices comes all the different customizations by carriers and handset makers, so unless you go Nexus S you don't really get a clean Andoid OS.
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I've had an initial 2g (4GB), a 2g/8, a 3g, a 3gs and now an iPhone 4. As crippled by Apple, the iPhone blows goats. After jailbreaking, it is an excellent device to use as a portable computer when I do not want to use my OQO and a moderately crappy phone. Of course, with its external battery case is starts to look more like an OQO or Viliv S5 every day. But the apps for it more than make it worth the effort to put up with the iOS annoyances and limitations.

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the problem is android is open platform which pretty much means anyone can develop and app for it without problem. IPHONE is NOT open platform as Apple has to Approve the app before it is released to the apple store.
Once apple becomes more open platform you will see alot more apps become available than their is today. Plus remember android is still a baby. The first droid only became available 18 months ago.
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I couldn't agree more here. Android is decent, but iOS is where it's at right now. The only reason Android has more 'popularity' is because it's more widely available. WM7, well, WM is a thing of the past. Anyone using their devices is stuck in a no update pattern for years.

Once Apple locks down VZW, they'll start to hunt down other carriers in the U.S. and they'll start to see more and more profit and market share, which is a good thing for a company.

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I couldn't agree more here. Android is decent, but iOS is where it's at right now. The only reason Android has more 'popularity' is because it's more widely available. WM7, well, WM is a thing of the past. Anyone using their devices is stuck in a no update pattern for years.

Once Apple locks down VZW, they'll start to hunt down other carriers in the U.S. and they'll start to see more and more profit and market share, which is a good thing for a company.

I don't believe Apple will see a greater market share with the number of devices, other than what might be temporarily gobbled up from the destruction of RIM. The iPhone will outsell any other single device, but the Android platform will continue to gain a bigger market share. Besides, Apple absolutely does not care as much about market share as they do about profits.

I'm sure the profits will continue to soar for Apple, but their iOS platform will no longer be able to keep up the pace that Android will set. Apple will enjoy a couple of quarters of incredible numbers when they align with a new release, but annually they will fall short to Android from this point on. I'm interested to see how Microsoft fares, as they seem to be listening to consumers. You can never count them out because of their resources.

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Android phones suffer the same limits on customization and app sources unless you root them, with few exceptions(original Droid, Nexus One, etc). Most modern phones are heavily restricted. I just had to root and custom rom my Captivate. The stock was garbage, like most carrier stock roms. This statement comes to you from an Android fan who also likes the truth.

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Only AT&T restricts app sources. »Surprise: AT&T's First Android Isn't Open

My myTouch4G was able to install non-Market apps out of the gate.

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Only AT&T restricts app sources. »Surprise: AT&T's First Android Isn't Open

My myTouch4G was able to install non-Market apps out of the gate.

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Wow, almost a year ago.

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Only AT&T restricts app sources. »Surprise: AT&T's First Android Isn't Open

My myTouch4G was able to install non-Market apps out of the gate.

]

Wow, almost a year ago.

Doesn't mean they haven't stopped the practice.

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Only AT&T restricts app sources. »Surprise: AT&T's First Android Isn't Open

My myTouch4G was able to install non-Market apps out of the gate.

]

Wow, almost a year ago.

Doesn't mean they haven't stopped the practice.

Doesn't mean they have continued as well with devices not even released yet now does it?

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Doesn't mean they have continued as well with devices not even released yet now does it?

Even on their latest android phone (before CES), the Captivate was crippled with the non-Market apps situation.
»hothardware.com/News/ATT ··· ptivate/

HTC Aria, crippled: »venturebeat.com/2010/06/ ··· -market/

I'm betting the non-released phones will be, like in the past.

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Doesn't mean they have continued as well with devices not even released yet now does it?

Even on their latest android phone (before CES), the Captivate was crippled with the non-Market apps situation.
»hothardware.com/News/ATT ··· ptivate/

HTC Aria, crippled: »venturebeat.com/2010/06/ ··· -market/

I'm betting the non-released phones will be, like in the past.

Again, we were talking about upcoming devices. So you can bet, maybe you will be right. Just don't forget to add the T-Mobile plug.

I meant to ask you how do you get the Family Corporate Plan?

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Just show your ID and you get it.

The plan is about 5-6 years old, probably grandfathered/sunsetted by now.

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Which ID?

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Employee.

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Employee.

T-Mobile employee ID or other?

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Too bad T-Mobile's coverage is just awful out this way, EDGE at that. Verizon has complete EVDO coverage anywhere I go pretty much and AT&T has full UMTS coverage in most of this half of the state and all of my county, which translates to being the fastest locally, but not everywhere. I would love to see UMTS and even their HSPA+, as far as T-Mo goes, but have to be realistic. Hard to give up HSUPA, which is not locked down on my Captivate. Faster upload than my DSL Too bad it's T-Mo that seems to have the least restricted phones. At least I can be thankful for an uncriopled phone, thanks to programs that the hacking community has worked so hard on. Other phones have benefitted, as well.

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said by Gbcue:

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Doesn't mean they have continued as well with devices not even released yet now does it?

Even on their latest android phone (before CES), the Captivate was crippled with the non-Market apps situation.
»hothardware.com/News/ATT ··· ptivate/

HTC Aria, crippled: »venturebeat.com/2010/06/ ··· -market/

I'm betting the non-released phones will be, like in the past.

Again, we were talking about upcoming devices. So you can bet, maybe you will be right. Just don't forget to add the T-Mobile plug.

I meant to ask you how do you get the Family Corporate Plan?

Oh, now the iPhone might be crippled?

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When hasn't it been?

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Can I ask why stay with the iPhone when you admit you have to jailbrake just to do a portion of what you can do with Andriod phone out of the box.

I actually just gave up on apple sold my iphone3GS for an android and couldn't be happier.

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90% of iPhone users are completely unaware of the "limitations" that exist on the iPhone--and moreover, if they were informed, wouldn't give a sh*t. It's pretty ignorant to think that every iPhone user is a (power?) user like yourself, and frequents DSLReports.com. Truth be told, the people that visit tech sites like this are a small but vocal percentage of iPhone owners (if they own an iPhone at all), and could care less about geeky ramblings about the inefficacy of "walled gardens" and lack of "cloud storage." The iPhone is a great consumer product and sells extremely well. If you like more control, buy an android and quit complaining. I assure you, no one at apple will care, as you are a minority.

By the way, I'm writing this on my Droid.

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said by gpolk50:

90% of iPhone users are completely unaware of the "limitations" that exist on the iPhone--and moreover, if they were informed, wouldn't give a sh*t. It's pretty ignorant to think that every iPhone user is a (power?) user like yourself, and frequents DSLReports.com. Truth be told, the people that visit tech sites like this are a small but vocal percentage of iPhone owners (if they own an iPhone at all), and could care less about geeky ramblings about the inefficacy of "walled gardens" and lack of "cloud storage." The iPhone is a great consumer product and sells extremely well. If you like more control, buy an android and quit complaining. I assure you, no one at apple will care, as you are a minority.

By the way, I'm writing this on my Droid.

So, most people who read opinions here will be power users like ourselves, so what's wrong with posting from that perspective? If I wanted an opinion from the n00b or laymen perspective, I would read CNET or one of many other mainstream magazines or websites. That said, I have owned both and am happier with Android due to its "power user" features. The iphone was a decent device, but I like having full control. Plus, the faster cpu in my particular phone helps even a little more.
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Posting from the perspective of a power user is fine, I was making the point that we power users are a minority and most people don't care. However, making the generalization that the iPhone will cease selling well because of the superiority of Android as a more customizable option IS a problem, because this opinion comes from the jaded perspective of (only some) power users. Apple's sales figures speak for themself.

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The iPhone for Verizon will go over very well assuming you can actually make calls on it, which is the single largest issue with the AT&T iPhone.

The rest of your post is just anti-Apple spew. Maybe Android fits better with how you want your phone to operate, but the iPhone isn't a failure at all. They've sold MILLIONS of the things all over the world. Android market share is naturally going up because it's available on more than one hardware platform, but it's not cannibalizing iPhone sales at all.

Apple has sold more iPhones since Android was released than they did before. They've moved 74 million units in 4 years.

How is Android leading again?

According to the latest comScore ranking, Apple has 25% market share, Android has 26%.
said by »www.comscore.com/Press_E ··· et_Share :
61.5 million people in the U.S. owned smartphones during the three months ending in November, up 10 percent from the preceding three-month period, as RIM led with 33.5 percent market share of smartphones. After several months of strong growth, Google Android captured the #2 ranking among smartphone platforms in November with 26.0 percent of U.S. smartphone subscribers. Apple accounted for 25.0 percent of smartphone subscribers (up 0.8 percentage points), followed by Microsoft with 9.0 percent and Palm with 3.9 percent.

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Android was released in 2008 and the iPhone was originally released in 2007 so of course they have sold more since the release of Android than before?

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said by Robert:

To summarize: I don't think AT&T will see a large number of iPhone users switching to Verizon because of the network, but rather, them switching because of the phone itself (and going with an Android based phone).

AT&T iPhone customers don't have to go to Verizon to switch to Android. AT&T has plenty of Android phones for sale.
»www.wireless.att.com/cel ··· Manus=on

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I've said it before and here it is again.
Us guys on tech blogs just don't get it, simple is what most people want.
I had an iPhone for 1 1/2 years and then switched to Android and I love it, I don't know how I lived confined in an IOS world.
But for the average user some of the freedom of Android is it's weakness, they don't want to have to figure out which apps kill their battery, they don't want to be able to swap out everything.

They want something simple that just works, those people are in the majority, so when I know someone who isn't technical at all I suggest apple for everyone else android.

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No, we get it. We know Apple's KISS idea, but you can still KISS, but give flexibility.

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Yeah, but it's much harder to code an interface that does KISS, and things like letting the user customize large aspects of the interface naturally conflicts with that.

So that fact that apple tries to KISS explains why their features are behind Android by such a large margin
It also explains why most users would still prefer an iPhone, if it was available on a decent Carrier, rather than a fuller featured Android phone.

That said I anxiously await a day when Google fixes things like battery life issues and at least hides the complexity from users who want things simple and I can recommend android to everyone
But for myself I'm sold, I'm never going back to apple.

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Even though I'm a Verizon Wireless customer...

i'll still never buy an apple product.
I've already turned to the Dark Side by being a VW customer (Black & Red colors with James Earl Jones as the voice from the commercials a few years back).
Having an iPhone on VW would be like becoming a Sith Lord. No thanks.

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Lame

Any smartphone with a capped data plan is at best a potentially expensive toy.

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Android problems: I have 2.1
- problem #1 stuck at 2.1 no updrades yet for my phone.
- htc is more focus at putting out new phones
- Preview of attachments crash. word and pdf
- rearranging icons on the screens is like playing a puzzle game.
You can't move icons arround unless you have a spot for it.
- programs start in the background with no way to stop it. (stocks,weather) ar examples.
- people complain about the way Apple did multitasking. Atleast Apples gives you an easy way to stop programs. On Android you have to go to settings to find how to close. Or download another app to do something that should be built in.

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Verizon iPhone would be great

for everyone!

I don't know why everyone gets so wrapped up in this. This is competition at it's best. The Verizon iPhone will get plenty of users when it makes the switch. What will this do? It will push Android phones to be even better.

Let me mention that I am an iPhone 4 user for AT&T. I had the Samsung Captivate and I loved the Android OS. What I didn't love was the poor battery life and horrible GPS issues with the Captivate. That pushed me to switch back to the iPhone 4.

I really do hope that the iPhone moves over to Verizon sooner rather than later. This will not only push Android phones to continue to improve, but it will also get some AT&T iPhone users off the network thus freeing up some bandwidth for me

Who knows, maybe I'll switch to Verizon at some point. I'm sure they'd be happy to have all 5 of my lines.

MovieLover76
join:2009-09-11
Cherry Hill, NJ

MovieLover76

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Re: Verizon iPhone would be great

The battery life is hard to deal with I admit, but I have a captivate and don't have any gps issues, it locks better than my 3GS did.
was this before or after the update in september?

mad_dash
@sbcglobal.net

mad_dash

Anon

they don't just get it ..

Everyone fails to realize that att (back then cingular) signed a 5 YEAR CONTRACT with apple in 2007 .. Count it .. the exclusivity doesn't end until 2012 ..Att is just increasing the hype so it can sell more apple devices in anticipation of the white model or the new iphone .. perhaps it wants to deplete its inventory of its 3GS ... But as i say ignorance is bliss .. let the idiots thrive in their ignorance as they wait for the verizon fairy deliver their iphones this year .. tsk tsk

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