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join:2002-07-04
Santa Rosa, CA | time to... practice saying no to the new? 6mb internet and laughable tv service. telemarketers love calling me lol | |
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DaMaGeINC
The Lan Man
Premium
join:2002-06-08
Greenville, SC
clubs: | Joy to u all Oh boy, I bet you guys cant wait for 6Mb internet. What a joke. | |
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elios
join:2005-11-15
Springfield, MO | Re: Joy to u all uverse is dead in the water here now that Mediacom just bumped basic to 8/512 and max to 15/1 | |
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Fatal Vector
join:2005-11-26 | Re: Joy to u all
You seem to forget that geeks are in the distinct minority and that not everyone wants or needs 10 Mb. | |
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elios
join:2005-11-15
Springfield, MO | Re: Joy to u all Springfield is a collage town ill bet you a good chunk will want the faster speeds | |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | Re: Joy to u all while that may be true (high speed data for students), many (most) would go for decent prices. I personally go for the best cost/service that I can find. Currently, its DSL Extreme for > $25 for 3Mbps. | |
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swilliams
join:1999-09-07
Mount Prospect, IL
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| "All the pieces are in place" Hmmmm, I remember a former Chicago resident that spoke those very words. Hmmmm, can't quite remember how that turned out for him here in Chicago or Miami for that matter.......
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N3OGH
Bear patrol must be working like a charm
Premium
join:2003-11-11
Philly burbs
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| Re: "All the pieces are in place" Now there's a nose that looks like it's bee in the bottle.
PS. I KNOW people can have rosacea without being heavy drinkers, it's just a funny....
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Paulg
Displaced Yooper
Premium
join:2004-03-15
Neenah, WI
clubs: | It amazes me that he got another coaching job in the NFL.
what an idiot.
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Ima
join:2003-10-23
Little Rock, AR
·AT&T Southwest
| Re: "All the pieces are in place" Can't wait for U-verse. I've had the 6/768 line with SBC for a while.. best bang for the buck imo. If U-verse does indeed launch here in Little Rock this year I'll be pretty happy. Anything's better than Comcast. They're terrible, atleast where I live. | |
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join:2006-02-27
Benton, AR | Re: "All the pieces are in place" Im just thankful they said they are launching out in benton, AR this next summer so we finally get highspeed in our area. ATT has been pulling fiber all over town preping for it. | |
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join:2005-09-01 | Re: "All the pieces are in place" Sucks that we don't have the option of a cable company, stupid comcast only services a very small portion, and charter just sucks. | |
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join:2006-02-27
Benton, AR
| Re: "All the pieces are in place" charter worse than sucks they provide no servies beyond digtal cable. And they had the nerve to show up to the city council meeting to fight ATT spreading to the area with the new services. But they were politely told that they promised all these services over a year ago and still have done nothing so they have nothing to add to the discussion. charter that is. I laugh when i get an ad in the mail from charter advertising three pakages of cable not even enough to qualify for the multi-service freebies that they are giving out for signing up like the resturant gift cards. It's like hey sign up for our sub standard service and get a subscription to entertainment weekly. LOL what ever | |
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join:2005-09-01
| Re: "All the pieces are in place" That's why I said that they suck. They don't offer internet. Where I'm at now (off of river st.), I have a grand total of 1 choice - AT&T. To top it off, according to the diagnostic page on my DSL modem, there's an exposed wire somewhere and the service goes out when it rains. | |
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join:2006-02-27
Benton, AR
| Re: "All the pieces are in place" I live right off of northshore well within the city and no DSL there at all but we did just have a wireless company start up offering service for $250 for the equipment no contract and 384 down 128 up for $40 dollors a month. Really sad to tell the truth. | |
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PolarBear
The bear formerly known as aaron8301
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join:2005-01-03 | Re: "All the pieces are in place" And I thought MY wireless was bad: 600/600, free leased equipment, $40/mo, no contract.
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Alpine
Premium
join:2000-01-11
Atlanta, GA
| Complaining... Seriously - this whole joint whines about the lack of competition and then whines when the competition picks up because it's apparently not up to their standards.
You can't have it both ways. I swear some of you people live to whine...
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Premium
join:2005-04-13
Baton Rouge, LA
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| Re: Complaining... It's the lack of competition which is helping to facilitate such crappy offerings based on stop-gap measures intended only to help maintain the companies bottom line.
We will be re-visiting this issue in a year or so when AT&T reaches the limits of their temporary solution and has to do the very thing that they say they don't need now. FTTH
It should all be very entertaining. 
The fact remains that we only have two main choices for TV and only two main choices for Internet. | |
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Amadeus
Premium
join:2005-05-02
Miami, FL | Re: Complaining... Ditto. Man i hope that meger with bellsouth doesn't go through, these att guys are just stupid. | |
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hiatus | And there are the people who whine about the whining... 
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join:2005-09-21
Bethel Park, PA | Re: Complaining... And yet then there are those who whine about the whiners who whine about the whining.
And THEN...
*Head Explodes* | |
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Alpine
Premium
join:2000-01-11
Atlanta, GA
1 edit | There has to be at least -some- balance around here. It's 98% anti-telco, anti-corporation around here. Getting other viewpoints is important, especially when people like you say "take your [insert opposing viewpoint here] somewhere else."
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Premium
join:2005-04-13
Baton Rouge, LA
·Cox HSI
| Re: Complaining... It's not really about balance. It's really about the fact that a majority of this country would like true broadband and actual options. You are witness to a small microcosm of what is really a major attitude of this country in general about broadband.
For example:
I live in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. In my old and established neighborhood I have 1 option for broadband (Cox) and 2 options for TV (Cox or Satellite service). DSL is not even an option for me. Why is that? I live in a major city in Louisiana and I have exactly 1 choice for broadband.
The solution is two-fold actually.
1. Municipal fiber offerings.
2. Cable/Phone companies either get out of the way of Muni offerings or decide to provide the EXACT same service themselves on THEIR OWN DIME.
I bet if they spent more money on innovations and actually providing services and speeds that people want they would find it to be quite profitable. | |
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Fatal Vector
join:2005-11-26
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Ummm...You mean the majority of the GEEKS who hang here would like what THEY consider "true""broadband and actual options", dont you? Joe and jane Box of rocks, who are the majoroty of the country dont know any better and done really give a shit. | |
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Premium
join:2005-04-13
Baton Rouge, LA
·Cox HSI
| Re: Complaining... said by Fatal Vector  :Ummm...You mean the majority of the GEEKS who hang here would like what THEY consider "true""broadband and actual options", dont you? Joe and jane Box of rocks, who are the majoroty of the country dont know any better and done really give a shit. That group is in the minority and more than likely may not even have had dial-up or even a computer at home.
The MAJORITY of this country is effected by Broadband as it plays a role in the MAJORITY of things we do in direct and in-direct ways. | |
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join:2001-05-17
Glen Carbon, IL
| said by deadzoned :It's not really about balance. It's really about the fact that a majority of this country would like true broadband and actual options. You are witness to a small microcosm of what is really a major attitude of this country in general about broadband. .
blah, blah, blah. gees you don't like the current competition then fund your own startup. I suggest all the whiners on here put their monies where their month is - mortage you homes and fund some alternative. lets see how far you get. | |
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Premium,ExMod 2003-06
join:2001-03-15
hiatus
| Re: Complaining... said by lvas :blah, blah, blah. gees you don't like the current competition then fund your own startup. I suggest all the whiners on here put their monies where their month is - mortage you homes and fund some alternative. lets see how far you get. Yeah, if you knew what you were talking about, you'd realize that such a suggestion is likely to go nowhere because the telcos and MSOs would likely team up and use the courts and lobbying power to stop any new startups.
Reality dictates that getting a new startup just isn't going to happen.
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join:2006-05-14
San Antonio, TX | Re: Complaining... Not true. Grandecom collected a few hundred million in venture capital to start a new telecom company. It can be done. | |
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Premium,ExMod 2003-06
join:2001-03-15
hiatus
| Re: Complaining... said by cwh :Not true. Grandecom collected a few hundred million in venture capital to start a new telecom company. It can be done. They are a CLEC... Are they actually overbuilding in the last mile or are they just selling services over the existing ILECs infrastructure ?
We're talking about a new player coming in and taking on the ILEC where they still hold the monopoly... Infrastructure.
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join:2006-05-14
San Antonio, TX
| Re: Complaining... said by bmn :said by cwh :Not true. Grandecom collected a few hundred million in venture capital to start a new telecom company. It can be done. They are a CLEC... Are they actually overbuilding in the last mile or are they just selling services over the existing ILECs infrastructure ? We're talking about a new player coming in and taking on the ILEC where they still hold the monopoly... Infrastructure. Yes they are a new and they are overbuilding. It can be done, but it does involve a lot of investor risk. | |
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AtlGuy
join:2000-10-17
Marietta, GA | Re: Complaining... "Some" people seem to be experts on giving statistical analysis too.  | |
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drmorley
Premium,MVM
join:2000-12-20
Park Ridge, IL
clubs:
| Full Speed Ahead... I'm pleased to see that they're going full speed ahead with their press releases on their U-Verse products. Instead of launching a relevant product they're just going to double the amount of press releases they lob at us.
Well played...well played...
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kimyA
@avanquestusa.com | Re: Full Speed Ahead... Man I can't wait for that to launch.
This telco guy came by my house and said it should be releasing in my area in the next few months and boy I can't wait. | |
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odreian615
join:2006-01-18
Chicago, IL | This is good cause now the public will see how messed up ATT IPTV and 6mb net service is I just know Comcast is gonna eat this up | |
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icp1
Premium
join:2000-10-13
Saint Louis, MO
clubs: | whiners Yah you whiners!
Even if you hate the product and won't buy it I bet you if it is released in your area your cable prices will see some nice discounts all of a sudden. | |
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dslwanter
Why would I want DSL? I have FTTH
Premium
join:2002-12-16
Lowellville, OH
·Armstrong Zoom In..
·AT&T Midwest
| It doesn't matter The hell with lightspeed, people in my neighborhood are lucky if they can get qualified for the basic package with no cable modem available either. Give us a live RT we don't even know what that's like yet!
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Fatal Vector
join:2005-11-26
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It stands to reason that AT&T is going to provide future HSI service on it's new network. In which case, it would be kinda dumb to provision more CO's for DSL, dont you think?
Once they get their new network in, all they need to do is run coaxial cable the last mile (like cable does) to have just as capable network as cable does.
Then, a few years down the road, they can put in fiber as needed, since they will not need extreme bandwidth capability in all parts of their network, such as BFE small towns. | |
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dslwanter
Why would I want DSL? I have FTTH
Premium
join:2002-12-16
Lowellville, OH
·Armstrong Zoom In..
·AT&T Midwest
| Re: It doesn't matter said by Fatal Vector :In which case, it would be kinda dumb to provision more CO's for DSL, dont you think? The problem isn't CO's being lit. The problem is there are still many outlying areas with POTS RTs that can't get DSL yet when all they have to do is implement ADSL cards.
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join:2004-03-19
Here
| Re: It doesn't matter 'The problem is there are still many outlying areas with POTS RTs that can't get DSL yet when all they have to do is implement ADSL cards.'
It'smoreinvolved than that. Bandwidth doesn't appear from nowhere. You need T-1s first of all. Second only SLC series 5 can be upconverted straight from POTS to ADSL. SLC96, DISCS, Litespan, starspan, etc AFAIK don't have a simple card swap solution. | |
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fiber3
@usfca.edu | time will tell ... gimmie fiber | |
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ftthz
If love can kill hate can also save
join:2005-10-17 | when i see it i'll believe it enough said | |
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jdir
join:2001-05-04
Santa Clara, CA | Wait until Someone complaints their TV doesnt seems to stream smoothly when the network is overlad at 8pm. | |
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Fatal Vector
join:2005-11-26
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Someone complaints their TV doesnt seems to stream smoothly when the network is overlad at 8pm."
Doesn't that very same thing happen with comcast where the picture freezes as well as the sound, or, gets all pixelated? It does here just on my analog cable. Maybe cable isn't the shiznit everyone thinks it is? | |
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tmc8080
join:2004-04-24
Floral Park, NY
| santa's magical dsl sleigh don't worry... at&t has a deal with santa to string the xdsl equipment across everyone's chimney by christmas on his way back from delivering a fake fcc vote for a business merger (and delivering presents to all the little corrupt politican boys and girls) one last gasp for the republican congress.. enron style dsl/iptv | |
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