AT&T Increasing DSL Prices All tiers for new users seeing hikes in March Tipped by KrK 
Back in January, we leaked word that AT&T would be starting 2010 off with a suite of rate hikes for both their regular DSL and U-Verse VDSL customers. Users write in to tell us they're now officially getting the announcement from AT&T that starting with their March bill, the monthly rate for their Express (1.5 Mbps), Pro (3 Mbps) or Elite (6 Mbps) plans will be increased $3 per month. Right now AT&T is offering all three tiers for twelve months at $25, after which the prices revert to $33, $38, or $43, respectively. Note these price increases only impact new customers or customers whose contracts are expiring. "We're adjusting our pricing for AT&T High Speed Internet service in an effort to better align our pricing structure across our entire service territory, and to better reflect the value of our broadband service," says AT&T to subscribers. "But don't worry, even with this adjustment, our pricing is still competitive across the industry." AT&T's definition of competitive is tepid at best. It's precisely a lack of competition in most of their markets that allows a carrier like AT&T to raise prices during a sour economy, at the same time that bandwidth and DSL hardware continues to get cheaper. AT&T's busily also "competing" on the U-Verse front, where they've raised the price on the service's lowest three tiers by about $5, while lowering the price on their Max (up to 12 Mbps) and Max Plus (up to 18 Mbps) tiers by $10. AT&T tells Broadband Reports the move reflects "the greater demand and interest we're seeing for higher bandwidth packages among our U-verse customers." Of course it also nudges users on cheaper plans toward more expensive ones.
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 ptrowskiGot Helix?Premium join:2005-03-14 Putnam, CT kudos:4 | Higher price = better value? I would love to see the equation as to how they came up with that idea. Speeds the same, you pay more so now you have a better value? | |
|  |  2 edits | Re: Higher price = better value? I agree. How in the heck is "paying more for the same junk" equal to "a better value?"
I guess milking as much from your customers as you can without improving service is called "capitalism." | |
|  |  |  fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium join:2005-05-20 kudos:3 | Re: Higher price = better value? I agree on the "better value" statement... but, um... I think you're WAY off line on the "milking" part... at&t DLS is priced much cheaper than cable internet service already..
But, anytime there is a price increase, and there ARE going to be price increases over time, it's not "milking" their customers... you don't think at&t is seeing higher costs in their own vendors as well? Buck up.. price increases are a fact of life. Price increases do come with out "improving services" quite often,.... doesn't make them wrong. | |
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| Re: Higher price = better value? Well, this price increase was not accompanied by improving services, and prices just went up about 16% if you had the 1.5 Mbps U-Verse tier.
That said, AT&T has reduced the pricing on its top-end packages so that people would actually buy their 24/3 tier. This is a good thing.
Still, for the lower tiers, they're just trying to drive ARPU up without actually doing anything. Guess Clear WiMAX needs to step up their act and knock some sense into AT&T. | |
|  |  |  |  1 edit | Being that it has been shown multiple times that the cost of running these networks gets cheaper, not more expensive over time, I think it is safe to say your argument holds no water. | |
|  |  |  |  |  fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium join:2005-05-20 kudos:3 | Re: Higher price = better value? My "argument" definitely holds water... don't kid yourself to think you know how business runs.
The price of gas - gone up. The price of health insurance, gone up. The wages to employees, gone up. Shall I continue?
The subscriber base to POTS service.. gone down.. (meaning they've lost revenue there) Oh know.. !!! what happens when one revenue stream goes down... and is being pushed to the side by another product? .. that product goes ... um.. up!
Just becuase "the cost of running DSL gets cheaper" doesn't mean that the price of DSL will always fall. The DSL price was WAY under-priced years ago and on some tiers they lost money.
They don't always price one product based on the cost to operate that said product.. they price it on several factors.. in this case, I'm guessing that over all cost of business is rising, which is true (and holds water) ... they are seeing a decline in other products offered, which is true (and holds water) ... and the market will allow for a $3 price increase based on what Cable is selling modem services for, which is true (and holds water)...
...again, shall I go on?
Where do you guys always think that you take JUST DSL, or any product, factor out the cost of that one product, and price it as such? at&t is a business in its entirety.. Why do you think Cable will discount HSI to their video subscribers and not just charge $10 more for HSI all together? .. it's becuase they factor in what they need PER SUBSCRIBER in order to survive, and yes, they also base it on the products subscribed to.
This argument of yours is just as silly as the guy , here, the other day that said an iPhone should only cost $200 to the customer becuase some website did a cost analysis (a very weak one I might add) on the COST on the parts, alone,.. and that they should sell the phone for that amount alone.
If you've never run a business of any size before, and ebay don't count, then it's only going to show in your postings and the way you think.
My argument MOST CERTAINLY DOES hold water.
Price increases don't always HAVE to be based on if "the customer gets more"... | |
|  |  |  |  |  |  | | Re: Higher price = better value? said by fiberguy:My "argument" definitely holds water... don't kid yourself to think you know how business runs. So you're the only one entitled to that delusion? Really...
said by fiberguy:The price of gas - gone up. The price of health insurance, gone up. The wages to employees, gone up. Shall I continue? Two perfect examples of oligarchic/cartel pricing models, and one glaring error; i.e., real wages have fallen even for union workers, which American industry in general, and AT&T in particular, are trying to shed as quickly as possible.
said by fiberguy:The subscriber base to POTS service.. gone down.. (meaning they've lost revenue there) Oh know.. !!! what happens when one revenue stream goes down... and is being pushed to the side by another product? .. that product goes ... um.. up! The cost of POTS service has nearly doubled in my area due to the double whammy of the removal of POTS from tariff rate constraints by the CPUC at the behest of AT&T because of so-called "competitive market" conditions caused principally by the failure of AT&T and other Baby Bells to compete, and the desire to push subscribers into much more profitable, and less infrastructure intensive, wireless services. As you note, Cable HSI is more expensive than Telco ADSL, so the Telcos are raising prices to leave less money "on-the-table", NOT to invest in improved service. AT&T has not spent a nickle on infrastructure in my neighborhood in over thirty years. While my service has deteriorated significantly over time, the price has gone nowhere but up.
said by fiberguy:Just becuase "the cost of running DSL gets cheaper" doesn't mean that the price of DSL will always fall. The DSL price was WAY under-priced years ago and on some tiers they lost money. AT&T never lost money on ADSL, period.
said by fiberguy:They don't always price one product based on the cost to operate that said product.. they price it on several factors.. in this case, I'm guessing that over all cost of business is rising, which is true (and holds water) ... they are seeing a decline in other products offered, which is true (and holds water) ... and the market will allow for a $3 price increase based on what Cable is selling modem services for, which is true (and holds water)... ...again, shall I go on? Why bother? We've already heard the spurious arguments of AT&T, and have taken note of the unjustified, but inevitable, climb in prices due not to competition, but rather the lack of same, coupled with AT&T's desire to abandon POTS and provide last generation DSL services over their existing copper infrastructure rather than invest in new technology. Maybe, they're waiting for a technological miracle to rescue their aging copper with little to no investment on their part. A quick look at the Mb/buck comparison of 12Mbps to 100Mbps speed of Cableco HSI versus AT&T's lowly DSL offerings is clarifying.
said by fiberguy:Where do you guys always think that you take JUST DSL, or any product, factor out the cost of that one product, and price it as such? at&t is a business in its entirety.. Why do you think Cable will discount HSI to their video subscribers and not just charge $10 more for HSI all together? .. it's becuase they factor in what they need PER SUBSCRIBER in order to survive, and yes, they also base it on the products subscribed to. I agree, AT&T is no different than Cable in pricing its services for what the non-competitive market will bear with one caveat; Cable is re-investing in improving its services well beyond what AT&T has planned for its subscribers. Uverse is an over-priced, obsolescent joke by comparison. Verizon has invested heavily in competitive infrastructure and single-handedly forced the Cablecos to migrate to DOCSIS 3. Win/win for consumers. Then, there's AT&T...
said by fiberguy:This argument of yours is just as silly as the guy , here, the other day that said an iPhone should only cost $200 to the customer becuase some website did a cost analysis (a very weak one I might add) on the COST on the parts, alone,.. and that they should sell the phone for that amount alone. You're right, he must have forgotten to add AT&T's commission when he referenced the wireless industry practice of selling phones at or below cost with a two-year contract, and AT&T's exclusive marketing agreement with Apple. Here is a comparison of the total cost of ownership of three such phones. Note the subsidized cost of the iPhone...
said by fiberguy:If you've never run a business of any size before, and ebay don't count, then it's only going to show in your postings and the way you think. Consumers have a right to expect price increases to reflect some proportionate increase in capability and/or quality of services provided.
said by fiberguy:My argument MOST CERTAINLY DOES hold water. It sure does; much like a boat with a HOLE in it.
said by fiberguy:Price increases don't always HAVE to be based on if "the customer gets more"... Ahh, the Telco mantra... | |
|  |  |  |  |  |  | | Ross already countered all your other stupid arguments well so I won't rehash it with you.
However, the "other guy" concerning the iPhone was me and I NEVER said it should cost what they pay and restated that more than once when you would not get off of that. No wonder your arguments are so poor, you have a bad/selective memory and refuse to see any view other than your own. | |
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| said by fiberguy:I agree on the "better value" statement... but, um... I think you're WAY off line on the "milking" part... at&t DLS is priced much cheaper than cable internet service already.. It depends.
AT&T DSL Elite (up to 6.0 down/640k up) Direct (No POTS) is now $43.00 a month. Cox HSI 12.0 down/1.0 up no bundle (just Internet) = $44.95 a month.
So, yeah, it's $1.95 cheaper. And half as fast. Value? You decide. -- "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini
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2 edits | quote: ...the monthly rate for their Express (1.5 Mbps), Pro (3 Mbps) or Elite (6 Mbps) plans will be... $33, $38, or $43, respectively.
Wow.
In AT&T's dictionary, Professional speed is a whopping 3 Mbps. The primo "Elite" plan smokes past in the blink of an eye at 6 Mbps.
Man, those speeds are soooo 2005. Who do they think they're fooling with those glossy names? Why not call them what they really are. The Snail, Inchworm, and Tortoise plans.
I can't tell you how thrilled I am NOT to be an AT&T customer, and thankful those scumbags aren't even an option in this market. To those of you saddled with this miscreant of corporate society, you have my condolences. | |
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Especially since bundled services suck or are being taken offline. e-mail services suck, personal home pages are a freakin' joke ... usenet is gone entirely.
at&t can eat my shorts! I'd see some value then | |
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| said by ptrowski:I would love to see the equation as to how they came up with that idea. Speeds the same, you pay more so now you have a better value? Probably because they have to pay for ESPN360 and other website special carriage that they agreed to in the past. -- »www.Warpstock.org
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| Re: Higher price = better value? said by SSidlov:said by ptrowski:I would love to see the equation as to how they came up with that idea. Speeds the same, you pay more so now you have a better value? Probably because they have to pay for ESPN360 and other website special carriage that they agreed to in the past. You would think that if that was the case they would want to highlight that -- "So, Lone Starr, now you see that evil will always triumph because good is dumb."
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 |  en102Canadian, eh? join:2001-01-26 Valencia, CA | said by ptrowski:I would love to see the equation as to how they came up with that idea. Speeds the same, you pay more so now you have a better value? You mean better value for AT&T. As speed is quickly becoming irrelevant for the 'average' user on broadband, the only way to make more profit is by performing one or more of the following:
1. Raise rates (traditional model) 2. Cap capacity (pay more, in general for those that use it) 3. Bundle (absorb cost, carrier makes more in general) 4. Ad/spyware/bloatware marketing/reselling (being done anyways) 5. Pushing more content and calling it 'value' - whether you want it or not. -- Canada = Hollywood North | |
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| said by ptrowski:I would love to see the equation as to how they came up with that idea. Speeds the same, you pay more so now you have a better value? Something to do with stockholder equity.... -- PRescott7-2097 | |
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 pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium join:2002-05-02 Mount Airy, MD | Sucks Indeed Contrast this to Comcast, which keeps the Internet price the same while raising speeds. -- "Net Neutrality" zealots - the people you can thank for your capped Internet service. | |
|  |  | | Re: Sucks Indeed Well AT&T cant raise speeds, so i guess they decided to raise the prices instead. | |
|  |  |  |  |  tiger72SexaT duorPPremium join:2001-03-28 Saint Louis, MO kudos:1 Reviews:
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| Re: Sucks Indeed said by Jim Gurd:said by pnh102:Contrast this to Comcast, which keeps the Internet price the same while raising speeds. Yes but they keep raising the price of their TV service and charge you an extra $15 for internet if you don't have it. That's why I dropped them for AT&T. Now I have OTA TV for free and 6Mb DSL for $35 per month. you and me both! Did the same thing after I bought a tv tuner for my Media Center PC. Stream tversity (with hulu and netflix) and recorded tv shows to my xbox 360.
I haven't looked back since. -- "What makes us omniscient? Have we a record of omniscience? ...If we can't persuade nations with comparable values of the merit of our cause, we'd better reexamine our reasoning." -United States Secretary of Defense (1961-1968) Robert S. McNamara | |
|  |  |  brianPremium join:2002-05-02 Lake Forest, CA | said by Jim Gurd:Now I have OTA TV for free and 6Mb DSL for $35 per month. me too. | |
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 |  we4 @comcast.net | hsi price and cdv price remains the same. if only they would to that with there tv service instead of raising it ever year. | |
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|  |  dvd536as Mr. Pink as they comePremium join:2001-04-27 Phoenix, AZ kudos:4 | said by pnh102:Contrast this to Comcast, which keeps the Internet price the same while raising speeds. Because their VIDEO subs subsidize affordable hsi. -- When I gez aju zavateh na nalechoo more new yonooz tonigh molinigh - Ken Lee | |
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 andyrossPremium,MVM join:2003-05-04 Schaumburg, IL | ?? I have DSL as a backup to my Comcast cable (I work from home.) It's the Express speed (fastest I can get due to distance, and it's Interleaved, too), and has been $25 since they raised it from $19 a years or two ago. I'm not on a contract or special plan and have had it for about 4 years. | |
|  | | Screw you, Death Star ATT, go to hell. I'll just go get an intro rate from the crappy cable company. | |
|  |  FBGuyyippee ki yayPremium join:2005-03-19 | Re: Screw you, Death Star i wish that was an option with comcast where i live. all they would give me is regular rates. all the special deals here go to existing customers only. -- sbcglobal.net speedtest result 11/11/09 - 5256kbps | |
|  |  fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium join:2005-05-20 kudos:3 | said by Maybelline :
ATT, go to hell. I'll just go get an intro rate from the crappy cable company. You guys make me sick, or laugh, I'm not sure. 
NOW that at&t raises the rate by $3.00 on what really is an under priced service as it is... NOW all the sudden that 'crappy cable company" is going to be who you run to? So what happens when your intro-rate expires? Who you going to run to when the "crappy cable company" raises your rates to the normal price? ..."the crappy phone company"...?
If you stop playing the games, pick a provider and stay with them for what works for you, it will stop the insane game the two providers play against each other taking their entire customer base with them. Too many of these "intro rates" or "new customer promotion" prices only keep rates up for everyone else when people keep signing up and leaving.. signing up and leaving..
But like I said, I'll be here looking for your "the cable company can go to hell" post when your promo rate runs out. | |
|  |  |  iansltx join:2007-02-19 Golden, CO kudos:2 | Re: Screw you, Death Star DSL is not underpriced. Cable might be overpriced though... | |
|  |  |  | | quote: NOW that at&t raises the rate by $3.00 on what really is an under priced service as it is
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
Are you a comedian? | |
|  |  |  |  fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium join:2005-05-20 kudos:3 | Re: Screw you, Death Star said by Metatron2008: quote: NOW that at&t raises the rate by $3.00 on what really is an under priced service as it is
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! Are you a comedian? Ummm.. when the CEO of SBC publicly stated they dropped their prices just to gain customers away from cable, and they knew their lowest tier was under priced, I'd say that my statement stands. You think $12.99 for a 1.5 line was priced properly? maybe as a consumer, but in business, it was a loss - att/sbc knew that.. they did that to gain dial up customers, they did that to attract cable customers away, and they did that becuase they knew that uverse was coming and "marketing to an existing customer is easier than marketing to a new customer"... if you are to google some of Ed Whitacre's articles form a few years ago, you'd see his own quotes.
DSL is going up for various reasons, and when they dropped the price that low, it was bound to, well, rebound back to somewhere sustainable to the company.
No, I'm not a comedian.. I'm just someone that things in the real world of reality. | |
|  |  |  |  |  KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium join:2000-01-17 Tulsa, OK | Re: Screw you, Death Star It's never really been that cheap. | |
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| said by fiberguy:said by Maybelline :
ATT, go to hell. I'll just go get an intro rate from the crappy cable company. You guys make me sick, or laugh, I'm not sure.  NOW that at&t raises the rate by $3.00 on what really is an under priced service as it is... NOW all the sudden that 'crappy cable company" is going to be who you run to? So what happens when your intro-rate expires? Who you going to run to when the "crappy cable company" raises your rates to the normal price? ..."the crappy phone company"...? If you stop playing the games, pick a provider and stay with them for what works for you, it will stop the insane game the two providers play against each other taking their entire customer base with them. Too many of these "intro rates" or "new customer promotion" prices only keep rates up for everyone else when people keep signing up and leaving.. signing up and leaving.. But like I said, I'll be here looking for your "the cable company can go to hell" post when your promo rate runs out. You wont see that from me but I'd love to jump on to the go to hell AT&T bandwagon. Lets see... I pay for a 6 meg connection. I get, on a good day, 3 meg and thats when it works which is only about 3 days a week. And now they want me to pay more for a connection that doesn't work about 60-70% of the time. Yah, go to hell AT&T. -- Does Microsoft mean small and squishy? | |
|  |  |  |  fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium join:2005-05-20 kudos:3 | Re: Screw you, Death Star So, then call at&t and have them fix your problem, OR, downgrade your service to the 3meg tier...
If you haven't called at&t to have them fix it, you can't complain. So have you? and if you have, and they're not fixing the problem, do you have another provider to go to?
I've had issues with at&t (pacbell) where speeds were horrible. In one case, they over sold based on the cable foot distance so they downgraded the service which was acceptable. In the other case, it took some time and effort on my part to get them to escalate the issue, and their part to get the problem tracked down and they were able to correct the problem. I was credited for the time, starting when I reported it, until the time it was corrected.
I, for one, wouldn't pay for a service that doesn't work - period. | |
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| I've been paying $39.00 for "up to" 6.0 mbps down/640k up DSL. No POTS. I don't consider it "under priced." Now that it's going up more I don't consider it "better value" either. -- "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini
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|  |  |  |  | | Re: Screw you, Death Star I am up to about 81.00 a month for 1.5/384 DSL line and the phone service. That's as good as it gets for DSL in my geography. The only saving grace is that it has been stable enough for me to keep my job was a teleworker. I have a choice of either AT&T DSL or a host of other DSL providers all charging about 40.00 a month for 1.5/384. Then they continue to layer onto that charge various non- govt fees so that a quoted 65.00 a month service is now 81.00 and climbing. My alternative is to go with cable which is a bit more but the advertised performance is 10 times that of DSL. I'm almost willing to pay an additional 20.00 a month to get Internet service that approaches 10mb/sec sustained. No AT&T is milking all teh revenue they can out of the aged copper infrastructure while all the time crying poor! I deal with AT&T on a business level and believe me they are NOT poor by a long shot. They just want you to think they are! | |
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 Romney2012Defeat Obama 2012-Chg we can believe inPremium join:2002-03-03 USA kudos:4 | AT&T does have competition in most markets
It's precisely a lack of competition in most of their markets In most of their markets they have cable competition offering faster speeds at equivalent prices. | |
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 |  1 edit | Jeez, just call them and complain You all get rowdy about any type of price increase...How many of the responders actually have UVERSE service? I just called them to inquire about this little price increase and they just renewed me for a year at the same price. It's UVERSE or craptastic cable service... | |
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 TigerNutzLaissez les bons temps roulerPremium join:2000-12-23 Little Rock, AR | Monopoly The feds need to break up AT&T (again).  | |
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 gigahurtzPremium join:2001-10-20 Palm Coast, FL | Cable > DSL It's moments like this that make me realize how happy I am to be bundle with the cable company. While most have problems with their local cable company, I have to say I am very pleased with the service I receive. | |
|  excelx join:2004-07-06 Los Angeles, CA | what the... man.... i have been stuck with 1.5mbps since 2001.... I live in los angeles and there isn't a way to upgrade to 3/6mbps in this area! they need to give us faster speeds not more headaches! sob! | |
|  JasonU join:2006-01-06 Memphis, TN | What about regular old phone service? I just rechecked the AT&T bill I got a couple days ago, and while it doesn't mention a DSL rate change beginning in March, it does mention a $2 increase on our local phone service. | |
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|  OlegBellsouth FastaccessPremium join:2003-12-08 Birmingham, AL | Current customers
It says "these price increases only impact new customers or customers whose contracts are expiring." so current customers will not be affected by this change? | |
|  |  KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium join:2000-01-17 Tulsa, OK Reviews:
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| Re: Current customers I am an existing customer, and I'm not on a contract. My bill says "Attention AT&T Internet Members, effective March 2010 DSL rate plans will be increasing by $3.00 (or $3.01) per month."
It doesn't say anything about for new customers, or customers with expiring contracts, etc
It just says "It's going up." Period. -- "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini
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|  |  |  OlegBellsouth FastaccessPremium join:2003-12-08 Birmingham, AL | Re: Current customers So what do they mean by "these price increases only impact new customers"? Maybe i am missing something here. | |
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1 edit | I'll drop POTS, Wireless and DSL I've been working on moving since November '09. Problems like one was a scam broker; they didn't own the condo they were trying to sell me and others various title issues. Was just informed yesterday everything is now approved and good for my new place. Moving the 15th when we execute the contract. When I move; I would have moved pots, DSL and kept my wireless.
I will not pay any increase, I will drop all three and replace the wireless and ISP with other providers. Contemplating just doing w/o pots anyhow. -- DLink DIR-655 (a3) fw1.33NA / DAP-1522 (a1) fw 1.21 {1 5ghz ap/1 bridge mode} / Siemens SpeedStream 4100 | |
|  | | The increase is higher than $3 for some The bill I recently received indicates that the Internet pricing will increase by $5 starting with the next bill. | |
|  |  BabyBearKeep wise ...with Nite-Owl join:2007-01-11 | Re: The increase is higher than $3 for some Yeah that's what I was told too. Recently was speaking with a rep. on the phone trollin' for deals. Was told April 1 is when my 6mb connection goes from $35 to $40 a mo. At the time was undecided on taking the Elite for $19.95 for 6 mos. deal as I wondered if AT&T cap/overage trials where over(getting ready for wider deployment) or dropped. | |
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|  ilikemeI live in a van down by the river.Premium join:2002-08-27 Denton, TX kudos:1 | call and get locked in at $25 for a year with elite I just called in and got my parents elite connection dropped from $35 to $25 with a one year guarantee and no contract. | |
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| DSL is dinosaur It was ok during the year 2000 to 2005 but in this modern era its like dialup when compared with higher offering of 20mb 50mb 100mb in more advance country such as japan, sweden, south korea. at 20mbps for 70.00 a month i think its a ripoff but many of you would love that even at 5mb for 39.99 or 10mb for 53.99 you would quickly switch from comcast and att inferior offering of asymmetric ancient protocol. this is 5/5, 10/10, up and down the same no 10/1 bs or 20/2 crap att,comcast, roadrunner are a monopoly and will do any to stifle competition. this mean that they will want to keep old technology for profits and to keep us from having anything faster because of 1Greed 2Control 3profiting off obsolete technology that's all these company cares about.
 many people did not care about faster bandwidth so as long as they have a connection that is fast enough to look at web pages and youtube they don't notice how bad the internet service from these monopolized company are. its what we as a comsumer want so speak with your wallet this can really force them to offer faster speed and you will pay the same. i was paying 45 a month for DSL from ATT at the advertised speed of 6mb/768k but speedtest is much lower say 4.8mb/645kbps i could have gone with 39.99 for 5/5mbit but i wanted more speed so i pay a little more. no big deal. no matter what speed i get it always better even 1mbit/1mbit for 29.99 is closer to a T1 then 6m/768K that is closer to 512k/512k the 1mbit is actually 1.5mbps/1.5mbps there is plan to upgrade to 10,15,and25mbps in 2010 for kansas area from 5m,10m,15 and 1mb to 3mb  maybe a decrease in price for 50mbit to say 139.99 but still too expensive for most of us.
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|  macmousePremium join:2002-05-30 Saratoga, CA | Inflation I am certainly not fan of them increasing the prices for their service but if you take into account the rate of inflation, it is hard to argue with what they are asking for as being all that unreasonable by itself.
They are not really gaining much more "real" value than what they were gaining a few years ago and more increasing the nominal amount to bring the values to about the same.
The rate of inflation in the US has been around 2.5% for the last few years (»forecasts.org/inflation.htm) which is pretty damn low by comparison to most economies.
Using the calculator from here (»data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/cpicalc.pl), you can calculate the change of the rat of inflation using the Consumer Price Index , which tends to be more accurate than raw inflation rates (but also has it's own can of worms in other ways).
I'm afraid I don't remember the last time they raised the rates, but I will guess 2005. Perhaps a little longer than it actually has been, but I don't think all that unreasonable looking that far back before a lot of the crazy promotions that had been the rage for a while. Remember, trying to look at the "big picture" here. According to this page (»news.zdnet.com/2100-1035_22-146013.html), Its "Pro" 3MB dynamic DSL package was ~$35/month. [Be careful - all but one of the numbers appear to be for Business packages].
Using the Said CPI Inflation calculator, $35 in 2005 has the same buying power as $38.83 in 2010. $38-35=$3. This $38 happens to be the exact same price they are asking for that tier service in today's article.
I encourage you to do these calculations yourself, using whatever publicly available numbers you can find and add to the discussion.
So it is *extremely* unlikely there is much of a legal stance on this data alone.
Now the "end of the day" numbers that include all the fee's and whatnot, could be a very different matter.
Maybe we should make a group/forum dedicated to tracking ISP and telecom prices?
We should make up a on-line poll kind of thing, and have people post the bottom line #'s from their bills on a monthly basis and be able to track large trends, especially when it comes to the various "usage fee's" that are added on but not accounted for on publicly available documentation. Once some real numbers are being collected, we start building some tools and evidence that we can use to hopefully bring about change. | |
|  |  |  |  |  khc987 join:2001-08-22 Jacksonville, FL | Re: Inflation said by ArgMeMatey:I am calculating a 60% increase in my out-of-pocket costs since late 2006. Here's how: I looked at my bill from 28 Feb 2006. It was $33.20 for stripped down POTS and 1.5/384 DSL. 28 Sep 2006, I had upgraded to 3.0/512 DSL, same POTS, and it was $37.67. Yes, I had service discounts for most of the 00s. Yes, those are gone now, but it's still more money out of my pocket. 28 Feb 2010, 3.0/512 and same POTS, I will pay $54.86. My 28 Feb bill included statements that my POTS line rate was going from $15.75 to $18, and my DSL is going up $3.01. That's an extra $2.25 + $3.01 = $5.26 per month. So the April bill should be right around $60. Therefore over three years my AT&T expense will have gone from $37.67 to $60. $37.67*1.60 = $60. ... they also removed news groups, pawned off the email & home page to Yahoo thus reducing operating cost , and placing video ads with the content on thier web pages thus generating cash flow to gives us value and keep customers cost low.. but all they do is stuff their pockets | |
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 DavidNow accepting new patientsPremium,VIP join:2002-05-30 Granite City, IL kudos:70 | If you have problems with Uverse or DSL Me and matt are only a click away in the direct forum.
Something to think about of course. | |
|  |  KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium join:2000-01-17 Tulsa, OK Reviews:
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| Re: If you have problems with Uverse or DSL said by David:Me and matt are only a click away in the direct forum. Something to think about of course. Can you fix the price  -- "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini
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