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join:2006-01-28
Cedar Park, TX | iPhone Does this include the iPhone? | |
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Karl Bode
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join:2000-03-02 | Re: iPhone No. | |
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join:2006-01-28
Cedar Park, TX | Re: iPhone Whew, I was about to blow a gasket. My wife totally loves her iPhone and there's no way in hell I'd pay another $40 for her dataplan. | |
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join:2001-02-08 | said by Karl Bode  :No. Good Article Karl. | |
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join:2006-01-28
Cedar Park, TX
1 edit | The article says GoPhones. This news posting is misleading or I speed read to quickly or it was later edited. | |
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join:2008-12-13
Montevallo, AL
| Re: iPhone "The article says GoPhones. This news posting is misleading or I speed read to quickly or it was later edited"
Actually its not that misleading, they (at&t) recently changed their data plans, if you check their website for example and look for a prepaid data plan for blackberry......you wont find one....a month ago, you would have. | |
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ninjatutle
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join:2006-01-02
San Ramon, CA
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1 edit | Sketchy It was sketchy to start with. I remember the article and tutorial showing you how to tether go-phone 3G data + laptop for only $20/month. I thought about going this route since I pay $60/mo for a 3G laptop card. It was a work around and the people knew they were doing some sketch stuff. | |
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ninjatutle
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join:2006-01-02
San Ramon, CA | Re: Sketchy It was sketch because tethering was not apart of the terms. I looked into it at the time and figured it would be shut down at any time so I didn't pay the early term to do this. I would have ended up with more money in my pocket each month. | |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | Re: Sketchy Exactly. It wasn't part of the terms mentioned as acceptable OR prohibited. Since it wasn't mentioned at all, one would assume that it is ok.
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ninjatutle
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San Ramon, CA | Re: Sketchy Who says it wasn't prohibited? | |
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ptrowski
Got Helix?
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clubs: | Re: Sketchy said by ninjatutle :Who says it wasn't prohibited? Who said it was? | |
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San Ramon, CA | Re: Sketchy Who says it wasn't? | |
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join:2001-02-16
Tulsa, OK
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| Re: Sketchy said by ptrowski :Plus knowing AT&T, if it was strictly prohibited they would sock people with charges instead of just change the plan. You can only know them by their written policies, which don't allow for any penalty for misuse of a data plan except removal of that plan. They can't add a different plan or add a different feature (like pay-per-use data) and remain within their written policies.
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join:2006-01-28
Cedar Park, TX | Please stop feeding the troll. | |
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join:2005-02-11
Davie, FL | Re: Sketchy Please stop calling people stupid names when you don't agree with their opinions. People who throw around the word "troll" are worse than the ones they're accusing. | |
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tapeloop
1959. I try to kick the ball. I miss.
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Maccawolf
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join:2001-02-20
Hillsdale, NJ
| said by en102 :Exactly. It wasn't part of the terms mentioned as acceptable OR prohibited. Since it wasn't mentioned at all, one would assume that it is ok. while I personally agree with you, the law is
"ignorance is no excuse of the law"
BTW, you know what happens when you ASSUME, don't you?
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tapeloop
1959. I try to kick the ball. I miss.
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| Re: Sketchy said by fancydancer :said by Maccawolf :while I personally agree with you, the law is "ignorance is no excuse of the law" I agree with your quote, but if ATT omitted to say it was allowed or prohibited, then it is not a "law" True. And even if it were explicitly stated, it would be a "Term of Service," not a law. But I'm splitting hairs. | |
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ptrowski
Got Helix?
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join:2005-03-14
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clubs: | Re: Sketchy I tried to search about what the terms were, but there is no way to tell if the terms were changed or not. | |
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join:2001-02-16
Tulsa, OK
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| Re: Sketchy said by ptrowski :I tried to search about what the terms were, but there is no way to tell if the terms were changed or not. at&t is one of the few who has the policy of notification before any change in terms. If they don't notify you, your terms didn't change, even if new signups have different terms under which they get service.
Contrast this with Sprint, who not only doesn't require notification, only posting on their website, but if you use the phone after they post the new terms on the website, you've accepted whatever they decided to put in there without telling you.
On the bright side with them, at least the terms are easier to find. You're not stuck digging through your closet looking for the contract you signed.
One thing that does annoy me about at&t is that they don't have a policy of sending you a paper copy of the terms under which a particular feature operates when you sign up over the phone. You do in store (on the rare occasion that reps actually give you all the paperwork they're supposed to), but on the phone, you're pretty much out of luck unless you think to ask, and even then I don't know that they can mail you a copy.
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
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| Related to Old MediaNet Plans? I had a similar MediaNet plan from 2003 which had "unlimited" data for $15 a month. The same plan was recently capped at 5MB a month. Not only did I promptly drop it, but I also changed the data connection settings on my phone so I don't "accidentally" use data anymore.
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join:2001-02-14
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| Re: Related to Old MediaNet Plans? said by pnh102 :I had a similar MediaNet plan from 2003 which had "unlimited" data for $15 a month. The same plan was recently capped at 5MB a month. Not only did I promptly drop it, but I also changed the data connection settings on my phone so I don't "accidentally" use data anymore. I still have the same plan and it's not capped at all.
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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| Re: Related to Old MediaNet Plans? said by kamm :I still have the same plan and it's not capped at all. Shrug. AT&T's maneuvering cost them 2 data plans from my account. I am sure they won't miss the money though.
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Brooklyn, NY | Re: Related to Old MediaNet Plans? Mine is slow but it's not capping because occasionally I can still get up to 700-800kbit (rarely though, mostly home @ very early morning hours.) | |
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jjoshua
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join:2001-06-01
Scotch Plains, NJ | That was a good deal It was somewhat of a hack but if you were able to get a GoPhone sim and activate it on a GoPhone, you could use the sim in any device and only pay $20/month for an unlimited data plan. | |
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snipper_cr
join:2002-01-22
Wheaton, IL
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join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| Re: Protection said by snipper_cr :Its nice to see some protection for the customer with that 100 dollar limit. It was starting to become common place for people to accidentally do something wrong and get a 20,000 dollar phone bill. Yeah but that $100 only get you an extra 213 MB of data. Hardly a bargin. $480 per GB is outrageous. If gas stations were selling gas for $6000 a gallon the governemnt would be having all kind of investigations. | |
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join:2007-02-19
Fredericksburg, TX | Re: Protection Crap. Guess it's time to sell my AT&T HSPA card. Anyone want a Sierra Wireless USBConnect 881? No way am I going to pay $60month for 5GB of data. $20/month for 5GB, no problem, for wireless stuff. $60, uh uh. | |
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koma3504
Advocate
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join:2004-06-22
North Richland Hills, TX | Sprint I do believe sprint has a unlimited usage plan for 60 bucks a mounth with a free card. | |
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join:2007-02-19
Fredericksburg, TX | Re: Sprint No, they're capped at 5GB/month. Millenicom is different, but you have to pay for a data card there. See previous stories here on Sprint. | |
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koma3504
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join:2004-06-22
North Richland Hills, TX | Re: Sprint Ill have to double check but Have a truck driver that has one and he says it is unlimited but it alos might depend on what cell package you have also. | |
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join:2007-02-19
Fredericksburg, TX | Re: Sprint Nope, not unlimited anymore. It's a recent change. | |
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Simba7
join:2003-03-24
Billings, MT | Re: Sprint I'm on Alltel and enjoying my unlimited data.
I just hope Verizon doesn't fsck it up, but you know they will. | |
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join:2001-08-24
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k1ll3rdr4g0n
join:2005-03-19
Homer Glen, IL
| Greedy AT&T Wait, why can't they just punish the users that are abusing it off the network?
This is SIMPLE programming, if user uses more than X kb/min then trottle. If user is still using Y kb/min deny them access to the network.
Your telling me a million dollar company couldn't have thrown a few $$$ at some programmers to make something like that? Instead they have to punish even the honest users? Bad economy my butt, AT&T is just being greedy now. | |
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tapeloop
1959. I try to kick the ball. I miss.
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join:2004-06-27
Airstrip One | Aw man... I was really enjoying using the AT&T 3G SIM MediaNet/ExpressCard combo for short-term roaming access when I went on trips. I can't justify paying $40+ a month for something that I won't use that often. Oh well. | |
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pabster
join:2001-12-09
Waterloo, IA | PYP Still Works, To Be Clear Just to be clear, the $20 option will still work fine with GoPhone Pick-Your-Plan. Just the cheapo pay-go accounts won't be able to use it any more. I'm not surprised. | |
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thunderpants
join:2008-10-06
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| Re: Pulling the plug... I cannot for the life of me, as a non-us customer, understand one thing. This company has advertised an UNLIMITED service for $20 a month, and then gets all p*ssy when customers use it. If its not an unlimited service, they shouldn't advertise it as unlimited, then they wouldn't have all this trouble when they withdraw it.
Dunno about the USA, but we have laws against false or misleading advertising in the UK. Maybe someone needs to take AT&T to task. | |
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join:2007-09-04
Edmonton, AB | Reply If you advertise something as UNLIMITED, you have to be ready to accept the fact that some customers will make very good use of the service.
If it's not truly unlimited, then don't use the word unlimited or don't offer it at all. | |
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@insightbb.com | Re: Reply I totally agree! I also want to vent about the so called"unlimited M2M" on the $39 voice plan that first takes the M2M minutes from my 5000 nite/weekend sum first, HUH! | |
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wispalord
join:2007-09-20
House Springs, MO | wtf when i called asking for this on a gophone 3 months ago they told me there was no such thing | |
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| AT&T does it again! Well what's new - with AT&T or any of the US carriers??????
This is typical of them. They offer teaser deals to suck customers in, them hike their fees after they have the customer hooked.
Or as in this case, perhaps they thought customers didn't understand the definition of "unlimited". Once again, thinking that their customers were stupid.
Another favorite trick of most all the US carriers is to strip features out of the phones so they can sell them back to the customers at higher fees.
As I travel throughout much of the world, I find that most all of these practices are limited to just the US carriers. In other parts of the world, better service, better phones, more features, and fewer or lower fees abound.
Perhaps such greed is rooted in many US businesses, which has led to the financial situation we are now faced with, as well as much of the world because of US businesses exporting such practices. Pity.
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join:2008-12-13
Montevallo, AL
| Re: AT&T does it again! "Another favorite trick of most all the US carriers is to strip features out of the phones so they can sell them back to the customers at higher fees"
Actually this isnt a big deal, theres a mountain of information on the web that lets you unlock and setup your phone, smartphone etc. Even the newer smartphones such as the blackberry bold, its pretty simple to setup for say......tmobile. (apps such as crackutil and the downloading of a service book, means it takes all of 5 minutes). Really doesnt take a genius to add features manually to most phones. | |
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Furthermore, plans(unless specifically designated for tethering usage) cannot be used for any applications that tether the device (through use of, including without limitation, connection kits, other phone/PDA-to computer accessories, Bluetooth® or any other wireless technology) to Personal Computers (including without limitation, laptops), or other equipment for any purpose. | |
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djboogie
join:2008-12-13
Montevallo, AL
| once again US proves how backward it is with Cell service Having moved to the US from the UK in 2001, I have been STAGGERED by how backward the country is with its cell service, and how people simply cannot get options they want such as prepay with a decent "Ill pay up front" plan. I was hoping things were changing when I started with tmobiles pay and go (after $100 dollars spent, the service allows you to top up only once a year, gives a discount on calls, and rolls over) STILL customers in the US are faced with having to pay for incoming calls (doesnt happen in the UK, incoming is free......on any plan, anywhere), which they bizarely happily accept (very strange indeed), and the option to pay up front for data services seems to have taken a step.........backwards. In fact only alltell actually offer any type of decent voice and data plan...but get this..a $35 activation fee???.......er......to press a button? If you buy a prepay in the uk, you dont have to call anyone, there is no added tax on the card (taxes for phone services in the US are mind boggling to say the least), and you dont have to call anyone.....you just enter the prepay code on the card, and thats it (watch the bourne identity, youll see what I mean) WHICH also means, no crappy spam calls etc.
So in the midst of pretty much, a recession, what do companies do in the US......decide for us that if we want data plans....we HAVE to pay for them month to month in a contract, (even alltells prepaid really isnt prepaid, as you have to pay $4 for every unused month, its pretty much asking you to pay.........for nothing) ok $4 isnt a lot....but it is when youre not using the damn thing, like at all
More companies are going to go the same way as the banks.who ask for $30 if they have to send out reminders....then send out countless amounts of junk in the mail (basically, they say it costs them to print reminders....but then print a load of junk) and STILL charge for ATM service???? and CHECKS?? (this is 2008, not 1988). Cellphone service is the same, its asking for money for nothing, or FORCING customers into contracts because they cant find the service any other way.
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AT&T Kills Off $20 Unlimited Pre-Paid Data
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