|
iPhoneDoes this include the iPhone? | |
|
|
1 recommendation |
Re: iPhoneNo. | |
|
| | |
Re: iPhoneWhew, I was about to blow a gasket. My wife totally loves her iPhone and there's no way in hell I'd pay another $40 for her dataplan. | |
|
| | |
| 1 edit |
The article says GoPhones. This news posting is misleading or I speed read to quickly or it was later edited. | |
|
| | |
Re: iPhone"The article says GoPhones. This news posting is misleading or I speed read to quickly or it was later edited"
Actually its not that misleading, they (at&t) recently changed their data plans, if you check their website for example and look for a prepaid data plan for blackberry......you wont find one....a month ago, you would have. | |
|
1 edit |
SketchyIt was sketchy to start with. I remember the article and tutorial showing you how to tether go-phone 3G data + laptop for only $20/month. I thought about going this route since I pay $60/mo for a 3G laptop card. It was a work around and the people knew they were doing some sketch stuff. | |
|
| ptrowskiGot Helix? Premium Member join:2005-03-14 Woodstock, CT |
ptrowski
Premium Member
2008-Oct-6 2:18 pm
Re: Sketchysaid by ninjatutle:It was sketchy to start with. I remember the article and tutorial showing you how to teather go-phone 3G data + laptop for only $20/month. I thought about going this route since I pay $60/mo for a 3G laptop card. It was a work around and the people knew they were doing some sketch stuff. People used it within the terms that AT&T set. Hardly sketchy. | |
|
| | |
Re: SketchyIt was sketch because tethering was not apart of the terms. I looked into it at the time and figured it would be shut down at any time so I didn't pay the early term to do this. I would have ended up with more money in my pocket each month. | |
|
| | | ptrowskiGot Helix? Premium Member join:2005-03-14 Woodstock, CT |
ptrowski
Premium Member
2008-Oct-6 3:03 pm
Re: Sketchysaid by ninjatutle:It was sketch because tethering was not apart of the terms. I looked into it at the time and figured it would be shut down at any time so I didn't pay the early term to do this. I would have ended up with more money in my pocket each month. Since it was not a part of the terms I would not call it sketchy. It was not prohibited. | |
|
| | | | en102Canadian, eh? join:2001-01-26 Valencia, CA
1 recommendation |
en102
Member
2008-Oct-6 3:06 pm
Re: SketchyExactly. It wasn't part of the terms mentioned as acceptable OR prohibited. Since it wasn't mentioned at all, one would assume that it is ok. | |
|
| | | | | ptrowskiGot Helix? Premium Member join:2005-03-14 Woodstock, CT |
ptrowski
Premium Member
2008-Oct-6 3:28 pm
Re: Sketchysaid by en102:Exactly. It wasn't part of the terms mentioned as acceptable OR prohibited. Since it wasn't mentioned at all, one would assume that it is ok. Bingo! | |
|
| | | | | | |
Re: SketchyWho says it wasn't prohibited? | |
|
| | | | | | | ptrowskiGot Helix? Premium Member join:2005-03-14 Woodstock, CT |
ptrowski
Premium Member
2008-Oct-6 3:32 pm
Re: Sketchy | |
|
| | | | | | | | |
Re: SketchyWho says it wasn't? | |
|
| | | | | | | | | ptrowskiGot Helix? Premium Member join:2005-03-14 Woodstock, CT |
ptrowski
Premium Member
2008-Oct-6 3:36 pm
Re: SketchyOk, this is fun. My point is saying it is "sktechy" without showing "why" you think it is sketchy is silly.
Plus knowing AT&T, if it was strictly prohibited they would sock people with charges instead of just change the plan. | |
|
| | | | | | | | | wierdo join:2001-02-16 Miami, FL |
wierdo
Member
2008-Oct-6 3:48 pm
Re: Sketchysaid by ptrowski:Plus knowing AT&T, if it was strictly prohibited they would sock people with charges instead of just change the plan. You can only know them by their written policies, which don't allow for any penalty for misuse of a data plan except removal of that plan. They can't add a different plan or add a different feature (like pay-per-use data) and remain within their written policies. | |
|
| | | | | | | | | |
to ptrowski
Please stop feeding the troll. | |
|
| | | | | | | | | ctggzg Premium Member join:2005-02-11 USA |
ctggzg
Premium Member
2008-Oct-7 9:16 am
Re: SketchyPlease stop calling people stupid names when you don't agree with their opinions. People who throw around the word "troll" are worse than the ones they're accusing. | |
|
| | | | | | | | | tapeloopNot bad at all, really. Premium Member join:2004-06-27 Airstrip One
1 recommendation |
to ptrowski
Is too! | |
|
| | | | | Maccawolf Premium Member join:2001-02-20 Hillsdale, NJ |
to en102
said by en102:Exactly. It wasn't part of the terms mentioned as acceptable OR prohibited. Since it wasn't mentioned at all, one would assume that it is ok. while I personally agree with you, the law is "ignorance is no excuse of the law" BTW, you know what happens when you ASSUME, don't you? | |
|
| | | | | | ptrowskiGot Helix? Premium Member join:2005-03-14 Woodstock, CT
1 recommendation |
ptrowski
Premium Member
2008-Oct-6 3:57 pm
Re: Sketchysaid by Maccawolf:BTW, you know what happens when you ASSUME, don't you? You get hit with a higher rate? | |
|
| | | | | | fancydancerPerception is just your reality Premium Member join:2002-08-28 Springfield, IL |
to Maccawolf
said by Maccawolf:while I personally agree with you, the law is "ignorance is no excuse of the law" I agree with your quote, but if ATT omitted to say it was allowed or prohibited, then it is not a "law" | |
|
| | | | | | | tapeloopNot bad at all, really. Premium Member join:2004-06-27 Airstrip One |
tapeloop
Premium Member
2008-Oct-6 4:49 pm
Re: Sketchysaid by fancydancer:said by Maccawolf:while I personally agree with you, the law is "ignorance is no excuse of the law" I agree with your quote, but if ATT omitted to say it was allowed or prohibited, then it is not a "law" True. And even if it were explicitly stated, it would be a "Term of Service," not a law. But I'm splitting hairs. | |
|
| | | | | | en102Canadian, eh? join:2001-01-26 Valencia, CA |
to Maccawolf
When there was no 'law', AT&T essentially allowed it. Typically AT&T and many others tend to blanket cover themselves (i.e. 'anything other than WAP / MMS / SMS covered by MEdia Net is forbidden, such as VoIP, p2p, or anything 'we' deem bad'. This is something that I would have expected out of AT&T. | |
|
| | wierdo join:2001-02-16 Miami, FL
1 recommendation |
to ptrowski
said by ptrowski:People used it within the terms that AT&T set. Hardly sketchy. Or not. Unless at&t is stupid, which is quite possible. They've had no-tethering terms on the postpaid MEdiaNet Unlimited plans for several years now. (either '04 or '05) They made the mistake of not having those terms (or international data roaming fees) in their original MEdia Works Unlimited plans. Surely they remembered to put the same clause in the prepaid version of the data plan. Of course, I'm a hypocrite. I don't have those terms, and if I did, I wouldn't pay attention to them. | |
|
| | | ptrowskiGot Helix? Premium Member join:2005-03-14 Woodstock, CT |
ptrowski
Premium Member
2008-Oct-6 3:56 pm
Re: SketchyI tried to search about what the terms were, but there is no way to tell if the terms were changed or not. | |
|
| | | | wierdo join:2001-02-16 Miami, FL |
wierdo
Member
2008-Oct-6 5:00 pm
Re: Sketchysaid by ptrowski:I tried to search about what the terms were, but there is no way to tell if the terms were changed or not. at&t is one of the few who has the policy of notification before any change in terms. If they don't notify you, your terms didn't change, even if new signups have different terms under which they get service. Contrast this with Sprint, who not only doesn't require notification, only posting on their website, but if you use the phone after they post the new terms on the website, you've accepted whatever they decided to put in there without telling you. On the bright side with them, at least the terms are easier to find. You're not stuck digging through your closet looking for the contract you signed. One thing that does annoy me about at&t is that they don't have a policy of sending you a paper copy of the terms under which a particular feature operates when you sign up over the phone. You do in store (on the rare occasion that reps actually give you all the paperwork they're supposed to), but on the phone, you're pretty much out of luck unless you think to ask, and even then I don't know that they can mail you a copy. | |
|
pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty Premium Member join:2002-05-02 Mount Airy, MD |
pnh102
Premium Member
2008-Oct-6 2:17 pm
Related to Old MediaNet Plans?I had a similar MediaNet plan from 2003 which had "unlimited" data for $15 a month. The same plan was recently capped at 5MB a month. Not only did I promptly drop it, but I also changed the data connection settings on my phone so I don't "accidentally" use data anymore. | |
|
| kamm join:2001-02-14 Brooklyn, NY |
kamm
Member
2008-Oct-6 2:23 pm
Re: Related to Old MediaNet Plans?said by pnh102:I had a similar MediaNet plan from 2003 which had "unlimited" data for $15 a month. The same plan was recently capped at 5MB a month. Not only did I promptly drop it, but I also changed the data connection settings on my phone so I don't "accidentally" use data anymore. I still have the same plan and it's not capped at all. | |
|
| | pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty Premium Member join:2002-05-02 Mount Airy, MD |
pnh102
Premium Member
2008-Oct-6 2:31 pm
Re: Related to Old MediaNet Plans?said by kamm:I still have the same plan and it's not capped at all. Shrug. AT&T's maneuvering cost them 2 data plans from my account. I am sure they won't miss the money though. | |
|
| | | kamm join:2001-02-14 Brooklyn, NY |
kamm
Member
2008-Oct-6 10:34 pm
Re: Related to Old MediaNet Plans?Mine is slow but it's not capping because occasionally I can still get up to 700-800kbit (rarely though, mostly home @ very early morning hours.) | |
|
jjoshua Premium Member join:2001-06-01 Scotch Plains, NJ
1 recommendation |
jjoshua
Premium Member
2008-Oct-6 2:30 pm
That was a good dealIt was somewhat of a hack but if you were able to get a GoPhone sim and activate it on a GoPhone, you could use the sim in any device and only pay $20/month for an unlimited data plan. | |
|
snipper_cr Premium Member join:2002-01-22 Wheaton, IL |
ProtectionIts nice to see some protection for the customer with that 100 dollar limit. It was starting to become common place for people to accidentally do something wrong and get a 20,000 dollar phone bill. | |
|
| 88615298 (banned) join:2004-07-28 West Tenness |
88615298 (banned)
Member
2008-Oct-6 2:41 pm
Re: Protectionsaid by snipper_cr:Its nice to see some protection for the customer with that 100 dollar limit. It was starting to become common place for people to accidentally do something wrong and get a 20,000 dollar phone bill. Yeah but that $100 only get you an extra 213 MB of data. Hardly a bargin. $480 per GB is outrageous. If gas stations were selling gas for $6000 a gallon the governemnt would be having all kind of investigations. | |
|
| | |
Re: ProtectionCrap. Guess it's time to sell my AT&T HSPA card. Anyone want a Sierra Wireless USBConnect 881? No way am I going to pay $60month for 5GB of data. $20/month for 5GB, no problem, for wireless stuff. $60, uh uh. | |
|
koma3504Advocate Premium Member join:2004-06-22 Granbury, TX |
koma3504
Premium Member
2008-Oct-6 3:29 pm
Sprint I do believe sprint has a unlimited usage plan for 60 bucks a mounth with a free card. | |
|
| •••• |
|
1g for 3gI paid $83 a month for iPhone 3G with tax and everything. so a year is around $996 about $1000 to AT&T, I just don't know how people can afford this. also the crappy 3g service is just another story. | |
|
| •••• |
|
Greedy AT&TWait, why can't they just punish the users that are abusing it off the network? This is SIMPLE programming, if user uses more than X kb/min then trottle. If user is still using Y kb/min deny them access to the network. Your telling me a million dollar company couldn't have thrown a few $$$ at some programmers to make something like that? Instead they have to punish even the honest users? Bad economy my butt, AT&T is just being greedy now. | |
|
tapeloopNot bad at all, really. Premium Member join:2004-06-27 Airstrip One |
tapeloop
Premium Member
2008-Oct-6 4:03 pm
Aw man...I was really enjoying using the AT&T 3G SIM MediaNet/ExpressCard combo for short-term roaming access when I went on trips. I can't justify paying $40+ a month for something that I won't use that often. Oh well. | |
|
Matt_31Who Hit The Power Button Premium Member join:2003-02-21 Tacoma, WA ARRIS TG1672 Netgear R8000
|
Matt_31
Premium Member
2008-Oct-6 5:41 pm
Sad way to save buttjust 3 weeks ago we debated between contract or gophone and we chose contract. Im glad we did (am i really saying that) .. cause now im not going to have to monitor it every second. Also now ill have proof to show my wife that going contract was worth it (ouch ... what a way win browie points) | |
|
|
PYP Still Works, To Be ClearJust to be clear, the $20 option will still work fine with GoPhone Pick-Your-Plan. Just the cheapo pay-go accounts won't be able to use it any more. I'm not surprised. | |
|
|
Re: Pulling the plug...I cannot for the life of me, as a non-us customer, understand one thing. This company has advertised an UNLIMITED service for $20 a month, and then gets all p*ssy when customers use it. If its not an unlimited service, they shouldn't advertise it as unlimited, then they wouldn't have all this trouble when they withdraw it.
Dunno about the USA, but we have laws against false or misleading advertising in the UK. Maybe someone needs to take AT&T to task. | |
|
TheMG Premium Member join:2007-09-04 Canada |
TheMG
Premium Member
2008-Oct-6 9:35 pm
ReplyIf you advertise something as UNLIMITED, you have to be ready to accept the fact that some customers will make very good use of the service.
If it's not truly unlimited, then don't use the word unlimited or don't offer it at all. | |
|
| |
ATthrowmoremoney
Anon
2008-Oct-7 12:20 am
Re: ReplyI totally agree! I also want to vent about the so called"unlimited M2M" on the $39 voice plan that first takes the M2M minutes from my 5000 nite/weekend sum first, HUH! | |
|
|
wtfwhen i called asking for this on a gophone 3 months ago they told me there was no such thing | |
|
|
Dr Don Pietro
Anon
2008-Oct-7 12:52 pm
AT&T does it again!Well what's new - with AT&T or any of the US carriers??????
This is typical of them. They offer teaser deals to suck customers in, them hike their fees after they have the customer hooked.
Or as in this case, perhaps they thought customers didn't understand the definition of "unlimited". Once again, thinking that their customers were stupid.
Another favorite trick of most all the US carriers is to strip features out of the phones so they can sell them back to the customers at higher fees.
As I travel throughout much of the world, I find that most all of these practices are limited to just the US carriers. In other parts of the world, better service, better phones, more features, and fewer or lower fees abound.
Perhaps such greed is rooted in many US businesses, which has led to the financial situation we are now faced with, as well as much of the world because of US businesses exporting such practices. Pity.
| |
|
| |
Re: AT&T does it again!"Another favorite trick of most all the US carriers is to strip features out of the phones so they can sell them back to the customers at higher fees"
Actually this isnt a big deal, theres a mountain of information on the web that lets you unlock and setup your phone, smartphone etc. Even the newer smartphones such as the blackberry bold, its pretty simple to setup for say......tmobile. (apps such as crackutil and the downloading of a service book, means it takes all of 5 minutes). Really doesnt take a genius to add features manually to most phones. | |
|
|
Alaxar
Anon
2008-Oct-8 11:52 am
Correction» www.wireless.att.com/lea ··· ices.jspFurthermore, plans(unless specifically designated for tethering usage) cannot be used for any applications that tether the device (through use of, including without limitation, connection kits, other phone/PDA-to computer accessories, Bluetooth® or any other wireless technology) to Personal Computers (including without limitation, laptops), or other equipment for any purpose. | |
|
|
once again US proves how backward it is with Cell serviceHaving moved to the US from the UK in 2001, I have been STAGGERED by how backward the country is with its cell service, and how people simply cannot get options they want such as prepay with a decent "Ill pay up front" plan. I was hoping things were changing when I started with tmobiles pay and go (after $100 dollars spent, the service allows you to top up only once a year, gives a discount on calls, and rolls over) STILL customers in the US are faced with having to pay for incoming calls (doesnt happen in the UK, incoming is free......on any plan, anywhere), which they bizarely happily accept (very strange indeed), and the option to pay up front for data services seems to have taken a step.........backwards. In fact only alltell actually offer any type of decent voice and data plan...but get this..a $35 activation fee???.......er......to press a button? If you buy a prepay in the uk, you dont have to call anyone, there is no added tax on the card (taxes for phone services in the US are mind boggling to say the least), and you dont have to call anyone.....you just enter the prepay code on the card, and thats it (watch the bourne identity, youll see what I mean) WHICH also means, no crappy spam calls etc. So in the midst of pretty much, a recession, what do companies do in the US......decide for us that if we want data plans....we HAVE to pay for them month to month in a contract, (even alltells prepaid really isnt prepaid, as you have to pay $4 for every unused month, its pretty much asking you to pay.........for nothing) ok $4 isnt a lot....but it is when youre not using the damn thing, like at all More companies are going to go the same way as the banks.who ask for $30 if they have to send out reminders....then send out countless amounts of junk in the mail (basically, they say it costs them to print reminders....but then print a load of junk) and STILL charge for ATM service???? and CHECKS?? (this is 2008, not 1988). Cellphone service is the same, its asking for money for nothing, or FORCING customers into contracts because they cant find the service any other way. I have an unlocked blackberry, and if it wasnt for the fact I get free wifi at home via my router (and can still use the prepaid t mobile to go for calls), It would be getting sold on ebay, no question. | |
|
|
|