  thegeekPremium
join:2008-02-21
united state
kudos:1 | High Speeds Of course the speeds are going to be great right now. Nobody is using it. Give it time. | |
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join:2007-04-10
Raleigh, NC
kudos:5 Reviews:
 ·AT&T Southeast
| $10/GB? Really??? I still don't get the BS of data caps, esp. ones that can be exceeded in under 30 minutes. (granted, I'm also wondering w.t.f. you'd be doing on a phone that would download 5GB in 30min.)
They're making the network faster and faster, but still clinging to stupid low data caps. | |
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It's how they return shareholder value kind sir...
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| | fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
join:2005-05-20
kudos:3 | Re: $10/GB? Really??? said by aztecnology:said by cramer:I still don't get the BS of data caps, esp. ones that can be exceeded in under 30 minutes...They're making the network faster and faster, but still clinging to stupid low data caps.
It's how they return shareholder value kind sir... They first have to actually give something to the share holders of value before that argument can be played. But, you did say the word "value" which in today's world means only "worth".. it doesn't necessarily translate into anything you can actually touch in your hand. | |
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| | | | | Re: $10/GB? Really??? said by fiberguy:said by aztecnology:said by cramer:I still don't get the BS of data caps, esp. ones that can be exceeded in under 30 minutes...They're making the network faster and faster, but still clinging to stupid low data caps.
It's how they return shareholder value kind sir... They first have to actually give something to the share holders of value before that argument can be played. Actually,the shareholder invests first, and then AT&T returns the value...
"AT&T (T): AT&T is a worldwide leader in global telecommunications. They currently have a market cap of 173 billion which makes it one of the largest companies on this list. T’s dividend is currently yielding 5.90%. AT&T has five year revenue growth rate of 23.21%, an EPS of $3.30, and a P/E ratio of 8.52, which is well below the sectors average. AT&T also has a very good history with its dividends having issued and increased them for 28 consecutive years."
»seekingalpha.com/article/290806-···d-stocks
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| | | The high speeds really don't matter much when your capping smartphones at 2 GB. | |
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| |  MattAll noise, no signal.Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
kudos:12 | Re: $10/GB? Really??? said by DataRiker:The high speeds really don't matter much when your capping smartphones at 2 GB.
I have a 4G LTE phone (Droid Bionic) and browsing the web with 3G versus 4G is dramatic. I don't see myself using more data (and I have the 2GB plan) but the experience is much more pleasant. | |
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| | | | | Re: $10/GB? Really??? I've loaded web pages on both and can't really tell the difference. ( on both Sprint and T-mobile ) Verizon doesn't have 4g here.
In other words I've never seen 3g bottleneck my page loading before.
Maybe you've got crappy 3g. | |
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join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
kudos:12 | Re: $10/GB? Really??? said by DataRiker:I've loaded web pages on both and can't really tell the difference. ( on both Sprint and T-mobile ) Verizon doesn't have 4g here.
In other words I've never seen 3g bottleneck my page loading before.
Maybe you've got crappy 3g.
That's possible, but doubtful as it's across both Verizon, AT&T (including HSPA+, which is all T-Mobile has and is not true 4G), as well as Sprint.
It's extremely noticeable. Most reviewers agree, which is why the Bionic was one of the most anticipated phones ever. | |
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AT&T/T-Mobile have their flavor of 4G (HSPA+). | |
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join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
kudos:12 | Re: $10/GB? Really??? said by en103:Verizon and Sprint don't have 4G where I am (VZW is expected by 2nd half of 2012) - I'm just outside of Los Angeles city limits.
AT&T/T-Mobile have their flavor of 4G (HSPA+).
I've never been impressed with Sprint's 4G (WiMax), but Verizon's LTE is so far, amazing. I'm sure it will get worse as more LTE devices are released, but so far I'm very impressed. I see 25Mbps/15Mbps to my phone with 100ms of latency. | |
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| | | | | | | | Re: $10/GB? Really??? LTE Is nice but the data plans are horrid I have Sprint 4G WiMax and consistently see speeds above 5 megabits with 1 bar and 11 megabits with two bars ping is about 70ms or less even on 3G | |
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| | | | | Try when your only option for high speed internet is from your phone, hooked to your PC. Then you will see the data flow. While browsing the same few sites, and downloading a few things here and there I used over 6GB on my HTC EVO hooked to my PC, with 3G speeds, and they weren't even fast. And I didn't download anything big, I didn't download movies, or play any games online. Also very few youtube videos. Imagine online gaming, Netflix streaming added to that 6Gb of normal use.
Very easy to say you don't use data when browsing mobile sites on the phone, that are already bare bones, on top of downloading some 1-4MB apps that don't add up to anything.
To some of us, internet from the phone > hotspot is our only option for fast internet to the PC. | |
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|  timcuthBraves FanPremium
join:2000-09-18
Pelham, AL | Who can afford this? Certainly not I.
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| neftv
join:2000-10-01
Broomall, PA | Company that still lives in the 90's with outdated concepts on technology. | |
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| | | | Re: $10/GB? Really??? said by neftv:Company that still lives in the 90's with outdated concepts on technology.
What data plan were you on in the 90's...?
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join:2000-06-03
Oakland, CA | Re: $10/GB? Really??? Wow, the 90s are so foggy right now. If I remember correctly, unlimited WAP was either $5 or $10 per month depending on the phone. I worked at AT&T at the time as a call center supervisor (after working a year on their "save" team) and had a really nice deal on my bill. Or wait a min, maybe that was the early 2000s. It really has been that long...
Right before I started working for AT&T (cingular), I had service with sprint pcs. No internet service at all. Before that was cellular one, and even GTE before that.
As for outdated technology? I don't think so. The transition from 3g to 4g happened fast. As of right now, 4g lte is not even available to the majority of the population. Sure, fast is good, but even on my wifi it doesn't seem to be all that blazing fast. Definitely no where near a desktop pc. I would expect some relative speed, but nothing mind blowing where I'd be shocked and awed while taking a dump and surfing the web. But oh wait, I have wifi for that and it's not even mind blowing.
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| | | | | | Re: $10/GB? Really??? said by Neosum:Wow, the 90s are so foggy right now. If I remember correctly, unlimited WAP was either $5 or $10 per month depending on the phone. I worked at AT&T at the time as a call center supervisor (after working a year on their "save" team) and had a really nice deal on my bill. Or wait a min, maybe that was the early 2000s. It really has been that long...
"The first full internet service on mobile phones was introduced by NTT DoCoMo in Japan in 1999."
"The first pre-commercial trial network with 3G was launched by NTT DoCoMo in Japan in the Tokyo region in May 2001. NTT DoCoMo launched the first commercial 3G network on October 1, 2001, using the WCDMA technology."
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of···roadband
Right before I started working for AT&T (cingular), I had service with sprint pcs. No internet service at all. Before that was cellular one, and even GTE before that.
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT%26T_Mob···#History
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join:2007-04-10
Raleigh, NC
kudos:5 Reviews:
·AT&T Southeast
| Re: $10/GB? Really??? I worked for ISPs back in those days. I don't recall anyone charging by the byte. They did charge per minute (actually by the hour) for dialup usage. It actually made sense back then... while you are using that modem, no one else can. Today's networks aren't like that. What difference does it make if I download 5GB, 500GB, or 5_B_ as long as the network is not completely saturated. | |
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said by neftv:Company that still lives in the 90's with outdated concepts on technology.
In a thread about AT&T launching 4th generation wireless service, LTE...
Which you are now following, with this:
said by neftv:You don't remember how ISP's did data caps on Dial up? I was referring to Data Caps.
I'm sorry, my crystal ball must need its batteries replaced...
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|  dvd536as Mr. Pink as they comePremium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
kudos:4 | said by cramer:I still don't get the BS of data caps, esp. ones that can be exceeded in under 30 minutes. (granted, I'm also wondering w.t.f. you'd be doing on a phone that would download 5GB in 30min.)
They're making the network faster and faster, but still clinging to stupid low data caps.
Easy if you're using the phone as a modem[tethering]
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| | Woha! "AT&T Launches LTE, Speeds Impress"
AT&T and the word Impress in the same statement? What's next?  | |
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|  cdruGo ColtsPremium,MVM
join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
kudos:5
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| Re: Woha! said by battleop:"AT&T Launches LTE, Speeds Impress"
AT&T and the word Impress in the same statement? What's next?
I thought it was very in line for AT&T. It presents a distorted point of view before something actually happens. It's just like how TMo's merger will bring synergies together to provide better, cheaper service to subscribers. However once people actually use LTE service or the merger takes place, reality will set in and "impress", "cheaper", and "better" will all be preceded with "not". | |
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|  PhoenixAZGet A MacPremium
join:2004-01-04
Phoenix, AZ
kudos:1 | said by battleop:"AT&T Launches LTE, Speeds Impress"
AT&T and the word Impress in the same statement? What's next?
It just further proves the world is going to end in 2012! AT&T Actually providing good service?? | |
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| | | | Re: Woha! said by PhoenixAZ:AT&T Actually providing good service??
Where? | |
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| captnk
join:2001-03-07
Valparaiso, IN | Verizon 175 cities; AT&T 5 cities; I am not impressed AT&T. | |
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| dvd536as Mr. Pink as they comePremium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
kudos:4 | said by battleop:"AT&T Launches LTE, Speeds Impress"
AT&T and the word Impress in the same statement? What's next?
they left out "on a empty network"
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amungusPremium
join:2004-11-26
America Reviews:
·AT&T DSL Service
| wtf is with the caps? If this is a home user's only reasonable choice, where wired service does not exist (because AT&T and others won't bother), what good is such speed if the ability to use it is so limited??
Just curious. We keep hearing about the promise of wireless, but 2-5GB is just not enough. Maybe on a smartphone, sure, but even then, that's bound to increase over time. | |
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join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
kudos:2 | Re: wtf said by amungus:is with the caps? If this is a home user's only reasonable choice, where wired service does not exist (because AT&T and others won't bother), what good is such speed if the ability to use it is so limited?? The service is intended for mobile, on the go, connectivity. Why would anyone expect a telco to allow its significant investment in wireline infrastructure to be supplanted by wireless service without a significant premium? | |
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| |  Smith6612Premium,MVM
join:2008-02-01
North Tonawanda, NY
kudos:21 | Re: wtf A telco who refuses to bring Fiber, let alone DSL out to a particular person stuck with wireless?  | |
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| | | | said by openbox9:said by amungus:is with the caps? If this is a home user's only reasonable choice, where wired service does not exist (because AT&T and others won't bother), what good is such speed if the ability to use it is so limited?? The service is intended for mobile, on the go, connectivity. Why would anyone expect a telco to allow its significant investment in wireline infrastructure to be supplanted by wireless service without a significant premium? hahahaha, investment? im on a main throughfair and i cant get DSL! why? because att wont put it here. nice investment? condition of the bellsouth merger should have been just that, uncapped wireless for any one that cant get DSL thru them..
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join:2002-01-17
Dallas, TX
kudos:1 | I'm also impressed by at&t's Uverse potential to sync at 75 Mbps... at 300 ft! | |
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decifal
join:2007-03-10
Bon Aqua, TN
kudos:1 Reviews:
 ·Verizon Broadban..
| Borg I thought there was some sorta price fixing laws out there to prevent companies for copying each other's pricing while holding hands over the desperate consumer? 5 gig caps, and ten dollar overages? Seriously are they even bothering to draw up their own pricing plans or do they just run by their competitors store and say "these prices will do"?
Needless to say, i'm not happy with the soo called price competition out there.. Hell the head board members are probably the same people.... | |
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| Amazing. At&t can do nice speeds on an empty network for two whole blocks in Atlanta!
...Meanwhile I can go thru all of metro atlanta and out and get verizon 4g coverage...
Yes, truly amazing | |
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