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AT&T Launching LTE Network This Year
Will have 20 '4G' devices offered before year end
by Karl Bode Wednesday 05-Jan-2011 tags: business · wireless · consumers
AT&T at CES today announced that the company would be speeding up their LTE deployment, and will be launching their LTE network sometime in the second half of this year. According to a presentation at CES given to developers, AT&T says they'll be supporting roughly twenty new "4G" devices before the end of the year, which could technically mean HSPA+ or LTE, given 4G's new, almost-meaningless definition, courtesy of the ITU and mobile carrier marketing departments. Expect confusion on that front to be heavy among CES press reports.

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An AT&T press release offers only slightly more information, noting that they expect the LTE build to be completed by the end of 2013. The company also proclaimed that they've completed their HSPA+ "to virtually 100 percent of its mobile broadband network," so if you're still stuck in an EDGE-only market things likely won't be changing anytime soon.

According to AT&T, "recent tax law incentives, along with other policy developments" (read: AT&T's victorious efforts to ensure no network neutrality protection for wireless networks) are what AT&T claims drove the company to speed up their LTE plans. We'd guess that Verizon's massive recent LTE launch covering 38 markets (a third of the country's population) and 60+ airports likely played a bigger role.

So far there's no word on pricing or caps for this new network, and while AT&T says more information on the new LTE network will appear via this website later today, AT&T likely hasn't yet determined their pricing strategy yet.

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Duramax08
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capcapcapcapcapcapsssss

Anyone?

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Re: capcapcapcapcapcapsssss

You say that like it is isolated to AT&T....

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Re: capcapcapcapcapcapsssss

Well verizon gots those 5 and 10 gig caps for LTE which are like the same caps for 3G. ATT gots the 2 and 5 gig cap. They probably got lower caps but thats probably not worth mentioning. Wonder if they are going to follow in the footsteps of verizon......

idunno, see what happens.
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Re: capcapcapcapcapcapsssss

That's why I am sticking with my unlimited iphone plan for as long as I can....

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Re: capcapcapcapcapcapsssss

same here. that mywi app does wonders!

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Re: capcapcapcapcapcapsssss

said by Duramax08:

same here. that mywi app does wonders!

Sure does, I love that little app!

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said by Gbcue:

Overage charges are the worst.

I would rather pay overage charges and be able to get the higher speeds than have a "4g" phone and be throttled to dialup.

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said by Gbcue:

Overage charges are the worst.

No overages here. Its TRULY unlimited. 2.5 down/ 1 up with a ping of 100 ms all the time.
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Re: capcapcapcapcapcapsssss

I'm talking about those not fortunate to have got an unlimited plan on AT&T.
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Hmm

That "virtually" is the key word there. I think they looked over my town of 40,000 then, HSUPA, no HSPA+ here or anywhere in the surrounding area besides the capitol of Columbus.
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Re: Hmm

And as again; i DO NOT live in Cleveland. read!

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Re: Hmm

I think this is where they are getting cleveland from....

Just saying.
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Re: Hmm

said by hottboiinnc:

you're not a metro area. Lancaster has what? a state prision? yah build out the LTE networks there for the prisions. Smart move.

Your city only has roughly: 37,251 people as of 2009 data. and the average income of all those people are $36,189. that is WHY you get skipped over. the population size in a whole compared to other metro areas AND the income base.

How does Verizon do it?
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Re: Hmm

easy. network build is based on level of income and hour rural the city is.

Rural area; not a large income base; no services. DUH! Why do you think they sold Ohio to Frontier? No income and rural markets.
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VZ LTE Coverage Question

quote:
(not, say -- Verizon's massive recent LTE launch covering a third of the country)

How did VZ cover a third of the country? Last I saw was a couple of little blobs on the coverage map around the metro areas that they launched.

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Re: VZ LTE Coverage Question

Should clarify a third of the country's population, yes.

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ROFL

They can't even get their current 3G network up to snuff, now they plan to go for 4G with either HSPA+ or LTE (undecided) phones? They probably won't have any phones, only data sticks for a good while.

ROFL!
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Re: ROFL

said by Gbcue:

They probably won't have any phones, only data sticks for a good while.

Here are the LTE smartphones coming:


»www.att.com/shop/wireless/device···IcKmK3tu
»www.att.com/shop/wireless/device···IcKmK3tu

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They'll be crippled, for sure.

They've got to protect their cash cow, iPhone.
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How does that crow taste?

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Re: ROFL

None of the phone state the max download/upload speeds, just some ambiguous language "HSPA+ with enhanced backhaul".

Are they only 7.2mpbs? 14.4mpbs? 21mpbs?
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Re: ROFL

We all know here why you show such "interest".
You doubted there would be phones, they were presented to you.

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said by Romney2012:

said by Gbcue:

They probably won't have any phones, only data sticks for a good while.

Here are the LTE smartphones coming:
[att=1]
»www.att.com/shop/wireless/device···IcKmK3tu
»www.att.com/shop/wireless/device···IcKmK3tu

Those are all HSPA+ devices.

»www.dailytech.com/UPDATE+ATT+Con···0575.htm
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I think at&t is doing a good job -- their 3G has been great for 2+ years and improving so many people would likely welcome LTE which has been on the planning table for some time now.

For a rural area with satellite access for alternatives, I think these 3G speeds are up to snuff considering my data card only does 7.2m. Not the fastest but works nicely for me!


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Re: ROFL

Their 3G sucks if you're in a populated area like NYC. I can barely get 1Mbps and in many areas my connection times out.

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funny if you can even get 3g speeds. So much edge in there network.

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Re: ROFL

If you have a local telephone line with them in rural area's you cant even do dailup anymore. With there crazy caps like Verizon like I have wouldnt make a difference in rural area's even if the do ever put LTE on there whole network. At least I have a Verizon tower by me and no at&t cell service in site I could care less what they do.
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still no 3g here

suposadly they where going to have 3G in albany ga by the end of december,, yet here i sit with 3 3G phones all showing "E".

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TACO PARTY

I find it comical that AT&T bashes its own network using an iPhone to demonstrate a competitor's slow network.
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Wow, do they think we're really all dumb enough to not notice that?

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Which iPhone is that? (Spoiler alert: it isn't one)

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said by removed:

Which iPhone is that? (Spoiler alert: it isn't one)

It's an iPhone 3G with carbon fibre covering the speaker and button.
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More AT&T lies

27kbps in my office. I can't even check email on my iPhone.

No worries. Guess who has two middle fingers and is out of contract. THIS GUY. As soon as there's an iPhone ANYwhere else, I'm gone.

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Re: More AT&T lies

you must love steve jobs so he can make more money.

Droid.

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In related news, AT&T has announced

that future caps for all products will be cut in half to 1gb of data monthly

"We feel that the consumers win by a lower cap," said AT&T Exec Idiot Douchebag. "99.9999% of the universe will not come anywhere close to the 1gb cap"*

Additionally, AT&T will offer additional data at a charge of $59.99 for another 1gb. What a deal!

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According to AT&T, it's NOT 4G!

»AT&T Calls Out T-Mobile For Pretending 3G Is 4G

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I'm switching to VZW when HTC Thunderbold it released.

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VZW, here I come.

Verizon has more coverage in Colorado, and mostly where I am they already have a working 700MHz 4G LTE network.

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Re: I'm switching to VZW when HTC Thunderbold it released.

You do realize that vzw's LTE network is data only and not voice. So what it nets you is the same thing the Evo on spint does. Faster mobile data speeds when you are not at your home or office (where you will be on wifi) at significant cost to your battery life because it's running two radios (3 if you have wifi on as well) all the time.

700mhz LTE wont help at all with voice/sms dead spots so in reality it does nothing for coverage. They could deploy it on 9GHZ or 1mhz and you'd have the same voice/sms coverage that are on 850mhz.

I imagine a large portion of vzw LTE smart-phone users will keep the LTE radio off a good portion of the day, if not always. It's also the reason I expect there's a good chance Apple may not deploy LTE in their next gen iphone so they dont have to run 3 radios (imagine the battery drain on that) with GSM, UMTS, and LTE all at the same time.
You're almost virtually guaranteed the VZW iphone will be EVDO and the iPhone 5 will be HSPA+

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Re: I'm switching to VZW when HTC Thunderbold it released.

Err.... unless you're tethering over WiFi, it's kinda hard to imagine having both UMTS/LTE, AND WiFi radios on at the same time.

Also, while 700 Mhz LTE doesn't improve voice/SMS (at least for now, until VoIP over LTE becomes commonplace), the whole point of LTE isn't voice, but vastly lower latency and much higher bandwidth, as well as somewhat improved spectral efficiency (granted, those same modulation efficiencies are being added in to the specs for newer HSPA+ networks as they roll out), meaning more users/carrier channel.

Secondly, in case you haven't noticed, the first focus of LTE is PC/laptop-based users of data-only plans, not smartphone users (do you LIKE watching high-def videos on a 3-inch screen?). Not to mention, even with the newest smartphone CPU's, a lot of phones simply don't have the horsepower (or efficient browsers) to render webpages/graphics fast enough for LTE to make a difference there. As it is, a lot of high-end 3G or 3.99G networks saturate smartphones in terms of processing speeds.

Finally, the so-called "Verizon iPhone" is (so far) pure speculation... if you ask me, the next iPhone will probably just be HSPA+, considering the fact that a boatload of AT&T cell sites already have it (yes, AT&T is actually upgrading a lot of sites to beyond-7.2 Mbit HSPA tech). By the time next year rolls out, it is highly likely HSPA+ chipsets will be sufficiently power-efficient that Apple can be OK with putting one in an iPhone. Come to think about it, instead of a Verizon iPhone, a penta-band HSPA+ iPhone would make more sense (Heck, the Nokia N8 already sports a penta-band HSPA 10.2/2 chip).

In short, what Apple's game plan probably should be: End exclusivity with AT&T, and sell the phone subsidized/unsubsidized (and unlocked) on both T-mo's upgraded HSPA+ network, and AT&T's expanding HSPA/HSPA+ network. Keeps manufacturing/development costs down, and gives Apple a bit of a marketing edge, while keeping the iPhone a full "world phone".

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Please do realize that on att's expanding 3G network, you have EDGE (~500+ Kbps) to fall back on, not a rocket sled, but not a granny + walker either. With VZ their "3G" network can't do voice and data at the same time, and if you're in a shadow or other less served area, you get I think a max of 150kbps data speeds.

Point is, att's real network is EDGE, its wireless broadband/voice is 3G GSM, and they are increasing the throughput on that 3G network to the lower end of "wimax" or "4G" speeds. Also, it should be noted that the areas served by the v-cast tv feature, is really the only parts of the network that can compare with att's over all network capability.

My one friend has a VZ droid (dunno which version) and they want an iPhone because of the data speeds and wonky GPS found on vz's network.

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not 4g

ahem. it's not 4g.

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