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00000 | Not really a price drop They're just reversing the price insane increase they had taken. When they went to 3G they took a 50% price increase (from $20 to $30) on the data portion of the iphone plan while at the same time dropping the free texting that was included in the old EDGE plan. The move to 3G ended up being a double price increase. | |
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The original iPhone had a $20 fee for 200 texts + unlimited web. and additonal texts were $0.05.
The 3g phone was $30 for internet only +$5 for 200 texts, and additional texts are $0.10
This is the only reason I have stuck with my original iPhone, its more than $15 less each month.
So when compared to the original iPhone, the new one would still cost $5 more a month.
If they do a $10 price drop and make a reasonable cap on the new plan, (oh say 1gb)(I have used less than 4gb of data on my original iPhone in 2 years.) then I will buy the new iPhone in a flash.
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Elmhurst, NY | Good But thats still not enough to convince me to stoop over. | |
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kudos:1 | Re: Good And ATT's network still sucks, with 3g speeds as slow as EDGE in more populous areas. | |
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4 edits | Re: Good DSLR always reports all my AT&T 3G cards as Verizon. AT&T and VZW are members of some WDSPCO wireless co-op which is what my 3G IPs all resolve to.
I thought it was some kind of roaming, but others mentioned that is not possible »Re: What IP does frys dot com resolve to | |
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Excellent 3G coverage here in Birmingham, Al. FULL BARS everywhere. | |
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4 edits | Re: Good You can pick ANY service and find people complaining about speed issues. Even here we have reviews of people having issues with FiOS. The fact is that a blanket statement of AT&T 3G speeds being slow is horseshit. I routinely see 1500-2000kbps down and 900-1500kbps up from my AT&T 3G service.
And yes, with DSLR myvzw can cover AT&T as they are part of the same Wireless Co-Op WDSPCO »www.wdspco.org/ . Whenever I pull an IP from that Co-Op, DSLR says it's Verizon Wireless. It is certainly not that my AT&T cards are magically using EVDO.
Just did 2 more speed tests today with my AT&T 3G service and IP resolves directly to AT&T Business and as you can see I'm getting excellent throughput.
Depending on where I am in the county I may or may not get the coop but speeds are always fast.
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Someone posted their speed test, want me to post mine? Or are you afraid you might be wrong  . | |
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1 edit | said by cchhat01:But thats still not enough to convince me to stoop over. Aside from any AT&T issues and speeds, the big problem I have observed with friends who have the iPhone is how mediocre it is as a phone. Sound quality is poor & the phone drops calls.
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kudos:12 | Re: Good said by ThrowDemsOut:said by cchhat01:But thats still not enough to convince me to stoop over. Aside from and AT&T issues and speeds, the big problem I have observed with friends who have the iPhone is how mediocre it is as a phone. Sound quality is poor & the phone drops calls. I've never had sound quality issues, but good lord if calls don't drop more often than crappy rap songs. | |
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Onion, NJ | my thoughts exaclty. They will rob peter, pay paul, and end up charging more. | |
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| Maybe Another Carrier If they want to sell more iPhone's, perhaps they should look at additional carriers becides AT&T. I for one am not willing to scrap my current carrier for AT&T just so I can have an iPhone. I am sure I am not alone in that sentiment.
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|  LuwigiePremium
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East Lansing, MI | Re: Maybe Another Carrier Uhm, if AT&T wants to sell more phones they should consider more carriers? This applies to the network carrier's prices not the hardware manufacturer's. | |
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Elmhurst, NY | You know what grinds my gears... When AT&T sckyrockets the cost of the data plan as it moves to 3G and yet its 3G network is still nowhere close to its 2G network in coverage and call quality... The sheer thought just baffles me...
Its like they just want my money... And folks hungry enough for the Iphone are just going to cha-ching their wallets.
And that, people, is what grinds my gears! Back to you Tom!
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|  PhoenixDown-- Wants FIOSPremium
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kudos:1 | Re: You know what grinds my gears... And their 2G network still isn't anywhere as reliable as their old (original ATTWS) TDM network. I get dropped calls in the weirdest of places. | |
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|  NerdtalkerWorking Hard, Or Hardly Working?Premium,MVM
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Tucson, AZ | Bingo. That definitely applies for all the other carriers as well, which iPhone/AT&T customers are quick to also trash on just as readily.
Until we have someone driving around doing speedtests and populating a map+database of some kind (which would be amazing), I'm sticking to only talking about the area around me and the experience I've had with devices I've tested. I suggest everyone do the same so we all stop spreading the FUD.
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| Drop the price, NOW! I would love for AT&T to drop the price of the data plan. I pay $30 a month for EDGE speeds. I was told 3G would be in my area the first quarter of 2009. Of course, that didn't happen.
I recently canceled my data plan because of the slow speeds and they forced it back on me 3 weeks later since it's a "requirement" to have.
This price drop would go a long way in deciding whether or not I keep the iPhone (and my AT&T service). | |
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The damn iPhone could fart sunshine, but if I have to use AT&T, I'll go without. Their coverage here for phone calls just doesn't match other providers. | |
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| | | Re: Perhaps Bingo! That's the reason the Blackberry Curve outsold the iPhone last quarter - it's available on multiple carriers - four, I think. Newsflash to Apple: if you want more iPhone sales, let T-Mobile, Verizon, and Sprint sell it. | |
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| Re: Perhaps said by soccerguy:Bingo! That's the reason the Blackberry Curve outsold the iPhone last quarter - it's available on multiple carriers - four, I think. Newsflash to Apple: if you want more iPhone sales, let T-Mobile, Verizon, and Sprint sell it. The article speaks of AT&T and APPLE not being happy with sales. I don't think AT&T will be thrilled if Apple starts selling iPhone's on Verizon. | |
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kudos:3 | I agree..
.. and further, if they want to sell more iPhones, they also can:
1) Drop the price of the over rated hardware.
2) Stop the "our phone is a premium phone" crap. It's a phone!
3) Stop the BS that I hear from the reps of "let me see if you "qualify" to have an iPhone".. this isn't a country club after all. When I heard that one day, I said "don't bother" as I already didn't like the attitude towards the product.
They need to stop trying to be exclusive & elusive that only certain people can have them. They need to stop acting like they're selling you a car. The requirements alone to get a phone makes any sane person stop and think twice automatically if this is really a good thing. I think apple has already saturated the market with all the mindless followers that think they provide oxygen into the atmosphere and with out one they can't breath. | |
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Scarsdale, NY | Re: Perhaps 1) You can get refurbs for $99, I don't see them getting any cheaper.
3) I assume you mean when they check if you are far enough into your ATT contract for them to give you the discount on the phone. This is no different than what they would do with any phone offered by any carrier. | |
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kudos:3 | Re: Perhaps 1) Some people don't want used phones.. and the $99 refurb still holds a pricey contract and all the rest of the restrictions last I checked.. the $99 refurb is still new line only, not upgrade in contract. (Unless you know something I don't that Best Buy told me last week - and they were not $99 there)
3) No.. you assumed incorrectly. They flat out tell you "Let me see if you *qualify* for an iPhone"... the key word being "qualify".. that *attitude* alone was enough to piss me off and turn me off. Last I checked, this is America. In America, everything has a price so they need to drop the "high 'n might" attitude over the iPhone. Before she could continue on about "let me see if you qualify".. I said.. "qualify? ... I have money, does that qualify me?" .. she said "We have to see if you're able to purchase one".. flat out. Got that from two different reps. Further, when I called customer service regarding my black berry and razer phones, one lady wouldn't even discuss prices at all.. you had to "go into your nearest ATT store for that information".. I don't make this stuff up.
I just wanted to know prices, how it would affect me on my account, etc. ... there was no way in hell I was driving 17 miles to an ATT store to find out what they could tell me on the phone.
Plain and simple, they're playing games with these phones and that has to stop. The fact they are "tweaking" their product and services to gain more customers with their current model tells plenty about how tight they are trying to control a market in a capitalistic market place.
If or when they stop playing games, I may make the move from the iTouch to the iPhone.. that is unless Sprint gets the Pre out first. | |
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When are they going to learn... just be transparent. And if you want a more mass market appeal, price as such. And have a reliable, broad network with enough capacity to keep customers satisfied with your service. It's not rocket science. | |
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| Re: $20 for data with messaging included said by Flibbetigibbet :
A GENUINE $10 drop in the data plan coupled with a return to a minimal (200?) messaging plan included (in other words, back to pre-3G pricing) would push me over the edge to buying an iPhone. $30 a month plus another $5 (minimum) for messaging isn't worth it.
I would love to see texting included in this package. I pay $50 additional a month on my $39.99 plan just for texting and data. I know, I know.. I choose to have it. | |
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AT&T is getting worse not better, it is by far the worst I have seen ever. I have Verizon for my work cell and it works everywhere and my iphone works in less than half those places. I love the iPhone but Apple should have opened it to other carriers that actually supply good coverage. | |
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| | | Re: AT&T Price Drop said by Crypto_Bug:I have had AT&T for years but when my contract for the iphone is up in August I am dumping the service and going to Verizon and the Blackberry. AT&T is getting worse not better, it is by far the worst I have seen ever. I have Verizon for my work cell and it works everywhere and my iphone works in less than half those places. I love the iPhone but Apple should have opened it to other carriers that actually supply good coverage. I hate this when people generalize. Just because [insert your model phone] doesn't get good signal in some areas doesn't mean the carrier sucks, you ever think its the manufacturer? I have an old Motorola V180 (which Cingular gave to me for free back in the day), worked like a charm for me no signal issues. My $400 AT&T Tilt's reception sucks in many offices I walk into. My $400 AT&T Fuze is fairly good, at least better than the Tilt.
So, before you start saying "AT&T is horrible because I get no reception" examine the type of phone you have first before you start to point the fingers. And Do some research also, because I know iPhone users did suffer from a reception issue awhile back.... | |
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To AT&T: If you want to get my money for 2 years with a locked phone, give me the iPhone for free. | |
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kudos:1 | death of the iphone The iPhone is a status symbol, the concept still has alot of life left in it. Look at what Motorola did with the Razr, they began releasing it on all carriers, then made budget and premium versions, and it all fizzeled out since even grandma and the day laborer on the corner has one which killed any status it ever had.
The reason the iPhone sells is its brand name alone, many companies have their iPhone clones out, but sales are still the same. Its the same reason why someone spends $1000s on a handbag that would be $10s in Chinatown with very similar looks, if thats all they cared about.
The best strategy would be to add a few software-only features, and call it the iPhone 3.5G or 4G (if you give it a theoretical HSDPA download speed increase, even though you'll never hit 7.2 mbps on ATT). Partner with some ridiculously overpriced brand names from Nordstrom and Neiman Marcus to make "limited edition" iPhones. And be sure to do plenty of price increases. The recession only makes the important/rich people hoard money in their checking accounts, there is no reason why they can't use it right now. Apple's business model is based on its name brand, cost, unobtainability, social statement, and decent focus group testing. Sometimes they combine existing technologies, or make existing technologies have mass market appeal. Volume and price decreases would destroy what separates Apple from Dell and HP. | |
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kudos:3 | Re: death of the iphone said by patcat88:The iPhone is a status symbol, the concept still has alot of life left in it. Look at what Motorola did with the Razr, they began releasing it on all carriers, then made budget and premium versions, and it all fizzeled out since even grandma and the day laborer on the corner has one which killed any status it ever had. In the east, the iPhone is considered a piece of crap and they give them away.
But honestly, I have to disagree with you on the Razr.. they were over rated, for one, and Motorola also started to pull back on their mobile phone development in favor of broadband products. The razr could only go so far.
Personally, the iPhone is a good phone, but still, they're making it difficult for people to get. The phone has endless possibilities as of now.. that alone will keep the phone alive.. that and they're incessant and continual slight upgrades and improvements. | |
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Not having copy and paste sucks. and not having picture msg. making me go to viewmymessage.com with username alkfjlkejrq324 password alkjelr3u24er is retarded. and you can't got back and forth looking at the msg with that retarded username and password. I do get a lot of dropped calls. First week I had the phone I had more dropped calls than I ever did with Tmobile thanks includes when I had voicestream.
Yes they say some of this is coming soon. but come on your suppose to be a leading computer company and you don't release a phone with copy and paste or flash or video camera.
And don't tell me it wasn't avaiable cause it was you just had to hack the phone in order to use the stuff.
Apple is behind once again.
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kudos:3 | Re: pricing Behind, yes... cut and paste and picture messaging was a no brainer.. but comes out in June with software 3. | |
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1 edit | AT&T has always done well by me I picked up my iphone a while back (or it seems that way) when they first came out and it's been just as good as any other phone I have ever owned (I personally prefer it to crackberry's) and the reason I left my previous provider (Verizon) was due primarily to customer service. In my area vzw definitely has the best reception, but their service reps (in my experience) are some of the absolute worst. I was just as content to take my vote (money) and use it elsewhere.
I have called AT&T a fair amount of times (I dunno maybe 5-10 over the course of a year and a half/two years) and every time the people I dealt with provided a higher level of service than I had been accustomed to in general. I work in support so when it comes to "good" support I am pretty picky but AT&T has treated me pretty well so far, maybe I should call in and see if that still stands lol
Reception on the other hand while faint in some areas (and somewhat expected) is lacking but in most of the places I travel (in or around boston MA and southern NH) is fine, I don't have 3G (I have the original phone) but I have a few friends that do and they seem to think their 3G speeds are acceptable, not blazing mind you but not sluggish either. | |
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join:2001-10-03
Davenport, FL | $100/month for cell service It still amounts to $100/month bills for wireless service, though... on just one phone.
And AT&T won't really "sell" a family plan where only ONE person in the group would have the iPhone.
In my situation, I got myself and my roomie on one of those plans with two regular phones. He wouldn't want an iPhone, whereas I would. However, the only "family" plans that AT&T will sell involve getting two iPhones, and paying an even more inflated fee that would double what I'm paying for regular wireless service now.
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| Re: $100/month for cell service said by C0deZer0:It still amounts to $100/month bills for wireless service, though... on just one phone. And AT&T won't really "sell" a family plan where only ONE person in the group would have the iPhone. In my situation, I got myself and my roomie on one of those plans with two regular phones. He wouldn't want an iPhone, whereas I would. However, the only "family" plans that AT&T will sell involve getting two iPhones, and paying an even more inflated fee that would double what I'm paying for regular wireless service now. That's total crap.
I personally know of two friends, a couple, who have a family plan with shared minutes. One just got an iPhone and added the required unlimited data, and the other stayed on the same voice plan with the shared minutes. I know this for a fact because I was there when he got his iPhone. He also got his 17% corporate discount on the entire plan. They have a 600 minute plan or something similar. It's way less than $100 for two phones, shared minutes, and one of them being an iPhone. | |
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I have a 20% cooperate discount on my plan and its well over 100 dollars
I have a family share 550 minute plan with 2 phones
1.) iPhone 3G
2.) Samsung Eternity
The 550 plan costs 59.99 I get 20% of that which drops it down to
47.99
The iPhone data plan costs $30 period no discounts on that
So that plan alone with just my iPhone having data features with NO TEXTING on either phone, with a 20% discount comes to $77.99 before any taxes, with the taxes (they will change based on location) the total comes to $101.56 (Allegheny County, PA)
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"It's way less than $100 for two phones, shared minutes, and one of them being an iPhone."
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Now my true cost and I think this is what the bulk of the people have
550 Shared Minutes $47.99
iPhone Data Plan $30.00
Samsung Data Plan $15.00
Texting for Familys $30.00
Grand Total before Taxes $122.99
My May 2009 bill was $147.95
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