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Seattle, WA | Re: Noooo... said by rustydusty:Not a slide phone! They are all garbage. Haven't had a slide phone that didnt' stop sliding or break altogether. While I will say that the sliding mechanism is just one more on the list of things to go wrong, I will not say they're garbage. If people would quit treating their phones like toys or slide hard, etc, I would venture to say that the vast majority of them wouldn't break. I've had several sliding phones and even flip phones. NONE of them broke on me. | |
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| Re: Noooo... said by Steve B:said by rustydusty:Not a slide phone! They are all garbage. Haven't had a slide phone that didnt' stop sliding or break altogether. While I will say that the sliding mechanism is just one more on the list of things to go wrong, I will not say they're garbage. If people would quit treating their phones like toys or slide hard, etc, I would venture to say that the vast majority of them wouldn't break. I've had several sliding phones and even flip phones. NONE of them broke on me. I've had a couple, they all got stuff in the sliders just from being in my pccket and broke. I'm not hard on my phones. Its rare for any of my phones to ever get a scratch on them. | |
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| |  ThrowDemsOutIf you can't convince 'em, confuse 'emPremium
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1 edit | said by Steve B:said by rustydusty:Not a slide phone! They are all garbage. Haven't had a slide phone that didnt' stop sliding or break altogether. While I will say that the sliding mechanism is just one more on the list of things to go wrong, I will not say they're garbage. If people would quit treating their phones like toys or slide hard, etc, I would venture to say that the vast majority of them wouldn't break. I've had several sliding phones and even flip phones. NONE of them broke on me. I've had a Palm Pre for over a year and have had no problem with the slide keyboard. In fact , except for the chrome trim, the new Torch has the same dimensions and look as the Palm Pre.
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| Re: Noooo... said by ThrowDemsOut:said by Steve B:said by rustydusty:Not a slide phone! They are all garbage. Haven't had a slide phone that didnt' stop sliding or break altogether. While I will say that the sliding mechanism is just one more on the list of things to go wrong, I will not say they're garbage. If people would quit treating their phones like toys or slide hard, etc, I would venture to say that the vast majority of them wouldn't break. I've had several sliding phones and even flip phones. NONE of them broke on me. I've had a Palm Pre for over a year and have had no problem with the slide keyboard. In fact , except for the chrome trim, the new Torch has the same dimensions and look as the Palm Pre. [att=1,l][att=2,l] Well good for you. Personally, I don't like it. I also don't like it cause it's always failed for me. I'm sure some have good luck with them, but I've had no issues with my curve touch screen. I'll take a touchscreen over a slide phone anyday. To each their own though. | |
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join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | Re: Noooo... While I haven't tried out the BB Torch, I can only 'hope' that the keypad quality (good old Canadian quality) is better than that of the Pre. Since RIM has been making BB's with keypads forever, I can only hope they did it right.
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| neftv
join:2000-10-01
Broomall, PA | They probably going to cripple that phone too so it don't matter. | |
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join:2007-01-03
Chatham, ON
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1 edit | Next in the news AT&T grabs the exclusivity for the new Droids.
Oh noes, what are we going to do!
Seriously though, not funny. | |
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| en102Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | Re: Next in the news I suspect that the only real reason that AT&T is getting a lot of these devices, is that many are pushing GSM / HSPA chipsets with GSM 850/900/1800/1900 and HSPA 850/1900/2100 for the 'global' market vs.
CDMA 850/1900 US primarily (Sprint/VZW)
HSPA supporting AWS vs. 850/1900 (T-Mobile).
HTC/Samsung/LG tend to support them all, while others (Apple / Motorola) have been picking their bands. RIM traditionally supports (or supported) all, including iDEN (yeah - i had a BB 7100i).
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America Reviews:
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| creative series # there I'm getting sick of the same model #'s for totally different things...
A Blackberry 9800
An nVidia 9800
ATI had a Radeon 9800 
Why AT&T's network though? Ugh.
Gripes aside, this sounds cool:
It features tabs for accessing multiple sites simultaneously, pinch to zoom for easy navigation and an auto-wrap text zoom feature that can intelligently wrap text in a column while maintaining the placement of a page's key elements (simply double-tap on the BlackBerry Torch). | |
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| en102Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | Re: creative series # there Well, both Blackberry (RIM) and ATI are both from southern Ontario in Canada 
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|  2007 - 2008 called : they want their hardware back !!
- same screen as the Bold 9700
- same slow pos ARM11 CPU as the original iPhone 2G from 2007 (absolutely inexcusable)
- WORSE battery than the Bold 9700
Basically, it's 2007 - 2008 era hardware in 2010, and they want to sell it for the same price as an iPhone 4 ?! What are RIM smoking these days ?!!
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| ThrowDemsOutIf you can't convince 'em, confuse 'emPremium
join:2002-03-03
Mullica Hill, NJ
kudos:4 | Re: 2007 - 2008 called : they want their hardware back !! said by adisor19:Let's see here : - same screen as the Bold 9700 - same slow pos ARM11 CPU as the original iPhone 2G from 2007 (absolutely inexcusable) - WORSE battery than the Bold 9700 Basically, it's 2007 - 2008 era hardware in 2010, and they want to sell it for the same price as an iPhone 4 ?! What are RIM smoking these days ?!! Adi What they came out with is about a year behind what other vendors are offering in the way of processing power. Unless the new Blackberry OS is much more efficient than iOS4 and Android 2.2 and WebOS, they have just released a phone that will be fairly unresponsive in running apps.
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Cortland, NY | Re: 2007 - 2008 called : they want their hardware back !! Unless they rebuilt it, OS6 is gonna suck. 5 was a patched over build on the buggy 4 code. The original iPhone has 384MB RAM..My brand new 8530 only has 256MB..and its 2010! | |
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join:2006-10-19
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kudos:1 | Re: 2007 - 2008 called : they want their hardware back !! The original iPhone has 128mb of RAM. | |
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| | | | | | Re: 2007 - 2008 called : they want their hardware back !! Thanks for the clarification: I found a webpage:
iPhone 2G = 128MB
iPhone 3G = 128MB
iPhone 3GS = 256MB
iPhone 4 = 512MB
iPod Touch 1G = 128MB
iPod Touch 2G = 128MB
iPod Touch 3G = 256MB
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join:2006-08-30
HarperLand | Go back to the drawing board They missed the boat again, this is not going to touch the iPhone or some of the new Droid phones.
Try again Jim.
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join:2004-09-04
East Lansing, MI | Boo AT&T I was on the edge with staying with the BlackBerry. I've had them for nearly 7 years now, and love them to death, but they are just loosing their focus. All this stuff they are coming up with are incremental changes, and are nothing 'must have'. Their browser still dosen't have Flash, their only programming model is Java (which I think is why there are so few apps for them), and their half-assed integration with social media seems like it was come up over a weekend, rather than well-thought out.
Some of the bread-and-butter of BlackBerry was that the models were on EVERY network. You could choose the best network for what you were doing or what you wanted, and the device was just there. There is a strong community around them, but that is quickly dying. Despite a few cosmetic changes, this is the same OS as 4.5 which came out 4 years ago.
BlackBerry needs to woo the developer community like Android and Apple have done, or they will loose out forever. Their phones have always been solid as PHONES (something the Androids and iPhone users cannot say), but more and more people are demanding more from their phones.
I don't know -- I guess I was just expecting so much more from RIM for this lastest OS and phone. They should be seeing the writing on the wall... and it's the shape of a green little robot. | |
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Since I like to vote with my wallet, I guess I'll be giving my money to Verizon or Sprint and get me one of them nifty 'roids phones. | |
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| | | Re: not holding out on iphone if you're voting with your wallet you're gonna pay a prem. with VZW so you should just stay with ATT and pay them the same as you would VZW. | |
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I've never had billing issues with AT&T, nor have the various people that operate with Sprint. Pick wisely if you're going to go into a contract! | |
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| | EPIC FAIL AT&T
enough said. | |
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|  MSaukMSaukPremium
join:2002-01-17
Sandy, UT
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| Re: EPIC FAIL ATT the most expensive plans with the worst 3g coverage on the planet! Yeaaaaaa
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| | en102Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | Re: EPIC FAIL I thought that would be Nextel (as they don't have any 3G coverage), with T-Mobile 2nd (but catching up). | |
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Onion, NJ | Re: EPIC FAIL said by en102:I thought that would be Nextel (as they don't have any 3G coverage), with T-Mobile 2nd (but catching up). there are 3G Nextel phones, just that they are not iden.
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Most expensive I've dealt with is Verizon, and worst 3G coverage I would shoot my vote for T-Mobile. | |
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1 edit | Re: EPIC FAIL said by LightS:AT&T doesn't have the most expensive, nor does it have the worst 3g coverage. Most expensive I've dealt with is Verizon, and worst 3G coverage I would shoot my vote for T-Mobile. around here, t-mobile 3G has spotty coverage at best.
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| | | | | | Re: EPIC FAIL I don't even know anyone who uses T-Mobile where I used to live. I just moved a month ago, so things may be different now, but where I used to live, I heard nonstop complaints about the service. :/ | |
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T-Mobile seems generally cheaper than ATT though. | |
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join:2001-12-14
Fayetteville, WV | ugly That thing is ugly as hell,I think I'm gonna stick with my bold | |
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join:2002-01-30
Valley Stream, NY | Exclusive = Dead Success of android can be attributed to open platform. Apps working across most carriers does sound good.
Anyway, I was looking at it just now and considered getting it, but not on ATT's network. I used to be RIM fan, now, android won my devotion.
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join:2001-10-22
Villanova, PA | Couple Notes 1. AT&T's exclusivity on this isn't like the iphone deal. Basing this on the first Bold launch. But does it matter since TMO is the only other GSM carrier?
2. Andorid apps are written in Java, same as BlackBerry.
3. Sure the proc isn't the fastest on the market, but just because your android has a 1Ghz proc in it doesn't mean it is running at that speed all the time. All these mobile phones have adaptive rate CPU's. Since Android spawns a new JVM for every app, it needs a whole lot more horsepower. You really have to use the device to see how it works. Remember how bad the G1 was? It would skip just playing music! The hardware at the time was not adequate to run the OS.
4. I agree the resolution could be higher. No argument there.
5. 512 MB of RAM is standard for smartphones these days.
6. This phone can be used completely without the sliding keyboard. The screen also rotates 180 degrees for lefties. This is not the Pre.
At least try the thing out in the store before making assertions that this thing is crap and the software sucks.
I would say the iPhone is too simplistic. Can I get a menu in an app somewhere? And Android sucks for Exchange integration.
Nothing is perfect and each platform excels at different things.
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| Re: Couple Notes True that.
Hopefully AT&T will pick everything up, because I've had AT&T and been happy with them.
People need to stop going with bandwagons, and buy what's good "for them." I know far too many iPhone users who have purchased them because everybody else has one, yet they complain that they have to exit a program to check something else, etc.
I don't know -- Maybe multitasking in OS4 is better. Either way, people don't buy according to needs anymore. | |
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join:2009-01-01
Brooklyn, NY
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| They make a touch screen phone for media people then keep it at a 4:3 aspect ratio.
What the fuck? Really?
With a 3.7" AMOLED screen that is almost 16:9 on my incredible, i can justify not having a real PMP like my cowon o2 or the new V5. But with the storms, and this one, they still miss the point. At least change the form factor a little bit.
4:3 is so 1989.
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join:2007-01-03
Pointe-Claire, QC
kudos:22
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| Does "proprietary" have a future ? RIM phones have business practices with the networks that result in different plans, requirement that your email go through the RIM proprietary servers etc.
I think RIM needs to think of a migration to truly "open" phones that support SMTP/POP/IMAP and which can be sold "unlocked" without any contract and without RIM getting monthly revenues from networks/subscribers.
Apple is moving this way (they have begun to sell unlocked Iphones in Canada, as well as sell locked ones (they are in fact locked in the stores while the customer waits). | |
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| | | Re: Does "proprietary" have a future ? said by jfmezei:I think RIM needs to think of a migration to truly "open" phones that support SMTP/POP/IMAP and which can be sold "unlocked" I agree with this in principle, but.....
From what I've been seeing BBs use *significantly* less data for the same content, from emails to browsing to streaming music. There seems to be quite a bit of efficiency to be had, which is intriguing, at least to me. With "everybody" (I'm luckily still Alltel, so not me) coming out with tiered data packages with smaller ones being 2GB/mo., having a BB could allow you to be on a lesser plan and actually save you money. Just a thought.......
I'm new to BB as of 3-ish months ago. I do agree that their email system leaves a lot to be desired. The push email is great--works awesome and I love it. I even like being able to set up emails on their website. But not seeing old emails, not seeing folders, not posting my sent messages to my sent folder, and not synchronizing for diddly (I'm at a computer all day, I want to use my email reader). Give me a friggin break. | |
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| Two things - confirms att losing iphone exclusive and BB ... This confirms to me that ATT is losing the iPhone exclusive soon, else why push so hard a BB when the iPhone is selling pretty damn well?
Second thing, though I have an iPhone a few years and love it, I have had several BlackBerrys that were very well built. If they have a slide out, I have no doubt it works well.
The BB keyboard is still one I can type on much faster than the iPhone ( and I have had it for a few years ).
If a BB had the surfing ability of a iPhone, and a real keyboard, i think they are finally on to something good.
Disclaimer: I have big fingers that work well on the BB, not so much on the iPhone.
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| | FAIL Wow did RIM screw this one up big time. It is not worth the money and even if they do sell some how could have have chosen to make it an AT&T exclusive. That was by far the stupidest decision they have ever made. This is doomed to failure especially on the epic failure of a network that is AT&T.
Our company used to use Blackberrys but we have dumped them in favor of android o/s based phones. In conjunction with the Nitrodesk software on each phone and activesync there is jusy no need for overpriced Blackberry Enterprise Server software running on a dedicated server.
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Climax, MI
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| Re: FAIL »na.blackberry.com/eng/devices/bl···ions.jsp
Doesn't show the processor. Why do manufactures hide what they're using?
I never understood why Apple did it either. They don't even show which battery is used, which is just silly.
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Pointe-Claire, QC
kudos:22 Reviews:
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| An exclusive deal with AT&T may not be so stupid after all.
If this deal lasts more than a year or two, it would eliminate the costs of developping a legacy CDMA version of its phone for Verizon/Sprint. Canada is no longer a market for new CDMA phones as Bell/Telus are moving their customer base to GSM/HSPA,
Verizon will soon be starting the migration of its customer base to LTE, so its demand for CDMA phones will drop very abruptly once this happens.
So this excusive deal with AT&T may be a convenient excuse to justify its decision to not develop a CDMA version of that handset, having judged the CDMA market to be dying soon enough.
An exclusive with AT&T also means that RIM (like Apple) doesn't have to add yet another frequency (1700) to support T-Mobile and the couple of new entrants in Canada. (This allows them to focus on worldwide frequencies which represent a far greater market potential than the whole USA market.)
The lack of new CDMA handsets will help nudge Sprint to announce the inevitable decision to move to LTE. | |
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