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AT&T Network Burp
Takes DSL and new iPhone users offline...
by Karl Bode 08:57AM Tuesday Jul 03 2007
AT&T customers in BellSouth territory didn't have a very good night of connectivity, as users in our AT&T forum will attest. Speed tests showed connections slowed to a crawl, and users say the network status page didn't offer much insight. As ComputerWorld notes, new iPhone users also had problems accessing the company's EDGE wireless network. An AT&T spokesman confirmed the outage but didn't give an explanation.
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extreme100
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Coloma, MI

Is their press release dept burping too?

I'm sure one of our resident telco sockpuppets will enlighten us!
notwrth10

join:2007-03-03
1001EB

Re: Is their press release dept burping too?

Another post brought to you by comcast, get their service today at »www.comcast.com

CPM
Broadband, DSL, cable

join:2001-08-24
Brooklyn, NY

iphone

Well, It would be funny, if the iphone bombed because of bad service of AT&T and Apple has a 5 year contract with AT&T.

I see the smoke coming from Steve Jobs.
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Mactron
el Camino Real
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PRK

Great Fun

While it's all great fun to tease the iEverything Fanboys about Apple's poor choices implementing the iPhone. Remember all networks go south from time to time. The timing of this outage just makes for more fun teasing the iFanboys, nothing more.
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inteller
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join:2003-12-08
Tulsa, OK

These outages are just theoretical...

I mean, isn't that what Steve jobs would say?
dpfreak

join:2001-12-27
Montgomery, AL

That's what happened....

It was real annoying last night, about 7pm the internet went away and it didn't come back for over an hour. Even after that I felt like I was back on Dial up with my Bellsouth Xtreme 6.0 service. It was about useless all night long, not that it is not normally that way all the time.

In fact it really is close, seriously, it is impossible to even be a gamer on the BS network. The best pings I get to any server, any game, is in the 90ms range.
It really, really sucks.....

iLive4Fusion
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join:2006-07-13

Re: That's what happened....

Same here, actually mine went completely down here in hoover so I had to use DIalup

morbo
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new NSA secret room???


maybe when AT&T was installing a new NSA secret room for BellSouth area, someone forgot to reconnect that orange cord.
NewMariner

join:2005-06-24

Re: new NSA secret room???

Do they sell enough foil for that hat you wear or was this years of scavenging the dumpsters for tinfoil?
Enlightener

join:2006-01-28
Cedar Park, TX

Re: new NSA secret room???

You aren't paranoid if they really are out to get you. And there has been plenty of evidence to that effect...
Time4aNAP
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join:2007-04-09
Des Plaines, IL

Re: new NSA secret room???

said by Enlightener:

You aren't paranoid if they really are out to get you. And there has been plenty of evidence to that effect...
True that.

When you think about it, it does seem as plausible as any other reason. Maybe even more plausible, since they didn't have a pre-prepared lame excuse. "We can neither confirm nor deny the cause of the outage." LOL..
NewMariner

join:2005-06-24
said by Enlightener:

You aren't paranoid if they really are out to get you. And there has been plenty of evidence to that effect...
Really? And what evidence might that be? If your specifically talking about the whistleblower mark klien I wouldnt call that evidence..it could simply be a disgruntled ex-employee who thinks he knows something.

If you remember correctly, there is no evidence that has been released to the public. Everything is under a sealed court order...

I prefer to think your innocent until proven guilty, obviously, you have already judged, condemned, and executed ATT without any proof.

Before you go off on me being a "telco fanboy" I am not. I simply state that there is no proof either way at this point. No proof that we have anyway. The government knows what they have done and what the phone companies have done. If wrong doing has occured, then by all means let the proof come to light, and burn at the stake if need be...but not until that proof comes to light..
Enlightener

join:2006-01-28
Cedar Park, TX

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Re: new NSA secret room???

There is certainly enough evidence to suggest probably cause in suspecting AT&T being complicit with the government. You are a fool if you think otherwise.
Cogdis

join:2007-03-26
Floral Park, NY
said by NewMariner:

I prefer to think your innocent until proven guilty, obviously, you have already judged, condemned, and executed ATT without any proof.
I was under the impression that the administration admitted the spying program and that the courts deemed it unconstitutional.

I think the administration appealed it too.

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Forget innocent until proven guilty if your connected enough you get your sentence commuted because it was excessive for the judge to follow federal sentencing guidlines. And there may yet be an 11th hour pardon before a certain term expires.

"The Patriot Act - Turning citizens into suspects since 2001"

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MadMacHatter
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join:2004-09-30
Colorado Springs, CO

Design Issues on AT&T's side probably.

My guess is AT&T has some stupid design for their AAA complex. In a ISP design as large as theirs it should be broken up into smaller areas so you do not lose the entire network. To have the entire network go down in this fashion for one device sounds like user error on the AAA database that killed off authentication for a specific device. The only problem I have with that is I've never heard of AAA being used to ban devices.

*shrug* sabotage

Course AT&T and company are known for network wide outages for various reasons.

Apple prides itself with being the best, but they locked their shiny new device down on possibly the worst cellular company in America.

I can agree with the price of the device. What I can not agree with is carrier locking. Apple could have sold in all their channel partners and would have received near or better product sales coverage than just sticking with AT&T. They could have negotiated features with the cellular companies as well. Let them handle customer service for cellular related features and have them handoff for anything else.

Never made sense how they rushed into this product and never stood back and checked their alternatives.
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CMoore2004
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Jonesville, MI

Re: Design Issues on AT&T's side probably.

Would they have gotten as much money, though? I'm willing to bet AT&T paid plenty to be the exclusive carrier. This isn't about being innovative. It's about money, as it always is.
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quote:
In a ISP design as large as theirs it should be broken up into smaller areas so you do not lose the entire network.
You mean kind of like when Comcast went down nationwide a couple years back because someone had the bright idea to centralize the DNS servers?
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Devistater

join:2004-02-13
Clovis, CA

Re: Design Issues on AT&T's side probably.

That only happened once???

Alpine
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Atlanta, GA

What!??!

No "net neutrality" accusations?!!? Say it ain't so!!!



Adam
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Here
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of course we all know

It's so much better to speculate blindly instead of clicking a link to the forum posts detailing info about the nature of the failure.

RIRWIN1983

join:2005-08-30
Columbus, OH

Not Juet Bellsouth region....

Up in ameritech region we had alot of the same issues last night and the night before, requiring rebooting the modem. Sounds like either planned maintence gone wrong, or a failure somewhere in their backbone, as we had sync and route, just a VERY VERY slow route! took almost 3-5 minutes just to get yahoo mail to load up.

NormanS
I gave her time to steal my mind away
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join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
kudos:12

Re: Not Juet Bellsouth region....

I lost synch this A.M. But it wasn't an AT&T outage, it was a PG&E outage.

odreian615

join:2006-01-18
Chicago, IL

call 6 times in 2 days

TO RENEW A CONTRACT

pokesph
It Is Almost Fast
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Sacramento, CA
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At&t..

It seems more then a few areas and services were affected.. most of the west coast's Comcast users that route through AT&T went down as well.. (though only for approx 40 mins)

I suspect AT&T lost a feeder run somewhere (mid west where it's flooded perhaps?)

koitsu
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join:2002-07-16
Mountain View, CA
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Oh hi, I'm from the Internet.

I was actually on the status bridge AT&T held for this issue yesterday.
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dentman42
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join:2001-10-02
Columbus, OH

Re: Oh hi, I'm from the Internet.

Man, I can't imagine a bridge with that many people being anything less than anarchy...

BSATTGUY

@bls.com
You're only talking 20-30 people max on that bridge. I'm from another BS/ATT department and our bridges fill up all the time for normal boring conference calls...