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AT&T Plays Dirty In Wisconsin
State Attorney General sees no problem...
by Karl Bode Friday 17-Aug-2007 tags: AT&T U-Verse
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User waynemr writes in: "Apparently in Wisconsin, it is OK for astroturf groups to blatantly lie to state legislators without legal ramifications. The pro-state-franchise group TV-4-US gave slick promotional packets to legislators earlier this year indicating that several prominent politicians were in favor of the proposed legislation, when in fact they have been very much opposed to it."

While many of these telco-written "franchise reform" bills have significant problems (stripping eminent domain, the elimination of consumer protections, weak or non-existent build out requirements, the elimination of all public access TV), Wisconsin's recently passed bill was particularly unfriendly to consumers. While the bill was touted as a way to "jump start competition," its sole purpose was to improve AT&T's bottom line.

Local telecom Professor Barry Orton told us he tried to warn locals that AT&T PR group promises of TV competition utopia simply weren't genuine, but he apparently wasn't heard over the roar of AT&T lobbying efforts and their promises of dirt-cheap cable. Keep watching your TV bills over the next few years and let us know when you see those promised TV rate reductions.

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'At&T', 'nuff said.

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Death Star Approaching!

This will be a day long remembered. It has seen the end of truth in government, it will soon see the end of consumer protections.

You may fire when ready...
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Re: Death Star Approaching!

Combine it with the Borg 'Resistance is futile'
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Re: Death Star Approaching!

Naw...that's Microsoft's line...

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seriousluy.... corperate lobbying needs to die

This really is pissing me off... I hate the fact that they lobby with large sums of cash to get their way.... that and lie, cheat, and work the corrupt system.

Corporations should NOT have the same privileges as individuals. Do you know any single person with that much cash? I think not.

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Re: seriousluy.... corperate lobbying needs to die

said by SSX4life:

Corporations should NOT have the same privileges as individuals.
Then quit taxing them. If you can't take your hands off their dirty money, you have to live with their involvement in the political process.
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en102
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Re: seriousluy.... corperate lobbying needs to die

There are only 2 certainties in life...

Death and Taxes. Corporate is no more or less immune from taxes than the rest of us.
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said by footballdude:

said by SSX4life:

Corporations should NOT have the same privileges as individuals.
Then quit taxing them. If you can't take your hands off their dirty money, you have to live with their involvement in the political process.
What does taxation have to do with lobbyists paying off Congre$$ional whores to do their bidding? Newsflash, sparky, corps already pay the barest minimum in taxes and completely suspending those taxes won't suddenly compel them not to have lobbyists anymore. Pull your head out of your ass why don't you.
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Re: seriousluy.... corperate lobbying needs to die

said by major marco:

What does taxation have to do with lobbyists paying off Congre$$ional whores to do their bidding?
Taxation without representation. Can't throw them out of the political process unless you're ready to stop taking their money. And if you don't like whores in Congress, stop electing them.

said by major marco:

Newsflash, sparky, corps already pay the barest minimum in taxes and completely suspending those taxes won't suddenly compel them not to have lobbyists anymore.

No, but you can get away with a law banning corporate lobbying if you stop taxing them.

said by major marco:

Pull your head out of your ass why don't you.
You're such a likable guy

Corporations are all about money. It's why they are created, why they continue to exist, and why they get into politics. You don't blame businesses for looking after their bottom line, that's what they're supposed to do. You blame a government that can't stop itself from raiding the bank accounts of anyone that makes any money and will put up with anything to keep the flow coming in. Wean yourself off of the money trough and you'll then have the moral high ground to ban corporate lobbying.
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Re: seriousluy.... corperate lobbying needs to die

Taken from a site...
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or that many rights. corporation have replaced us as the constituents.

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said by SSX4life:

Corporations should NOT have the same privileges as individuals. Do you know any single person with that much cash? I think not.
Or, do you know of any corporations that are registered to vote?
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uh, AT&T always plays dirty


i'm not surprised. outraged, yes. but surprised? no. it's like if you hear about satan (AT&T) tripping old ladies (legislature) and then urinating on them (the public). yes, satan/AT&T would do that.

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Battle of the Monster Corporations ...

Lowers Taxes ... More Hassle .. Welcome to Wisconsin

We all know ATT didnt do it, it was their 'sub contractors' fault ...

en102
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Re: Battle of the Monster Corporations ...

I heard that enough times, as I had my phone line out for 5 days (5 hours on 1 day, and Friday through Monday for both phone and DSL the 2nd time)... blamed on contractors.

1. There was a short on the line.. POTS out, DSL up. AT&T van 2 houses down, wasn't fixed for 5 hours. Tech cut me over to a different pair.

2. 3 days later, lost POTS and DSL. Called up Friday, and won't be able to fix it until Monday at the earliest. It appears the contractor working on the cross connect moved me back to the old pair, which was now disconnected. AT&T stated that the contractors must of had an outdated sheet listing of the connections, or the update to the AT&T database hadn't gone through to the worksheet in time.
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The blame works it way around

Credit to the;
corporations with money to throw around, or
politicians salivating over more money coming their way, or
people that voted the politicians into office
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It's not ATT.

Normal procedures for corrupt governments that allow "BRIBES" also calling lobbying.
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BOYCOTT the service!!!

Just make sure not a SINGLE consumer subscribes to the service.. stage massive boycott to keep people away from the Wisconsin deployment.... This will make AT&T waste millions in deployment and not have a single customer...

It's simple to talk the talk, but to actually challenge the behemoths and prevent them from acquiring customers would be a much better task than griping about how a company is doing everything in it's power to scam it's way into getting some of cable's market share...

Consumers must be educated about the REAL costs and value of the services rendered.. they are NOT equal to most cable company's cablemodem/voip offerings and have taxes/fees that fatten the bottom line price you pay. When compared to the local cable competitor it's not such a great deal... you must make this hit home to the potential buyers of the service. Also, to be wary of "contracts" for a NEW UNPROVEN service with UNPROVEN reliability/track record.
cwh

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Re: BOYCOTT the service!!!

Well if they must be educated, at least give them truthful information

This service does not require contracts and it does appear to be less expensive than cable. Taxes and fees on this service are the same as what cable charges. So keep that in mind the next time you go about educating people.

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