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AT&T Promises 5,000 Jobs if T-Mobile Approved
As Company's Merger Bid Hits Rocky Waters
AT&T's efforts to convince regulators and the public that their planned $39 billion acquisition of T-Mobile is good for anybody not named AT&T has faced a few rough patches of late, with most of the company's claimed merger benefits not holding up to scrutiny. As such, the company is now promising regulators that they'll bring 5,000 call center jobs back to the United States if the deal is approved. Previous claims of job gains due to the merger didn't hold up to closer inspection, and the deal will likely mean the elimination of up to 20,000 duplicate T-Mobile positions ranging from retail to management. This new promise appears to be AT&T's effort to throw an additional carrot before skeptical regulators, though the promise would be more interesting if AT&T hadn't recently laid off more than double that number of employees from their landline division -- with many more cuts planned over the next few years. While AT&T continues to promise job creation, they're already preparing severance packages for some of the employees they plan to let go.
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canesfan2001
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And...

...layoff 50,000 other employees!
gorehound
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gorehound

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Re: And...

Of Course !!!! Promise hire but not promise a layoff which will happen
ATT = GREED

Martindziad
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yep couldn't of said this better myself

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said by canesfan2001:

...layoff 50,000 other employees!

So true.

The WSJ is reporting that the DOJ will seek to block the merger.

Great news.

syslock
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They will layoff 50,000 then go Ooooooops we laid too many off and bring back many as consultants at 3x's more then they were paying them normally before.

They have done that in the past.

AT&T=SMRT (Duhhhhh)
rob316
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ASS

AT$T=AS$S

trparky
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trparky

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Re: ASS

AT&T = American Thieves & Thugs
Kommie2 (banned)
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They are getting desperate

Its a good sign!
en103
join:2011-05-02

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Re: They are getting desperate

I agree... they're 'starting' to make concessions - as they would have to pay billions if it doesn't go through.

5,000 call center jobs: Is that '5,000 call center jobs' x 1 year or 10 year ?
How many T-Mobile call center jobs are being lost in the process ?
Does that 5,000 call center jobs include the number required to 'move' those jobs from another country back to the US (eg. ~2,000 'movers' that will be there for a couple of months).
tmc8080
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do something unprecedented

block the merger!
and give NO explanation!
and NO appeal recourse!

FFH5
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FFH5

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Re: do something unprecedented

said by tmc8080:

block the merger!
and give NO explanation!
and NO appeal recourse!

Ever hear of the courts? I am sure AT&T has and so has the FCC that has been on the losing side of many cases. There is always recourse - whether legal or political.
Gami00
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Re: do something unprecedented

actually, if both the FCC, and DOJ both refuse the merger, wouldn't that mean there isn't any way around it?

FFH5
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Re: do something unprecedented

said by Gami00:

actually, if both the FCC, and DOJ both refuse the merger, wouldn't that mean there isn't any way around it?

That certainly might give AT&T pause in pursuing the merger. But it isn't the end of it, if AT&T wants to continue the fight. Like I said, there is the courts and there is Congress that could pass a law overriding the DOJ.
Skippy25
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Re: do something unprecedented

Keep dreaming.

kamm
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Only idiots like Rick Perry et al would attempt such an overwrite, such a blatant neglect of American customers and such a glaring corporate ass-licking for money.
Of course, since we have a D-controlled Senate there's no chance to overwrite a double DoJ-FCC rejection, only paid corporate parasites dream of it...

glyder
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Re: do something unprecedented

your a fool that rushes in.considering how the health care law was passed.money and power talk.
tpkatl
join:2009-11-16
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Why not bring the jobs back NOW?

Why not show good faith NOW ? Why is AT&T making promises that they can choose to break later? (Well, that's why - they can break them later).

When did a company have to resort to extortion to do the right thing?

FFH5
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Re: Why not bring the jobs back NOW?

said by tpkatl:

Why not show good faith NOW ? When did a company have to resort to extortion to do the right thing?

Anytime a company deals with government, there is an element of extortion. They want breaks on taxes; loans for building; subsidies for hiring the incompetent uneducated; etc; etc. And the government wants to fool the taxpayers in to thinking that they are helping them somehow. It is a devils compact.

JasonOD
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This is so wrong......

AT&T shouldn't be making promises about how they'll run their business, period. Stating they'll be job gains is deceptive and will bring on investor skepticism and ire.

pnh102
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BS

I heard an ad on the radio this morning that this inevitable and unstoppable merger will "bring T-Mobile back home from the Germans" or something to that effect.

Why is AT&T bothering? Do they really think this merger will not be rubber-stamped?
AndyDufresne
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Re: BS

The are getting more of a headwind than they planned. I'm leaning that Justice Dept. will not give ok on merger and FCC will and then to the courts we go.

hambone42
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I also heard that spot this morning, although I recall the phrasing was "bringing an American company back to America".

Pure propaganda in either form, and it's no accident that this sort of drivel would be on the DC airwaves...
CXMNYC
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simple idea

Here's an idea, ATT should bring all their call center jobs back to the USA. Why just 5,000? Is that the minimum amount needed to give corrupt regulators and politicians cover to rubber stamp this competition killing merger? It is eye opening that ATT would refuse to give the total number of jobs it has out sourced to foreign countries. With millions of Americans unemployed regulators should demand all call center jobs at a merged ATT/T-Mobile be based in USA.
rradina
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Chesterfield, MO

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This Sounds Like Gambling Logic

In my state (MO), the idea of permitting riverboat gambling was sold to the public by claiming that heavy taxes on the industry would provide our schools with much needed revenue. I think folks had visions of rural-district aquatic programs! Unfortunately, once the gambling tax revenue started going in the front door, other state funding disappeared out the back door. It was a zero sum deal.

I believe AT&T's claims are similar in that they'll hire 5,000 call center workers at low wages while eliminating duplicate mid and high wage positions.
modifiy
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I thought they were going to do that a few years back?

Is it just me or does anyone else remember a year or two ago ATT said they would start bringing those jobs back to the states after a a lot of customer complaints of poor service? If that is the case this sounds like another 'we were going to do it anyway' to try to patch up all the issues that have came up with the merger.
LurkerLito
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Wait a sec...

Is it just me or does this sound like a bribe?
axiomatic
join:2006-08-23
Tomball, TX

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Re: Wait a sec...

Winner! But I think it was more akin to... "Jeez guys, they're on to us. Quick, do something humanitarian."
SpectrumDude
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Kernersville, NC

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Why don't they say...

If the merger isn't approved how many they'll lay off.
JerryTimes
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.

So I love how everyone here is against AT&T buying a German company, expanding their AMERICAN company, and employing more AMERICANS. Even if they didn't hire more people, they would make more money which keeps them from having to lay people off.

goalieskates
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said by JerryTimes:

So I love how everyone here is against AT&T buying a German company, expanding their AMERICAN company, and employing more AMERICANS. Even if they didn't hire more people, they would make more money which keeps them from having to lay people off.

Not as much as I love the way you drank their KoolAid. Capitalize AMERICAN one more time, why don't you.

If AT&T can "bring back 5000 jobs" with the merger, they can bring them back without one.
iansltx
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Becaue if you go from two companies to one company there are duplicate positions. Those positions will be cut. AT&T won't keep employees around for the fun of it.

Also, AT&T is making plenty of money right now. If that was the reason they'd hire people, they'd be hiring more than they are already. They aren't.
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said by JerryTimes:

So I love how everyone here is against AT&T buying a German company, expanding their AMERICAN company, and employing more AMERICANS. Even if they didn't hire more people, they would make more money which keeps them from having to lay people off.

It's a GERMAN company for sure, but it's AMERICAN headquarters is in (BELLVUE, BELLINGHAM, I can't remember, but it's near SEATTLE), and I'm sure those personnel would be facing the UNEMPLOYMENT LINE.
Rekrul
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said by JerryTimes:

So I love how everyone here is against AT&T buying a German company, expanding their AMERICAN company, and employing more AMERICANS. Even if they didn't hire more people, they would make more money which keeps them from having to lay people off.

How much more money would they have to pay additional employees with, if they didn't spend $39 billion on the merger?
Expand your moderator at work

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said by JerryTimes:

So I love how everyone here is against AT&T buying a German company, expanding their AMERICAN company, and employing more AMERICANS. Even if they didn't hire more people, they would make more money which keeps them from having to lay people off.

So who believes in AMERICAN idiocracy. Go turnover some stuff and see how many of these american brands are made in america. They shouldn't have outsourced the jobs in the first place in they were really concerned about out commonwelth. Greed Breeds AT$T

t3ln3t
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horse hockey!

at&t might claim they will hire 5,000 IF the merger is approved, but with any large merger, there is duplicated jobs, that WILL be eliminated. I saw cuts when SNET & SBC merged, then again when Ameritech & SBC merged. When old AT&T was purchased by SBC, there were cuts. When the 'new' at&t purchased BellSouth, there were job cuts.
The only question is "how many?"

Even the official pink slips, aren't the only cuts that happen.
Often, post merger there is a reorganization of work units ... getting at&t management & personnel into groups of whomever was purchased. Eventually, people will be pink slipped, or will be asked to resign, or outright fired. Then there's the old trick of making your job/life hell, until you get fed up and resign.

I can all but guarantee, more than 5,000 jobs will be lost, directly because of this T-Mobile 'merger'.

the 'new' at&t wireless division, will NOT stop using call centers in India & Pakistan. Its cheaper, and they already have trained staff there. Those jobs are long gone! The LAST thing at&t wants, is more union employees in the U.S.

Count on it!
This deal is bad for at&t! It's bad for T-Mobile! It's bad for consumers! It's bad for Germans! It's bad for Americans! It's just BAD!

liaa
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AT&T ARE LIARS

Bull sh*t
budone
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DOJ files to block ATT/TM Deal

Was just announced at 10:30am. DOJ News Conference is at 11am/ET

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fuziwuzi
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I smell bull****

Sure, promise to hire 5000 call-center employees making minimum wage, but lets not mention the many thousands of higher paying technician and engineer jobs that will be lost because of this merger.

Anyone stupid enough to believe this bull**** from AT&T deserves to sit in an unemployment line.

Harddrive
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Harddrive

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I'm tired...

of seeing that AT&T network webmercial that precedes every video on the Internet.
I know what AT&T is trying to do and its not working.

m35g35
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Re: I'm tired...

Almost have some faith in the government. Now the FCC has serious concerns about the merger. Come on FCC, block the merger, shut it down!
etaadmin
join:2002-01-17
united state

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T stock price


kamm
join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY

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Re: T stock price

OMG, it fell 1/30th...

...and your point is...?

koma3504
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No-Merger

ATT does not need T-Mobile. And since the talks of this merger came about My cell signal Suck's big time especially if I use 3G.
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