 | | Who does this affect? I would like to know if this is every AT&T customer, including those in the different regions. I live in the "former-BellSouth" and I know people who have dial-up (since AT&T doesn't offer DSL service) and I think it is above $10 already?
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join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | Re: Who does this affect?And AT&T enforces loop lengths to have customers wanting higher packages use Uverse ..
Eg. I have a 3008/512kbps package (and have for +3 years)
This year, after Uverse became live, I can only order Express from AT&T.
AT&T claims that I'm too far for 3008/512kbps service (12,300'
) however, my line has supported it in the past, and I have better connectivity since AT&T conditioned the lines for Uverse
Home> wan ad li near
relative capacity occupation: 60%
noise margin downstream: 12.5 db
output power upstream: 12.0 dbm
attenuation downstream: 50.0 db
Menu 24.1 - System Maintenance - Status
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Status: 100M/Full Duplex Tx Pkts: 5108010 Line Status: Up
Collisions: 0 Rx Pkts: 3443136 Upstream Speed: 512 kbps
CPU Load = 7.59% Downstream Speed: 3008 kbps
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On the flip side, AT&T said that they would offer Uverse internet only 3/1Mbps for $30 and 6/1Mbps for $40/month.
I'm waiting for the VoIP packages to come out to see if its worth it (POTS/LD is expensive!)
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| | | Here in Bellsouth territory my mom is stuck on dialup for $20 a month and can't get DSL. I have 1.5 DSL and I pay $20 a month after various bundling discounts. My mom got a letter saying her dialup is going up. She's going to be paying more than me for friggin dialup.
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 ThrowDemsOutIf you can't convince 'em, confuse 'emPremium
join:2002-03-03
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kudos:4 |  Don't want DSL or price hike - then switch to other provider
Some readers say that the price rate is unfair due to the fact that DSL isn’t offered by the company in all of the areas that are seeing the rate hike. I see that NetZero is still $10/mo. Don't like the price, then vote with your wallet and switch. | |
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| | | Re: Don't want DSL or price hike - then switch to other provider I agree. I switched after looking at rather large selection of providers.
Be sure to read the "terms of service" of any provider so as not to be surprised by limitations that apply. | |
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| | | Many times those who have no choice other than dial up are the same ones who have few choices in dial up providers.
I can get DSL or Roadrunner but those out of range, dial up starts at $21 a month. | |
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| | | I vote switch.,
AT&T should change their name to reflect truth in advertising: AS&S | |
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join:2007-01-11 | Re: Dejavu all over again Wow Really? Took me 8 years to notice then. Been around since '99 and I can't remember a weekend full of the last weekdays stories.  Guess I haven't paid attention or the stories just aren't that memorable.  | |
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|  DownTheShoreJust Say No To NewtsPremium
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kudos:10 | I thought for a moment I was mistaken that this was a repeat news story. Thanks for restoring my faith in my mental acuity. 
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| | | | Re: Dejavu all over again I would really love 10/10 or
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DSL is dinosaurs
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| | LOL And what happens if you cant get dsl at&t do i get a discount because of your SLOW deployment?
Not to say there are other dail-up out there. | |
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| fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
join:2005-05-20
kudos:3 | Re: LOL No... you don't bitch about it and simply buy from one of a million other dial up companies out there. 
But I do have to agree with you... AT&T, SBC, PacBell, Bell Souwf, et all, have been extremely slow in deploying services.
In Sacramento CA, right south of Down Town, is this HUGE pocket area, some older but a lot of newer homes, and it STILL can't get DSL since the central offices were built on the furthest sides of each community. They've promised for years to put in an RT but no luck. Just one example... | |
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| | | | Re: LOL actualy i was in this situation I moved from an AT&T area that had DSL to on that did not and they discounted my dial-up because they did not offer dsl. They only charge higher to the folks that can get dsl if they want it, not to the people that can not get dsl from them. | |
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| | | | | To hell with it The way I see it, to hell with it. I live so far out, I cant get DSL, all I can get is dial up. Because of this price increase, I will be switching from AT&T to a local provider. Which is ok with me, because all AT&T can seem to get me is 28.8 when other providers here can get me as much as 38.6 So, to hell with AT&T, busters.... | |
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 KeepOnRockinMusic Lover ForeverPremium
join:2002-11-08
Beaverton, OR | Stubborn Customers Even when AT&T do raise prices, some people just won't switch over.
For example, just look at AOL dial-up users. AOL charges some of the highest prices in the industry for dial-up, yet people continue to use it.
I view it as sort of like the "cigarette tax". Smokers grumble, but pay it anyways.
Yet, dial-up certainly is not addictive! | |
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|  JigsawStardust We ArePremium
join:2000-10-21
Cleveland, OH | Re: Stubborn Customers said by KeepOnRockin:I view it as sort of like the "cigarette tax". Smokers grumble, but pay it anyways. Yet, dial-up certainly is not addictive! Or you just go to upstate New York and pay 12 bucks for a carton of smokes on a Indian Reservation.
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|  dslwanterIt's comingPremium
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Niles, OH | Or they might live in an area where AT&T is too cheap to have DSL available. | |
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|  RR ConductorHappy 40th AmtrakPremium
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kudos:1 | said by KeepOnRockin: Even when AT&T do raise prices, some people just won't switch over. For example, just look at AOL dial-up users. AOL charges some of the highest prices in the industry for dial-up, yet people continue to use it. I view it as sort of like the "cigarette tax". Smokers grumble, but pay it anyways. Yet, dial-up certainly is not addictive! Of course they grumble, after the lung damage that's all they can do.
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4 edits | Let's Look at the Numbers... They say that the price increase of over fifty percent is designed to keep their dial-up prices competitive with others in the market...
Really now. Ok let's run the numbers here...
Monthly Service Prices:
AT&T world net dial-up: $19.95
At&t World Net Dial-Up with the fifty percent price increase: $22.95
AOL Dial-Up: $23.90 (Though I heard that if you go through Netscape or threaten to cancel your service they will offer you $9.95 a month access)
NetZero Dialup: $9.95
Juno Dialup: $9.95
So with the price increase you can see that AT&T World Net will be just under a dollar cheaper than the most expensive dial-up provider, AOL. Yet, AT&T said that the price increase is to make their dial-up more competitive. What a load of crap.
How can you be more competitive in the dial-up market when you jack up your price when have the the second highest price in the dial-up market? If you look at the market NetZero and Juno offer their dial-up at $9.95 a month. If AT&T really wanted to be more competitive in the dial-up market they would of lowered their prices to reflect the dial-up marketplace, not jack the price up.
Oh wait, it said it was suggested that the move may be designed to get stubborn dial-up customers to switch to broadband. What if stubborn means that you have no choice other than dial-up? Sure, there is satellite broadband, but last time I checked AT&T does not offer that service. Not to mention even with the price hike, dial-up will still be cheaper than satellite.
It sounds like what's going to happen is that those "stubborn" dial-up people are going to have two choices. They are either going to get AT&T DSL service or jump ship completely and find some other dial-up provider. I am sure NetZero and Juno are going to be happy as clams taking up the dial-up folks that decided to jump ship. | |
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|  dvd536as Mr. Pink as they comePremium
join:2001-04-27
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kudos:4 | Re: Let's Look at the Numbers... Juno is still around?
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| | | | Re: Let's Look at the Numbers... Juno and NetZero are the same company United Online. | |
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| | | | said by dvd536:Juno is still around? Yup, I know a friend who uses Juno.
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| | | Chances are those cheap dial up providers have no local numbers in the same markets as where the price increase is likely to hit. | |
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| | aglinka
join:2005-10-21
Saint Johnsbury, VT | Re: Let's Look at the Numbers... btw, AOL is down to $9.95 now. Level(3), which supplies most cheap dial-up numbers, has access numbers everywhere.
AT&T is basically saying we dont want to provide dial-up anymore. | |
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Give me a link and I will believe you. | |
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| | | | | said by aglinka:btw, AOL is down to $9.95 now. Level(3), which supplies most cheap dial-up numbers, has access numbers everywhere. AT&T is basically saying we dont want to provide dial-up anymore. I wish they would say they dont want to provide service of any sort, and just shut the hell down altogether. | |
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Now I can see the AT&T dial up folks who can get DSL service from AT&T make the switch. I know I would. It may be a small number, or a large number who may have this opportunity to do so. There is no way to tell how big this base is since there is no realistic measure of who can get DSL and who can't.
There is a third choice that will present itself for the AT&T dial up folks. The people who are stuck because they have to pay to have a internet connection, even if it is dial up, because despite the price hike it's still cheaper than satellite. This choice will be eventually all that is left of the AT&T dial up base. But expect this base to get smaller over time because the cheap dial up providers will add more access numbers. | |
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| | | | Re: Let's Look at the Numbers... Checked, no local numbers in my area.
607 334,335,336, Norwich N.Y. Largest town and county seat. | |
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| | Cheaper? I'm sure most customers on at&t dial-up that can get DSL have had many invitations to do so by at&t. At&t will certainly not lose ALL of their dial-up only customers doing this. IF that is what they wanted to do, wouldn't this make it more expensive if they lose more customers then they gain by raising rates. Unless they move to an 800 dial in #, they would still have to maintain local dial-up setups would they not? | |
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join:2007-10-26
Huntington Beach, CA | Cable does the same thing Time Warner in my area charges more for analog basic than they do digital basic (which includes the analog tier), to move people to digital where they can get higher fees for required hardware rentals.
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join:2004-12-21
Denver, CO | For those too far out for DSL www.dialup.cc
$4.95 per month dialup. | |
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All those company's primarily serve urban areas. | |
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| | AT&T stupid thing to do. Wow, what a smart thing to do, raise dial-up prices, so where you guys don't offer DSL, people will switch. | |
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| | Dialup Hmm Alot of customers who are still on Dialup have no choice because either cable internet or dsl is not available where they live, is ATT just doing this to the people who CAN get dsl or everyone regardless if they can get dsl or not? | |
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