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6Mb "Elite" plan?I think maybe it's time to rename the plans. 6Mb is anything but "Elite". Does Verizon even offer a plan that slow? | |
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Re: 6Mb "Elite" plan?you got a point here. plus they are increasing the plan prices. way to fail at&t | |
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I'll take $40 6 Mb DSL over 3Mb cable as the equivalent package from our cable company is $60 for 12Mb which I simply don't need. Will drop the cable TV soon as well ($26 for 22 channels versus 50+ from Dish Network) | |
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Re: 6Mb "Elite" plan?opps | |
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2009-Dec-21 11:52 am
Re: 6Mb "Elite" plan?I have the $19.99 VZ Package Not too shabby! Bob | |
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Just more proof they know there's insufficient competition and consumers will have little choice but to pony up--- no matter how unhappy they are with the service.
AT&T profits up despite the bad economy, but nothing is good enough for them. Must always been more, and more, and MORE. | |
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Jon5 Premium Member join:2001-01-20 Lisle, IL |
Jon5
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2009-Dec-21 9:09 am
Nothing here yetMy bill for Dec is $119. Same as it has been since it was installed. Guess I'll see...
Did get a big 5 page privacy policy in the mail from them in an envelope that said "AT&T Annual report" or something. Thought that was a little weird. Maybe something about the rate hike is buried in there. | |
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What happened tolower prices for consumers? | |
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Re: What happened toha this is AT&T we are talking about. | |
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en102
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2009-Dec-21 11:10 am
Re: What happened toI don't think it matters if its cable, fios, uverse or satellite.... prices go up, not down. | |
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Re: What happened toprices go up. not the value.
that spells one thing. anti-consumer. | |
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Koil Premium Member join:2002-09-10 Irmo, SC |
Koil
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2009-Dec-21 9:23 am
Where is the competition??Here in Columbia, SC, TWC is the main deal, pretty much, esp as ISP's go. Well, its RoadRunner, but piped through them.
Anyway, I would love nothing more than to go to AT&T or some other vendor, but AT&T doesn't even compete...it makes me think they're in corporate agreement to keep the prices the same on both sides for the same level of product.
I currently get 8mb RR Ultra and U-Verse I think is actually MORE than TWC for the same speed...how do you come into a market and not at least undercut the competition a little?
I keep thinking I am missing something, so please....someone clue me in. | |
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Re: Where is the competition??Not that I agree with this, but I believe that they're competing on quality of services and the value of their brand over TWC. The U-Verse PQ is better than what I've seen from TWC in several markets ( Socal, Wisc, and Columbis, OH). Their channel lineup is better than TWC. They offer more HD channels than TWC. Their DVR is better than TWCs DVR. Also, U-Verse offers faster speeds than 8mbps, for sure. None of these ISPs/Video companies seem to compete on price and they can do this because we buy it the way they sell it. I've had both and I liked Uverse better than TWC. | |
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What's U-Verse? Here in North Augusta, SC it's all Comcast or ATT DSL (max 3mb).
We're still waiting on the increased competition and lower prices down here. | |
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Jon5
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2009-Dec-21 9:24 am
I don't see itI just looked at my bill and on Uversecentral and see no mention of a rate hike anywhere. Edit: Okay I see. From the current rates link Karl posted in the story quote: * Standard retail pricing on 02/01/10 will be: Express - starting at $30.00/mo., Pro - starting at $35.00/mo., Elite - starting at $40.00/mo.
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2009-Dec-21 10:11 am
Re: I don't see itI don't see anything about the 12meg or 18meg package getting raised or VoIP.
AT&T still doesn't get what the idea of bundling means. Also getting rid of so many freaking internet package. Honestly do we need 1.5. They should just have 3, 6, 12 and 18. When the 24 comes out maybe get rid of the 3 and lowering the pricing on all. | |
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2009-Dec-21 11:43 am
Re: I don't see itsaid by gdm:I don't see anything about the 12meg or 18meg package getting raised or VoIP. AT&T still doesn't get what the idea of bundling means. Also getting rid of so many freaking internet package. Honestly do we need 1.5. They should just have 3, 6, 12 and 18. When the 24 comes out maybe get rid of the 3 and lowering the pricing on all. Some of us can only get 1.5 There is a large majority of AT&T customers that are not Served by RT's or VRAD's that have to live with 1.5, I'm one of them. So yes, please keep a "up to 1.5Mbps" tier. | |
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2009-Dec-21 11:44 am
Re: I don't see itI'm not talking about getting rid of 1.5 ADSL. 1.5 U-verse internet because everyone can get at least 12 megs for U-Verse. | |
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2009-Dec-21 11:48 am
Re: I don't see itYou didn't specify that your comments were directed to U-Verse plans only... "Bundling" is more than just U-Verse.. I am bundling Dish, Cell, POTS, and ADSL. | |
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2009-Dec-21 12:15 pm
Re: I don't see itThis whole topic is about U-Verse which has 3 different products TV, Internet & VoIP not ADSL, cell, Dish, etc. | |
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because 1.5 is more than enough for a lot of people. | |
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2009-Dec-22 11:14 am
Re: I don't see itYou guys aren't getting the point is get rid of the 1.5 drop the 3meg pricing to the 1.5. It's more trouble to have so many speed tiers. Simplify the tiers and pricing. | |
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2009-Dec-21 9:32 am
Prices"Some users in BellSouth territory still say they pay close to $33, $38, and $43, respectively."
I hope those are bundled prices... I'm still paying $47.95 for 6Mbit "Elite" in BS territory unbundled. Which is ridiculous for how slow it is. | |
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2009-Dec-21 10:10 am
Re: PricesIf Qwest wasn't doing deep-discount-for-first-year promotions they'd be right along with you; dry-line "up to 7 Mbps" is $46.99. | |
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I was paying $47.99 a month as well for a 6 meg naked DSL line which was terribly slow. I was lucky to even see 4-5 meg. AT&T's service is grossly overpriced in the Bellsouth region for their DSL. | |
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morbo
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2009-Dec-21 12:09 pm
Re: PricesAT&T had been saying--or delaying--that pricing in the old Bell South region would come in line with the rest of their pricing. The problem was those pesky computer systems! Gosh darn it. They just needed time to be able to drop the monthly fees. Give them time....to integrate. Sigh. | |
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2009-Dec-28 10:52 am
Re: PricesBy the time they "integrate" i will be in my new house and off the Bellsouth network, thank god. Shall be trying my luck with charter, which if worse comes to worse, I'll get their business class service when they decide to mess up resi grade, lol | |
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2009-Dec-21 10:11 am
Any changes on higher-end tiers?Or is AT&T just trying to push up their ARPU by sticking it to lower-end users?
That said, I know plenty of people who would happily pay for a $30 1.5/1 connection. It's just that all of them are outside town far enough that they'll never get U-Verse. | |
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Jon5
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2009-Dec-21 10:27 am
Re: Any changes on higher-end tiers?said by iansltx:Or is AT&T just trying to push up their ARPU by sticking it to lower-end users? I'm guessing the majority of their users are on the lower tiers. The $5 extra doesn't close the gap to the next tier enough to make me upgrade though. If Elite was going to $50, I'd probably throw in the extra $5 and move up to MAX. But the $15 per/mo difference between elite & max is more than I'm willing to pay voluntarily. | |
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2009-Dec-21 10:28 am
You'll pay whatever....You'll pay whatever they want. Until there is more competition, and there ain't gonna be any in the near future in a lot of markets, you are stuck, or get satellite - which also sucks wind ! | |
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2009-Dec-21 10:42 am
Stuckmy DTIVO is going out, and the contract is about done. i am not sure i want a new NDS box from DTV (and contract, price increases, and reduced feature set), so i am looking for alternatives. UVerse is available - but with ATT being in the holiday spirit and raising the rates, that just turned me off.
hope i can get a mythtv setup and use HULU for my tv (so i can cut out as many $5 panhandlers as possible) . . . | |
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gigante
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2009-Dec-21 8:20 pm
Re: StuckI'm not a DTV fanboy - but from someone that had both (and if you are an HD head) the picture quality is starkly different.
Getting your TV feed via copper to the home and IP technology still leaves a lot to be desired, IMO.
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Boricua
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2009-Dec-21 11:14 am
Looking forward to this...What a Merry Christmas this'll be. I have yet to have my pay restored, but instead I find out this morn the Evil Empire will be increasing rates . | |
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maartena
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2009-Dec-21 11:24 am
Wow.I am so surprised. And here I thought that the telco companies would do things so differently from the cable and satellite companies....
This is huge, no one could have seen this coming! | |
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Broadband in the US = Big fat JokeI can only repeat what i been preaching in the past ad nauseum. As long as no real competition in the US exists there will be no pressure on providers to relax pricing.
Here in Germany I pay 85 a month for Unlimited EVERYTHING (TV Phone Internet), including unlimited POTS calls to 75% of the world (USA included) with a 50mb/10mb unthrottled unrestricted internet connection. In the Spring of 2010 another provider in the State of Bavaria comes online offering 100/100 with Flat-rate phone service for 29.95.
Many naysayers in the past have responded that the USA is so much bigger then Europe with so many more people, and therefore cant provide fast and cheap internet even in its urban zones. Fact is Europe is over 1 million square kilometers larger than the USA and has over 400 million more population. Other than greed there is no reason why the No. 1 Country in the world, as America likes to call itself, shouldn't be able to enjoy the same. | |
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2009-Dec-21 11:39 am
Merry christmas and a happy fee raised holiday!Nice way to make everyone enjoy their holiday. And watch, another $5 a month increase in spring. "We have to raise prises to keep our amazing stable and lightning fast *COUGH* FIBER *COUGH* network up." | |
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2009-Dec-21 11:39 am
if anything, should be cut $5especially bundled services... these telcos don't know how good they have it JUST TO HAVE SUBSCRIBERS to triple play.. they will have to LEARN THE HARD WAY by way of churn and plain old unsubscribing to overpriced services!
schmucks! at&t does not deserve $60 more a month! | |
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doublea
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2009-Dec-21 12:29 pm
Just sadThe 6mb dsl plan was at one time just $30 in my area, and that was not a contract price, that was the every day deal. If anythng 6mb should be less now. Comcast and others don't even offer a plan at this speed.
Infact comcasts economy 1.5mbps plan is now cheaper than dsl, that's just wrong uverse has caught up to comcast in crapppy prices. | |
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nishiko7
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2009-Dec-21 12:40 pm
This is a stupid move by AT&T, but...... as one (or maybe a couple) posters noted, AT&T does offer a higher quality service compared to most competitors out there. SD picture quality is better, Internet (and thus also TV since it's IPTV) is super super stable, comes with a superior and free DVR on U200 or above.
So, while I think this is a stupid move for AT&T (increases churn), even at $5 more, they are still fairly competitive with most of the "competition". Unfortunately, the extra churn will just neutralize the increase. Idiots.
Plus, UVerse won't be able to compete with raw DOCSIS 3.0 internet speeds anytime soon (though easily can on stability!), so they should leverage prices against that... now they're doing the exact opposite to that. Not smart.
Like some have noted, I've also never understood the pricing of their higher tiers of Internet. Why previously was there only $5 jumps between lower tier speed doubling (6 Mbps and under), but a $20 jump from 6 to 12 Mbps, and another $10 more to the 18. made little sense to me. It's not like the VRAD's 1 Gbps fiber link can't support most users at the higher speed, especially when statistical usage models are analyzed. It's true, this increase take a step at closing this strange pricing gap if it indeed only applies to lower tiers, but they SHOULD have lowered the price of the higher tiers by at least $5 to accomplish the same, in my opinion.
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Murdoc49
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2009-Dec-21 5:51 pm
Shouldnt we get a discount for the spying?Or are we paying a spy recovery fee?
I also cancelled ATT because of constant pricing increases on just a landline, dealing with tech support,...you better have 90 minutes free to you in that day. I think that immunity just gave them a "blank check" to screw us even more. | |
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What was that about competition?As usual law makers swallow the stale BS how allowing them into the pack will create competition and lower prices. That went well as usual | |
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slckusr
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2009-Dec-21 9:14 pm
coolGuess ill quit donating the 5$ a month to them for the ability to have 5cent long distance rates.
Net increase 0.
greed doesnt so anyone well, especially when your company is lagging behind publicly and privately maybe roll this price increase into providing better coverage with your faster speeds.
Awee hell its ATT this will just fatten the shareholders wallet. | |
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Re: coolsaid by slckusr Awee hell its ATT this will just fatten the shareholders wallet. You as they say hit the nail on the head. The downfall of the banks, insurance, auto, telco and cable is and can be solidly traced to the flawed realignment of their corporate missions from providing the best product/service value for consumers to the priority of provide profits for investors. This changed who was the customer from the consumer to the investor | |
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LD affected alsoI do not have V-Verse or VOIP. Being curious did I miss something in my bill regarding my DSL-ELITE nothing mentioned there. On the POTS side of the bill though I found this:
Important Information Effective February 11, 2010, the AT&T Unlimited Nationwide Calling Advantage 4 plan monthly recurring charge will increase by $5.00. On the same date, this plan will no longer be offered to new customers. You may keep this plan until it is discontinued entirely, or until you move or change your service. If you move or change your service, you must select another long distance price plan. For more information or to discuss other long distance calling plans, please refer to the phone number on the front of your bill. Thank you for choosing AT&T Long Distance.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I only recently added a combo that was to lower my POTS additional services that included this. Prior to that I had contemplated dropping POTS altogether and going BARE DSL, looks like when I move next month I'll either go BARE DSL or switch to TW/RR BARE HS same price as AT&T and slightly faster down and slightly slower up, their (TW/RR) max tier here being twice as fast down slightly faster up for $10 more is looking more attractive.
The price point advantage AT&T had, has now vaporized. No longer the best bang for the buck! | |
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