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Eliminate price controls? Amazingly get higher prices...
09:01AM Monday Oct 19 2009 by Karl Bode
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Despite the recession and the fact AT&T should want more people using their landline service, the baby bell is raising landline prices in California some 20%, according to the Mercury News. AT&T and Verizon convinced California lawmakers to erode consumer price caps over the last few years, promising lawmakers the result would be lower prices. AT&T says the price hikes, which will hit about half of California residents, are simply being adjusted to "market levels." "There's nothing in the economy or the cost of providing phone service that would justify a 22 percent increase," said Harvey Rosenfield, founder of Consumer Watchdog.

David Lazarus at the LA Times explored the issue in detail last year, noting how since 2006 when California started lifting price controls, AT&T has increased the average price of three-minute daytime local calls by 34%, evening calls by 92% and nighttime and weekend calls by 233%. Call waiting has gotten 86% more expensive, while even the charge not to have your name printed in the phone book went up 346%.

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benc
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Hopefully This Won't Spread To Other Areas

     I already pay more than enough for my AT&T POTS!

Laughing Man
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Re: Hopefully This Won't Spread To Other Areas

Only if your state has been spending its time eliminating consumer price caps.

Edit: Original reply meant for your title there, but yeah, POTS is expensive no matter where you are.
chronoss2009

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usa trying to catch canada as most expensive again NO WAY WERE GONNA BE NUMBER ONE
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I'm all VOIP, have absolutely no monthly bill, and sound quality is as good as that which AT&T provided.

I can't believe what AT&T charges for POTS service.
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Re: Hopefully This Won't Spread To Other Areas

said by pandora See Profile :

have absolutely no monthly bill
So you get high quality VoIP for free then?
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Re: Hopefully This Won't Spread To Other Areas

said by cdru See Profile :

So you get high quality VoIP for free then?
Yup. $200 for an Ooma core, then $40 to port my POTS number, after that, $0 per month. On a second line, I have elected to pay $100 a year for premier service, mostly this lets me block unwanted callers and forward calls when the internet is down to my cell phone.
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Re: Hopefully This Won't Spread To Other Areas

said by pandora See Profile :

Yup. $200 for an Ooma core, then $40 to port my POTS number, after that, $0 per month.
So you are paying $240 for what many VoIP providers charge less for equipment and 2 years of service. Plus the financial viability of Ooma still hasn't been proven as they are yet to be profitable. Give it two more years and see if Ooma is still around once the VC money has dried up.

On a second line, I have elected to pay $100 a year for premier service, mostly this lets me block unwanted callers and forward calls when the internet is down to my cell phone.
So now the additional revenue stream comes into play. Yeah it's not a monthly fee, but it still pro-rates to about $8.33/month...cheaper then many traditional VoIP providers, but still not non-zero.

robinmich

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Hi. Pls explain *how* to go totally VOip as said in your post re: POTS prices
going up (again) w/AT&T. Thanks. OBTW: no Windows here if that matters.
I'm sure my linux box can handle anything but I'm curious how manage to get around AT&T forcing say, POTS in order to have DSL (Michigan); we don't have Uverse as option in my area just yet.
TIA.
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Seems someone at ATT has an addiction problem.

zachary1
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Re: Hopefully This Won't Spread To Other Areas

You mean that the CEO is snorting coke up his nose and needs the extra $$$ to pay for it?
Madtown

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U-verse............

If that what it takes for them to install U-verse faster in my neighborhood than I don't mind paying more for my landline. Right now I pay about $20.00 for my landline phone. I have Dish Network and AT&T HSI, Pro, and would love to get rid of Dish and switch over to U-verse.
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Re: U-verse............

That's not how it works. In fact AT&T has cut capex spending from the previous year.

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said by Madtown See Profile :

If that what it takes for them to install U-verse faster in my neighborhood than I don't mind paying more for my landline.
Oh wow. This is hilarious. Keep the laughs coming.

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said by Madtown See Profile :

If that what it takes for them to install U-verse faster in my neighborhood than I don't mind paying more for my landline. Right now I pay about $20.00 for my landline phone. I have Dish Network and AT&T HSI, Pro, and would love to get rid of Dish and switch over to U-verse.
LOL.

But no. They are two separate entities. Because a great deal of many reasons, one of which that says that the farmer living 25 miles from the nearest CO should get phone service at the same price as someone living in urban L.A., land-lines are getting increasingly more expensive to maintain, and they are losing customers by the thousands. Simple math will tell you that it costs $20,000 a year to maintain a piece of equipment in a local CO that connects 5,000 users, and a few years later everyone has moved to cable-company phone service, opted for wireless only, or went with some other voip service like vonage, and there are now only 3,000 users connected and it is still dropping..... and at the same time maintenance on said equipment is rising due to salary raises, older equipment breaking more frequently, etc, etc....... you'll have to charge users more to make up the difference.

That being said, my Vonage phone bill is $24,95 + some taxes/fees = roughly $31 every month, and I can call the entire U.S., Canada, and about 25 other countries and not pay a penny more.

My SECOND line for business is still POTS. It has no features and no long distance, and is just for incoming calls. If it is getting too expensive to maintain that (I am also keeping the landline for emergency/earthquake reasons, last quake my cellphone and internet stopped working for hours, but landline worked) I may have to decide on an alternative and hope for the best with a quake.
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Re: U-verse............

POTS equipment has been around for how long ?

A LOT of that equipment should have been paid for many years ago, when there was nothing but Telco monopoly. That $20,000/year for 5000 users = $4/year.

The 'carrier grade' service is where they can charge a truckload for.

On a similar note, if its 'cost of maintaining lines' argument, then the cost should be similar to cable, and for the price, ADSL (rural) or VDSL should be included in the cost.

I pay $36/year for Skype, and make ~3 hours of conference calls/day.

maartena
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Re: U-verse............

I'm just making up numbers of course..... don't know what the actual maintenance of POTS line costs.

In any way, I can see why it costs more to maintain.
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Madtown

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Maybe Cell phone data plans from AT&T will cost less.

McShaken
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Don't be surprised...

This is how the big boys roll... Silver spoons and golden parachutes don't come cheap these days.

Chris 313
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Glad I don't have them

I don't even have a landline, haven't since 2004. CDV has been 39.95 ever since I got it. AT&T really needs to rethink. No wonder people are dropping land lines like flies and going to other phone methods.
Madtown

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Re: Glad I don't have them

said by Chris 313 See Profile :

I don't even have a landline, haven't since 2004. CDV has been 39.95 ever since I got it. AT&T really needs to rethink. No wonder people are dropping land lines like flies and going to other phone methods.
Except some people don't have that option, I for one have Dish and regular DSL and that requires a phone line.

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Re: Glad I don't have them

said by Madtown See Profile :

said by Chris 313 See Profile :

I don't even have a landline, haven't since 2004. CDV has been 39.95 ever since I got it. AT&T really needs to rethink. No wonder people are dropping land lines like flies and going to other phone methods.
Except some people don't have that option, I for one have Dish and regular DSL and that requires a phone line.
Sure, I'll give you the DSL bit. Excluding a Dry loop, or whatever DSL without phone service on the line is. But as far as I can remember, Sat TV,Tivo, etc. has moved beyond needing a phone line to do connections, you could do it over your internet connection now.

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Re: Glad I don't have them

said by Chris 313 See Profile :

said by Madtown See Profile :

said by Chris 313 See Profile :

I don't even have a landline, haven't since 2004. CDV has been 39.95 ever since I got it. AT&T really needs to rethink. No wonder people are dropping land lines like flies and going to other phone methods.
Except some people don't have that option, I for one have Dish and regular DSL and that requires a phone line.
Sure, I'll give you the DSL bit. Excluding a Dry loop, or whatever DSL without phone service on the line is. But as far as I can remember, Sat TV,Tivo, etc. has moved beyond needing a phone line to do connections, you could do it over your internet connection now.
Some areas do not offer dry loop. Dish still needs a phone line for ordering ppv and other things.
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said by Chris 313 See Profile :

I don't even have a landline, haven't since 2004. CDV has been 39.95 ever since I got it. AT&T really needs to rethink. No wonder people are dropping land lines like flies and going to other phone methods.
AT&T knows that land line days are numbered so AT&T is raising their prices to fleece the folks who either

1. cannot dump their land line or
2. aren't aware they can dump their land line for alternatives
Madtown

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Re: Glad I don't have them

said by badtrip See Profile :

said by Chris 313 See Profile :

I don't even have a landline, haven't since 2004. CDV has been 39.95 ever since I got it. AT&T really needs to rethink. No wonder people are dropping land lines like flies and going to other phone methods.
AT&T knows that land line days are numbered so AT&T is raising their prices to fleece the folks who either

1. cannot dump their land line or
2. aren't aware they can dump their land line for alternatives
I do have an alternative and that is Comcast, but in order to do that I would have to dump Dish for Comcast Cable, and Dish is better than Comcast, and Comcast Internet is 250GB per month. Xbox Live, and videos from youtube, Netflix and Hulu and images (more likeley porn images in my case) will count toward the 250GB cap. Texts not so much. So in my case the aternatives will cost me more money.

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said by badtrip See Profile :

said by Chris 313 See Profile :

I don't even have a landline, haven't since 2004. CDV has been 39.95 ever since I got it. AT&T really needs to rethink. No wonder people are dropping land lines like flies and going to other phone methods.
AT&T knows that land line days are numbered so AT&T is raising their prices to fleece the folks who either

1. cannot dump their land line or
2. aren't aware they can dump their land line for alternatives
And what alternatives are those? Let's see, there's only two that I know of:

1) Mobile phone -- don't want one. Unreliable, shoddy service (static + jitter), overpriced significantly (mainly in the United States), crash/lock up, blah blah... They're not cheaper than a landline if all you want is simple service (like me).

2) VoIP -- bulky physical boxes which are often combo'd with a cable modem (stay away from my cable modem!), susceptible to static + jitter, involve use of batteries to "guarantee" service availability during power outages, reliant on IP and other pieces which could fail in the above scenarios as well, and no absolute 100% guarantee 911 is available in case of emergency.

With a land line, I get the following:

- Reliable service -- no static, jitter, drop-outs, phone isn't going to crash on me, etc.
- No bulky boxes or extra hardware -- single 2-pair wire coming out of the wall, available in all rooms of my flat
- Usable during a power outage (yes I keep an old wired phone around for this purpose -- and it came in handy a couple months ago!)
- 911 service is always available

That said -- I recognise I'm a dying breed of person. Eventually I'm going to *have* to adapt to this evolutionary technology, but I'd rather not until all of the above situations are dealt with.

Bottom line is that neither of the alternatives, to me, are considered viable replacements. I simply refuse to pay more for something that's worse in overall quality (with regards to what I want/need). I'll pay 20% more for the above, but I won't pay 50% more for mobile/VoIP given its horrible track record (IMHO) so far.
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Re: Glad I don't have them

Damn dude, my parents are in their 60's and they ditched their landline 2 years ago for cell service. We never have any issues, jitters or drops, and static isn't possible with digital phones. Best of all, nearly everyone I call is on Verizon, so like 95% of my calls are mobile to mobile.

Have you used a cell phone recently? Mine is on par with a landline for sure.

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Re: Glad I don't have them

said by Dragasoni See Profile :

We never have any issues, jitters or drops, and static isn't possible with digital phones.
What about digital artifacting? What about POTS using 64kbitps and cellphones struggle to reach 14kbitps? There is a big quality difference.

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Re: Glad I don't have them

said by patcat88 See Profile :

said by Dragasoni See Profile :

We never have any issues, jitters or drops, and static isn't possible with digital phones.
What about digital artifacting? What about POTS using 64kbitps and cellphones struggle to reach 14kbitps? There is a big quality difference.
I notice no difference whatsoever. If the signal is bad, sure it's choppy, but when I have 3 or more bars out of 5, my connection is clear and loud. Even when I'm driving at 80 MPH, people think I'm in my living room. I will say that GSM phones sound rather crappy to me, but CDMA is loud, crisp, and clear.

If cell phones were so bad, why are people dropping their landlines at this rate?

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said by Chris 313 See Profile :

I don't even have a landline, haven't since 2004. CDV has been 39.95 ever since I got it. AT&T really needs to rethink. No wonder people are dropping land lines like flies and going to other phone methods.
Isn't your CDV provided over a landline?

Last I checked, Comcast ain't providing service over the air.

You have a landline

Welcome to the 90's!

Nevertheless, 40 bucks for Comcast landline is amazing...why don't you get cell?
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Bell Heads

These jerks cannot get over the fact that they are no longer a monopoly. In the days of the Bell System, Pacific Bell always disliked the California Public Service Commission because they supported consumers over corporate interest. That sure has changed. If AT&T wants to stay in the voice telephone business they should be lowering cost of land line service not raising it. The greatest impact will be on the poor that cannot find alternate communication service. Corporate greed does not help either.
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Re: Bell Heads

said by Mr Matt See Profile :

These jerks cannot get over the fact that they are no longer a monopoly. In the days of the Bell System, Pacific Bell always disliked the California Public Service Commission because they supported consumers over corporate interest. That sure has changed. If AT&T wants to stay in the voice telephone business they should be lowering cost of land line service not raising it. The greatest impact will be on the poor that cannot find alternate communication service. Corporate greed does not help either.
I wouldn't say the greatest impact would be the poor vs middle class working people. Poor people can get on Lifeline discounted service...... unless they arte raising that too.

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What makes you think they want to stay in the land line business. It seems that AT&T Wireless is much more profitable - higher rates, fees, and lower maintenance.
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Truly Hilarious

In this day and age to raise land line prices. Now that is a laugh. The only good reason to have your land line is for non voice communications like alarms and faxes and what not. We had VOIP since 04 and even that seemed to be waste our family has gone to all cell since since a few months ago since that is all we used anyway. The money saved in VOIP bumped up our cell minutes with our F&F option which essentially turned into unlimited calling for all our family members and the ease of having 1 number for each of us so I don't have to chat with my inlaws or the same for my wife.

Good luck with that increase now how about a increase on buggy whips also. LOL

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I guess we will find out just who in California actually needs a landline phone.
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POTS is dying

Yet another reason to ditch POTS and get VOIP...

The stupidity and greediness of AT&T never ceases to amaze me!

TheVigilante

Re: POTS is dying

Agreed. I dumped these morons for VOIP, $30/month including international calling to any countries worth talking to.

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Reach out

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Re: Reach out

i ma glad i dropped them and switched to tmobile $10 a month home phone. Fuck ATT

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Re: Reach out

But what about the old people? Think of the OLD people!
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But thats ATT CLEC, not ATT ILEC/Ma Bell.

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Its like TDMA legacy pricing.

This is the same a TDMA being phased out, they want people off pots. So they are raising prices to motivate people off.

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Re: Its like TDMA legacy pricing.

said by DaveNJ See Profile :

This is the same a TDMA being phased out, they want people off pots. So they are raising prices to motivate people off.
that may be true - but a* is falling down if this is the case. unlike a true ilec, a* doesnt have a viable alternative to push users to. they obviously want users off copper, but they still need it for dsl and pots. even those users who have other hsi access, a* doesnt have a viable voip solution. unless they figure that the gains from not having to maintain pots outweighs the lost customer revenues. who knows? this is the death star.

q.
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Re: Its like TDMA legacy pricing.

said by tubbynet See Profile :

said by DaveNJ See Profile :

This is the same a TDMA being phased out, they want people off pots. So they are raising prices to motivate people off.
that may be true - but a* is falling down if this is the case. unlike a true ilec, a* doesnt have a viable alternative to push users to. they obviously want users off copper, but they still need it for dsl and pots. even those users who have other hsi access, a* doesnt have a viable voip solution. unless they figure that the gains from not having to maintain pots outweighs the lost customer revenues. who knows? this is the death star.

q.
have you forgotten wireless?

when the only landline option is cable, and we know how much BBR types love their cable company, everything will be data over wireless. just a matter of when. Increased wireless spectrum and tech will enable real competition and lower prices, but it ain't gonna happen real soon (lower prices) with 3 or 4 network infrastructure players (IMO).
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wow -_-

and THIS is why our household does NOT use any POTS service...

all cellphone in my place

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Landlines? Ehhh...haven't had a need for that for many years. AT&T can suck it.
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Perfect fit.
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CA Rate Lower by Law, Now Adjusting to Fair Rates

My understanding of California's PUC is that they have rates artificially-forced down below market rates, hurting the utilities like electric, which is why CA has rolling blackouts.
The article mentions that AT&T is simply adjusting to market rates, perhaps rates they get in other states, not the artificially low caps in CA. $20 for a monthly bill is cheap compared to the northeast. Why should CA get cheap phone service? Isn't the phone co in business to make a profit?
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Re: CA Rate Lower by Law, Now Adjusting to Fair Rates

Wow, the rolling black outs weren't because of cheap rates. Wow! What revisionist history! The electric rates are NOT low, or even artificially low in CA. Wow!
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There's competition. Use it.

1. AT&T's VoIP (they want you on it anyway)
2. Cable VoIP
3. VoIP from another provider plus an HSI connection of some sort
4. "Big four" cellular providers (unlimited voice, including calling features, texting and long distance, for $40-$60)
5. "Unlimited" cellular providers (CricKet, MetroPCS, others)

Granted, this means that soon the cheapest phone service without an internet connection will be somewhere around $40 per month, with the with-internet price sitting around $25, however the voice marketplace today is pretty competitive. You just have to look elsewhere if you want cheap talk, and in doing so you'll have to give up having a voice-usable copper pair running from your home to the CO.

Chuapang

I just need dial tone for my DSL.

I don't know how to talk over the POTS so what are my options? I am broke as a broken POT.

12 US for my dial tone and 113 for my DSL (Elite with static IP)

No TV for 15 years. I guess DZSL will be next.

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Re: I just need dial tone for my DSL.

AT&T sells dry loop.
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Re: I just need dial tone for my DSL.

said by Z80 See Profile :

AT&T sells dry loop.
Yeah, but Im willing bet they wanna ass ream you for it too.

No home phone and I dont miss it, at all, ..especially from ATT. Screw'em. I hope their ceo ends up living under a bridge on the interstate.

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Re: I just need dial tone for my DSL.

Not in my market.

Budget dry loop here starts at $20/mo for 768k/384k (1yr term) and goes up to $30 and $40 (no contract) for the fastest tiers. All include free wi-fi hot spot access and all these plans are cheaper than cable here.
elray

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Price Controls?

The CPUC denied AT&T (Pacific Bell) and Verizon (GTE) any basic rate increase from 1994 to 2008 - a period of over 13 years.

That isn't price control. Its theft.

Meanwhile, the 'state' increased their taxes across the board.
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Re: Price Controls?

And yet miraculously they stayed in business and made no attempt to leave the market.

said by elray See Profile :

The CPUC denied AT&T (Pacific Bell) and Verizon (GTE) any basic rate increase from 1994 to 2008 - a period of over 13 years.

That isn't price control. Its theft.

Meanwhile, the 'state' increased their taxes across the board.

Z80
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Basic rate increase sure, but all of their other services (caller ID, stay out of the phonebook fee, junk fees) all skyrocketed.
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Technology has allowed telephone companies to reduce operating costs. It use to take about 100 employees to maintain a 10,000 line step by step office. Digital offices require one technician per about 10 central offices. The technician goes around to each central office as needed and replaces circuit packs that tested defective based on a list provided by the switch control center.

You probably won't find a Main Distribution Frame in most central offices. With integrated Subscriber Line Carrier the technician goes out to the carrier cabinet and connects the pair from the POTS Port to the customer premises while the switch control center activates the POTS Port.

The problem is that the greedy Telephone Companies do not want to pass the savings on to customers. Do not forget since 1984 most telephone companies have raised the central office connection charge formerly Customer Access Line Charge, for a single line customer from $0.50 per month to over $6.00 per month. That along with other crap charges the Telephone Companies have nothing to complain about.

datag

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Re: Price Controls?

Thats funny, there is still a large MDF in my local CO
Chaldo

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West Bloomfield, MI

15+ year AT&T home phone customer switched to Vonage

Glad I switched to Vonage yesterday, number porting, getting box like tomorrow or the next day. I am so happy after I saw this I am like well I don't have to deal with that anymore
xsiddalx

join:2005-03-11
Chicago, IL
·AT&T Yahoo

Re: 15+ year AT&T home phone customer switched to Vonage

said by Chaldo See Profile :

Glad I switched to Vonage yesterday, number porting, getting box like tomorrow or the next day. I am so happy after I saw this I am like well I don't have to deal with that anymore
Congrats! Be glad you have a very dependable ISP that doesn't throttle. Pretty sure you'll have the blame game to deal with in the future...

"vonage" .. it's your ISP
"ISP"...it's vonage
"other people"...opinions will vary, caveat emptor

NOVA_Guy
Obama- Commander in Thief
Premium
join:2002-03-05
·VOIPo

Don't stay mad, Get even

Can I get a shout out from all the AT&T POTS customers out there who want to start using FreeConferenceCall.com just for the hell of it for 10-20 hours per week?

Why not? If AT&T is going to increase what consumers are charged, then perhaps consumers should fight back by taking action which ensures that AT&T will be hurt in the process.

I wonder how much this whole stunt has cost AT&T in political campaign contributions and other payoffs and bribes...
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Nobel peace prize for Obammer... Now he's got one more thing in common with Arafat besides hating America. And he's just as succesful as Jimmy "the failure" Carter.

Murdoc

join:2009-02-08
Manitowoc, WI
·AT&T DSL Service
·Callcentric
·Comcast

$50.00 something dollars att charged me for moving.

Att just nailed me with $50 something dollars to move just phone service to a new address. Also the slush fund charges went up too. I just ordered a voip adapter, 2 day shipping. When I get that setup there spying, greedy, law breaking government helping sorry asses won't be gouging me anymore.
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