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join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | Glad to have given up SMS/MMS for Email (much cheaper).
said by Karl :
with each additional message costing you $.10.
I had to take a second look. The $.10 almost looked like a $ 10, instead of $0.10. I was thinking that SMS was getting high  I'll pay the data plan and have the benefit of both email and data vs a 160 char limited message. | |
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| | | Re: Glad to have given up SMS/MMS for yea i wrote on them two weeks ago asking for 250 for theyre 5dollar plan and they get ride of it ...thats not what i wanted | |
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|  Romney2012Defeat Obama 2012-Chg we can believe inPremium
join:2002-03-03
USA
kudos:4 | Re: i better be grandfathered said by thedragonmas:ive got the $5 for 200 on 2 of my lines. if they end it ill just quit using txt's, im not paying double for it. only reason i use them at all is for banking alerts (winds up to about 90 txt's per line a month)
Yes. Existing users of older plans are grandfathered and will be able to stay on their old plans. | |
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| |  ilikemeI live in a van down by the river.Premium
join:2002-08-27
Denton, TX
kudos:1 | Re: i better be grandfathered We better be grandfathered in. I only use about 150 texts per month on my cell line. I usually use google voice to avoid the charges. | |
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join:2007-04-10
Raleigh, NC
kudos:5 | I wouldn't put money on that bet. | |
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| | | Romney2012Defeat Obama 2012-Chg we can believe inPremium
join:2002-03-03
USA
kudos:4 | Re: i better be grandfathered said by cramer:I wouldn't put money on that bet.
Read the story's link. It states clearly the fact that existing users will be grandfathered.
»www.gearlive.com/news/article/le···ne-q111/
Look at the image of the training doc as well the text in the story. | |
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| | | | | | Re: i better be grandfathered Bah. When a company has the slightest potential to rip off its customers, past experience would bet the money that they will, sooner or later, regardless of what they say now. | |
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join:2007-04-10
Raleigh, NC
kudos:5 | Watch your bill. I'll go ahead and say "I told you so." | |
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join:2005-03-14
Putnam, CT
kudos:4 | Re: i better be grandfathered Go ahead, people said the would not grandfather in the unlimited iPhone data plan and I still have it. | |
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| | | | | |  TamaraBQuestion The Current ParadigmPremium
join:2000-11-08
Da Bronx
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| Re: i better be grandfathered said by ptrowski:Go ahead, people said the would not grandfather in the unlimited iPhone data plan and I still have it.
So do I, and use it a LOT! My DSL was out for a full week, and I was online tethered for that entire time. | |
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| | | Re: Sprint's $10 data tax doesn't look so bad now said by xenophon:Sprint includes unlimited data and text for $10 and the overall plan is still less than ATT/VZW. What a nuisance it must be to have to watch a meter.
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Even with the extra $10 data charge, the total plan is less than ATT/VZW and still unlimited.
ATT charges $10 for limited number of texts and has data caps as well with extra charges when caps are reached. Sprint is $10 for unlimited data and text is already unlimited and overall plan is less. | |
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zipjay
join:2003-03-11
South Williamson, KY Reviews:
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Yet consumers continue to gleefully pay out the nose for SMS/MMS services -- despite the rise of traditional data alternatives like Google Voice.
Um... i cant use google voice to post to my twitter. I also cant use google voice to send TEXT to my friends. I cant use google voice to receive my account balance on my bank account. | |
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| | | Re: um.. said by zipjay:Um... i cant use google voice to post to my twitter. I also cant use google voice to send TEXT to my friends. I cant use google voice to receive my account balance on my bank account.
I can use any of a number of apps to post to twitter, not that I tweet that much anyway. Google voice also does indeed do SMS, but you can get other apps like TextFree to send text for free.
Mobile banking? There are apps for that, much better than text messaging.
Text messaging is absolutely useless to me. In fact I asked at&t to disable it due to the amount of spam I was getting. | |
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join:2001-01-13
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| Re: um.. said by fifty nine:Google voice also does indeed do SMS, but you can get other apps like TextFree to send text for free.
Mobile banking? There are apps for that, much better than text messaging.
Text messaging is absolutely useless to me. In fact I asked at&t to disable it due to the amount of spam I was getting.
I have never had a text plan with T-Mobile and even had them disable it on my account. I have an iTouch 4 and also use TextFree and sometimes TextPlus. The only restriction is you cannot send to short codes with either service (at least the last time I checked).
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|  AVDRespice, Adspice, ProspicePremium
join:2003-02-06
Onion, NJ | I can use my data connection to do those things. | |
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jcremin
join:2009-12-22
Siren, WI
kudos:2 | The market sets the price quote:
Given that SMS plans are pure profit for carriers it's hard to get too excited by this "deal," yet consumers continue to gleefully pay out the nose for SMS/MMS services
Well, it isn't PURE profit, there is some overhead for transferring the data and there is some cost for the SMS servers, but we can all agree that the cost is very very low per text message.
I don't think anyone would say that text messaging prices are reasonable, but the fact of the matter is that if people keep paying the prices, they have no incentive to lower them. | |
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| | | Re: The market sets the price SMS is pretty much pure profit. The original spec had the messages transmitted along with other signaling data which was transmitted anyway. | |
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join:2009-12-22
Siren, WI
kudos:2 | Re: The market sets the price said by fifty nine:SMS is pretty much pure profit. The original spec had the messages transmitted along with other signaling data which was transmitted anyway. Regardless of whether there's no cost or overhead between the tower and the customer isn't what I was talking about. There is data that has to be carried around the network and servers that have to process it.....
But my real point was that until people start voting with their wallets and text less or cancel their SMS services, the cell providers really have no incentive to lower the prices.
If you can build a TV for $100, and people will pay $500 to buy it, why would you sell it for $400. You might sell more, but you still make more money selling 500 tv's at $500 than you do selling 600 tv's at $400.
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I don't think anyone would say that text messaging prices are reasonable, but the fact of the matter is that if people keep paying the prices, they have no incentive to lower them.
Yeah, collusion does that. Where is the investigation ? | |
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| | openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
kudos:2 | Re: The market sets the price Do you honestly believe that Daniel Mead calls up Ralph de la Vega and the two of them agree to charge $0.20/msg and sell $20/mth SMS plans? I seriously doubt that. More likely, and what has historically happened, one of the companies sets a price, then the others match that price. That's not collusion, it's a happy oligopoly. | |
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join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
kudos:2 | Re: The market sets the price There's a human capital race in the tech industry, so it's not difficult at all to believe that antitrust actions were taken to prevent poaching. There is no serious race in the mobile wireless services market so why do you believe that antitrust activities in this respect are occurring? | |
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| | | | | said by openbox9:Do you honestly believe that Daniel Mead calls up Ralph de la Vega and the two of them agree to charge $0.20/msg and sell $20/mth SMS plans? I seriously doubt that. More likely, and what has historically happened, one of the companies sets a price, then the others match that price. That's not collusion, it's a happy oligopoly.
No, they have a staff of crooks to do that so they can deny any knowledge/involvement. | |
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join:2009-12-22
Siren, WI
kudos:2 | said by WernerSchutz:Yeah, collusion does that. Where is the investigation ? Because it isn't collusion... All the cell phone providers just charge the same because that's what people will pay. | |
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QLR
join:2009-06-23
Tallahassee, FL | Is Google Voice capable of sending/receiving MMS messages? I receive and send quite a few pictures from different carriers. Google voice solved the SMS problem. Email isn't always feasible when sending pictures to other phones. Until then, I'll keep my $10 for 500 non-Verizon messages. | |
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join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
kudos:2 | Re: Is Google Voice capable of sending/receiving MMS messages? No  | |
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| | QLR
join:2009-06-23
Tallahassee, FL | Re: Is Google Voice capable of sending/receiving MMS messages? I did a test from a T-Mobile phone... and it failed | |
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| |  CoronaIt's cool, I'm takin it backPremium
join:2000-03-14
Dallas, TX | I can (and do) send and receive SMS messages on my Google Voice number all the time. | |
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| | | openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
kudos:2 | Re: Is Google Voice capable of sending/receiving MMS messages? Of course, and so do I. How about those MMS messages?  | |
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cramer
join:2007-04-10
Raleigh, NC
kudos:5 | Just great... It took a week of constant bitching to get my employer to turn on the f'ing $5 plan. It's going to be a bloodbath to get them to fork over $10. | |
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| CoronaIt's cool, I'm takin it backPremium
join:2000-03-14
Dallas, TX | Re: Just great... if you have the $5 plan, you are grandfathered in | |
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join:2000-10-12
Homestead, FL
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| Conundrum - to text or not to text I am sure they are just going to eliminate it as an available plan. I have the $5 plan on my phone and my wife's. She typically uses more than the 200 a month and I don't. However she doesn't use enough to add an extra $5 to her bill. Now, if they had a better family text plan that would be great. But I just don't text that much. I have already told my kids if they want a phone they have to pay for the phone and plan themselves. | |
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| CoronaIt's cool, I'm takin it backPremium
join:2000-03-14
Dallas, TX Reviews:
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| Re: Conundrum - to text or not to text said by lordfly:I am sure they are just going to eliminate it as an available plan. I have the $5 plan on my phone and my wife's. She typically uses more than the 200 a month and I don't. However she doesn't use enough to add an extra $5 to her bill. Now, if they had a better family text plan that would be great. But I just don't text that much. I have already told my kids if they want a phone they have to pay for the phone and plan themselves.
I'm happy with their family texting plan. $30 for unlimited on all phones.
I've got 3 phones on my family plan, so that's only $10 per phone to me.
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join:2000-10-12
Homestead, FL Reviews:
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| Re: Conundrum - to text or not to text said by Corona:said by lordfly:I am sure they are just going to eliminate it as an available plan. I have the $5 plan on my phone and my wife's. She typically uses more than the 200 a month and I don't. However she doesn't use enough to add an extra $5 to her bill. Now, if they had a better family text plan that would be great. But I just don't text that much. I have already told my kids if they want a phone they have to pay for the phone and plan themselves.
I'm happy with their family texting plan. $30 for unlimited on all phones. I've got 3 phones on my family plan, so that's only $10 per phone to me. [att=1] I do have three phones on my plan, but one is an emergency phone that I have for my mother-in-law. She does not text and only talks on it if necessary. She averages less than 30 minutes a month.
So her phone is only $9.99/mo plus taxes, etc. No data plan, no insurance no extras.
Like I said, I am from the generation where I had to work for my own stuff. So my kids are not going to be running up my bills. They have to earn it the hard way. | |
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| | | CoronaIt's cool, I'm takin it backPremium
join:2000-03-14
Dallas, TX | Re: Conundrum - to text or not to text I wasn't implying you pay their way, but if you pool your plans, they can pay you for their phones/texting at the group rate. | |
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| | Never paying for texts again I use text free & google voice if I must communicate via a traditional text, otherwise, Instant message, google voice or Skype are my chosen choice of communication.
I dropped my 200 text per month plan a few months ago, and I have not missed it.
Its so stupid to pay $10 for 1000 texts, which are just a few kb in size each... | |
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| | Karl it only gets worse for ATT customers.... Now ATT is copying Verizon by ridding themselves of early upgrade discounts (similar to the sudden abolishment of VZ's NE2) upping family line upgrade fees, upping the price on international LD and roaming fees and GET THIS.. Upping the price of the MicroCell...
Collusion anyone? | |
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| openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
kudos:2 | Re: Karl it only gets worse for ATT customers.... It's not collusion. It's a happy oligopoly. Big difference in the means, same result in the end. | |
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WhatNowPremium
join:2009-05-06
Charlotte, NC | As long as it sells You can complain all you want but until people vote with their wallet as stated above they will keep selling the service.
Just as the cable company is starting to feel the cord cutting. The only plan I have seen as unfair is forcing you to have a data plan on cell phones even if you don't want it. If it is an option then do without if you don't like the terms. If it was your business what would you do if customers keep paying you? | |
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 JimThePCGuyFormerly known as schja01.Premium,MVM
join:2000-04-27
Morton Grove, IL | Google Voice is not an SMS panacea There are MANY web sites for which Google Voice SMS does not work. Believe me I've tried. | |
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|  pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD | Re: Google Voice is not an SMS panacea said by JimThePCGuy:There are MANY web sites for which Google Voice SMS does not work. Believe me I've tried. Then those sites need to get with the times. Paying for texts is so 2000s.
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| | JimThePCGuyFormerly known as schja01.Premium,MVM
join:2000-04-27
Morton Grove, IL | Re: Google Voice is not an SMS panacea Many sites want to know your actual cellular carrier before they will send you SMS notifications. Google Voice does not appear to be a cell phone carrier to these sites. | |
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| | | pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD | Re: Google Voice is not an SMS panacea said by JimThePCGuy:Many sites want to know your actual cellular carrier before they will send you SMS notifications. Google Voice does not appear to be a cell phone carrier to these sites.
Indeed. Like I said, these sites need to get with the times. Paying for texting is obsolete. A company that doesn't want to text me for whatever limitations it refuses to overcome isn't going to get my business.
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| $20 for unlimited texts is still $20 too much Amazing that people continue to pay these outlandish fees for text messaging - which literally costs the carriers pennies to provide. It's a cash cow of enormous proportions.
Google Voice does the trick for me. It's not perfect but $240+ a year for TEXT MESSAGING? They're nuts. | |
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| | Screw you, ATT. I'm outta here. I'd been on the fence about eBaying-our iPhones and switching to Verizon. This gets me off the fence. I'm outta the Death Star like Han Solo.
And I even use TextFree... | |
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| | | Re: Screw you, ATT. I'm outta here. Hey, if you are leaving ATT for VZW and have an iphone 4 to sell, lemme know. I want one to unlock and put a votafon  sim card in for trip.
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join:2003-09-22
San Jose, CA
 ·PHONE POWER
·Comcast
| family txting for $30 works well unlimited... three lines. $10 each net cost.
Averaging 10,000 txts a month. Of course, one of those lines belongs to a teen, so that's about 8,500 of the 10k.
The $5 for 200 one seems to be the only loss here, and it was the most expensive option. Those folks might be better off getting rid of txt messaging.
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