 etaadmin
join:2002-01-17 Dallas, TX | Elegant? AT&T CEO Randall Stephenson called it "a more elegant build plan.
I call FTTH/FTTP elegant, I wonder what is his definition of 'elegant' IPTV via morse code? | |
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  darthur2000
join:2002-01-02 Middletown, CT clubs: | Waiting U-Verse, heck I'm still waiting for the DSL they said would be availble buy the end of 2002 in my neighborhood. I guess I can expect U-Verse sometime around the end of the century then. | |
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 iansltx
join:2007-02-19 Golden, CO | They had better not cap... ...or people will stick with Comcast or other such places, unless they're in Beaumont...
18/1.5 service is nice and fast...when you don't have the TV on. But a 150GB cap on said service is just outright lame. | |
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  darthur2000
join:2002-01-02 Middletown, CT clubs: 1 edit | Re: Waiting deleted duplicate post | |
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  dwhayden
join:2000-12-23 Greenwood, IN | Patiently Waiting I'm just a few houses away from being able to get Uverse, and based on the way my neighborhood is laid out it's not likely AT&T will install a closer VRAD anytime in the near future.
Do you think this news may also push out pair bonding? | |
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 |   darknight7
@rr.com
| Re: Patiently Waiting I think they're wasting their time. They should have gone with FTTH. I have watched them prep my neighborhood for U-Verse. The installation of the VRAD is the easiest thing involved with U-Verse. They have had to dig, inspect and reconfigure every little box throughout the neighborhood. In the process they screwed up my telephone service. They could have strung fiber in 1/5 of the effort involved with U-Verse. Then they will have to do it all over again in 5 years since between SDV and DOCSIS 3.0, cable has them beat. | |
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join:2001-10-31 NOT Texas! | And this is based on how many years of experience? | |
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 |   burgerwars
join:2004-09-11 Northridge, CA
·voip.ms
·RoadRunner Cable
| said by dwhayden :I'm just a few houses away from being able to get Uverse, and based on the way my neighborhood is laid out it's not likely AT&T will install a closer VRAD anytime in the near future. Do you think this news may also push out pair bonding? Wait a couple of million years. Geologic drift should take care of this for you. | |
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  Matt Gone playing Dragon Age Origins Premium join:2003-07-20 Jamestown, NC | Availability not the problem?
It seems to me that availability isn't the problem if the people who have it available to them aren't signing up. It looks like AT&T underestimated the uptake rate. | |
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 |   jmn1207 Premium join:2000-07-19 Reston, VA
·Verizon FIOS
| Re: Availability not the problem? said by Matt :It seems to me that availability isn't the problem if the people who have it available to them aren't signing up. It looks like AT&T underestimated the uptake rate. Also, they probably already have a budget allocated for advertising/marketing. They merely have to change the target and content. Building more infrastructure costs more, no matter how you plan it.
The way I read it, they are simply looking for a way to reduce their spending over the next year. Rather than pull money from the marketing department, they opted to delay their build-out. | |
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join:2001-01-26 Valencia, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
·DSL EXTREME
| Re: Availability not the problem? Maybe they're fix the issues with VoIP on Uverse.
Many areas have Uverse TV/Internet but are still tied to POTS.
Could it be that they're going to.. a) Get VoIP working (i.e. Los Angeles area has no AT&T Uverse VoIP) b) Create a usable bundle with cellphone/microcell tied into their Uverse service | |
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 |   Matt Gone playing Dragon Age Origins Premium join:2003-07-20 Jamestown, NC | I see. That makes perfect sense. Thanks guys. | |
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@ameritech.net
| Re: Availability not the problem? Should not this great next gen service sell it's self?
By having to spend so much on marketing they should see for themselfs that the deployment of FTTN instead of FTTH is flawed.
Looks like short term savings will cost more in the long run. | |
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join:2005-12-22 Canonsburg, PA
| Re: Availability not the problem? said by papafrag :
Should not this great next gen service sell it's self?
By having to spend so much on marketing they should see for themselfs that the deployment of FTTN instead of FTTH is flawed.
Looks like short term savings will cost more in the long run. Don't know if it will cost more in the long run but U-Verse costs keep going up while Verizon's costs for FiOS keep going down. | |
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join:2001-01-03 Chicago, IL
·AT&T Midwest
| said by Matt :It seems to me that availability isn't the problem if the people who have it available to them aren't signing up. It looks like AT&T underestimated the uptake rate. U-verse is available here but it just cost to much for what you get. With a low priced satellite deal and super fast cable connection you get more for the $$$. | |
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  lordfly
join:2000-10-12 Homestead, FL | Oh great.... Now my 4-5 year deployment (estimated) is now going to be 9-10 year deployment. I won't be able to sell my house because it doesn't have U-verse. Even though I don't plan to move for a very very very long time. | |
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  CUBS_FAN Next Year Again..
join:2005-04-28 Chicago, IL | I knew this would be reported They installed VRADS all over my neck of the woods but still no word of when it will be launched. They better hurry because by the time March roll's by Comcast will deploy DOCSIS 3.0 speeds. | |
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 DavesCompute
join:2005-09-28 Lansing, IL
| Still have lead U-Verse is deployed in my neighborhood. But it will not work at my end of the block, we still have lead lines in our alley. I have a couple of neighbors that have tried to get it. It does not work over lead...you need copper. I they can't even up grade us to copper, how are they going to sell us advanced services.
I guess I'll stay with Comcast. | |
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 |   Kevdawg
@ameritech.net | Re: Still have lead The cable itself isnt lead, just the sheath that covers the cable pairs. In order for U-verse to work, you must have twisted pairs in the loop. | |
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 |   TransEng1
@bellsouth.net
| said by DavesCompute :U-Verse is deployed in my neighborhood. But it will not work at my end of the block, we still have lead lines in our alley. I have a couple of neighbors that have tried to get it. It does not work over lead...you need copper. I they can't even up grade us to copper, how are they going to sell us advanced services. I guess I'll stay with Comcast. My friend, lead is not the content of the wires in the cable, lead is the sheath covering. Telephone wires (cable pairs) have been copper since before I was born except the disastrous experiment with aluminum. All telephone cables are either covered with polyethylene or lead. The problem with lead is keeping the water out. I can assure you that there is no such thing as a lead cable pair. Your problem has to do with cable characteristics. Either the loop is too long, there is interfering technology already in the cable, or there are faults in the cable which can be fixed but with the newer generation of cable repairmen, most don't know how to work on lead. | |
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 kevinm5
join:2008-05-27 Willows, CA
·AT&T DSL Service
| Why get less for more? I'm not in a U-Verse area but don't those areas already get advertisements of the service. If those didn't work then people don't want the service. In many cases cable internet is noticeably faster especially with upload. VDSL maxes out at 1Mb Up and cable can be around 2+ (5+ with Doc 3). | |
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 |  Fisamo Premium join:2004-02-20 Apex, NC
·AT&T CallVantage
·VOIPo
| Re: Why get less for more? I'm in a very new U-verse area. They just announced the rollout earlier this month. Its availability around here is spotty--some areas of Cary and Raleigh are fairly well covered, other areas are very patchy. Despite the recent 'launch', there hasn't been much marketing of the service that I've seen, beyond the press release announcing initial availability. Of course, there's a small VRAD farm about 1/4 mile outside my neighborhood in one direction and a fairly large VRAD in another direction, but is my neighborhood serviced? NO... I'm hoping, but not holding my breath.
For the sake of full disclosure, I'm not salivating over Uverse simply because it's AT&T or just because it's not TWC. Simply put, my options here are Clearwire, TWC/Earthlink (7M/384k regular, 10M/512k Turbo), or DSL (at my address, max of 1.5/256k, I think). | |
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  NetAdmin CCNA
join:2008-05-22
| Guess they didn't get the memo here In the last month and a half, I've seen ATT and its contractors running conduit all over the place and have seen five new VRADS installed and powered up. In just the last week, I've seen them bore out and install almost two miles of new conduit. -- "This is a bus. You know how big a bus is?" | |
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 Madtown
join:2008-04-26 Madera, CA | Madera, Ca Parkwood. Maybe Madera will get it sooner and I'm hoping in the Parkwood area. | |
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 qworster
join:2001-11-25 Los Angeles, CA | U-Verse is five blocks away from me... And I guess it will continue to be for another year...  | |
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 |  decifal
join:2007-03-10 Bon Aqua, TN
| Re: U-Verse is five blocks away from me... said by qworster :And I guess it will continue to be for another year... And probably another three years before I see any chance in hell of a broadband service from them.. But should I expect from such a large provider that's slowly forming a monopoly? /sigh I think i'm going to just go back to smoke signals and somehow use it to surf the internet and send e-mail.. Or smoke mail if I go such a way...
Damn technology retrogression | |
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 claykin
join:2003-08-22 Fort Lauderdale, FL | Awaiting Federal bail out $$ So they announce they are slowing Uverse build out. Next thing they'll be receiving Federal bailout $$$ to create "new jobs" to start up the build out again. | |
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 |   spg Grrrr
join:2001-10-31 NOT Texas! | Re: Awaiting Federal bail out $$ Or they're slowing down the build out so that they don't need the bail out.
They're actually sitting pretty good. -- Life is hard. It's harder if you're stupid. - John Wayne | |
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 edactic
join:2005-08-21 Indianapolis, IN
·Comcast
| Just across the street... The uverse rollout on my street has been frustrating. Over a year ago, sections of my neighborhood with homes just like ours started getting uverse. But their utilities run above ground on utility poles. Our utilities run below ground, and we are still waiting with no deployment date in site. Only ATT thing available on my street is absolute lowest-end DSL package. Thus stuck with Comcast. | |
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  offpayroll
@sbcglobal.net | layoffs are the real reason Lay-offs. are the real reason they are slowing the build. | |
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  pizmo pete
join:2007-10-24 Portland, CT
| Rat trap!
I smell a rat, timing is perfect, wait out the strike...contractor work force...stupid managers, taking 36 hrs for uverse installs.....nooo the tragedy of it all and randilldo will work for $1too, just to keep the build going till 2010, Another Twist & Turn. | |
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  new customer
@comcast.net | taxes--uverse Can anyone tell me what taxes they pay on their Uverse bill? State and Federal--how much as a percentage? any other fees or surcharges? | |
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  Mr Anon
@comcast.net
| AT&T just cannot get their corporate act together.... They always seem to have it ass-backwards. If they were to provide U-Verse to customers who do not have it, they would be able to see a drastic increase in revenue that much sooner.
As usual, idiots in upper level management are actually doing more harm than good to AT&T's bottom line.
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