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1 edit | I guess it doesn't apply to northern NJ I just went to the AT&T site and was able to select an iPhone for purchase on a new plan in my zip code. I am only 12 miles west of NYC (as the crow flies).
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kudos:12 | Re: I guess it doesn't apply to northern NJ said by celeritypc:I just went to the AT&T site and was able to select an iPhone for purchase on a new plan in my zip code. I am only 12 miles west of NYC (as the crow flies). Sure enough, if I put in an NYC zip code, iPhones are not available. This also happened to a friend of mine here in Greensboro. She also called and they told her they weren't showing 3G coverage in our area and if she really wanted an iPhone, she needed to go into a store to buy one. I don't think it's coincidental that I had awful, awful service and she lives two miles from me and they wouldn't sell her one.
I'm guessing AT&T knows their network is overburdened, knows their exclusivity is about to end, so they aren't trying to help Apple sell more iPhones and aren't trying to further burden their network, but also don't want their stores full of iPhones either.
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kudos:2 | hey AT&T... Droid does NYC. | |
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2 edits | You would think it's a fraud issue if they were concerned about network congestion, why would they only stop online sales? And why would they even go to a drastic measure like stopping sales when that would surely not put much of a dent in the network congestion, at least in the short term? And, I would think that a large portion of the iPhones in use in NYC during the day are purchased in the suburbs (upstate NY, Connecticut, NJ, Long Island), so this would not change that.
I would bet that they are seeing some sort of big organized crime activity around purchasing iPhones online using stolen credit card numbers and having them delivered to addresses in NYC.
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Ashburn, VA | Re: You would think it's a fraud issue At the moment, there are only guesses as to what might be going on. Perhaps those customers that would purchase an iPhone online are statistically more likely to gobble up precious bandwidth, whereas a consumer that walks into a store to make a purchase is probably not going to be utilizing the online features quite as extensively.  | |
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| Re: You would think it's a fraud issue said by jmn1207:At the moment, there are only guesses as to what might be going on. Oh I agree with that 100% and I am not pretending to do anything but guess at this point. But this smells to me much more like a fraud prevention measure than an attempt to mitigate network congestion. | |
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| Re: You would think it's a fraud issue said by MyDogHsFleas:said by jmn1207:At the moment, there are only guesses as to what might be going on. Oh I agree with that 100% and I am not pretending to do anything but guess at this point. But this smells to me much more like a fraud prevention measure than an attempt to mitigate network congestion. exactly! why would AT&T actually try to mitigate network congestion?
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| Re: You would think it's a fraud issue I wouldn't overly sell yourself on the sprint network. I used my sister's smartphone on sprint's network over the weekend. needless to say, if that's the best they have, AT&T isn't going to have any problems for a long while.
It took me 3 tries just to get here. I tried to wish everyone a merry christmas and that "smartphone" wouldn't even post my message even after I logged in.
I got in once and that's about all I got. I know it's a samsung phone, Don't know the model though. it looks about like the iphone but it has apps that are bars across the screen. has a arrow to the left, a house key, and I forgot the third key. When it's lit up they were in white.
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| | | |  NOVA_GuyObamaCare Kills AmericansPremium
join:2002-03-05 | Re: You would think it's a fraud issue Yeah, I know what you mean... I had a Palm Pre on Sprint but dumped them a couple weeks ago and left for Verizon and the Droid. It was a good choice; I'm much happier now.
BTW, anyone who's interested in getting out of a contract with Sprint now could use their $0.20/line/month regulatory fee adjustment as a way to get out of the contract. If you got a notice about this in your December bill, all you should have to do is call them and let them know you would like to cancel service without an ETF. When one party to a contract makes a material change to it, the other party has the right to opt out without any penalties.
$0.20/month let me cancel my Sprint contract, 3 months in, without any ETF. And the Palm Pre is now headed over to eBay. I think they may have actually lost money by having me as a customer, by the time you factor in subsidies and the rebate I got on the phone. 
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kudos:4 |  AT&T selling online again in NYC
Looks like AT&T (T) has gone and “modified its promotion and distribution channels” again. Either that or it’s gotten a better handle on the “online fraudulent activity” that prevented it from selling Apple’s (AAPL) iPhone online to customers with New York City zip codes. The carrier’s Web site is once again accepting iPhone orders from potential customers living in Manhattan. I was just able to initiate two orders for the iPhone 3GS using New York city zip codes (click on image below to enlarge) — one in mid-town (10016), another in East Harlem (10029).
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kudos:2 | Re: They don't get it ...or just walk into the store. I believe an online fraud issue seems logical. Otherwise, they would be pulled from stores too. A wider area at that.
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| | | | | Re: They don't get it Why would they limit it to NYC then? I can order one online and I'm just a few miles from TWO AT&T corporate stores. | |
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Dayton, MD | Re: They don't get it New York City is a cesspool of vices and appeals to man's baser instincts. It deserves to be excluded form these great gifts. /joke mostly
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| | | | said by Selenia:...or just walk into the store. I believe an online fraud issue seems logical. Otherwise, they would be pulled from stores too. A wider area at that. If it is indeed online fraud, than what makes NYC so special? What kind of info does AT&T ask you when ordering the phone online, besides your name, address and SSN so that they can check your credit? I know if it's in store, they also ask for government-issued photo ID, do they ask for anything else online so that they can verify that you are who you say you are?
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| | | Re: If Fraud Was the Problem, They Could Blacklist those Phones Almost all carriers have abandoned the ESN/IMEI blacklist not just AT&T. If it makes a dent in revenue they are not going to use it. | |
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| | | | Re: If Fraud Was the Problem, They Could Blacklist those Phones And the EU mandated such a list and that ESNs be burned into non-volatile RAM. To the best of my knowledge, it did reduce phone theft. | |
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kudos:1 | Re: It has to be a fraud issue. I really hope Apple's new iPhone is June 28th or so will not be going to AT&T.
I hope that the greedy basterds at AT&T go to hell for there stupidity and laziness to upgrade the network, but instead stop selling smart phones, and most likely will not accept any good ones ever again.
Hopefully they go down the drain for slowing us down.
We as a race should be technology savy people, and should always be looking up at newer/better/faster things, but some of these companies just dont care about anything but higher profits.
The day will come, no more smart phones for AT&T, no more iPhone on AT&T, and there stock will finally take a huge hit and there saving of every single penny for a few years would be for nothing.
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One would think if the demand is this high for the iPhone in NYC, that AT&T would put whatever money necessary to ensure the capacity is sufficient. And as long as the iPhone has been hugely successful, they surely can't be surprised by its bandwidth hungry network profile. | |
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kudos:1 | Walk onto a floor of a building on 30th st/8th & 7th ave and try to place a phone call on the iPhone. walk in circles.
Then try with any phone on Verizon.
the iPhone and AT&T aren't ready for New York. Not in the slightest.
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kudos:1 | Re: Walk onto a floor of a building on 30th st/8th & 7th ave Well the iPhone is. AT&T isnt. I use an iPhone on T-Mobile and never have the issues the AT&T users. I get so tired of the Apple haters. Put the blame where it belongs. If it were the phone, you would read of iPhone users on T-Mobile having all the problems that AT&T users have. T-Mobile estimates they have half a million iPhones on their network, BTW. So you would be sure and read of some complaining, if there were problems. | |
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1 edit | Re: Walk onto a floor of a building on 30th st/8th & 7th ave I don't see people with curves or bolds on AT&T having the connectivity problems that AT&T has with the iPhone. iPhones kill the network. 1 iPhone is the network load of many times as many bolds.
I'm not saying the blackberry is a more desirable device. However, it is more efficient and less load on a network than an iPhone.
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| | | | | Re: Walk onto a floor of a building on 30th st/8th & 7th ave My Bold was a complete POS walking around midtown. Had to divorce ATT and eat the etf. I'm sure Iphones are part of the problem too, but this really is about ATT. | |
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1 edit | Re: Walk onto a floor of a building on 30th st/8th & 7th ave said by dabigman:My Bold was a complete POS walking around midtown. Had to divorce ATT and eat the etf. I'm sure Iphones are part of the problem too, but this really is about ATT. I cave, AT&T sucks in New York.
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kudos:1 | Oh I had a crappy little Samsung flip phone on AT&T Cingular a couple of years ago and all I had were dropped calls, one way conversations, misrouted calls... then I got a Razer, and had more of the same--so dont be blaming the phone. AT&T has a terrible network here in Los Angeles, they are the worst of the four big providers. It was bad before the iPhone was ever invented.
Again, if the phone was such a problem, we would see the same issues on T-Mobile's network, and we dont. The iPhone is just a phone, not some magic network sucking device. It hooks up to the network like any other phone, right? How does it magically consume the network? | |
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said by LowRider:Seriously, every huge company or most anyway always slow the pace that technology progresses. Why did Cingular have to sale, they had such a wonderful service going then AT&T F-ED it up!!! You do realize that this "new" AT&T is not the same as "old" AT&T. Cingular was founded and co-owned by SBC and Bell South. At one point, SBC bought the remains of the old "AT&T" and inherited the only useful thing from them: the name. At about the same time, they merged with Bell South and re-branded themselves as AT&T. As the last step, they re-branded Cingular, which was by then owned by one company, as AT&T as well.
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