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AT&T Sues Users Who Sued to Stop T-Mobile Merger
Tries to Head Off Arbitration Effort at the Pass

AT&T has long tried to use fine print to try and ban their customers from suing them via class action, instead forcing users into binding arbitration where corporations win more often than not. Despite the fact that many lower courts declared such activity violated user rights and was "unconscionable," the Supreme Court earlier this year ruled in AT&T's favor, meaning most companies will be following suit.

Despite this new mouseprint infringement on your legal rights, back in July we noted how the New York-based law firm of Bursor & Fisher was trying to stop the $39 billion AT&T T-Mobile deal by signing users up for arbitration -- a process they recently stated resulted in 1,000 users signing up to participate. AT&T has insisted that this effort would fail, but for good measure has effectively sued those who sued to stop the merger in an effort to quash this arbitration approach. From the AT&T complaint:
quote:
"Bursor and Faruqi's [another attorney assisting Bursor & Fisher's lawsuit] scheme plainly violates the arbitration agreement between ATTM and defendant. Among other limitations on the scope of arbitration, the agreement expressly precludes 'any form of representative or class proceeding' and permits claims for injunctive relief 'only in favor of the individual party seeking relief and only to the extent necessary to provide relief warranted by that party's individual claim.'"
The firm behind the attempt obviously doesn't see it that way:
quote:
"AT&T's filing of these lawsuits appears to be an act of desperation, since AT&T now realizes it faces a substantial likelihood that one or more of these arbitration [cases] will indeed stop the takeover from happening," Bursor said. "But AT&T's legal arguments are frivolous. We expect the courts will reject AT&T's arguments and dismiss these cases very quickly. AT&T's desperate lawsuits will not interfere with the ongoing arbitration proceedings."
AT&T lost an appeal to the American Arbitration Association to block administration of the cases, and now the cases have moved forward -- causing AT&T to sweat a little. AT&T has had a busy and troubling few weeks as they try to push their T-Mobile through. Last week we posted details from a accidentally publicized document that highlight how AT&T's primary justification for the deal -- that they couldn't deploy LTE fully without T-Mobile -- appears to be entirely fabricated.
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ArrayList
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stay classy AT&T


tpkatl
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How low can AT&T go? They demean themselves.

If the stakes weren't so high, this would be almost comical.

What is AT&T afraid of? That their deceptions will be revealed?

How can a company have such little respect for their customer base that they sue them for fighting a a rule that AT&T forced on them and got a court to rubber stamp?

Remember the movie Colossus: The Forbin Project - where the computer got so big and powerful it held the rest of the world hostage to its whims? How is AT&T different from the malevolent computer in that movie?
Best line in the movie: In a final remark, addressed to Dr. Forbin, the machines predict: "In time, you will come to regard me not only with respect and awe, but with love." Forbin replies: "Never."
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Re: How low can AT&T go? They demean themselves.

said by tpkatl:

What is AT&T afraid of? That their deceptions will be revealed?

I'd suggest that AT&T is more concerned about delays and complications for the acquisition, nothing more, nothing less.

Gbcue
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I'm surprised why Anonymous hasn't hacked AT&T and stolen all of their gold.
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Re: How low can AT&T go? They demean themselves.

I really wish that Anonymous would hack them and get the emails and other proofs to bust this company into smaller pieces.Talk about abusing the Government and our laws they somehow get the Supreme Court to rule in their favor and that same asshole court made a ruling about the Corporations are People BS.
One of these days a lot of people will just go bat shit and start taking down things in the country.The system has long been broken and it is getting worse out there.

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sadly, they'd be able to get the keys to the kingdom, in a jiffy.
I'm by no means, a fan of what "Anonymous" is doing, but IF they did take up an attack on the 'new' at&t, they could bring the whole network, to it's knees, with just a little effort.

Back in the late 90s, some clown in San Francisco configured up a solaris box, as a NIS+ client, with SBC/PBI's NIS+ master as it's NIS+ master. Welcome to being able to see EVERY account that SBC/PBI has, and it's password. Nowdays, the NIS+ farm is only used for Internal/Employee accounts ... and it's behind an ACL, but it's still out there. There are shared accounts galore (which violate at&t Corporate Security's own policy) that have very, very poor passwords... Systems that have passwordless backdoors into entire portions of the national infrastructure ...

With a little bit of inside information, which wouldn't be hard to come by, those Anonymous clowns would be able to take the 'new' at&t offline! What's worse, the Classic BS management has run off enough of the really, really strong talent, it would take at&t some time, to put humpty dumpty back together again :/
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Anonymous probably has hacked ATT, but can't find the gold. Probably a good use-case of "left hand doesn't know what the right is doing" - everything is scattered about.
tmc8080
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merger or armageddon....

»www.youtube.com/watch?v= ··· 7yI&NR=1

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lol

People cry at AT&T but still pay the bill at the end of the month and sign up for another two years of service. Keep paying fools, keep paying. You all are the equivalent to crack heads and the guy selling the stuff is AT&T.

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Re: lol

The thing is, GSM is way better than cruddy CDMA. I got my ass kicked form Sprint for using 30 gigs of roaming in a month, and now my HTC EVO is useless.

Verizon is just as bad these days too, they got rid of their unlimited, so there is like no point to go to Verizon. Just go to ATT and get a gophone unlimited, put the sim card in like your laptop and bam, unlimited mobile 3g.

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Re: lol

If the carriers do not want to offer unlimited then they won't offer it. It's a battle of wits, as a consumer I will not pay for those kinds of services because A. I cannot afford them. B. I find them ludicrous. C. I don't agree with their form of business.

With that said I gave my money to another carrier, yes I don't have 3G services with them but I have unlimited voice/text/data on a blackberry for $60. A price I can afford, a business model that I can agree with, and a business that is straight forward with what I am getting for the price I pay.

I have no problem downgrading and not have 3G. I would love to have it, but I won't pay a ridiculous amount for it either. The only thing I can't do on my phone which people who have 3G can is listen to internet radio in high quality and watch videos on my phone. No biggie, not worth a extra $50 dollars on my bill for it.
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said by JigglyWiggly:

The thing is, GSM is way better than cruddy CDMA. I got my ass kicked form Sprint for using 30 gigs of roaming in a month, and now my HTC EVO is useless.

Verizon is just as bad these days too, they got rid of their unlimited, so there is like no point to go to Verizon. Just go to ATT and get a gophone unlimited, put the sim card in like your laptop and bam, unlimited mobile 3g.

Wait what did Sprint do? By 30 gigs of roaming... are you implying you don't have WiMax in your area?
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Re: lol

said by sonicmerlin:

said by JigglyWiggly:

The thing is, GSM is way better than cruddy CDMA. I got my ass kicked form Sprint for using 30 gigs of roaming in a month, and now my HTC EVO is useless.

Verizon is just as bad these days too, they got rid of their unlimited, so there is like no point to go to Verizon. Just go to ATT and get a gophone unlimited, put the sim card in like your laptop and bam, unlimited mobile 3g.

Wait what did Sprint do? By 30 gigs of roaming... are you implying you don't have WiMax in your area?

Nor Sprint service either, if you're roaming that much...
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said by michieru:

People cry at AT&T but still pay the bill at the end of the month and sign up for another two years of service. Keep paying fools, keep paying. You all are the equivalent to crack heads and the guy selling the stuff is AT&T.

I canceled all my AT&T service.

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Re: lol

said by Rekrul:

I canceled all my AT&T service.

Good.

Its the only thing these companies understand. Complaints do nothing.
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I cancelled T-Mobile and jumped to Virgin Mobile for LG Optimus V and a $35/month plan. I'd like to go with Sprint but without a voice plan for a smartphone. Well, at least I spent $125 for Optimus V and I'm not subjected to a 2-year contract.

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Thank you for answering with your wallet, this is how it should be done.

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Reminds me...

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You know ATT is looking out for your interests...

when they sue fellow customers to put them back in line to 'serviced' by their monthly bills et al. All ATT wants to do crush competition and restore the once great Ma' Bell to her glory. What possible harm could ever come from such a thing? ATT knows customers are confused with all the choices and just wants to make the it easier for customers to choose a wireless provider!

PS: think ATT has any PR/legal job openings? :P

liaa
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at&t LMAO

What kind of a moron company can they be opps they just proved it again. Yes I know they still get what their payoffs they spent customer money on lol

KrK
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AT&T Believes in a Nation of Laws....

.... By the Corporations, For the Corporations.

CorpSlave
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Re: AT&T Believes in a Nation of Laws....

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United Corporations of America,
and to the republicans for which they serve,
one nation under corporate control,
indivisible, with bondage, and servitude for all.
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interesting article: »arstechnica.com/tech-pol ··· -too.ars

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When you remove all legal recourse...

... the only thing that remains is illegal recourse. However, THAT means these days that you are a *TERRORIST* and then the companies can sic the jack booted thugs on you, and what happens after that the world may never know.
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What's more unconscionable

is that the "mandatory arbitration" does not go both ways. AT&T's users cannot sue AT&T -- but AT&T can go right ahead and sue its users?! wat

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Re: What's more unconscionable

said by romulusnr:

is that the "mandatory arbitration" does not go both ways. AT&T's users cannot sue AT&T -- but AT&T can go right ahead and sue its users?! wat

Exactly what I though.

Sheesh! What a f***ed up place we live in now a days!!

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This is a very interesting point... if there's binding arbitration, and the users did not file any suits (IE violate the terms of the agreement), how can AT&T violate the terms of the agreement and sue the users?

(Knowing AT&T, there's probably a loophole written in that allows them to sue anyone, anytime, but not vice versa)
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Switching ISP

Once my contract with AT&T expire, i will switch to sonic or dslextreme, i don't mind paying a few extra dollar per month, i just start to hate this big company.