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join:2006-01-02 San Ramon, CA | Sonic.net has the same in the works, no? | |
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| No DWDM??? Dense Wavelength Multiplexing (DWDM) obviates the need for more than few [existing] fibers. I mean 96 lambda's on a single fiber -- at say 40gbs each should be more than adequate yes? Now, lets assume they have more than one fiber already laid... -- 50% of Americans vote - 30% are repugs -- do the math. | |
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join:2004-12-27 99999
| Re: No DWDM??? The fact that you can indeed stuff 40gbps over a single piece of glass doesnt mean that the rest of the equation has caught up. There arent many routers out there with OC768 ports on them to send that kind of data over just one connection, it is alot more realistic to run alot more fiber and terminate them in more equipment etc. Most carriers have pops full of ESRs and GSRs to handle OC12s and OC48s... even 192s but 768s are a little obscenely pricey. | |
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  Jameson 1010 Premium join:2004-05-28 Fallbrook, CA clubs:  | Good Good, their network is terrible.. | |
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join:2002-01-22 00000 clubs: | Re: Good it's not difficult or unwise to extrapolate the quality of a network by the offerings of home broadband connections. my bet is that it's decent indicator. | |
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| Re: Good said by morbo :my bet is that it's decent indicator. I wouldn't bet the house... | |
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join:2008-02-13 Hingham, MA
| said by morbo :it's not difficult or unwise to extrapolate the quality of a network by the offerings of home broadband connections. my bet is that it's decent indicator. AT&T's worldwide network is former AT&T ("the old" AT&T) IIRC, while their broadband is the old SBC/BellSouth- probably not the best metric there. | |
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@cox.net | They have one of the oldest networks and when compared to newer networks, like Qwest (their IP backbone division, not the ILEC division), Level3 and others (Limelight, etc.), their network isn't as up to date. | |
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join:2006-10-26 Worcester, MA
| sounds good but they have to remember that if the connection to the their network is poor, then a better backbone is not that useful for all (the whole issue of bottlenecks argument). they also can't neglect the backbone. in the case of ATT's network, i'd like to see a lot of work in upgrading to the eventual FTTH. i don't really mind if they do just FTTN since it shows that they realize that they understand that twisted copper pair phonelines will only get you so far in bandwidth and that they are actively doing something about it. | |
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join:2004-10-26 North Andover, MA | Re: sounds good It will do wonders for their peering agreements, especially from all those Asian ISP's filled with customers that have 100mbs connections. | |
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| Re: The pot calls the kettle black said by timcuth :That's funny, I am an at&t customer and I don't get the speeds they advertise, either. I do. -- Installing OS X on PC hardware is not a "illegal"! | |
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join:2001-01-26 Valencia, CA | Lets shift our webhosting to offshore sites... Is what I expect them to be doing. Eg. www.google.com will be hosted out of Bangalore or Mumbai, along with all your credit cards info, etc. -- Canada = Hollywood North | |
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join:2006-09-17 San Diego, CA | Re: Lets shift our webhosting to offshore sites... i can only say that post-deregulation, post-SBC acquisition AT&T sets the standard for greedy, unethical, uncaring US corporations. | |
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join:2001-01-26 Valencia, CA | Re: Lets shift our webhosting to offshore sites... Most corporations and greed/ethics/uncaring are 2 things that do not mix well. Insurance and U.S. Healthcare industry takes the cake on that one. -- Canada = Hollywood North | |
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join:2005-11-15 Springfield, MO | wait what? so they have 1billion with a B to spend OVER SEAS but cant spend that much AT HOME for REAL FTTH like Verizon
right.... | |
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@bellsouth.net
| Re: wait what? It's just realisation that the U.S. is quickly becoming a third world nation. A third world nation doesn't need a first class internet connection for the masses. We need more loans from China and Dubai to keep the ever thinning veil hiding that we can't afford our current life style. | |
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join:2007-10-06 | ATT give me ftth or give me death!!!!!!!! | |
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@swbell.net | Great for off-shorers Bet this is driven by huge demand from IBM, Microsoft and others that have tens of thousands of employees in India and all over Asia. | |
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@comcast.net
| Re: Great for off-shorers It's just realisation that the U.S. is quickly becoming a third world nation. A third world nation doesn't need a first class internet connection for the masses. We need more loans from China and Dubai to keep the ever thinning veil hiding that we can't afford our current life style. | |
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join:2002-08-16 Lincolnton, NC | better spend money in usa iheard att plans to put tv over phone lines .they better spend a lot more in the usa to solve the problems they have now and wait till they kill bandwidth with tv over phone lines | |
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  KrK Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy Premium join:2000-01-17 Tulsa, OK | All the better to outsource your Tech Jobs to India with... Yes, that bandwidth is needed to fuel connections to exploding Internet usage in China, India, and so on.
Maybe we'll be able to get a halfway decent connection to Japan this way.
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join:2002-04-05 Jamaica, NY | Re: AT&T Atleast expand 3G/HSDPA/UTMS beyond the small chunks of city (not even convering suburbs) that the network is right now. | |
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@swbell.net
| said by bcorley :How about a few lousy million or so to wire RURAL North America. Some suit within ATT must have evaluated the pros and cons and figured this investment is going to make the most profit. | |
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