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AT&T Unveils Wi-Fi U-verse Receiver
$50 (Plus Rental Fee), Available October 31
by Karl Bode 10:40AM Tuesday Oct 25 2011
Earlier this year we noted how a new AT&T U-Verse set top with embedded Wi-Fi for video distribution was winding its way through the FCC approval process. AT&T, like Verizon, is pushing hard to offer cutting edge functionality in the hopes of further eroding cable TV market share. Today AT&T made the device official, the company's website stating that U-Verse users everywhere will be able to order the wireless set top October 31.

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The "industry first" according to AT&T allows users to move their set tops and TVs from room to room without having to worry about wiring (aside from power and HDMI connections, obviously). However, the big sell for AT&T is that the new set top will reduce per-home installation costs for AT&T, who usually uses existing in-home coax but sometimes runs Cat-5 cable throughout the home.

AT&T's mobile hotspot can support up to two wireless U-Verse receivers. The Cisco-made devices cost $50, in addition to the monthly $7 box rental fee. Keep an eye on our AT&T U-Verse user forum for user impressions. An AT&T video below highlights the device's usefulness in more detail.


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wings10
I Am Legend
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South Elgin, IL

Cut the cord.

Very nice.

idjk

@embarqhsd.net

Re: Cut the cord.

Good, been waiting for this- my house 23 yrs old 2 story wired with rg59 cable which works with BrightHouse but may not with ATT. Now all they have to do is offer it in my neighborhood!

ITALIAN926

join:2003-08-16
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These dumb companies are unbelievable. Let the video account sharing begin. This will be a disaster in close vicinity homes; especially with MDU's. These companies truly dont give two shits about the long-term, always the short term.

:rolleyes:

MovieLover76

join:2009-09-11
kudos:1

Re: Cut the cord.

Yea because theirs no way to do that with coax? sigh
People who want to share accounts will, it's a simple as that, regardless of the technology used, plus with a limit of 2 receivers the amount of sharing is severely limited

ITALIAN926

join:2003-08-16
kudos:2

Re: Cut the cord.

Yea, because sharing a wireless connection is the same as burying a coax between houses, or through apartment building walls. You must work for AT&T management.
lol
thedragonmas

join:2007-12-28
Albany, GA
kudos:1

Re: Cut the cord.

said by ITALIAN926:

Yea, because sharing a wireless connection is the same as burying a coax between houses, or through apartment building walls. You must work for AT&T
lol

who said a thing about burying? you think theyd really bother? pffft, nope appartment 1 wants to share with apt 2 for a small "fee" apt 1 runs coax out window to apt 2's window, done. houses? just lay it on the ground.

people do it, if they get caught by being stupid (as in the above example) then so be it.

if companies are so worried about sharing, then maybe they should work on WHY most people share, you know, the COST of service (i blame content providers mostly here, but the isp's/cable co's are to blame as well, i give it a 60/40 split)

ITALIAN926

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Re: Cut the cord.

What youre describing RARELY happens. Exposed outside the buildings? Lay it on the lawn? What ghetto do you live in? Why is it rarely done? Because the PROOF is in plain site !

To compare shared wired connections with wireless is ridiculous. There are literally MILLIONS of people sharing WiFi internet. This will add to that number.

joako
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Re: Cut the cord.

So there's millions of people sharing internet via wifi. Welcome to America, it's totally legal. Great for them.
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wings10
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Re: Cut the cord.

said by joako:

So there's millions of people sharing internet via wifi.

I would not. My speed is for me.

They want it they can pay for it.
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Sr Tech
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New Britain, CT
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Looks like the Cisco/Linksys WET610N, they may only be able to share two devices due to most 2 wire routers a G not N. I cannot wait until they have interference issues in the high dense areas, I wonder at that point if the death star will lobby congress that only providers are allowed to provide wireless to the customer.

Bill Neilson
Premium
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Arlington, VA

Like it but I would be willing to bet the first

version will have plenty of bugs.

Maybe I am wrong though

MovieLover76

join:2009-09-11
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Re: Like it but I would be willing to bet the first

Absolutely it will, as someone who has tried to do wireless streaming of HD video from a simple media server and eventually went back to good old cat5 wiring, wireless is good for your laptop, online gaming and even internet video, but when it comes to multiple HD streams their are just to many real world instances of interference that present themselves. In some locations without a lot of interference it will probably work well, but in interference laden areas, like an apartment building it will have bugs I suspect.

Mr Anon

@k12.il.us

Re: Like it but I would be willing to bet the first

I believe that ATT use to do Wifi installs a long time ago, using an adapter but dropped it. I don't see any reason why this would have an issue. Also you must remember this is a heavily compressed stream.

93388818
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Dallas, TX
Probably right, but leading edge technology typically does have bugs.

Metatron2008
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united state

Lol, so is this 4.0 mpeg 4?

AT&T, your world. Delivered. From a nes.

Denny2000

@smurfit.com

A little pricy

$50 + $7 a month for a wireless router? That is a little pricey considering N routers are cheap now. I hope they allow other vendors router on this setup.
ISurfTooMuch

join:2007-04-23
Tuscaloosa, AL

1 recommendation

Re: A little pricy

No, you pay $50 upfront to get the wireless STB, plus the $7/month you'd normally pay in box rental fees.

This would be most useful for people who have lots of TV's but rarely use all of them. They could take the box to the one they want to watch instead of needing a separate unit for each one. I have a friend in that situation. They have six TV's scattered around the house, but they rarely use some of them. Still, his wife insists that all of them need to have service. Something like this might help him reduce the number of boxes he needs to rent.

AZ_OGM

join:2007-01-12
Phoenix, AZ

Motorola markets are SOL

What about the markets the still have Motorola boxes (if any)? I know they have been trying to convert markets and customers to Cisco equipment for quite some time. And if you switch 1 box to Cisco from Motorola, all of them have to be switched out.

dellsweig
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if it works as well as the microcell.....

Well - if this device works as well (NOT) as the ATT Cisco made microcell - e3veryone will 'love' this feature...

NOT
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IPPlanMan
Holy Cable Modem Batman

join:2000-09-20
Washington, DC
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Waste...

Ridiculous IMHO....

It does explain though why AT&T's LTE deployment has been so anemic... 5 Cities? Seriously? This is what AT&T is spending its time doing? No wonder they want to acquire T-Mobile. They'd rather do stuff like this for people that want to move their television.

Verizon LTE's count is at 165 cities and will be at 178 in a few weeks. Verizon is literally wiping the floor with AT&T.

Hopeless.... and embarrassing.
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etaadmin

join:2002-01-17
Dallas, TX
kudos:1

Re: Waste...

Absolutely!

Instead of filling up the holes in their Swiss cheese uverse coverage area, instead of extending the 3,000 ft limit, instead of upping the SD/HD bit rate and improve picture quality, instead of matching the cableco 50 and 100 Mbps internet they (at&t) choose to come with yet another stupid and useless product.

Another thing that can go wrong with uverse. With this 'thing' they can blame all of uverse problems on WiFi interference.

jseymour

join:2009-12-11
Waterford, MI

"AT&T" + Cisco

What could possibly go wrong?

All they need to do is add Microsoft to the mix and... oh wait: The IPTV is MS. Ok, should be good to go...

Jim

t3ln3t

@clearwire-wmx.net

Re: "AT&T" + Cisco

said by jseymour:

What could possibly go wrong?

All they need to do is add Microsoft to the mix and... oh wait: The IPTV is MS. Ok, should be good to go...

Jim

Yeah ... the whole IPTV platform is M$ based. I believe even the STBs run a stripped down Windows kernel. You should see the server footprint required to run the at&t U-Verse platform. It's obscene!!!
Rekrul

join:2007-04-21
Milford, CT

Yeah, "win-win" for AT&T

Cheaper installation AND they get to charge customers more.

Notice how none of the cable companies ever offer to let the subscriber buy the equipment? AT&T did with the DSL modems, but not with anything else since then.
25139889

join:2011-10-25
Toledo, OH

Re: Yeah, "win-win" for AT&T

and what happens if the box goes out? It's out of warranty and you buy another box? What happens if you move out of their service area unexpectedly after signing up and just bought the box? Do they accept a return on it? OR make you keep it? If they'd make you keep it; someone would be on here and Stop The Cap calling a hold on the presses/blogs and calling for Gov't action to be taken against these companies. Also by renting the box; they will exchange them at any time, provide updates and support for them. They wouldn't do that if you owned the box. It'd be on you and the company that made it.
Rekrul

join:2007-04-21
Milford, CT

Re: Yeah, "win-win" for AT&T

said by 25139889:

and what happens if the box goes out? It's out of warranty and you buy another box? What happens if you move out of their service area unexpectedly after signing up and just bought the box? Do they accept a return on it? OR make you keep it? If they'd make you keep it; someone would be on here and Stop The Cap calling a hold on the presses/blogs and calling for Gov't action to be taken against these companies. Also by renting the box; they will exchange them at any time, provide updates and support for them. They wouldn't do that if you owned the box. It'd be on you and the company that made it.

I didn't say that they should force customers to buy their own box, but it would be nice if they had that option.
25139889

join:2011-10-25
Toledo, OH

Re: Yeah, "win-win" for AT&T

and i didn't say FORCE either. Why have the option? Again; what happens if you move and can't re-use the box? What happens if the box goes out? Who is providing software for those boxes? Who is going to make sure the software stays up to date? You? Okay! I'm sure the cable company would be all for that especially they'd see your account saying "customer owned STB" and they'd say "we're sorry but our network shows that we can see you, you have a nice day" and they hang up. I'm sure you'd be happy with that- as I just said. And someone would be on here bitching about said company not helping you and Stop The Cap would be out claiming that we'd need Gov't Regulation.
Rekrul

join:2007-04-21
Milford, CT

Re: Yeah, "win-win" for AT&T

said by 25139889:

and i didn't say FORCE either. Why have the option? Again; what happens if you move and can't re-use the box?

What if you buy a dishasher, then you move and your new kitchen doesn't have any place that you can put it?

said by 25139889:

What happens if the box goes out?

What happens if your TV breaks? Would you rather rent your TV from the cable company for $20 a month, than own it?

said by 25139889:

Who is providing software for those boxes? Who is going to make sure the software stays up to date?

Why would owning the STB cause it to work any differently than one that you have to rent? It's the same piece of equipment, the only difference is who owns it.

AT&T used to lease phones to all their customers. Then the government ruled that people could buy their own equipment and suddenly everyone was buying custom phones. Guess what, the whole system didn't crashing down like the phone companies predicted. People just got better phones that they didn't have to pay rent on.
thedragonmas

join:2007-12-28
Albany, GA
kudos:1

Re: Yeah, "win-win" for AT&T

said by Rekrul:

said by 25139889:

Who is providing software for those boxes? Who is going to make sure the software stays up to date?

Why would owning the STB cause it to work any differently than one that you have to rent? It's the same piece of equipment, the only difference is who owns it.



you havent read any of the threads around here about getting cablecards to work have you? the standard line from the cable co's is "we dont support that equipment" even when you can prove its because they activate the cablecard wrong (their STB's are 2 way, your STB is 1 way, needs a different type of AUTH) they still go to that line "we dont support that equipment"

so thats how it would be different.

in case you want to read one of those threads.. »CableCARD self-installs
Rekrul

join:2007-04-21
Milford, CT

Re: Yeah, "win-win" for AT&T

said by thedragonmas:

you havent read any of the threads around here about getting cablecards to work have you? the standard line from the cable co's is "we dont support that equipment" even when you can prove its because they activate the cablecard wrong (their STB's are 2 way, your STB is 1 way, needs a different type of AUTH) they still go to that line "we dont support that equipment"

so thats how it would be different.

Who said anything about CableCards?

Scenario #1: You sign up for cable with the standard agreement. The techs come out, hook a STB to each TV, make sure they're working and leave. When you get your bill there's a $7 rental fee for each box.

Scenario #2: You sign up for cable, but tell the company that you want to buy the boxes instead of renting them. The company charges you $100-200 for each box. The techs come out, hook a STB to each TV, make sure they're working and leave. When you get your bill there's no rental fee for the boxes.

Why is this so frigging hard to understand? The cable company would be selling you the EXACT SAME boxes as you'd have if you were renting them, right down to the serial numbers. They would update the same as if you were renting them, because they would be the same damn boxes!

Why does everyone think that the transfer of ownership from the cable company to the customer would suddenly mutate the equipment into something that would no longer work?
thedragonmas

join:2007-12-28
Albany, GA
kudos:1

Re: Yeah, "win-win" for AT&T

said by Rekrul:

said by thedragonmas:

you havent read any of the threads around here about getting cablecards to work have you? the standard line from the cable co's is "we dont support that equipment" even when you can prove its because they activate the cablecard wrong (their STB's are 2 way, your STB is 1 way, needs a different type of AUTH) they still go to that line "we dont support that equipment"

so thats how it would be different.

Who said anything about CableCards?

Scenario #1: You sign up for cable with the standard agreement. The techs come out, hook a STB to each TV, make sure they're working and leave. When you get your bill there's a $7 rental fee for each box.

Scenario #2: You sign up for cable, but tell the company that you want to buy the boxes instead of renting them. The company charges you $100-200 for each box. The techs come out, hook a STB to each TV, make sure they're working and leave. When you get your bill there's no rental fee for the boxes.

Why is this so frigging hard to understand? The cable company would be selling you the EXACT SAME boxes as you'd have if you were renting them, right down to the serial numbers. They would update the same as if you were renting them, because they would be the same damn boxes!

Why does everyone think that the transfer of ownership from the cable company to the customer would suddenly mutate the equipment into something that would no longer work?

ok, then switch out cablecard in my post to "cable modem" even though they are the exact same model, using the exact same firmware, some how since YOU own it its magicaly "not our problem" (our being the cable co)

i get what your saying, i really do, but your not getting that cable co's and the like LOVE to milk rentals and will do every thing they can to make it so you dont want to own, the cable card is a prime example because it lets you buy your own box right now i.e. tivo, htpc, etc but the cable co's (at least mine) make it as difficult as they can on you because you chose to own and try to avoid their rental fee (never mind the fact you pay to have that cablecard since you cant buy your own)

edit: by "our problem" i mean "its not on our end, maybe you should buy a new modem, or better yet if you rent one from us and it dies later will just replace it at no extra charge"
mogamer

join:2011-04-20
Royal Oak, MI

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said by Rekrul:

Cheaper installation AND they get to charge customers more.

Notice how none of the cable companies ever offer to let the subscriber buy the equipment? AT&T did with the DSL modems, but not with anything else since then.

Yes, but you could end up like Dish Network. Where people can buy their own stb's, but still have to pay the monthly receiver fee for everything after the first stb. WOW at least allows clear qam tuners to work with their basic tier (70 sd and local hd channels) without a stb. And cablecos allow people to own their own iinternet modems.

I wonder if this will work with the Xbox 360?
Joe12345678

join:2003-07-22
Des Plaines, IL
Service Electric lets's you buy cable cards with no outlet or rent fees.

But why can't we be more like Canada where you can buy the box (with out outlet or mirroring fees) and they have theme packs.

dvd536
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said by Rekrul:

Cheaper installation AND they get to charge customers more.

Notice how none of the cable companies ever offer to let the subscriber buy the equipment? AT&T did with the DSL modems, but not with anything else since then.

theres just too too too much money in that to EVER let subs buy their own!!1
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SLD
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San Francisco, CA

Yay - more commercials!

I'm bugging out - see ya'll - it was fun for awhile!

ArrayList
netbus developer
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Brighton, MA

no thanks

just what I need, a data hungry device drowning out my wifi network

IPPlanMan
Holy Cable Modem Batman

join:2000-09-20
Washington, DC
kudos:1

Cow and Milk...

Why let customers buy the Cow when you can keep charging them for the milk?

AT&T has never done anything to save anyone money... ever.

I'm serious about that: EVER

Selenia
I love Debian
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Fort Smith, AR
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Re: Cow and Milk...

said by IPPlanMan:

Why let customers buy the Cow when you can keep charging them for the milk?

AT&T has never done anything to save anyone money... ever.

I'm serious about that: EVER

A little off-topic. But, to be fair, their CSRs have put me on retention and new customer deals, when I looked at cutting back service in the past. It made sense to keep it and gave me better prices than I would have gotten from competitors.
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aaronwt
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Woodbridge, VA

They can do that only because

their bitrates are so low and everything is overly compressed.

mushmouth

join:2001-12-13
Earth

Re: They can do that only because

It's funny how they say it will cut down on installation time,and charge the customer more for the equipment.
The installation is a costs to att ,so this product should be at the installers discretion if it should be used where the coax is not good enough to push the signal through, or the customer wants a tv in a location where there is no coax.
This is a tool that should be used only when needed at no extra cost to the subscriber.
I can only imagine how this will work when the router is in the basement office and the stb they want is in the upstairs bedroom.

Vchat20
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Columbus, OH

Want to see how much of a clusterf*ck this becomes...

Once a whole neighborhood/MDU becomes flooded with this equipment. Wifi signals can co-exist on the same channels as long as throughput isn't being maxed aggregate across all APs. With running live TV over it, you are pretty much guaranteed a solid, near 24/7, significant throughput per each Uverse AP.

This will be a fun show. AT&T didn't really think this through. Can't tell me the existing HPNA infrastructure was any more difficult. Can be run over existing Coax or RJ11 or straight Ethernet. Got options, and none include swamping the already congested Wifi airspace..
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Mr Anon

@k12.il.us

More space needed.

No thanks, I do appreciate the effort but I will run cables myself.

However I will take external storage for the DVR, K thanks bye.

I really don't see why this is an issue, the streams are encrypted and they could evendo the same 360 type requirement where even the drive is in a unknown format if the networks were so scared.

skt

@sbcglobal.net

Seriously?!

I'm being overcharged for THIS? Although it's entertaining to think about having a couch, television, and cooler of domestic beer on the front porch, I would never actually do it.
What is the likelihood that someone will actually move this around for viewing on other TVs? I think it's more likely they would end up buy more boxes. All this talk about boxes...
I've been with U-verse since it hit Indianapolis. Back then, people answered the phone, and techs actually helped. *Sigh* I miss the old U-verse. And the old U-verse prices.