 BoricuaPremium join:2002-01-26 Sacto Sh*tty
2 recommendations | Since when... That'll be the day. They're are still using the copper lines of many homes so how the frack are they going to manage that? -- Illegal aliens have always been a problem in the United States. Ask any Indian. Robert Orben
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1 recommendation | Re: Since when... By running fiber to the home? | |
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 Frankis chillingPremium join:2000-11-03 somewhere | 1gbps is useless with a 250gb cap. The point of having such a fast connection is to be able to do stuff that requires alot of bandwidth usage. | |
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 |  brad join:2007-09-06 Etobicoke, ON | Re: 1gbps is useless with a 250gb cap. 1Gbps = the amount of bandwidth. What you really mean is having a fast connection is pointless with such a low monthly traffic allowance. But that is the case even with a relatively slow connection as well. A connection is useless if it has a low monthly traffic allowance never mind like some of the Canadian providers with 60 and 80GB caps, that is just insane. | |
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1 recommendation | Re: 1gbps is useless with a 250gb cap. said by brad:A connection is useless if it has a low monthly traffic allowance Useless? Be careful with absolute assertions. | |
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 |  |  |  brad join:2007-09-06 Etobicoke, ON | Re: 1gbps is useless with a 250gb cap. said by openbox9:said by brad:A connection is useless if it has a low monthly traffic allowance Useless? Be careful with absolute assertions. Ok.... it is useless for anything other than checking e-mail and light web surfing. | |
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 |  |  |  |  openbox9Premium join:2004-01-26 japan kudos:2 | Re: 1gbps is useless with a 250gb cap. I would take a 1 Gbps service capped at 250, 80, or even 60 GB/mth over a 3/1 Mbps, unlimited service any day of the week, all else being equal. I'd hazard a guess that a majority of other consumers would as well. | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  brad join:2007-09-06 Etobicoke, ON 2 edits | Re: 1gbps is useless with a 250gb cap. I wouldn't take either. One is too slow and I would only use to check e-mail and very light web surfing and the other is super fast but practically useless for me. It's like having a Ferrari I can just barely get out of the driveway or maybe around the block and that's it. I would rather have a 25 - 100 Mbps connection with no insane limit. IMO the majority of other consumers would rather have that. | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  openbox9Premium join:2004-01-26 japan kudos:2 | Re: 1gbps is useless with a 250gb cap. Of course, but the reality for those options is shrinking. | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  brad join:2007-09-06 Etobicoke, ON | Re: 1gbps is useless with a 250gb cap. In the US that seems to be the case. It is pretty sad. A really broken Internet. | |
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 guppy_fishPremium join:2003-12-09 Lakeland, FL kudos:1
2 recommendations | Typical CEO make the natvies happy speak Doesn't cost a penny to make future promises .. and they know it! | |
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 tshirtPremium,MVM join:2004-07-11 Snohomish, WA kudos:4 | I think they're looking towards... G.fast which could make many Uverse areas 1Gbit, then some greenfield FTTH or fttn will cover more users. they have a lot of different territories with differing problems and several different solutions | |
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Add in ATT's ancient partially untwisted scotch locked 26awg main line wire and you can subtract 100 ft or more.
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| Re: I think they're looking towards... That may be, but IF they can make 50-75% more DSL/uverse areas higher speed for little investment that frees dollars towards areas that need one of the other technologies. Sure, in a "perfect" world, with somebody else paying the bills, fiber would be everywhere. In the real world that isn't likely, so each increment is worth applause. | |
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1 recommendation | Cherry Picking ?!? What about all the AT&T DSL markets where they only offer 3 or 6Mbps down? When will AT&T address the needs of those people? Really, they've been cherry picking for years, since only some AT&T markets have U-Verse available, vs. old/slow AT&T DSL. | |
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1 recommendation | Re: Cherry Picking ?!? How about starting with the AT&T markets where they don't even have DSL available, like mine? | |
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 | | Sweating ( Google) Hopefully this will get them all sweating . But Verizon is the one I want to really sweat they have the most money to work with. Then up next the US Government for letting this happen in the first place. I/E lobbyest's. | |
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| Re: Sweating ( Google) said by bcltoys:Hopefully this will get them all sweating . But Verizon is the one I want to really sweat they have the most money to work with. Then up next the US Government for letting this happen in the first place. I/E lobbyest's.
Verizon's piggy bank was just broken for the buyout of Vodafone's share of VZW. Their pockets aren't as deep at this point. | |
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 |  |  guppy_fishPremium join:2003-12-09 Lakeland, FL kudos:1 | Re: Sweating ( Google) ^^ This ^^ right or wrong, Verizon won't comment another dime into FIOS beyond the NYC build out which is contractually committed to. After that, its goodbye wired forever as far as Verizon is concerned. | |
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1 recommendation | I'm on record as disagreeing with your belief that VZ is done with wired. I'll say it again, I believe once the LTE build is done, and now the VOD absorption is complete, VZ will reengage with upgrading it's profitable wireline service areas. | |
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| Re: Sweating ( Google) That's the issue, wired line divison is a 1000 ton boat anchor, that slipped into the abyss pulling the company with it, its a loss and adds nothing to Verizon's profit. Wireless will never be done "upgrading" after 4G, they move to 5G ect ... They have very clearly said wireless it there future | |
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1 recommendation | Re: Sweating ( Google) I guess we'll see. VZ has profitable wireline markets and those will be the ones the company keeps and pushes fiber to. The other, undesirable markets will be sold off or ignored as much as possible. Yes, wireless is the future. I've said that as well. There is a balance and VZ can (and will, IMO) do both. | |
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 etaadmin join:2002-01-17 Dallas, TX kudos:1 | Comical... but talk is cheap... do it! Just do it. | |
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If AT&T wants to deploy Internet, with the possibility of TV, then it probably could. If AT&T wants to use Telco funded POTS lines/ROW, they may have some issues unless they completely shed POTS. | |
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 BiggA join:2005-11-23 EARTH | Fiber to the press release Good one. I've given up on AT&T. They don't seem to care about slowly becoming irrelevant. | |
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 alchav join:2002-05-17 Palm Desert, CA | If you want AT&T 1Gbps U-Verse, put your Money on the Table! I think AT&T is just saying, if you are in an area serviced by them just come in with a good offer and put some Money on the Table. Everybody wants a Free Lunch, but it cost money to lay FTTH. So if a City or Community wants 1Gbps U-Verse, make it 100% participation and I'm sure AT&T will listen. | |
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 |  Bengie25 join:2010-04-22 Wisconsin Rapids, WI | Re: If you want AT&T 1Gbps U-Verse, put your Money on the Table! "but it cost money to lay FTTH"
Yeah, about the same as their new DSL services. | |
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| Do we really need 1gbps at the home? I have never understood why anyone needs that high of a connection to their home. I just upgraded to U-verse Power 45, I like the bump in speed I got from 24, but I dont' see it as a necessity. I pad $10/mth more for a luxury. I mean damn, it wasn't that long ago that we were on 56k dial up with AOL.
When OTT tv services are worth wild I may think about it.
Point is that the average user does not need 1Gbps to the home, no matter what. | |
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 cfm117 join:2004-02-13 Woodland Hills, CA | Alot of fiber already out there ATT has been putting in alot of fiber MPOE's out here. Im almost seeing a fiber MPOE in every medium to large business building now. Alot of businesses out here are doing 1G Opt-E-Man connections. I know they were not installed for Uverse products, but ATT doing FTTP using existing infastructure and rights of way would be somewhat trivial. | |
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 Sahrin join:2004-05-15 Houston, TX | Unfortunate, The effect of Google Fiber Seems to be that rich neighborhoods can now get 1 Gbps for more affordable prices than they could before.
It's always good that telecos are willing to deploy faster service, but this whole "only with reservations" nonsense... Speaks to how badly managed the telcommunications system is managed in this country (not just by the telcos though AT&T, Verizon, Comcast, and Time Warner are certainly the Four Horsemenm - also the FCC, Congress, the White House, hardware industry eg Cisco et al). | |
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 1 edit | Want real press cheap?: Offer 1Gbps to 1Million u-verse FTTH Stephenson claimed regulations prevent them from cherry-picking, requiring universal service. Someone must explain that in GREAT DETAIL before it holds water.
Only voice is or can be (on copper) universal. All xDSL variants already in heavy use give VERY wide range of data speeds by distance and line quality. ATT is already notorious for cherry-picking neighborhoods to upgrade beyond DSL to u-verse (huge speed range still).
Their dirt cheapest path, extra low hanging fruit, to getting JUSTIFIABLE PRESS for offering 1Gbps, to over ONE MILLION units (»Ask DSLReports: U-Verse in BellSouth Territory?), is to upgrade their existing u-verse FTTH coverage (ALREADY fiber laid to the premises). Why not?
Even with fiber already laid to the premises (the hard part), ATT still does not exploit it.
Why don't ATT shareholders take them to task for wasting this potential revenue stream, year after year? | |
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