 fancydancerPerception is realityPremium join:2002-08-28 Springfield, IL 1 edit | Is there a such thing as... bad publicity?
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| Re: Is there a such thing as... said by fancydancer:bad publicity? OT: 1000th post, only took 7+ years. We could ask Tiger Woods, but somehow I doubt he'd comment. -- "Don't steal. The government hates competition." Beyond AM. Beyond FM. XM | |
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 |  |  fancydancerPerception is realityPremium join:2002-08-28 Springfield, IL | Re: Is there a such thing as... I wasn't clear, my fault. Let me re-phrase that: Is there such thing as bad publicity when it comes to wireless companies? | |
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| said by BillRoland:We could ask Tiger Woods, but somehow I doubt he'd comment. Ask Kobe Bryant, Bill Clinton, Michael Vick, etc... There may be a short term hit, but in the long run, people don't remember and/or care. | |
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 |  en102Canadian, eh? join:2001-01-26 Valencia, CA | said by Karl237:It's really all been a bit silly, given the only thing really accomplished by the media blood feud was that millions more people saw AT&T and Verizon advertisements ahead of the busy Christmas shopping season. Hey, wait a minute.... It was intended to draw in people for Black Friday / Cyber Monday, and into the holiday season.... It did its damage. May not appear to be much, but then again, next quarters results will show.
If ONLY the Consumer Reports wireless report was available a couple of weeks earlier.... it would have just added more fuel for the fire. | |
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 VanPremium join:2009-07-08 New Orleans, LA | I am sure we will see this continue in the future so it isn't really THAT big a deal
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 GbcueAlmost P.E.Premium join:2001-09-30 Santa Rosa, CA kudos:8 | Waste of Money As usual for AT&T. | |
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 |  ptrowskiGot Helix?Premium join:2005-03-14 Putnam, CT kudos:4 | Re: Waste of Money said by Gbcue:As usual for AT&T. A waste of money for both companies if you ask me. | |
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 |  |  MattAll noise, no signal.Premium join:2003-07-20 Jamestown, NC kudos:12 | Re: Waste of Money said by ptrowski:said by Gbcue:As usual for AT&T. A waste of money for both companies if you ask me. I'm not so sure. I had several friends ask me about the ads and I know one decided not to get an iPhone because of it. I realize that is a minuscule sample size, but I can't be the only person who was asked.
On the flip-side, when my girlfriend saw the Apple/AT&T ad about no voice/data at the same time, she asked me if that was true. -- trafficcloak.com - pptp/sstp vpn services | |
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 |  en102Canadian, eh? join:2001-01-26 Valencia, CA | VZW allowed AT&T to give their issue free (well, cheaper) publicity, and help their sales. | |
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 |  Talis join:2001-06-21 Houston, TX | Which is worse, the waste of corporate profits on corporate stupidity, or the willful misuse of an over-taxed legal system to provide publicity fodder. Talk about frivolous lawsuits! | |
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| Re: Waste of Money said by Talis:Which is worse, the waste of corporate profits on corporate stupidity, or the willful misuse of an over-taxed legal system to provide publicity fodder. Talk about frivolous lawsuits! Who gives a shit as long as the latest celebrity drama is there to distract the public from the real problems in this country? -- Don't worry, scrote. There are plenty of 'tards out there living really kick-ass lives. | |
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 |  |  |  | | Re: Waste of Money yes, listen to IT guy. he's the secretary of edamacation. look at his avatar! -- sbcglobal.net speedtest result 11/11/09 - 5256kbps | |
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 MurdocPremium join:2009-02-08 Manitowoc, WI | those att ads are just as irritating as insurance ads So no more post card chucking for 5 minutes every commercial break? | |
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 |  | | Re: those att ads are just as irritating as insurance ads Please god I hope not. Who ever came up with those and decided to roll them out at every single commercial break should be euthanized for just the simple fact of pure annoyance despite what they were trying to convey. | |
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 |  |  | | Re: those att ads are just as irritating as insurance ads Indeed. It's one of the reasons they can't afford to upgrade their network. :| | |
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 |  |  heat84Bit Torrent Apologist join:2004-03-11 Fort Lauderdale, FL | said by papeluv:Please god I hope not. Who ever came up with those and decided to roll them out at every single commercial break should be euthanized for just the simple fact of pure annoyance despite what they were trying to convey. That's exactly what they want to happen. You'll remember the ad because you're annoyed by it. -- Bit Torrent is my DVR. | |
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 |  |  |  ThrowDemsOutIf you can't convince 'em, confuse 'emPremium join:2002-03-03 Mullica Hill, NJ kudos:4 1 edit | Re: those att ads are just as irritating as insurance ads said by heat84:said by papeluv:Please god I hope not. Who ever came up with those and decided to roll them out at every single commercial break should be euthanized for just the simple fact of pure annoyance despite what they were trying to convey. That's exactly what they want to happen. You'll remember the ad because you're annoyed by it. I'll remember the ad, but it sure won't make me want to use their network. Just the opposite.
It isn't like AT&T is a company that NEEDS name recognition. For a company needing name recognition, an irritating ad may help them. But AT&T only hurts themselves with irritating ads. -- My BLOG .. .. Internet News .. .. My Web Page
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| Re: those att ads are just as irritating as insurance ads said by ThrowDemsOut It isn't like AT&T is a company that NEEDS name recognition. [/BQUOTE :AT&T = the grandaddy of modern telecom in the US personally i wish they would go back to the old name 'American Telephone & Telegraph' sounds a bit darker -- sbcglobal.net speedtest result 11/11/09 - 5256kbps | |
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 |  RARPSL join:1999-12-08 Suffern, NY | said by Murdoc:So no more post card chucking for 5 minutes every commercial break? And you notice how they are careful to NOT say what coverage they are talking about. You are supposed to assume that they mean their EDGE and/or 3G coverage but they are (apparently) actually talking VOICE coverage. | |
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 pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium join:2002-05-02 Mount Airy, MD | Translation AT&T's lawyers probably convinced the company that they don't have a chance in hell in winning with this. -- Blagojevich / Madoff 2012! | |
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 | | blows Luke Wilson sucks. And so does AT&T. the truth really does hurt. | |
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 |  morboComplete Your Transaction join:2002-01-22 00000 | Re: blows No wonder he tried to kill himself. Wait--or was that his brother. | |
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 | | Sigh With all the Media Spin out there, it's a wonder the Earth isn't spun out of orbit into Deep Space.... | |
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| Not a popular comment here, but.... I agree with at&t that the VZ ads were misleading.
Yes, I know the ads say 3G coverage. I've seen the ads a few times each. I've paused the ads, seen screen shots of the maps. And they all clearly say 3G. But.....
I decided to look at the commercial like a normal person (not a techno geek) and at normal speed, and my thought process went like this:
Oh, another phone commercial. Verizon coverage ad. Coverage map. Now at&t's coverage map. Wait, is there really that big of a diff. Wait, I was still comparing. Verizon blah blah. end.
I looked at each map a few times and before I could finish, they, along with the legal 3G disclaimer, were gone. I did not have time to read that it was 3G only.
Then I realized I am surrounded by tech geeks (dslreports and work.) So, as a quick survey, I asked a few family and friends if they have seen the commercials, and if they knew what 3G was.
All 10 have seen at least one of the commercials, and only 2 knew that 3G was the "faster wireless data" service. Only 2 knew that they could get voice/2g service over a much larger area. The other 8 said that they thought that the map in VZ's ad was all of at&t's coverage.
Now, the part that I thought was misleading was VZ's ability to label all of their coverage as 3G. Yes, the naming org. said that it was 3G, but if you read the fine print on their website coverage map you will see that speeds up to 1.4 mpbs are only availible in EV-DO rev. a upgraded areas. All other areas will see sub 700k speeds. Hrmmm, pretty close to at&t's 2g service. Where is the map that shows VZ's upgraded area to at&t's 3G coverage?
Due to a naming anomaly, VZ can say their entire network is 3G, but lets compare apples to apples. I want to see their slower network compared to at&t's edge network and their upgraded area to at&t's 3G area. | |
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 rpeAMP join:2000-12-02 San Antonio, TX | Boo A shame...I thought it was comical and even a bit creative. | |
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 Kdee join:2005-08-26 Etobicoke, ON | well... "It's really all been a bit silly, given the only thing really accomplished by the media blood feud was that millions more people saw AT&T and Verizon advertisements ahead of the busy Christmas shopping season."
It also hi-lighted the fact that AT&T network sucks. If you're Verizon, that's a good thing. | |
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 DaveDudeNo Fear join:1999-09-01 New Jersey kudos:1 | Coverage is second to price Really Both Verizon and ATT, are just talking to each other, i would rather them have a price war. Otherwise i just dont care. | |
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 jester121Premium join:2003-08-09 Lake Zurich, IL | *sniff* Luke Wilson and his mis-shapen head will have to find something else to do.
Boy, I've taken a dislike to that guy, just from those stupid commercials. | |
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| good for them... What's sad is that I hear radio ads for AT&T where I am - and there is no 3g from them in this area! Faster, perhaps, but not here!
...Also, Verizon recently bought out lots of Alltel's turf... they've basically assimilated Alltel's 3g, which is probably why those maps look so full of red...
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 binded2 join:2009-08-11 Providence, RI | LOL does any one else think this is funny att and verizon story with a sprint ad right next to it LOL | |
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 | | They sound like little children This is too funny! They basically sounded like little children when it came to the stupid 3g ads. Honesty I don't care if AT&T doesn't have 3g coverage in the middle of nowhere mississippi. As long as I have coverage in my general area I'm pretty much set!! Verizon can try as hard as they can to get my money, but unless they come out with a REASONABLE selection of GOOD smartphones, you will never see me pulling out my wallet for their junk. | |
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 sbguymm join:2009-09-01 Camarillo, CA | Vz ads I'll bet people in the middle of Nowhere Mississippi care if they don't have service (BTW, isn't Patterson basically Nowhere, CA?). The point is that VZ got ATT off their message and put them in defense mode. Now ATT is spending tons of money telling everyone about their coverage instead of delivering a message that makes you want to go out and sign a contract. That's a Mastercard moment for VZs advertising agency. | |
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