  mmay149qPremium
join:2009-03-05
Dallas, TX
kudos:48 | I can already see this being a failure... I mean, they can't even show off price ranges for internet speeds properly......
4. Internet Access
a. Managed Internet Service
i. 2 MB Ethernet - $499.00
ii. 10 MB Ethernet - $1,093.00
iii. 100 MB Ethernet - $6,165.00
iv. 500 MB Ethernet - $19,602.00
v. 1 GB Ethernet - $32,025.00
1 GB? Or 1 Gbps? That PDF is not clear at all...... and I doubt anyone would pay $32,000 for 1 GB worth of data, if they do, they should be shot on site for stupidity...
Matt
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 | | | Re: I can already see this being a failure... At any price for 4 days, that's robbery.
No wonder our election process is so corrupt, the parties have to sell their souls just to pay the bill to AT&T. | |
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|  GbcueP.E.Premium
join:2001-09-30
Santa Rosa, CA
kudos:8 | said by mmay149q:I mean, they can't even show off price ranges for internet speeds properly......
4. Internet Access
a. Managed Internet Service
i. 2 MB Ethernet - $499.00
ii. 10 MB Ethernet - $1,093.00
iii. 100 MB Ethernet - $6,165.00
iv. 500 MB Ethernet - $19,602.00
v. 1 GB Ethernet - $32,025.00
1 GB? Or 1 Gbps? That PDF is not clear at all...... and I doubt anyone would pay $32,000 for 1 GB worth of data, if they do, they should be shot on site for stupidity...
Matt
A 1 GigabYte line for only $32k? That's 8gbps! | |
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| | mmay149qPremium
join:2009-03-05
Dallas, TX
kudos:48 | Re: I can already see this being a failure... said by Gbcue:said by mmay149q:I mean, they can't even show off price ranges for internet speeds properly......
4. Internet Access
a. Managed Internet Service
i. 2 MB Ethernet - $499.00
ii. 10 MB Ethernet - $1,093.00
iii. 100 MB Ethernet - $6,165.00
iv. 500 MB Ethernet - $19,602.00
v. 1 GB Ethernet - $32,025.00
1 GB? Or 1 Gbps? That PDF is not clear at all...... and I doubt anyone would pay $32,000 for 1 GB worth of data, if they do, they should be shot on site for stupidity...
Matt
A 1 GigabYte line for only $32k? That's 8gbps! Yeah, that's why I'm wondering what that actually means, I'd be interested to see what turns out, too bad I'm Libertarian and won't go to either convention ( :'( even get to miss the Ron Paul convention)
If these are the actual speeds they are offering then those are some pretty low prices (T1 3Mbps is like $359 a month) and from what I'm seeing an OC12 (622Mbps) is like $14,999 a month (»www.usaccess-llc.com/oc.html) and an OC48 (2.5Gbps) is anywhere from $3 - $500,000 a month (»ezinearticles.com/?Evaluating-Ba···d=100896 this is my source, may not be reliable but wasn't finding quotes anywhere else) so that price is either spot on, or pretty subsidized.
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| | | Actually, those prices don't seem too bad. It looks to be close to a single month no contract pricing for data. Granted, it should be Mbps and Gbps and not MB/GB.
Though the convention itself is only 4 days network guys will have to be there early setting things up. Or do you think everything will just work the first day of the convention by plugging things in? | |
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| | mmay149qPremium
join:2009-03-05
Dallas, TX
kudos:48 | Re: I can already see this being a failure... said by AggieDan :Actually, those prices don't seem too bad. It looks to be close to a single month no contract pricing for data. Granted, it should be Mbps and Gbps and not MB/GB.
Though the convention itself is only 4 days network guys will have to be there early setting things up. Or do you think everything will just work the first day of the convention by plugging things in?
No I don't expect everything to work perfectly with no staff there to correct issues, however for 4 days of service and marketing it at the price of a month of service, that's ridiculous...
Matt
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| | rradina
join:2000-08-08
Chesterfield, MO | Are we to believe this is the first event in the Charlotte Time Warner Arena that has needed networking? I'm sure fiber and ethernet ports with routers and switches are part of the existing infrastructure. In this day and age, is there any event that wouldn't need networking?
If most of it's already there, already working, how much beyond plug-n-play will need to be done? | |
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| | |  cdruGo ColtsPremium,MVM
join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
kudos:7 | Re: I can already see this being a failure... said by rradina:Are we to believe this is the first event in the Charlotte Time Warner Arena that has needed networking? I'm sure fiber and ethernet ports with routers and switches are part of the existing infrastructure. In this day and age, is there any event that wouldn't need networking?
If most of it's already there, already working, how much beyond plug-n-play will need to be done? You obviously have never ran an event at a convention center. You will pay an obscene amount for internet or phone service, even if reasonable logic says it shouldn't cost that much. Plus, inside a captive space such as a convention center, you are at the mercy of the convention space and whatever their pricing is. They know it. And they take advantage of it. | |
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join:2000-08-08
Chesterfield, MO | Re: I can already see this being a failure... I don't think I was doubting the price gouging. I was asserting that it should already be there and the initial installation costs should have been recouped long ago. Therefore, why does it cost so much if not for reasons that you state. | |
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join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
kudos:7 | Re: I can already see this being a failure... said by rradina: Therefore, why does it cost so much if not for reasons that you state. For something like a convention center, the center's "down time" such as between events, setup, tear down, etc have to be covered. We you pay for a day (or week or whatever) you aren't paying just for the time that it's actually being used by your event, but also times when your event isn't happening. Add to that they have to cover their costs when Convention X needs a gigabit connection, but Convention Y doesn't need anything. The convention center likely has a fixed connection that just gets divide up as needed (and as guests pay).
And all this doesn't even account for any personnel that's "required" to operate things, set things up, run wires, etc. When my company sets up a trade show, we've had times where the convention center REQUIRES that we pay for one or more union tradesmen to do variety of tasks. And we aren't just talking sophisticated, technical, or dangerous things here. We're talking plugging in a power strip or cord to light up a sign. Or to assemble a basic display. The worst I believe I heard that we had to pay an "interior designer" or "design consultant" or something like that to hang the display signs (think posters on foamboard) because we were not capable of attaching the already velcroed signs to the cloth wall. | |
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join:2000-08-08
Chesterfield, MO | Re: I can already see this being a failure... I understand the REQUIRED labor. My very first professional job was in IT at a construction company. Three months after I was there, we moved into a new building across the street. Everyone in IT was enlisted to setup terminals (this was before the desktop revolution). Being a construction company, it had close relationships with the various professional trade unions. When the IEBW heard we were doing something with electronics, a strike was averted by paying a half-dozen electricians to follow us around and plug the terminals into the outlets. We could attach the network connector but they had to plug them in. Then we would test the terminal and move to the next cube.
Unions have done good things regarding the labor market in terms of benefits and striking a work/life balance. But stunts like these make business and reasonable people disrespect them. | |
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|  tshirtPremium,MVM
join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA
kudos:3 | Do you really not understand 1GB (8Gbps) CAPACITY vs 1Gbit recieved or are you a clown? | |
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| | mmay149qPremium
join:2009-03-05
Dallas, TX
kudos:48 | Re: I can already see this being a failure... said by tshirt:Do you really not understand 1GB (8Gbps) CAPACITY vs 1Gbit recieved or are you a clown?
... Yes I understand, however my question is not about that, my question is about are they OFFERING 1GB, or 1Gbps connectivity speed? Can you read, or do you just not understand English?
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join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA
kudos:3 | Re: I can already see this being a failure... I apologize, I misread the tone of your question. | |
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| | | | mmay149qPremium
join:2009-03-05
Dallas, TX
kudos:48 | Re: I can already see this being a failure... said by tshirt:I apologize, I misread the tone of your question.
Np, I apologize for being all >:O just a bad day at work :/
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 Steve BPremium
join:2004-08-02
Seattle, WA | AT&T Better Be Smart.... They better roll out the COWs. | |
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| | It's not like there's a whole lot of options AT&T or Verizon. Both leave a bad taste. | |
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| rradina
join:2000-08-08
Chesterfield, MO | Re: It's not like there's a whole lot of options Perhaps if they move it to Kansas City and all the convention attendees pay the $10 sign up for Google's service... | |
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 MikePremium,Mod
join:2000-09-17
Pittsburgh, PA
kudos:1 | AT&T really means "We hedging that Romney is going to get stomped. Let's make out with the Democrats." | |
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| | | | Re: AT&T really means Maybe they have someone they want to buy... | |
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·Verizon Online DSL
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| Re: AT&T really means said by Metatron2008:Maybe they have someone they want to buy...
We agree on something, somewhat... this might be there way of keeping the lid on there caps, especially on wired service. Now that comcast is bumping there cap to 300GB and thats even on there lowest/slowest speed tier it leaves a bad taste that ATT DSL users are still caped @ 150GB, only half.
" I rub your back, you rub mine" | |
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| | 'Our reputation (of crappy speeds and poor customer service) is at stake, they say to a bunch of lying politicians...
I have no words for this... | |
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|  intellerSociopaths always win.
join:2003-12-08
Tulsa, OK | Re: 'Our reputation (of crappy speeds and poor customer service) i read "Our reputation" and immediately ROTFL
They haven't had a reputation to speak of for decades.
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BiggA
join:2005-11-23
EARTH Reviews:
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| HOLY CRAP That's expensive. Would be a lot cheaper to have a couple of 4G Mifis around and figure out which one works the best and roll with it. And have your own truck for video.... Heck, these days you can transmit HD video with a 4G backpack, so that's handled too. Hope AT&T has the COWS in for the load on HSPA+ and LTE... | |
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| | Remnants from 2008.. .. when AT&T was the "carrier" for the DNC in Colorado, just following Obama's sudden reversal of his Senatorial policy castigating the NSA and AT&T on the warrantless wiretap issue -- once he realized his Presidential bid was a realistic one, and these data centres would be at his disposal, he went turncoat.
Surely AT&T remembers how the Obama administration bent over backwards just like the Bush administration did for them, which is why AT&T couldn't ditch the Democrats entirely.
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| When will ppl learn? AT&T has got to be the most expensive ISP for Business out there!
I used to have AT&T for Business, I switch to Time Warner Business Class Fiber Service. I have one outage, which last a whole 30 seconds and I've had it for almost 3 years. AT&T's 10Mb circuit for $2,100 cost $1,000 @ TWCBC and it's fiber as well.
Wish all of you "IT" guys would wise up and shop around and realized AT&T is robbing you blind! | |
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| | The Color of Success If ATT is representing the "blue" party; should I take one guess who is representing the "red" party, or do you think "pink" is close enough? | |
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| | | Re: The Color of Success Does anyone ever educate themselves before posting on this forum?
The Republican National Convention has named AT&T its official wireless provider.
In this role, the telecommunications corporation will provide products and services to support and enhance carrier-provided wireless communications around key venues, a written statement said.
Financial terms of the deal were not disclosed.
AT&T (NYSE:T) will support convention planners’ mobility with voice and data communication services, as well as mobile devices to maintain integrated communications, the statement said.
The RNC also has initiated a text messaging campaign, supported by AT&T technologies, to provide breaking news about the convention scheduled the week of Aug. 27 in Tampa.
AT&T is serving both the DNC and the RNC... it was pretty big news when released, and was reported on all major news outlets... I find it hard to believe that so many of you missed this when you were looking for something to bash AT&T on... | |
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| was there really a choice, here? who else could they pick in the the state where they're having the convention? Comcast?? Verizon?
both political parties are responsible for the problems in telecom and cablecom.. going back to the clinton years.. however, the last 7-8 years can mostly be blamed by deregulation and lax enforcement of anti-competitive & anti-consumer laws and policy.
So,
»www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDGlN6mluGA | |
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| rradina
join:2000-08-08
Chesterfield, MO | Re: was there really a choice, here? Wow. Ren and Stimpy. That brings back memories. Kudos! | |
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tshirtPremium,MVM
join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA
kudos:3 | Why do they need... An OFFICIAL provider (other than the donation/FEE value) are you telling me a "Convention" center was booked that can't handle 35k conventioneer's, or is the EXCESSIVE press 'twittering' they are paying for? | |
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| | | Re: Why do they need... Some of it is backup for the sat uplinks, any radio broadcaster will use the ISDN back to their NOCs. Hell my local university provided ISDNs for ESPN Radio broadcasts on campus. | |
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| | WhatNowPremium
join:2009-05-06
Charlotte, NC | Re: Why do they need... The Convention Center is in the next block from the main CO for Charlotte. The name of the Convention Center is Time Warner Arena. | |
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| | | | | Re: Why do they need... Just because TW has their name on it doesn't mean its capable of the nationwide media blitz that will be on it.
I was simply stating why there may be a need, im not on the ground there to know their setup already, only know OSU's. | |
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| | | tshirtPremium,MVM
join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA
kudos:3 | That's the point, shouldn't a "Convention center" have ALL the connections built in no matter who your provider is? | |
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| | Can you hear me now Gonna be alot of..................are you there ??? | |
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| | tmobile merger now att can say the service sucks because the T-Mobile didn't go thru ..... | |
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 93388818It's cool, I'm takin it backPremium
join:2000-03-14
Dallas, TX | this really isnt that hard guys...
»www.corp.att.com/dnc/services/in···-access/
Managed Internet Service
Managed Internet Service (MIS) is an Internet access service that combines a high-speed, dedicated connection with consolidated application management. It allows you to reliably access information, resources and communicate with Internet users worldwide. MIS includes proactive, 24x7 network monitoring, enhanced network security features, and maintenance of the communications link between your locations and the AT&T network.
The following choices are available with Managed Internet Service:
2 MB Ethernet Access Managed Internet Service (Ethernet)
10 MB Ethernet Access Managed Internet Service (Ethernet)
100 MB Ethernet Access Managed Internet Service (Ethernet)
500 MB Ethernet Access Managed Internet Service (Ethernet)
1,000 MB (1 GB) Ethernet Access Managed Internet Service (Ethernet)
MB = Megabits, GB = Gigabits
AT&T will provide a RJ45 Interface jack for (2 MB, 10 MB, and 100 MB service) and a fiber optic SC/PC connector for each 1 GB service. AT&T does not provide any hardware or cabling beyond the jack.
AT&T will offer Ethernet Patch Cables for purchase at the AT&T Concierge Service area in the DNC Complex.
If you require a router, you will need to order from the AT&T Equipment section. Routers are not automatically provided. Customers can provide their own routers.
Special Considerations: Additional Terms and Conditions
For more information on our Internet Access Services and AT&T's Acceptable Use Policy (AUP), please see the service guide at the following links: »new.serviceguide.att.com/portals···dth_page and at »www.att.com/aup/.
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etaadmin
join:2002-01-17
Dallas, TX
kudos:1 | Is at&t going to feed all... Is at&t going to feed all the phone calls and internet traffic emanating from the Democratic convention center to the GOP's domestic spying room?
»www.nytimes.com/2006/04/17/opini···on2.html | |
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| 93388818It's cool, I'm takin it backPremium
join:2000-03-14
Dallas, TX | Re: Is at&t going to feed all... you misspelled NSA | |
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| | etaadmin
join:2002-01-17
Dallas, TX
kudos:1 | Re: Is at&t going to feed all... I thought it was NSAT&TBC after the merger with SBC and the NSA.
Domestic spying = NSA = GOP | |
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| | | 93388818It's cool, I'm takin it backPremium
join:2000-03-14
Dallas, TX | Re: Is at&t going to feed all... said by etaadmin:Domestic spying = NSA = GOP
That is laughable. NSA has been doing domestic surveillance for decades, regardless of party. | |
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| said by etaadmin:I thought it was NSAT&TBC after the merger with SBC and the NSA. Domestic spying = NSA = GOP Right, because the Democrats are trying to stop it. I mean Obama didn't re-sign the Patriot Act, he did stop the NSA from building it's huge repository in Utah and he never signed the bill that allows for the detainment of US citizens without due process like he said he would. All those things happened right? | |
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| |  Ha!
"This is about our brand -- so we want people to leave saying 'What a great experience.' I didn't have dropped calls; nothing went down on me; I was able to tweet when I needed to; my GPS worked when it needed to." A room full of politicians...something's going down on someone!
duh-duh-chhh! | |
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| 93388818It's cool, I'm takin it backPremium
join:2000-03-14
Dallas, TX | Re: ISDN ! said by pende_tim:They are even offering ISDN BRI/PRI service.
someone will want that, you watch | |
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|  BOGBSPremium
join:2004-05-11 | Many businesses still use ISDN PRI. It's a multichannel circuit that can handle 23 simultaneous calls, and you don't have to have a huge hunt group of POTS lines. | |
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| | Going to switch back to Verizon ...but only because of AT&T's crappy service. Contract is up soon. Thank God! | |
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