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join:2002-10-03
Orange, CT
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| I don't even get 3G AT&T's coverage map shows my house, and a very large area surrounding it, to have 3G coverage. I had a Samsung SYNC up until a month ago and I only got EDGE at home, never 3G (not once!). I got 3G about 2 miles away from my house. 
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JamesPC
join:2005-10-12
Orange, CA | Re: I don't even get 3G Try zooming into city view on the real ATT interactive map. | |
| | | wierdo
join:2001-02-16
Tulsa, OK
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·Teliax VOIP
| Re: I don't even get 3G said by JamesPC  :Try zooming into city view on the real ATT interactive map. You mean the one that hasn't been updated since the end of May?  | |
| SD6
join:2005-03-26
| How about finishing 3G first? The ads and press releases about coverage are misleading. AT&T describes itself as having 3G in so many cities, but the map of NY in the news item is telling. Most of Nassau County (almost 1 million); the area from South Bronx to I-287/Westchester (more than 1 million); and Staten Island (500,000), are without any 3G (although my population estimates could be wrong). There are also reports that the coverage in Brooklyn and Queens has holes (not just poor).
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Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02 | Re: How about finishing 3G first? If you note, they've designed that map so you can't zoom out to really see national HSDPA coverage, which pretty much says it all.... | |
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join:2005-03-26
| Re: How about finishing 3G first? There is a national map stitched together on another site which has the dots of blue. I understand doing the cities first, and then hesitating (I hope not stopping) before doing the less populated areas. But why have holes, and as I pointed out big (1 million+) holes? And it has been this way in NY for over a year. It seems like they do just enough to be able to advertise that they have 3G in a city and then stop. | |
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gdm
Premium,MVM
join:2001-06-15
Mchenry, IL
clubs: | Current upload 3G speeds I get around 300k upload in 3G areas now. Not sure where they are saying 100 up to 500 to 800. | |
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BrushedTooth
Remember To Shop Smart Shop S Mart
join:2001-02-12
Brecksville, OH | Re: Current upload 3G speeds That will be for devices supporting HSUPA, I don't believe any current handsets support HSUPA.
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djrobx
join:2000-05-31
Valencia, CA | quote:
I get around 300k upload in 3G areas now. Not sure where they are saying 100 up to 500 to 800.
Yeah me too. I was thinking the same thing when I read this. | |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | Re: Current upload 3G speeds I agree.. closest thing is V3xx with HSDPA 3.6Mbps down, but I don't think there's anything on the upload path.
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robbob340
K.U. Sweet 16
Premium
join:2001-02-15
Wichita, KS
| Southern California? Do they have coverage in SoCal yet? Last I heard it was no, I can understand not having 3g here in south central Kansas, but what about south central Los Angeles? 
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robbob340
K.U. Sweet 16
Premium
join:2001-02-15
Wichita, KS
| Re: Southern California? I appreciate the info, but my BB 8703 already knows.  | |
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TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
Premium
join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
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1 edit | said by robbob340 :Do they have coverage in SoCal yet? Last I heard it was no, I can understand not having 3g here in south central Kansas, but what about south central Los Angeles? Yes.
»www.wireless.att.com/coveragevie···_3g.html
California
Anaheim, Arden-Arcade, Bakersfield, Berkeley, Burbank, Chula Vista, Concord, Daly City, East Los Angeles, Escondido, Fairfield, Fremont, Fresno, Glendale, Hayward, Irvine, Long Beach, Los Angeles, Modesto, Norwalk, Oakland, Oceanside, Ontario, Oxnard, Pasadena, Pomona, Richmond, Roseville, Sacramento, San Diego, San Francisco, San Jose, Santa Ana, Santa Clara, Stockton, Sunnyvale, Vallejo
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3G areas in blue around Los Angeles.
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | Re: Southern California? Pretty much all of Los Angeles is now covered.
I went from Santa Clarita to San Deigo - covered all the way.
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djrobx
join:2000-05-31
Valencia, CA | That's quite outdated. Within the last 6 months they've turned 3G on for a good chunk of LA. | |
| xenophon
join:2007-09-17
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
4 edits | Still behind Sprint and Verizon Sprint and Verizon EVDO already has better upload/download speeds and more coverage. Sprint/Verizon cover over 210m pops (much over that for Sprint/Alltel EVDO roaming) and Sprint will have 230m pops by end of this year, excluding Alltel roaming, which is massive area in some states. At 170m pops by end of the year, ATT has a long way to go to meet Sprint/Verizon EVDO coverage.
At the snail pace rate that ATT is rolling out 3G, Sprint/Clearwire will exceed them with 4G WiMAX coverage in 2 years.
Performance still not up to par yet either.
Sprint »/archive/spcsdns.net
ATT »/archive?cid=316
BTW BBR, you need to fix the flash-based tests as AOL proxy is messing up the results.
Here is a comparison of cellphone performance..
»/mspeed?domains=1 | |
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JamesPC
join:2005-10-12
Orange, CA | Re: Still behind Sprint and Verizon Then they will start sending the actual phone calls over the WiMax Digital feed, ultimately eliminating cell towers. | |
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JamesPC
join:2005-10-12
Orange, CA
| Re: Still behind Sprint and Verizon The Difference is distance. Wimax can go much farther than the existing Cellular system. "WiMAX will blanket a radius of 30 miles (50 km) with wireless access." »computer.howstuffworks.com/wimax2.htm
So, you are half right. They will use existing towers (because they own them already) but most all towers will not be needed. They will be able to cut cost on towers, were as raise cost on network infrastructure due to the huge demand on the WiMax Towers that serve a large service area. | |
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join:2007-09-17
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
2 edits | Re: Still behind Sprint and Verizon 30 miles is only best case and if you have line-of-site. In cities, WiMAX will only get about 4-6 miles and probably less in areas with rough terrain or lots of tall buildings.
But WiMAX transmitters don't need to entirely reside on existing cellsites. There could be WiMAX repeaters that get LOS to a tower 10 miles away and provide WiMAX w/out LOS to the neighborhood or a building. Repeaters could existing on city lightpoles.
Sprint said they will put 80% of WiMAX sites on existing cellsites, so I'm guessing the rest could be repeaters, perhaps on lightpoles.
Down the road, people will be able to buy their own repeaters or femtocells. So say you live in a high rise condo building, you could add a WiMAX repeater on top of the building that gets LOS to a WiMAX site miles away and then give great signal to your building - great latency too. | |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
 ·DSL EXTREME
| Re: Still behind Sprint and Verizon Exactly. There's a capacity vs. distance issue with putting much beyond a few miles in most cases. While Clearwire/Sprint have ~100MHz of spectrum (that's a lot!) you can't cover a city like Los Angeles with one or two sites.
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| majortom1029
join:2006-10-19
Lindenhurst, NY
| Map is wrong. That map is completely wrong. IT shows half of suffolk county with 3g. The only parts of suffolk county that have 3g is 30 feet from 110/ney york avenue in either direction.
Heck even when my razr v3xxreads 3g speeds I am not getting anything faster then edge speeds. Att's 3g network needs major work. | |
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davoice
join:2000-08-12
Saxapahaw, NC
·Comporium
| That's faster than their DSL in many cases The irony that the upload on the wireless network will be faster than the upload on many wired ADSL and cable modem connections is not lost on me.
The fastest upload speed currently available to AT&T SW (Bellsouth) customers is 512K.
That's also faster than my Time Warner RR connection in Triad NC on their "Turbo" package which tops out at 512K (but of which I get ~480K most of the time.
Who'da thunk it... wireless cellular uploads being faster than those on a wired connection. Whee!
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| | kreggo
join:2003-03-10
Pearland, TX
| Re: That's faster than their DSL in many cases The cellular advertised speeds are only applicable when you are the only person accessing their network in an area. The real life speeds plummet when you are in a major metropolitan area with lots of other users accessing their network.
I'm in Houston and have cellular cards for Sprint, Verizon, and ATT. All three networks average around 200Kbps to 500Kbps down and 50Kbps to 300Kbps up throughout the day.
Get outside Houston and average speeds are more like 1Mbps to 1.5Mbps down and 300Kbps to 500Kbps up. | |
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robbob340
K.U. Sweet 16
Premium
join:2001-02-15
Wichita, KS
| Re: That's faster than their DSL in many cases Totally correct. Last weekend I had the pleasure of updating a friends computer with an Alltel EVDO card for interweb access. Up until 12:30 am or so I was getting 100-200k down, after 12:30 am or so, it was like someone flipped a switch. I was downloading at 1 meg + from Microsoft and test sites. | |
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Cjaiceman
Premium,MVM
join:2004-10-12
Parker, CO
·Comcast Workplace
·Comcast
| No 3G in Denver. There is yet to be ANY 3G from AT&T in Denver, CO. This would be nice and all, but how can we enjoy the upload upgrade if we can't even have 3G?
Come on FCC + AT&T, I know you have your differences, but can we get something together for the good of the consumer? AT&T has all the equipiment in place, but can't turn it on till the FCC says its ok, and know how fast our government works, it will be 3 more years. By they time we will be at 4G, and AT&T will have another issue with the FCC.
In all seriousness though, I heard from a little birdy they Oct 16th is the "set" date, but we will see if and when that happens. | |
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jgkolt
Premium
join:2004-02-21
Lakewood, OH
clubs: | good now lets see how tmobile competes with their new 3g setup | |
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