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| Hey ATT...... If you want to ADD DSL customers, stop petitioning states like Wisconsin to allow you to skirt the rules! Also, stop rebranding junk like WildBlue and trying to pass it off as "broadband" which further allows you to bloat your "broadband" coverage maps.
THEN....start adding DLS POPS in the rural communities that you already service with copper phone lines!!!
Sorry to rant....but AT&T needs to go down for they have done in Wisconsin.
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| Re: Hey ATT...... AT&T should also note: Speed Sells [and the cable cos know it.]
How about setting up the adsl2 over ATM [line cards] that support it- that are already installed to offer faster service instead of just 6 Meg DSL / IP-DSL and offer 15 Meg like Speakeasy offers. | |
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 |  |  cahiattPremium join:2001-03-21 Smyrna, GA | Re: Hey ATT...... said by AMDUSER:AT&T should also note: Speed Sells [and the cable cos know it.] Agreed. Why would I want to go back to DSL when my 25/3 cable service works pretty good at a competitive price. Even if they bring U-Verse why would I want to downgrade and be forced to use a set-top box again?
There is something about the simplicity of putting a coax into the back of a TV that I really enjoy. | |
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| Re: Hey ATT...... Depends on which market you're in, and with which provider. Some cablecos are just upgrading plant to 1GHz, which provides enough capacity to comfortably offer plenty of TV channels and DOCSIS 3 HSI without a problem, assuming you're cutting back on analog channels as part of the process. | |
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| No kidding. I'm typing this from a market with AT&T DSL (no U-Verse AFAIK) and Suddenlink cable. Suddenlink's standard package is 10 Mbps down and 1 Mbps up...SIGNIFICANTLY faster than AT&T's top-of-the-line DSL, especially when you factor in ATM overhead!
Oh, and SL has a package that, for $5 LESS per month including taxes and fees, jumps you from 6M DSL + local phone service to 10M cable + unlimited local and LD. | |
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| Re: Hey ATT...... Locally, AT&T does offer U-Verse; although build-out leaves something to be desired. Time Warner Cable however offers 7 Meg as the standard here vs AT&T 6 Meg DSL [and after ATM network overhead] gives about 5 Meg. It is actually cheaper to sign up for Earthlink Cable internet [$41] 7 Meg - stand alone [resold TWC] than to sign up for 6 Meg AT&T DSL ~$45... for slower internet. | |
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 |  N3OGHYo Soy Col. "Bat" GuanoPremium join:2003-11-11 Philly burbs kudos:1 | Landline voice is dead. DSL is yesterday's technology.
I remember the olden days when they were splitting area codes like crazy to make room for fax & modem lines. Talk about boom/bust!
Both AT&T and Verizon know that. Both are using their wireless divisions as cash cows.
AT&T is trying to compete with U-Verse, and Verizon with Fios. AT&T, IMHO made a mistake with FTTN. It's a half measure when full measures are in order.
If Verizon can survive the massive amount of money they poured into Fios, they will eventually do very well with it. Both companies realize they have to sell TV to compete with the likes of Comcast, and other large cable providers.
I would expect Verizon to become an even smaller company as they continue to sell of rural copper and focus on the higher population areas with their Fios offering. -- Petty people are disproportionally corrupted by petty power | |
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 |  |  Sammer join:2005-12-22 Canonsburg, PA 1 edit | Re: Hey ATT...... said by N3OGH:AT&T is trying to compete with U-Verse, and Verizon with Fios. AT&T, IMHO made a mistake with FTTN. It's a half measure when full measures are in order. If Verizon can survive the massive amount of money they poured into Fios, they will eventually do very well with it. Both companies realize they have to sell TV to compete with the likes of Comcast, and other large cable providers. I would expect Verizon to become an even smaller company as they continue to sell of rural copper and focus on the higher population areas with their Fios offering. I don't think Verizon can sell off any more rural areas without upsetting the very populous states where it remains a local (ILEC) phone company. It tried in both New York and Virginia and both states said no. Cincinnati Bell is about the only phone company of a large size whose overall territory has a higher population density than Verizon's so Verizon isn't very rural and I wouldn't worry about Verizon's survival. | |
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 |  |  hdmanFlt RiderPremium join:2003-11-25 Appleton, WI Reviews:
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| Re: Hey ATT...... said by Cole :
What exactly did AT&T do in WI? As a Wisconsin resident as well, I'd really like to know. They were the ones who petitioned the State Legislature to strip all municipalities of their ability to negotiate cable/data rates with local operators. Rural communities would sit down with the local operators and negotiate coverage rules (ie if there were x many homes in one mile, the operator would have to build out to them, etc.). AT&T made the State dopes believe that these negotiations hindered their build out which was the exact OPPOSITE. This allowed AT&T to do ONE thing and that was enter into already served markets and offer their U-Verse to compete with cable. In return, AT&T convinced the State dopes that they would focus on rural broadband as well.
So....what does AT&T do? They rebrand WildBlue and offer it as "broadband" to rural customer. This made certain that most rural dwellings unserved by cable or dsl will remain that way. Why? Take my situation: Charter would have HAD to build out to me and my neighbors under their contract with my town. AT&T has the copper lines for phone here, and nothing else. Their politicing relieved Charter of their responsibility, and AT&T was never obligated to service us with DSL because they offered us their shitty Sat based crap.
THAT is what they did in Wisconsin and it is well documented all over the web. I hope AT&T gets a blue water swirly ASAP....
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| Re: Always stuck at 1.5 mbit. said by Pashune:They wouldn't have lost me a few years ago either if they'd just upgrade my neighborhood already... ...which they finally did recently, sorta. There's still no power going to the new RT down my street. I give 'em 6 months-1 year before it's lit up. All of my ex-AT&T clients would have given their first-born for 1.5mbits ... over the past year, when they brought me in, I did my best to get their foolishly-ordered circuits repaired, but they never exceeded 140kbps.
AT&T's answer? Transfer you to sales, so they can put you on dialup service for a lower price.
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| At&t Hey we need more stories like this. Maybe it will get at&t to get up off their asses and do somthing about it.
I'm stuck here at 3mbits(if i'm lucky) while people right down the street have cable and are downloading at 10x that. My part of the street is in an area where cable companies have not bid on and probably aren't going to. | |
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 |  TimePremium join:2003-07-05 1 edit | Re: At&t Look on the bright side, you could live in a CenturyLink area and be stuck with 1.5 Mbps max. -- "If it can't be done with brains, it can't be done with hours" - Clarence "Kelly" Johnson | |
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I'm in a century link area and the max here certainly isn't 1.5, max. Just curious where you're getting your information from? | |
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| Re: At&t said by fiberguy:said by Time:Look on the bright side, you could live in a CenturyLink area and be stuck with 1.5 Mbps max. Hrmmm... I'm in a century link area and the max here certainly isn't 1.5, max. Just curious where you're getting your information from? Being a past Embarq customer and CenturyLink's availability search, which hasn't changed since Sprint serviced this area.
I'm not stating that 1.5 is the highest package they offer, I'm just making mention that is the max they serve to my zip code. -- "If it can't be done with brains, it can't be done with hours" - Clarence "Kelly" Johnson | |
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 |  |  |  |  fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium join:2005-05-20 kudos:3 | Re: At&t said by Time:said by fiberguy:said by Time:Look on the bright side, you could live in a CenturyLink area and be stuck with 1.5 Mbps max. Hrmmm... I'm in a century link area and the max here certainly isn't 1.5, max. Just curious where you're getting your information from? Being a past Embarq customer and CenturyLink's availability search, which hasn't changed since Sprint serviced this area. I'm not stating that 1.5 is the highest package they offer, I'm just making mention that is the max they serve to my zip code. You actually DID imply that it "was the max" offered... you didn't say "in your area".. but your reply does. 
(I would have said "you could be stuck in an area OF century like where the max available is 1.5 - you said "a century link area AND BE STUCK with.. which reads that century link areas are 1.5.. but anyway) | |
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 |  |  Gflo join:2009-06-25 Oxford, GA 3 edits | Re: At&t Well technically they don't offer broadband where I'm at anymore, but my point is at&t needs to stop all this "Rethink Possible" crap and get to work. | |
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 Zulu join:2008-03-17 Port Saint Lucie, FL | AT&T Got To Want To Help Their Selves First. The FCC also released today defining "Broadband" speed as 4MB download services. As I've called at least once a week trying to buy improved services and always told they are not available. AT&T reps know nothing about "Pair Bonding" or VDSL, at least they are sharing with customers. So, the 3meg service, which I test at 2.5, is really not high speed by the FCC's standards. | |
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quote: and their new data pricing only really just kicked in.
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 bdon78I didn't do it join:2009-05-18 Decatur, GA | I have AT&T And I don't hate them (which makes me a minority on this website).
I am one of the fortunate few that is within 1000ft of a VRAD, so I get the 24 tier. I also have wireless, but I'm in Atlanta, which has pretty solid coverage and speed.
Despite all the criticism on this forum, they must being doing something right.. why do I say this? Well, one.. I am happy, and I can't be alone. Two, look at their numbers... Q4 last year was the first time they beat out Verizon in most wireless categories (ARPU, Net Adds, etc..).
I can only assume they have the iPhone to thank for that, but that was a good strategic move on their part (VZW could've had it first and said "no".. wtf?). They also entered into connected devices such as eReaders (that really only need the EDGE network) long before Verizon.
Guess my point is, AT&T despite their network woes, seems to have made some pretty good strategic decisions that Verizon missed out on. Now Verizon is playing catch up.
I think it will all be interesting to watch once both have their LTE networks up... let the network battles begin! | |
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I also live within Atlanta city limits, so access to broadband is easy for me. (though I will never use a comcast service again...) | |
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 |  |  iansltx join:2007-02-19 Golden, CO kudos:2 | Re: I have AT&T Wait, have you used AT&T? Because you're typing this on a Comcast connection. | |
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 |  etaadmin join:2002-01-17 Dallas, TX kudos:1 | As you said 'I am one of the fortunate few that is within 1000ft of a VRAD' how many of you are out there? 30%, 40%? the rest are just 25 and 19 Mbps gateway profiles and the immense majority just get ADSL.
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 RickPremium,MVM join:2001-02-06 Waterbury, CT | If I had 5 minutes with AT&T's CEO...here's what I'd say Your landline business..is getting destroyed. Your DSL business..is getting destroyed. Your Uverse adoption rate..weak at best.
Your wireless results. Outstanding. Well..except for the fact that now you'll probably be losing the Iphone exclusive deal...Antennagate on top of that..and your "unlimited" plan going the way of the dinosaurs..driving some of those customers elsewhere.
Can I ask you a question? Could anyone SCREW UP MORE THAN YOU HAVE THE LAST FEW YEARS? Could anyone be doing a worse job for their customers AND shareholders alike?
And I say shareholders because you ARE doing them a disservice as well. You are NOT servicing them. You are leading them over a cliff. A real leader..LEADS...and doesn't let the pressure to make every last dime rule their every decision. Warren Buffet stands up yearly at his shareholder meeting and tells it like it is. And his shareholders...RESPECT HIM FOR IT. And what you need to do..as the leader of AT&T this formerly outstanding and great American company..is to do the same with yours.
Your customers do not want dsl speeds anymore. And they don't want their old landlines anymore either. And they certainly don't want Uverse...your pieced together..save every last dime you can to get something out there...kind of network. Mr CEO..you were told that here many times by many people including myself over the last couple of years. And you still aren't listening.
As a company..you have the financial resources to wire your entire service area with FTTH. You can make that decision. You can finally bring your network up to something that is a worthy competitor. Something that will serve your customers into the next generation. And something that will serve your shareholders as well..into their retirements.
Mr CEO..don't be afraid of your shareholders and Wall Street.
Show them what a real leader is instead.
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1 edit | Re: If I had 5 minutes with AT&T's CEO...here's what I'd say Randall Stephenson, AT&T CEO rs2982@att.com (direct) randall.stephenson@att.com phone: 210-351-5401 (direct to his secretary) fax 210-351-3553 alternate phone: 210-821-4105 (headquarters, press 3, ask for Mr. Stephenson's office) 175 E. Houston San Antonio, TX 78205
Fax, call and email him at all the same time | |
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 |  bdon78I didn't do it join:2009-05-18 Decatur, GA | said by Rick:Could anyone SCREW UP MORE THAN YOU HAVE THE LAST FEW YEARS? I can answer your question and yes someone can. Verizon's CEO.. he said no to the iPhone and connected devices (eReaders, prescription bottles with connected tops, electric meters).
In a strategic blunder that could only be outdone by Blockbuster Videos board, Verizon's leaders put them behind AT&T.
And don't give me idealistic talk about vzw..... FOLLOW THE MONEY. Look at AT&T's financials versus Verizons since the iPhone... They are getting crushed!!! (also, the huge capital investment and low adoption rate of FIOS is coming back to bite them)
Your post was one of the least thought thru post's I've encountered here. Call it constructive criticism | |
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| Re: If I had 5 minutes with AT&T's CEO...here's what I'd say said by bdon78:said by Rick:Could anyone SCREW UP MORE THAN YOU HAVE THE LAST FEW YEARS? I can answer your question and yes someone can. Verizon's CEO.. he said no to the iPhone and connected devices (eReaders, prescription bottles with connected tops, electric meters). In a strategic blunder that could only be outdone by Blockbuster Videos board, Verizon's leaders put them behind AT&T. And don't give me idealistic talk about vzw..... FOLLOW THE MONEY. Look at AT&T's financials versus Verizons since the iPhone... They are getting crushed!!! (also, the huge capital investment and low adoption rate of FIOS is coming back to bite them) Your post was one of the least thought thru post's I've encountered here. Call it constructive criticism said by bdon78:said by Rick:Could anyone SCREW UP MORE THAN YOU HAVE THE LAST FEW YEARS? I can answer your question and yes someone can. Verizon's CEO.. he said no to the iPhone and connected devices (eReaders, prescription bottles with connected tops, electric meters). In a strategic blunder that could only be outdone by Blockbuster Videos board, Verizon's leaders put them behind AT&T. And don't give me idealistic talk about vzw..... FOLLOW THE MONEY. Look at AT&T's financials versus Verizons since the iPhone... They are getting crushed!!! (also, the huge capital investment and low adoption rate of FIOS is coming back to bite them) Your post was one of the least thought thru post's I've encountered here. Call it constructive criticism Thats good and all but Verizon is working for the customer, not the money. While I agree that they could have done better with the iPhone and the connected devices. Verizon isn't trying to spoon money out of their customers, yet. It all depends on how their wireless data caps turn out. | |
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 |  Sammer join:2005-12-22 Canonsburg, PA | Re: Rethink Possible said by CopperFiber:AT&T needs to revamp their DSL customers cause the cable companies are way ahead of them. That's exactly why they are not gaining traditional broadband customers. They either can't or won't compete with cable. | |
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Why spend all the money on an ad campaign when you can spend it to reach a captive audience. | |
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 |  decifal join:2007-03-10 Bon Aqua, TN kudos:1 | Re: Money poorly spent Need more dsl customers? Build out more dsl! Duh!
Sign me up!
Wireless with spotty coverage and rediculas fees? No thanks! I'll keep my bird and stone tablets! | |
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 VanPremium join:2009-07-08 New Orleans, LA | Awesome....so they are upgrading their systems ridiculously slowly....all the while implementing a laughable cap across the board?
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 Romney2012Defeat Obama 2012-Chg we can believe inPremium join:2002-03-03 USA kudos:4 | $30.8 B revenue & $4 B profit still better than last year
The top line results got lost in all the stats about lost DSL customers and land lines, but AT&T still turned in better results than last year. They had $30.8 billion in qtrly revenues and $4 billion in profit. The stock holders are happy. Everybody else doesn't count. The stock finished up 2.37% at closing. -- Are you happy with your rep in Washington, DC? | |
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 ackman join:2000-10-04 Acworth, GA | They need to compete Hard to get new customers when your 6MB service only gives 400k upload speed. Most any cable company beats that by far, on even a bad day. If AT&T wasn't such a huge oversized behemoth beast of a "too big to fail" corporation, they could compete more quickly and effectively in the free market with efficient free market solutions. | |
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 underlord2Lolcat is LolPremium join:2005-01-06 Belleville, MI 1 edit | Maybe if... posted to wrong newspiece, mods please delete. | |
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