  RockCake
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2007-Aug-21 1:26 pm
Factsaw, why let a little thing like facts get in the way of a good advertising campaign?  | |
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2007-Aug-21 1:32 pm
Re: FactsLeast amount of dropped calls because of the least amount of completed connections to START the calls. thats what i experienced. I have verizon and it does good except for my new apt. I cant seem to get coverage there, but niether can cingular or others. Voicestream T-mobile used to be known as the sh1tiest carrier around. Looks like they ramped it up a little once they went up north. aren't they losing tons of money? | |
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TMO ROCKS
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2007-Aug-21 3:15 pm
Re: Facts  If you have coverage issues just get hotspot@home then you will run off your router's wifi and the calls are FREE in your home. Beat that!!! | |
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2007-Aug-21 3:35 pm
Re: FactsI would but i have verizon. i am out of contract though. but myu family is all on verizon. Anyone have any suggestions for what i can do to get verizon coverage here? | |
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2007-Aug-22 1:26 pm
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To fix the all family on verizon or another network, use Tmobile Myfaves Rate plan. The plan gives you the option to choose any five numbers in the U.S. to talk to unlimited. | |
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2007-Aug-22 1:28 pm
Re: Factshow often can you change your my faves?
With the hotspot at home can you use any wifi or only tmobile hotspots and tmobile routers | |
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2007-Aug-29 4:30 am
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If you are looking for help, go to a VZW store or call their customer service and tell them you would like a trouble ticket opened for the area you are having problems. Usually they will have a real life "testman" or cell technician drive test your area and see if something can be done. They can adjust the antenna's or slightly increase the power (or other trouble shooting methods) and then retest some calls in your area. Most of the time you will get a call back to see if you have noticed a change. There are some areas that they will be unable to do anything (for example, there is a large hill between you and the tower). Hope this helps =^) | |
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For an Extra $20 a month + special phones. Oh and don't forget the internet requirement. My house in the boonies T-Mobile works 0 and wont even roam off AT&T and I don't have High speed so there goes that. Here is something that would beat that, more cell phone towers  Nextel and AT&T are the only people that work in my area. | |
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2007-Aug-21 3:57 pm
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Dont forget. Not only are calls unlimited from your @Home HotSpot, There are also unlimited from any T-Mobile HotSpot in the country. Worldwide coverage now available via Wi-Fi. Good News for the Troops overseas who wanna call home!! | |
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Re: Factssaid by THAT GUY :
Dont forget. Not only are calls unlimited from your @Home HotSpot, There are also unlimited from any T-Mobile HotSpot in the country world. Worldwide coverage now available via Wi-Fi. Good News for the Troops overseas who wanna call home!!
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Looks like we have a fanboy in the house... | |
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I noticed exactly the same thing. I have more problems placing calls than having them drop once I'm on them.
I've been eagerly anticipating the 3G upgrade for a long time, but things have been a real mess leading up to and following the enabling of 3G sevice. Sometimes have to manually disable 3G on my phone to place a call.
Here, T-Mobile has a decent network but their coverage isn't too great. In Los Angeles, AT&T customers can get onto T-mobile's network (since they used to share with Pac Bell), but not the other way around. | |
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Re: FactsThat's my ONLY complaint with T-mobile. In north Idaho, there are several areas that are served by AT&T and not T-mobile, and since I can't roam on AT&T...
Oh well, if it's extremely important, I just find me an unsecured wi-fi signal and...
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Are you having issues with 3G bouncing like a Windows 98 PC ? When I do have a call on 3G... its great. Typically, it will handoff to GSM before connecting  unless I force my phone to 3G only, and then I have to hope that the call will go through. If it doesn't, my phone will end up showing 'No Service' until I 'reboot' my phone, Windows style... and even then its iffy. I have had 2 hour calls on it without issue, on both GSM and 3G, with 3G sounding cleaner (no garble). | |
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2007-Aug-22 1:09 pm
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No the company is not losing money! | |
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These reports don't always represent reality buy the majority choses to believe these "lies". I have trouble receiving and placing calls with my Verizon work phone and have had multiple calls dropped while using the phone. However I have not dopped or have problems making or receiving a call with my AT & T phone. Aside from this, someone had to foot the bill for these reports and most likely received a bit in return. | |
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|  dvd536as Mr. Pink as they come
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Fewest dropped calls my a$$
Cingular ATT or whatever you call yourself SUCKS. | |
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aw, why let a little thing like facts get in the way of a good advertising campaign? OMG, hehe good one Since my sister canceled Verizon & got Ciguler/AT&T she has had many dropped calls. | |
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2007-Aug-21 1:31 pm
3 T-MobileATT may talk the talk, but T-Mobile walks the walk. | |
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Re: 3 T-MobileYeah, but where are they walking? And why won't they tell us where they're going? | |
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2007-Aug-21 2:04 pm
Re: 3 T-Mobileviva Deutschland! | |
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|  sporkmedrop the crantini and move it, sister
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I guess I lucked out. I always grumble about T-Mobile coverage when I (oh so rarely) leave this area, but aside from that I've got no complaints. Never had any billing issues, the price is right and the few times I've called I got very pleasant people who had answers to my questions. If only VZW was GSM and a roaming partner with T... | |
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W7PSK
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2007-Aug-21 3:51 pm
Re: 3 T-MobileBeen on Tmobile 3 years not a single complaint. Just upped for 2 more. | |
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en102
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2007-Aug-21 4:59 pm
Re: 3 T-MobileI've been on AT&T Wireless since GSM rolled out in Los Angeles with mMode (2003/2002?), and their network was pathetic when launched. Cingular moved their customers to AT&T Wireless network in CA/NV, which didn't help, and pushed excessive use of a bad implementation of the AMR-half rate codec.
Coverage in So-Cal: AT&T beats T-Mobile
Quality in So-Cal: T-Mobile beats AT&T (except 3G)
AT&T quality is good if you have a Motorola and disable the AMR-half rate codec.
Also, 3G quality is good, however, the network bounces like Windows 98 PC.
General complaints on AT&T:
1. 3G bouncing
2. Audio garbles on GSM
T-Mobile
T-Mobile - coverage is too weak to be used inside my house. | |
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said by sporkme:If only VZW was GSM and a roaming partner with T... Yeah GSM is the major thing that keeps me with T-Mobile (and why I keep an eye on ATT). Being able to buy unlocked phones online and stay up to date with the newest euro phones is a great benefit of sticking with GSM. I've had ATT, Sprint, and T-Mobile and i've never been happier than I am with T-mobile. | |
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Not true in Parker, CO. T-Mobile is the sux0rz in CO. I have 2 friends that have t-mobile, and they regret it. They drop calls all the time, can't get incoming calls, and sometimes texts take upto 9 hours to get from t-mobile to at&t. I can send them one and it takes almost no time. I can send one to sprint and verizon and there is no issue, and receive just fine. Out at my parents house VZ and AT&T are the only ones, T-Mobile doesn't work at all, same w/ sprint. t-mobile might work elsewhere, but in CO, AT&T is the best. VZ has deadspots in DOWNTOWN DENVER!! I have yet to hit a dead spot on at&t inside a major area. Even in some areas that should not have coverage AT&T works. My work phone is a sprint, and I wish it worked half as reliable as my AT&T phone. VZ is just a joke in some areas out here.... | |
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2007-Aug-21 6:11 pm
Re: 3 T-MobileAgreed, T-Mobile sucks in CO. But ATT sucks in CO also (I should say in the mountains). In CO I look more at if it is GSM or CDMA and GSM sucks in the mountains (at least out of the I-70 corridor but every network works good there). | |
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said by Cjaiceman:Not true in Parker, CO. T-Mobile is the sux0rz in CO. I have 2 friends that have t-mobile, and they regret it. They drop calls all the time, can't get incoming calls, and sometimes texts take upto 9 hours to get from t-mobile to at&t. I can send them one and it takes almost no time. I can send one to sprint and verizon and there is no issue, and receive just fine. Out at my parents house VZ and AT&T are the only ones, T-Mobile doesn't work at all, same w/ sprint. t-mobile might work elsewhere, but in CO, AT&T is the best. VZ has deadspots in DOWNTOWN DENVER!! I have yet to hit a dead spot on at&t inside a major area. Even in some areas that should not have coverage AT&T works. My work phone is a sprint, and I wish it worked half as reliable as my AT&T phone. VZ is just a joke in some areas out here.... Everyone sucks in Colorado - Ive had AT&T, T-Mobile, Qwest and Sprint and they all have the same problems. AT&T is only good in Denver area. As for the text problems, I'd bet that's AT&T's issue... I have no problem getting T-Mobile texts fairly "instantly". | |
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Re: 3 T-MobileWhy do you think all companies give you a trial usage period. If you don't like the service then cancel and get somebody else. It all boils down to what the network is like in the area nad also the investment you are willing to make on a good mobile phone. If you get a cheap phone guess what your service will be crappy. I have at&t now since it was Bellsouth Mobility and never had any issues. I have the Blackjack and had it since December. I always change phone at least once a month and this one seems to be the one to stay. | |
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2007-Aug-21 1:31 pm
Timely.....I have been with Cingular for years, and a few months ago we started having an abnormally high number of dropped calls. Everytime I see the billboard with this advertisement on it I chuckle.  | |
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2007-Aug-21 1:34 pm
Fewest Completed (started) calls.Fewest Dropped calls....because you can't place a call to begin with.
Hard to drop the call if you are not able to start the call. | |
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2007-Aug-21 7:15 pm
Re: Fewest Completed (started) calls.I agree... | |
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Marketing LiesFewest Dropped call by far in comparison to T-mobile and Nextel in this area.
But with that said you can't drop the call if you can't originate the call.. ( which happens more often than any other carrier i have been with, in this area). | |
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DadCooks
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2007-Aug-21 1:44 pm
AT&T - The Truth HurtsI switched from AT&T/Cingular (longtime abused customer) to T-Mobile a little more than a year ago. We have a family plan with 4 people. With AT&T we got used to uncompleted calls, dropped calls, and reception holes every day!
With T-Mobile we have not had one case of a dropped call, uncompleted call, or no reception. Sure hope T-Mobile can keep up with this level of service. | |
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Add New Orleansto the list of cities with the MOST dropped calls on AT&T's network. Cingular just plain sucks down here. | |
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Re: Add New Orleanssaid by exocet_cm:to the list of cities with the MOST dropped calls on AT&T's network. Cingular just plain sucks down here. Ditto... I find myself calling people, getting dropped, calling them back and telling them to hold on while I call them back from the Sprint phone provided by my employer. Constant problems with Cingular... The only time I have problems with Sprint is in steel and concrete high rise buildings. | |
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2007-Aug-21 2:03 pm
Virgin MobileVirgin Mobile often ranks highest for most reliable service. Oddly, they are on the Sprint network.
I have Sprint personal and ATT work phone. I know of a couple dense spots in the city where ATT consistently drops - can predict call to drop. Haven't dropped much with Sprint in last couple years, especially since they've added CDMA to thousands of Nextel sites.
Verizon is running into capacity issues as they are growing customers w/out growing network capacity. A friend of mine on VZW doesn't get dropped calls, but rather a 'network busy' when trying to place a call.
I honestly think Sprint has the best network now, especially when it comes to data. It's Sprint's support that sucks so bad that they don't have the growth rate. Sprint is a better tech company than a consumer company. They should split off the voice service as an MVNO and focus on the network. | |
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2007-Aug-21 4:18 pm
Re: Virgin Mobilesaid by sprintattusrr :
I honestly think Sprint has the best network now, especially when it comes to data. I guess that depends heavily on where you are. Overland Park is Sprint's operations headquarters, yet Sprint employees within their OWN campus often can't get coverage. Their hometown is spotted with coverage, and most people I talk to here are highly frustrated with Sprint. | |
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2007-Aug-21 6:48 pm
Re: Virgin Mobilesaid by tiger72: Overland Park is Sprint's operations headquarters, yet Sprint employees within their OWN campus often can't get coverage. Well if there are 10K+ users trying to connect to a few towers in one location, that's probably difficult to manage. I travel the US many times over and find Sprint's coverage to be way better than in the past. To the point that coverage/reliability isn't an issue, especially with good roaming agreements too. Customer support however still sucks. | |
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I am Very Happy With TMobileI have been very happy with TMobile. My wife had a 200 minute plan and I had 1000 minutes.
Recently my situation changed and I did not need the 1000 minutes that I contracted for on a 2 year contract. The customer service rep explained my options and set up me and my wife on one account with 600 minutes with a 1 year contract that saved me $20 a month.
Many companies would have said screw you and pay us $60 a month for the remaining 18 months that you signed for. | |
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Subaru
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2007-Aug-21 2:23 pm
it's a shameit's never been true.. every person i've talked to with Cingular said it was never true.. lucky for me my phone (T-mobile) does not need to roam on AT&T's towers much. | |
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2007-Aug-21 2:51 pm
FCC to the rescue?Since the FCC ordered at the beginning of August that cell phone carriers allow roaming on each others networks "on a just, reasonable, and nondiscriminatory basis" that might solve some of their problems. In my case, AT&T's coverage is actually better than the coverage T-Mobile provides me due to their support of 850MHz. 850MHz covers many places in my commute where T-Mobile's 1900MHz does not. OTOH, there are many places where T-Mobile has superior service to AT&T. | |
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AT&T plan........I'm happy...........Family plan/ KRZR K1 phones/ I travel from N Illinois to S Arkansas...........no problems as yet..?? (One of my phones came with a bad battery/ they replaced it pronto) Of course, I don't stay on it like some folks seem to. Just thought I'd earn my commission......eh?  Naw.....I don't work for them..... Like I said......so far, I'm very happy.......Ol'Ben BTW... ...The Motorola KRZR phones are excellent also.....batteries suck.....but.....hey????? | |
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2007-Aug-21 3:26 pm
Can the State AG Hear Me Now?Sounds like a good ole case of false advertising that should be handled by the state AG's office in your local domain. | |
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pokesph
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2007-Aug-21 4:09 pm
RE: Sexiestsaid by Karl :
As an aside, Telephia studies have also suggested that this website has the sexiest editors.
Of course! BBR/DSLR is A#1 tech forum so it's to be assumed that those working on it are top quality and quite sexy people. | |
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I have bothI've had T-mobile since 2000. My whole family has TMO, about 10 lines. For work phones my company recently switched from Nextel to AT&T. Having used both I can say T-Mobile is better hands down. With AT&T half the time I have full signal but can't make a call.
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AT&T was always the worst carrierI still can not imagen why they would want to go back to that AT&T name and it's horrable reputation.  | |
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raye
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2007-Aug-21 4:28 pm
Sprint's dropped call rate (somewhat) worse than VerizonsREsults from » www.consumerreports.org/ ··· tr_1.htm show Sprint on the low end in most cities, most probably due to the poor customer service and Nextel merger (IMHO a hugh mistake). I would have thought that besides customer service, the quality of Sprints network was at least as good as Verizon's. Having had Sprint for 4+ years I have had a good experience call-wise, both local and around the US when I travel. | |
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2007-Aug-21 6:17 pm
Re: Sprint's dropped call rate (somewhat) worse than VerizonsThis one says Sprint had the fewest dropped calls. I guess it just depends on the methodology. And with Sprint, the Nextel side has poorer service, not the CDMA side. » www.tmcnet.com/news/2007 ··· 2708.htm | |
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2007-Aug-21 7:44 pm
Re: Sprint's dropped call rate (somewhat) worse than VerizonsHere in RI and Eastern CT T-Mobile sucks. I have both a T-Mobile phone and Cingular phone (work and personal). It's no contest. The T-Mobile phone becuase it hardly ever has full bars and drops calls all the time. Most people hate T-Mobile around here and are happy with Verizon or Cingular. | |
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unless I force my phone to 3G only, and then I have to hope that the call will go through. If it doesn't, my phone will end up showing 'No Service' until I 'reboot' my phone, Windows style... and even then its iffy.
