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AT&T: iPhone 5 Fastest Selling Phone Ever

As Samsung Insists Apple's Still Playing Catch Up

by Karl Bode Monday 17-Sep-2012 tags: business · wireless · wireless

Despite some yawns from analysts over the iPhone 5's not-particularly-revolutionary upgrades, AT&T says the device has broken all of their previous sales records. In a press statement, AT&T says customers ordered more iPhones from AT&T than any previous model -- both on its first day of preorders and over the weekend. According to Apple, pre-orders for the device topped two-million within the first two hours of availability. As Apple fans begin lining up outside of stores and the very first orders begin to ship from China, Samsung has launched this ad insisting the iPhone 5 is still playing catch up to their Samsung Galaxy S3, a proclamation that has poured gasoline on the phone fanboy wars Internet wide.

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aaronwt Premium join:2004-11-07 Woodbridge, VA Reviews: ·Verizon FiOS	Lining Up?? Really?? People are lining up to buy a phone with such a tiny screen(not even an HD resolution) and not as good as many of the android phones? It's one thing to get the iPhone but to actually stand in line to get it? No cellphone is worth standing in line to get it.
	permalink · 2012-09-17 08:37:38 · ·

AnonFTW @rr.com	Re: Lining Up?? How is it "not as good" as many of the Android phones? That is very subjective. I think it's better than any of the Android phones out there (now that it has LTE and a 4" screen) so I'm buying one. My last 4 phones have been Android based.
	permalink · 2012-09-17 08:49:49 · ·

inteller Sociopaths always win. join:2003-12-08 Tulsa, OK	Re: Lining Up?? now that it has LTE that can't do voice and data simultaneously on Verizon and Sprint? yes that is soooo desireable. -- "WHEN THE LAUGH TRACK STARTS THEN THE FUN STARTS!"
	permalink · 2012-09-17 08:52:53 · ·

AnonFTW @rr.com	Re: Lining Up?? said by inteller: now that it has LTE that can't do voice and data simultaneously on Verizon and Sprint? yes that is soooo desireable. But it can on AT&T, so blame Verizon and Sprint, not Apple.
	permalink · 2012-09-17 08:58:50 · ·

inteller Sociopaths always win. join:2003-12-08 Tulsa, OK	Re: Lining Up?? uh no, blame apple, because Android LTE devices handle it just fine on Verizon. -- "WHEN THE LAUGH TRACK STARTS THEN THE FUN STARTS!"
	permalink · 2012-09-17 09:05:51 · ·

aaronwt Premium join:2004-11-07 Woodbridge, VA Reviews: ·Verizon FiOS	Re: Lining Up?? said by inteller: uh no, blame apple, because Android LTE devices handle it just fine on Verizon. I read that about the iPhone5 and I was was surprised. Since my LTE phone on Verizon has no issue with simultaneous voice and data.
	permalink · 2012-09-17 09:10:13 · ·

AnonFTW

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Using two discrete chips or an extra antenna. My Bionic has no problems doing it, but battery life is horrid. The issue will be moot when VoLTE is deployed however.

And FYI, the AT&T iPhone drops back to 3G, so it can't do simultaneous voice and LTE either.

Regardless, the iPhone 4 and the iPhone 4S didn't have this ability and frankly, no one really cares. If this is the only nit there is to pick, the horse is dead.

From Anandtech (definitely worth a quick read):

"The reasons, as always, are somewhat technical but at a high level pretty simple. Suffice it to say that at a high level this is a design decision which makes the phone as small and light as it is (it really is light, almost alarmingly so) and enables it to support a wide number of LTE bands, rather than some major oversight like I've seen it portrayed."

»goo.gl/z1Udo

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inteller Sociopaths always win. join:2003-12-08 Tulsa, OK	Re: Lining Up?? it drops back to HSDPA+ which is not shabby and probably transparent to the user vs LTE that it won't matter. At least it drops back to SOMETHING. -- "WHEN THE LAUGH TRACK STARTS THEN THE FUN STARTS!"
	permalink · 2012-09-17 13:13:22 · ·

LightS Premium join:2005-12-17 Greenville, TX	No. Blame Apple. It was their decision, not the carriers.
	permalink · 2012-09-17 09:08:27 · ·

joel84 @comcast.net	Re: Lining Up?? wrong its the carriers, learn about tech....
	permalink · 2012-09-26 07:43:11 · ·

Thaler Premium join:2004-02-02 Los Angeles, CA kudos:3	Re: Lining Up?? said by joel84 : wrong its the carriers, learn about tech.... So...when Verizon offers simultaneous-use LTE with their Android phones, but doesn't offer it on their iPhone 5...how exactly is the carrier's LTE at fault again?
	permalink · 2012-09-26 14:07:53 · ·

rradina join:2000-08-08 Chesterfield, MO	The networks supports it. I read Apple made a decision not to support it due to space/power constraints. I don't know if that's really true, that's just their excuse. Regardless, this was Apple's intent so we shouldn't crab at the carriers.
	permalink · 2012-09-17 09:19:58 · ·

WhyMe420 Premium join:2009-04-06 kudos:1	Hell my iPhone 4S can do both at the same time on T-Mobile (not LTE, but T-Mobile's HSPA+ is faster than Verizon's LTE anyway.)
	permalink · 2012-09-17 14:26:24 · ·

jmn1207 Premium join:2000-07-19 Ashburn, VA kudos:1	Re: Lining Up?? said by WhyMe420: Hell my iPhone 4S can do both at the same time on T-Mobile (not LTE, but T-Mobile's HSPA+ is faster than Verizon's LTE anyway.) Verizon LTE offers better performance for most people. »RootMetrics: Verizon Fastest, Most Consistent Wireless Data
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WhyMe420
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Re: Lining Up??

That's fine and all but T-Mobile as it is almost maxes out my 4S's 14.4Mbps chip daily

(tethered speed)

(phone speed)

Plenty for me! Plus with unlimited data, no restrictions on tethering, a MUCH lower bill than when I was on AT&T, it's a no-brainer for me! I'll take my personal experience (both in data speed and wallet drain) over a chart someone else produced any day. My bud has Verizon and I still beat him more consistently even though he's on LTE.

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Well it's like that for almost all of the CDMA phones and has been forever. No news here. Right now voice on those carriers runs on CDMA. The only phone that was simult. was the Thunderbolt which I had. You could watch the battery drain....Now Samsung, etc have it, but they need to create vendor specific phones...

Most people don't know that all voice runs on 2G/3G networks, until VoLTE works. In the meantime we will need to run with phones that have lots of equipment on them to run all of this stuff. Apple said screw you, I'm not adding another radio, you can surf on wifi or wait for VoLTE. Smart move, because the phone's battery will last longer, and that is why it is extremely thin and extremely profitable...

However this makes GSM versions juicy, and in the US though it means signing w/ the devil--AT&T. Some regional guys, but in the end, ouch.

And now you can see why Verizon doesn't charge for tether anymore

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dudeman456 join:2005-04-29 New York, NY	Re: Lining Up?? A lot of phone on Verizon, and Sprint have been able to do both for like the past 2 years, without LTE.
	permalink · 2012-09-17 09:52:04 · ·

inteller Sociopaths always win. join:2003-12-08 Tulsa, OK Reviews: ·Cingular Wireless	said by elefante72: Apple said screw you, That's largely my problem with Apple....they say screw you a little too often for my liking. I'm the customer with money to give you, don't put me off with crap like this or "you're holding it wrong" excuses. -- "WHEN THE LAUGH TRACK STARTS THEN THE FUN STARTS!"
	permalink · 2012-09-17 10:13:12 · ·

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Re: Lining Up??

said by inteller:

said by elefante72:

Apple said screw you,

That's largely my problem with Apple....they say screw you a little too often for my liking. I'm the customer with money to give you, don't put me off with crap like this or "you're holding it wrong" excuses.

Apple has said "screw you" to chipsets that eat too much battery life since the first iPhone. The battery consumption issue was the reason the original iPhone was EDGE despite other phones having 3G at the time.

It's nothing new, nor is the lack of simultaneous voice/data to CDMA users in general. VoLTE will fix it eventually.
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AtariBaby join:2006-03-05 San Francisco, CA Reviews: ·Comcast ·Speakeasy	said by inteller: now that it has LTE that can't do voice and data simultaneously on Verizon and Sprint? yes that is soooo desireable. I'm pretty sure that was 3G and LTE eliminates that issue for all carriers.
	permalink · 2012-09-18 19:54:43 · ·

Thaler Premium join:2004-02-02 Los Angeles, CA kudos:3	Re: Lining Up?? said by AtariBaby: said by inteller: now that it has LTE that can't do voice and data simultaneously on Verizon and Sprint? yes that is soooo desireable. I'm pretty sure that was 3G and LTE eliminates that issue for all carriers. Nope. »www.engadget.com/2012/09/13/appl···on-cdma/
	permalink · 2012-09-18 21:23:19 · Print · ·

aaronwt
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said by AnonFTW :

How is it "not as good" as many of the Android phones? That is very subjective. I think it's better than any of the Android phones out there (now that it has LTE and a 4" screen) so I'm buying one. My last 4 phones have been Android based.

Of course it's subjective. I've used the iPhone a few times from my friends. I do not like it compared to the Android phones I've used. The Android phones were much better in most areas.

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AnonFTW

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Re: Lining Up??

said by aaronwt:

The Android phones were much better in most areas.

My experience is the exact opposite of yours. I find Android a broken mess of inconsistency coupled with phones that generally lack manufacturer support beyond the first year. I'm tired of waiting for Android to get it together. Google promised ICS would unify Android, now they are saying Jelly Bean will. Well, which is it? From what I've seen of Jelly Bean, Android still needs work on it's fit and finish. Even "Project Butter" hasn't ironed out all the flaws.

Perhaps I'll come back when they get their act together a little more, but I just want a phone that works reliably, in a consistent manner, and will be supported by the manufacturer for more than a single year. I like the concept of the Google Nexus series, but I'm not dropping $200 for a 2 year old phone that doesn't support LTE.

My Android phones have always been the odd man out in my home, as they never integrated with any of my Windows or Apple technology well at all. Now that almost all my personal storage has moved to the cloud, I want a more consistent experience between devices.

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inteller Sociopaths always win. join:2003-12-08 Tulsa, OK	Re: Lining Up?? so get a Lumia 920...WP8 is unified.
	permalink · 2012-09-17 09:07:25 · ·

AnonFTW

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Re: Lining Up??

said by inteller:

so get a Lumia 920...WP8 is unified.

I've run Windows 8 on my PC and I think I'll be skipping it. I do like the concept of the Surface Pro tablet though.

The 920 looks like a great phone, but I'm going to hold off until the Win8/WP8 platform and ecosystem mature. I jumped in without regard when Android was released and paid the price. I'm sure that's part of the reason I'm done with them for now.

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inteller Sociopaths always win. join:2003-12-08 Tulsa, OK Reviews: ·Cingular Wireless	Re: Lining Up?? its fucking Windows. That's like saying you'll wait for flying cars because they aren't mature. The new UI has nothing to do with the fact that Windows 8 is windows. And Windows Phone has over 100k apps, or in other words more apps than you will ever use. -- "WHEN THE LAUGH TRACK STARTS THEN THE FUN STARTS!"
	permalink · 2012-09-17 13:15:06 · ·

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Re: Lining Up??

I'm typing this on a Titan II running Windows Phone. The app selection is severely lacking. Not only are many missing, but the ones that exist usually just don't work as well as their iOS equivalents.

For example, I use Navigon for driving directions. As far as I can tell, there's no way to set it to avoid highways on Windows Phone. Also there's not maps for as many countries. I couldn't get Navigon maps of Singapore on Windows Phone, but could on iOS

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netwire Premium join:2001-04-27 Shelby, NC kudos:1	Re: Lining Up?? I'll get a Windows phone when I can run desktop applications on it... World of Warcraft.. while on break at work? Yes please.
	permalink · 2012-09-18 04:46:05 · ·

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said by Bootes:

Nokia Drive is a superior app to Navigon, that's why you should get the 920.

You could also try HTC Locations, it may have the maps you need and the ability to avoid highways....but if you are in Singapore you are doomed no matter what nav software you have.
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Bootes Premium join:2005-01-28 Palo Alto, CA	Re: Lining Up?? Actually I was able to put Nokia Drive on it and it isn't superior. It's nice that it's free, but it's pretty basic. For example, It doesn't say street names and has very little options. HTC Locations is ok. I like how it tells you which lane you should be in. However, it also Just doesn't work as well as Navigon on my iPhone.
	permalink · 2012-09-18 10:52:01 · ·

LightS Premium join:2005-12-17 Greenville, TX	What Google Nexus phone are you talking about? I got a Galaxy Nexus last year and it fully supports LTE.
	permalink · 2012-09-17 09:09:46 · ·

AnonFTW @rr.com	Re: Lining Up?? said by LightS: What Google Nexus phone are you talking about? I got a Galaxy Nexus last year and it fully supports LTE. The Verizon version does, but not the GSM version.
	permalink · 2012-09-17 09:18:47 · ·

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Obviously you haven't used a Nexus 7. Perfect exchange integration, and I use Sugarsync for cloud storage locally, the cloud, and for streaming. That same sugarsync works on my ipad and iphone.

I agree Android sucks for support and stability, like Windows 98-ish. Until it gets a proper HAL and SDK, its the 90's... Nexus 7 is what open software can be, but the warts of open kernels and the lame Google framework leads to hacked phones. Most of that is caused by the carriers though. Do you think Samsung or Apple wants to make 4 different versions of the same phone? At least Apple took the power and told the carriers to f-off, I own the software and the experience. Every single Android phone is a bastard representation of the carriers idea of "value add", er I mean lockin and upsell.

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AnonFTW @rr.com	Re: Lining Up?? said by elefante72: Obviously you haven't used a Nexus 7. Now why would you assume that? As I said, I've given Android the benefit of the doubt many, many times. I'm done with them for now.
	permalink · 2012-09-17 10:22:35 · ·

elefante72

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Re: Lining Up??

"My Android phones have always been the odd man out in my home, as they never integrated with any of my Windows or Apple technology well at all. Now that almost all my personal storage has moved to the cloud, I want a more consistent experience between devices."

I have a Windows/Apple/Android mash in my house. Sugarsync handles all files and integration for streaming, 100%. I use Mediamonkey to handle android/windows/iphone music library. As for video, well that is more difficult because of DRM, so there is vendor lockin there. I don't buy video, so it's no problem. However you could use netflix/amazon if you wish and they are a little better. No easy answer there.

I feel you. I'm turning in my wifes motorola triumph--the pinnacle of a frankenstein phone and VM/Sprints sucky network for a soon to be donned used iphone 4 on prepaid AT&T MVNO. She's a doctor, and all of her doctor-ish apps are on Ios, so I'm at fault for having her carry that boat anchor around. In the end I got tired of playing w/ the phone just to get it to begin to work like it should have. My iphone 4s I have spent a total of 30 minutes since I got it 8 months ago maintaining it. It just works. Yes it FC's at least once a day, but just tap the icon and it's back.

Even if Motorola gives me $100 for this POS, it wouldn't be enough. Even rooted it's a bolted together piece of Huawei crap. Even Motorola didn't have the decency to make their own phone. On that note, I think Google is going to right that ship...

My Nexus 7 tablet though, that is better than my ipad and I love the form factor and Jelly Bean--on the phone side it's carrier hell. Yes ipad mini will be nice, but at 7inch I need widgets to get me the relevant information. Even the 4" iphone is close to usable screen real estate, so dumb-drone icon folders ain't gonna cut it anymore.

I hear great things about W8 (I think metro is some garish cartoon), but if I had a dollar for everytime MSFT dropped a mobile product, I could have bought AAPL and be retired. Sorry MSFT, not getting a $ from me.

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Simba7 I Void Warranties join:2003-03-24 Billings, MT	Um.. Running CM9 here and have had no issues with it. So, you want an LTE phone that will eat through your data cap even faster?
	permalink · 2012-09-17 16:45:39 · ·

Swordfish II Watching A Dream Premium join:2002-05-12 Cloud 9	Less RAM, not dual core, on the OS side apple is most definately playing catchup. Keep drinking that koolaid though. -- I'm not going there to die. I'm going there to see if i really am alive.
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cdru Go Colts Premium,MVM join:2003-05-14 Fort Wayne, IN kudos:7	Two people standing there is technically a line.
	permalink · 2012-09-17 08:58:54 · ·

aaronwt Premium join:2004-11-07 Woodbridge, VA Reviews: ·Verizon FiOS	Re: Lining Up?? said by cdru: Two people standing there is technically a line. The last few cell phones I purchased were shipped to me from verizon. I don't think any cell phone is worth standing in line for. At least a line with two people would be fairly quick. But to stand in line with dozens if not hundreds of people?? I think that is kind of crazy.
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it has begun already......

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MyDogHsFleas Premium join:2007-08-15 Austin, TX kudos:5	It's not about the Specs, it's about the ecosystem and the "it just works" integrated design where Apple owns the entire experience. Within epsilon, nobody cares about specs as long as its not blindingly deficient.
	permalink · 2012-09-17 14:34:16 · ·

Simba7 I Void Warranties join:2003-03-24 Billings, MT	Re: Lining Up?? Ya. It's not really "my phone" that I paid for. It'll still be "Apple's phone" no matter what and they'll tell me how to use it. One reason I like specific Android phones. I can customize it to what I want.. and I love the Cyanogenmod ROMs.
	permalink · 2012-09-17 16:50:40 · ·

AtariBaby join:2006-03-05 San Francisco, CA Reviews: ·Comcast ·Speakeasy	The reviews I've been reading on the iPhone 5 coming in are all high with praise. However, this doesn't matter much, because most people already know they want the phone, or else are fervently anti-iPhone and instantly discount any positive review as unfairly biased.
	permalink · 2012-09-19 14:48:54 · ·

Thaler Premium join:2004-02-02 Los Angeles, CA kudos:3	Re: Lining Up?? Are you really "fervently anti-iPhone" if you just want top-dollar hardware for a top-dollar cost? For a $200 (or $600 unsubsidized) phone, I'd just personally want the latest bells & whistles and not yesteryear's hardware set.
	permalink · 2012-09-19 14:55:20 · ·

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I think both iPhone and the many iterations of Android are great, yet flawed in their own ways. Apple offers an elegant, premium computing experience. Android offers more of a customizable hot rod experience, and part of that means a lower price point.

Not necessarily fervently anti-Apple if you like the Android experience better, but if you think all the glowing reviews and consumer satisfaction is some sort of delusion, or perhaps if you label it "yesteryear's technology", you might be a little on the fervent side.

I am an IT consultant who thinks Windows 7 is pretty awesome, who has been a Mac user personally for years now, who runs his home projects on Ubuntu, and I am always thinking about jumping ship back Windows/Android. The Galaxy S3 almost got me. Thinking about an iPhone 5. But will probably sit out for the next round. Seems like an unnecessary expense since my jailbroken iPhone 4 still works great and keeps me pretty happy. I am thinking that thinner, lighter iPhone 5 would be nice, though, especially with longer battery life. We'll see.

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Thaler
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Re: Lining Up??

said by AtariBaby:

Android offers more of a customizable hot rod experience, and part of that means a lower price point.

Pretty sure a Galaxy Nexus costs the same as an iPhone 5, actually. You are correct though in that Android does have a variety of flavors - many of them at different price points.

said by AtariBaby:

Not necessarily fervently anti-Apple if you like the Android experience better, but if you think all the glowing reviews and consumer satisfaction is some sort of delusion, or perhaps if you label it "yesteryear's technology", you might be a little on the fervent side.

Lacking NFC, half the RAM, non-simultaneous LTE, and a smaller screen, the iPhone 5's hardware profile only matches top-end Android phones released about a year ago.

Now, fervent might be bringing up the whole no expandable memory or removable battery - simply as iPhone users have already taken this as a given. This is just the first iPhone model I've seen where the hardware specs have been lacking by comparison upon release.

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Re: Lining Up??

said by Thaler:

Now, fervent might be bringing up the whole no expandable memory or removable battery - simply as iPhone users have already taken this as a given. This is just the first iPhone model I've seen where the hardware specs have been lacking by comparison upon release.

For some reason I've always seen those points as a plus. I'd rather have the form factor and not deal with removable parts. Could computing can take care of the need for expandable memory and is easier than swapping chips around.

However, it's also easy to get tools and inexpensive iPhone parts for DIY fixes and upgrades. The parts and instructions are so easy to get it's like working on a PC.

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Re: Lining Up??

said by Michail:

Could computing can take care of the need for expandable memory and is easier than swapping chips around.

I think you mean "Cloud Computing".. and hell no.. Unless you have absolutely unlimited data or you really like to ridiculously pay for data access.

..and don't even go "Oh, well there's WiFi". Um.. Then what's the point of LTE if most of your time is on WiFi? Plus, WiFi isn't everywhere. If that was the case, I'd be using a Samsung Galaxy Player, which costs $200 and has some decent specs.
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Re: Lining Up??

said by Simba7:

said by Michail:

Could computing can take care of the need for expandable memory and is easier than swapping chips around.

Yes, my typo.

For some reason I seem to do the bulk of my usage on wifi. While on vacation my girlfriend didn't have coverage on AT&T. I have Verizon so she tethered off of my phone. In two days she used 1 gig of data, yikes! But I wonder how accurate the Verizon meter is?

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AtariBaby join:2006-03-05 San Francisco, CA	I'm kind of glad I've kept my powder dry for the moment. I'd be miserable without a good mapping app. »Apple's Really Awful iOS 6 Maps Ruins iPhone 5 Party
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As I expected, I see nothing in the iPhone 5 to convince me to give up my 4S. Most important is the fact that I am on Sprint and there is no real LTE service with them yet to justify getting it. Plus the lack of a VoLTE standard (and iPhone support) will have me waiting on the sidelines until that happens. It took a while for 3G to support voice and I suspect it will be the same with LTE. Perhaps the 5S or 6 will support voice on LTE.

Finally, the new Lightning connector is a show stopper for me. I have too many dongles and other attachments right now using the 30-pin connector. Within a year or so, there should be much cheaper third-party devices and adapters available. I cannot stomach paying Apple $29 for a $3 adapter.
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AtariBaby join:2006-03-05 San Francisco, CA	Re: Not Upgrading I have an iPhone 4 with no S, but I'm considering waiting to see what the next gen Android and/or the "5S" equivalent is like before I get a new phone.
	permalink · 2012-09-18 20:00:46 · ·

Allhaterz @sbcglobal.net	Haterz Y'all haterZ ... Because the iPhone is popular worldwide .. Y'all hating that it broke sales records .. The minority here can complain but is the majority tha rules ..
	permalink · 2012-09-17 09:41:20 · ·

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It actually isn't. Its only popular in the Western part of the world(US, and Europe). Its barely getting tracking in Japan, and they have a ton of flip phones, amazing flip phones but flip phones none the less. China where Windows phone is number one seller. Most of the world that have a limited amount of income have to think a lot about getting a phone that someone with an assault riffle might want take off their hands.

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delusion ftl @comcast.net	Apples marketshare varies by country and region but in general android is more popular than the iPhone about 2 to 1 in north America and 3 to 1 globally. also keep in mind that Apple sold approx 2 million per day, and while impressive is not substantially more than the 1.3 million per day android does every day, of every week, of every month, not just on the once a year launch day.
	permalink · 2012-09-17 10:57:50 · ·

tcope Premium join:2003-05-07 Sandy, UT kudos:2	It only broke it's own record. That is not saying much when it's a fact that iPhone sales are still lower then Android phone sales. Now if you want to say more people are pre-ordering the 5 than the 4 then you'd be correct. It's pointless... but you'd be correct.
	permalink · 2012-09-17 16:21:36 · ·

Simba7
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said by Allhaterz :

Y'all haterZ ... Because the iPhone is popular worldwide .. Y'all hating that it broke sales records .. The minority here can complain but is the majority tha rules ..

Go do that "Gangsta sh*t" elsewhere.

"It broke sales records" due to all the iSheep not knowing the difference between the 4, the 4S, and the 5 besides it being an iPhone.
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No surprise here

I don't see why this would be a surprise to anyone. If I liked iPhone and am totally unaware that other comparable smartphones even exist I'd be counting down the days until I could get my hands on the 5.

You have to keep in mind what iPhone buyers look for and if you've been on a 3.5 inch screen for the past 5 years, even though they're like 2-3 years late a 4 inch screen would be awesome. It looks nicer, runs better and is new. That is all that matters. Its not the best phone out now, but its the best iPhone and to all those millions of iPhone lovers out there, its the only phone.

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Haters

Any story about the iPhone instantly attracts the haters.

If these phones were as terrible as some say they are, NOBODY WOULD BUY THEM. The fact is, Apple makes good stuff. Deny it all you want, but they seriously do make great products.

I plan on getting an iPhone 5, and I really don't care what anyone thinks. You like your Samsung Galaxy SIII? Great. I don't doubt that it is a great device. I personally think it is too big for a phone, but I am not going to go on Internet forums and trash everyone who wants one the way so many do on here when it comes to Apple.
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IowaCowboy
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I am getting it on Verizon

I am getting my iPhone on Verizon when I become eligible for an upgrade on November 30th. Verizon has a lot more LTE coverage than AT&T.

Verizon seems to be more aggressive with LTE deployment and network upgrades that AT&T.

I'll probably pick it up at Best Buy so I can pad my RewardZone point balance. I'll probably get the screen protector as well and a Morphie JuicePack (as LTE will drain batteries quickly).
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GLIMMER join:2004-01-17 Fisher, IL	Re: I am getting it on Verizon now it would be interesting if HTC got a itc ban on the iphone 5 and they could not release it on friday... Apple using htc's lte patents not a good thing...
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Simba7 I Void Warranties join:2003-03-24 Billings, MT	Re: I am getting it on Verizon Them and Samsung.
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CCCCCCw @verizon.net	Re: I am getting it on Verizon And Google.
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IowaCowboy
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Most of these frivolous patent lawsuits get settled with a licensing agreement. Apple probably has the necessarry licenses to use LTE radios as they did not develop LTE. A company known as Qualcomm owns the rights to CDMA/EVDO radios and you always see a sticker on a CDMA device saying "Digital by Qualcomm".

As for Apple, I think Android infringes on their patents as iOS was released first and Android is very similar to look and feel of iOS. But I will agree that the judicial system is out of control. Here is a website on the matter »www.facesoflawsuitabuse.org
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LightS Premium join:2005-12-17 Greenville, TX	Won't every iphone be a "best seller" for one simple reason... they make more every time?
	permalink · 2012-09-17 10:25:09 · ·

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I just can't see waiting in line for a week for a phone... I have the Iphone4.. Its been alright, but in low signal areas it won't even let me type very fast.. Not sure if its the power upping to keep a connection or if every keystroke is being recorded by apple.. But over the year i've been unhappy with apples methods to eliminate competition or to hamper it.. And being they are swapping connector pens anyways, I'm gonna get the android a chance to see how it pans out...

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Simba7 I Void Warranties join:2003-03-24 Billings, MT	Re: .. said by decifal: I have the Iphone4.. Its been alright, but in low signal areas it won't even let me type very fast.. You're holding it wrong. You have to hold it a very specific way or it will not work properly.
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said by decifal:

Why would you wait for a week for a phone when you can just have it at a later date without waiting? if you are trying to be the first one to have one, remember someone in the world has already beat you to that.
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permalink · 2012-09-21 10:40:47 · Print ·

cool_coda

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apple vs android

Apple makes a beautiful product, nobody can deny that. The OS I think is smooth and responsive, but I can't say the same always about Android, because of the bloatware that at&t and others pile on. I have found that if you use a custom ROM (warranty voider) it is simply amazing.

Functionality they do about the same things. Just in different manners.

Now I have to say one place that iPhone gets beat to hell is iTunes... dear lord that program sucks. It is the reason I left iPhone and went for the galaxy s3... kies air and having the ability to see file structure upon plugging into a PC sold that to me.

Outside of that I honestly can't say either is better or worse.

What I can say is that Apple isn't leading the pack anymore when it comes to technological advances...

It isn't a good sign when your presentation contains 4 or 5 slides of the new "plug" called Lightning... seriously.. you named it?

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N3OGH
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Re: apple vs android

It seems like whenever it's time to upgrade, whatever is out there at the given time is light years ahead of what I'm replacing.

My first "smart" phone was a BB Storm. After 2 years of that thing I can see why RIM is circling, well, the rim.

My second was a HTC Droid Incredible. It was a serious leap ahead from my BB. It was a good phone, I liked the removable battery & SD card slot to side load media onto. The ringer broke, and by then the iPhone 4s was available on Verizon so I got that.

I'm happy with it. I can remember a handful of times my Incredible crashed while I was talking on the phone, and even thought it was an infrequent occurrence, it usually happened at the worst time. I've never had an OS crash on my iPhone.

There are things I would like to see Apple do with the iPhone. SD card slot, user removable battery. I'm all ready seeing a reduction in my battery life, like I did with the HTC phone after about a year. I have the tech chops to crack it open & replace the battery on my own when the warranty is up so I'll probably do it.

I'm not lining up for anything. I'm the most impatient person in the world, and unless they were giving away gold bars I'm just not into wasting my time like this. Last phone I had shipped to work to dodge the sales tax (hey, why give PA the $12??), and I'll do the same next time.

But, I think I'll be keeping the 4s for a while. I'm still grandfathered in on the unlimited data plan, and I'm hatching that pretty until Verizon puts a red boot up my ass and makes me move, or the device itself is a brick....
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MyDogHsFleas Premium join:2007-08-15 Austin, TX kudos:5	Thunderbolt and Lightning, very very frightening...
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JamesPC join:2005-10-12 Orange, CA	Great marketing not devices. Apple could sale ice to an Eskimo.
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michieru Premium join:2009-07-25 Miami, FL	! "What good fortune for those in power that people do not think." -Adolf Hitler.
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Backwards Thinking by people

I compare Iphone in North America to Soccer.

Soccer is the most widely played and most popular sport in the world, yet people in NA hate on it cause in their limited thinking "Footbal-NFL" is better and more exiting. Same with Iphone ( any iphone ). The Iphone is the most popular and most profitable and most sold phone in the world, yet here people are hating on and have their Android/W8 phone(because its all about specs to them) SPECS: Even with half the specs in the iphone - only a handfull of android/W8 phones are according to users and experts " same or slightly better ", so who is playing the catchup game here. Way better specs on other phone yet they are only slightly better, if that. Get you shiet together haterz.

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brianiscool join:2000-08-16 Tampa, FL kudos:1	Junk I wouldn't line up to purchase Apple Junk. The One X with quad core can smoke that phone any day. Apple will not hold their title for long. With HTC and Samsung gobbling up most of the Android market I see Apple falling behind quickly. They are trying to hold competitors off with lawsuits, but it will not last for long.
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