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kudos:2 | I keep saying it.. AT&T is milking the iPhone money train for every penny they can. Why invest in a network today when tomorrow they lose the iPhone contract and everyone flocks to another carrier who also carries the iPhone?
AT&T's position is they would rather have money in their pocket than in their network.
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Which one is badder, AT&T or Apple? I say both...but in their each, special way...
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join:2002-03-05 | Verizon: "Bad AT&T coverage? There's a map for that."
AT&T: "Bad AT&T coverage? There's an app for that."
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| | Don't forget the surplus They have a planned surplus of several hundred field techs in the former BellSouth states the first quarter of next year.
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Charlotte, NC | Re: Don't forget the surplus The layoff total is 1060 for the BellSouth States of which 754 are the techs that maintain the outside plant and 685 are the ones that knock on your door when your phone or dsl is out.
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| | Attention Class, Capitalism 101 is now in session I am so sick and tired of these relentless whine fests against AT&T. If you are experiencing dropped calls, slow data, whatever, and you have given the company (AT&T) reasonable time and feedback to resolve the issue, and if they haven't, then do what consumers do in capitalist markets, and vote with your wallet and go somewhere else. "But the others don't have the iPhone, its not fair!" is not a valid argument, its just an excuse to whine and moan. The only kind of message a company is going to be very sensitive to is when its customers start taking walks over to their competitors.
The real bottom line is that nobody at AT&T or Apple cares what DSLR thinks they should or shouldn't do, and they certainly don't read these boards to figure out business strategy.
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Saint Louis, MO | Re: Attention Class, Capitalism 101 is now in session While I do not care for the Iphone, many do. Many signed long term contracts to get those phones. So just switching(and paying the ETF) is really not an option for most of us.
Large corporations hate sites like DSLR. It gives consumers a place for their voices to reach a critical mass, which in turn can bring about changes in the way companies do business. If it were not for sites like DSLR we would all have 5GB/month caps(lined service), so yes big companies do care what sites like DSLR thinks they should do. They think even harder on how to prevent that critical mass from forming. | |
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Oh yes you can: »www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29779285
»www.wireless.att.com/learn/basic···.jsp#106
The only reason you have an ETF is because the provider reduced the price of the handset in exchange for a minimum service commitment. They sell the phone without a contract for a higher price.
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00000 | Re: Attention Class, Capitalism 101 is now in session lame excuse? no one would be up in arms if AT&T provided a halfway decent network experience. they need to do their job of providing a robust network. period. be the dumb pipe provider and stop doing it so half assed. | |
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| | | | | | Re: Attention Class, Capitalism 101 is now in session said by morbo:lame excuse? no one would be up in arms if AT&T provided a halfway decent network experience. they need to do their job of providing a robust network. period. be the dumb pipe provider and stop doing it so half assed. you have choices. No one is holding a gun to your head and saying that you must get a phone and service from AT&T. There is Verizon, Sprint, T-Mobile, MetroPCS and others. Nobody says you need to go with AT&T. Nobody also says you have to have an iPhone. | |
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| | | | | | | Re: Attention Class, Capitalism 101 is now in session said by fifty nine:you have choices. No one is holding a gun to your head and saying that you must get a phone and service from AT&T. There is Verizon, Sprint, T-Mobile, MetroPCS and others. Nobody says you need to go with AT&T. Nobody also says you have to have an iPhone. Contractual obligations to keep the service or pay $175... | |
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New Orleans, LA | Re: Attention Class, Capitalism 101 is now in session said by sporkme:said by fifty nine:you have choices. No one is holding a gun to your head and saying that you must get a phone and service from AT&T. There is Verizon, Sprint, T-Mobile, MetroPCS and others. Nobody says you need to go with AT&T. Nobody also says you have to have an iPhone. This is beyond "the market". No matter who the carrier is, if you buy a phone, it should work reliably in the areas where the carrier offers service. Anything less than that is fraud. +1 | |
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join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | I suspect that AT&T wouldn't have half of the issues if they didn't have the iPhone. I also suspect that they wouldn't have as many customers either.
- I phone makes it _very_ easy to consume data
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| | | | | said by fifty nine:Can't you buy a phone for full price without a contract and ETF? While this may not be true for other phones, there is pretty much no point in paying full price for iPhone. Although you pay full price for it, the phone is still officially locked to AT&T. Surely, you can jailbreak and unlock it, but here in the US your only other option would be T-Mobile. But since iPhone does not support 1700 frequency that T-Mobile uses for 3G, you will be stuck with EDGE speeds. Not to mention that if it breaks, Apple may refuse to service if they see that it was jailbroken.
Now assuming that you do use the iPhone for which you paid full price with AT&T, there is no way to get away from their $30 data plan. If you had a "dumb phone" before and plug its SIM into iPhone (or any other smartphone), they will detect it as a smartphone and will automatically add the data plan to your account. The only way to get them to drop that data plan will be to go back to using the "dumb phone". So the only "advantage" you get for buying an iPhone at full price is the fact that you can jump ship any time without paying ETF.
Given the above, the only person who would buy iPhone at full price would be someone who wants one extremely badly, has too much money on their hands and cannot get it at subsidized price (probably due to bad credit).
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Newtown, PA | Well said!
I am tired of this board becoming a bash xxxxxx (insert AT&T or Apple here) forum every other day or so.
I am sure there is a lot more out there that is of interest to DSLR readers...... maybe Karl is having a hard time finding something else so he keeps raking this up. | |
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join:2002-03-05 | Re: Attention Class, Capitalism 101 is now in session Neither AT&T nor Apple are undeserving of much of the negative attention they attract through their actions and decisions. | |
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Valencia, CA | Re: Attention Class, Capitalism 101 is now in session I agree... vote with your wallet. | |
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kudos:4 | said by sam64:Well said! I am tired of this board becoming a bash xxxxxx (insert AT&T or Apple here) forum every other day or so. I am sure there is a lot more out there that is of interest to DSLR readers...... maybe Karl is having a hard time finding something else so he keeps raking this up. It is part of his crusade aginst the corporatocracy. »Re: Sigh
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Torrance, CA | I find myself almost gagging saying this , but if you are locked into a contract, and not given enough time to tryout, it isn't that easy to switch, and I must say that none of the wireless co's are that impressive. Peace
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| | | | Re: Attention Class, Capitalism 101 is now in session said by woody7:I find myself almost gagging saying this , but if you are locked into a contract, and not given enough time to tryout, it isn't that easy to switch, and I must say that none of the wireless co's are that impressive. Peace No one held a gun to your head and said sign a contract.
You can buy a phone without a contract and sign up for service without a contract.
I think even with a contract they give you a trial period... if you want a longer one, there's no contract pricing: »www.wireless.att.com/learn/basic···.jsp#106
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kudos:5 | said by BillRoland:I am so sick and tired of these relentless whine fests against AT&T. Good, because today is "Make BillRoland sick and tired" day.
said by BillRoland: If you are experiencing dropped calls, slow data, whatever, and you have given the company (AT&T) reasonable time and feedback to resolve the issue, and if they haven't, then do what consumers do in capitalist markets, and vote with your wallet and go somewhere else. ...provided you're at the end of your 24-month commitment, which few people with an iPhone actually are.
said by BillRoland:"But the others don't have the iPhone, its not fair!" is not a valid argument, its just an excuse to whine and moan. Sounds like a valid argument to me. Why can't they connect this device to any compatible network? Why the exclusivity?
said by BillRoland:The real bottom line is that nobody at AT&T or Apple cares what DSLR thinks they should or shouldn't do, and they certainly don't read these boards to figure out business strategy. You know who else should care? The U.S. public. You see, those are our limited airwaves and right-of-ways being mismanaged. Perhaps we should hand them over to someone competent -- or at least someone who gives a crap.
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Charlotte, NC | Re: Attention Class, Capitalism 101 is now in session nobody seems to complain they got their iPhone at a big discount because they signed that long term contract. Maybe at&t should have sold it at full or almost full price then the network they have would not be over taxed by to many users.
I have found when you blow you reputation it costs even more to get it back then it would have to keep it. | |
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way way out | Re: Attention Class, Capitalism 101 is now in session said by WhatNow:nobody seems to complain they got their iPhone at a big discount because they signed that long term contract. Maybe at&t should have sold it at full or almost full price then the network they have would not be over taxed by to many users. I have found when you blow you reputation it costs even more to get it back then it would have to keep it. big discount from what?
the phone cost 100 bucks to make
apple then slaps a 599 price on it...
then att drops it to 200 bucks and says "hey look we are giving you a huge discount" but just ignore the fact that ATT prob only paid 150 bucks for it anyway
price manipulation at its finest to make you think you got a deal because you signed a long term contract. | |
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New Orleans, LA | Is that what we have gotten to these days?
Any negative complaints should just be kept quiet unless you decide to leave all together? | |
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New Orleans, LA | Re: So, are you saying people can't complain? You know, I understand what they are saying.....and there are times I agree
But I love the iPhone dearly and I find that the combination of the iPhone + AT&T is enough to keep me.
But should I really be told to not say anything negative unless I am 100% leaving? | |
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So yes, until Apple releases a non-AT&T locked iPhone, I am kind of stuck with them. | |
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| | | | Re: Attention Class, Capitalism 101 is now in session said by goodcow:All other phones suck ass compared to the iPhone. So yes, until Apple releases a non-AT&T locked iPhone, I am kind of stuck with them. Well it's your priorities. I like a reliable network which is why I'm with Verizon. | |
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| I couldn't have said it nearly as good. Where I live, Verizon and Sprint both have 3g here, AT&T does not, yet people still go out and buy iPhones and then bitch. The device holds no appeal whatsover to me. I don't get the hype.
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| | | Maybe you should read the article and the links a little bit closer.
You call it a whine fest, I call it an act of transparency being done by the DSLR site which I greatly enjoy.
My big issue with AT&T is simply that they have the money to invest, they should be investing, and yet they are not doing it at nearly the scale they should be. Instead they are doing the same thing all the other major players are doing and that is throwing BS against a wall to see what sticks so they are able to protect their noncompetitive status.
Net neutrality reducing investment is complete BS. What incentive do they have to invest if they can milk the current under performing products by selectively restricting access to content and applications? They have on incentive, they will only truly invest when a competitor makes them. | |
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Villanova, PA | Karl uses an iPhone. As such he likes to use DSLR as a springboard for his self-serving commentary, not unlike many other forums on the internet. The iPhone is only exclusive to AT&T from a 3G frequency perspective at this point. Blame everything on Qualcomm. Without them we wouldn't have CDMA and could freely switch carriers, devices etc. at will. Just like everyone else in the world. | |
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| | | | Re: Attention Class, Capitalism 101 is now in session Karl uses an iPhone. As such he likes to use DSLR as a springboard for his self-serving commentary, not unlike many other forums on the internet. Self serving -- and SEXY! | |
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Gaithersburg, MD | Re: Attention Class, Capitalism 101 is now in session If you don't like it, go build yer own network! And why should you care if they're tapping your lines unless you have something to hide! All P2P is used by pirates! Those who would sacrifice freedom for security don't deserve either! Gobble gobble gobble!
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| Wrong ETF, iPhone, etc keep dissatisfied users locked in. To deny it and write it off to "whining" is to deny the fundamental flaw in our system: The market is not free, and there isn't enough competition. I say bring the Government smackdown, because I don't care if a company only makes 5 billion instead of 10 billion.
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kudos:3 | Very well said. I'm so sick of the bash-fests in the comments. | |
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join:2001-09-30
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| Re: 11 months until I can get out of my contract You only have to wait if you don't want to pay the ETF...
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| | Its not that bad I have an iphone and a att 3g laptop card and dont have issues that bother me to the point of switching 98% of the time im in a 3g footprint and when im not im glad im not cause i have better service then all the others, i see my friends with sprint and verizon always waving their phones in the air to catch a signal where i have full, edge is great for rural long distance service, and today i did a speed test on my 3g laptop card, as i noticed it being faster i had 3mbps download and 1.5 up i downloaded 1.5gb of data in about an hour verizon cant say that. | |
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| | | Re: This seems to differ... The Giz graphic is quarterly capex, Q4 2007 to Q3 2009.
The pdf you linked to discusses the difference between the total spending by AT&T and Bell South in all of 2005 (pre-merger), compared to all of 2008 (post merger).
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| | seriously? this is still going on Why do people keep attacking AT&T and Apple if you own an iPhone simply hack it if you are a disgruntled AT&T customer. If you hate apple simply buy another device and stop complaining. As a 1st gen and 3rd gen iPhone owner and former Cingular, now currently AT&T customer for 10+ years; I have had no BIG problems to assert that AT&T and Apple are the devil that most of ya'll are making them appear to be. Sure I'll get a dropped call here and there but if you expect 100% functionality 100% of the time maybe you should stick to wire line services; and even then you won't get 100%. | |
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| | This quote from AT&T's reply is alarming... "There is no way to calculate or even infer what our network investment is for any given period using capex."
A. Fire the finance department if they can't answer this.
B. What I think they meant to say however was: There is no way to calculate PUBLICLY FOR THE WHOLE WORLD TO SEE or even infer what our network investment is for any given period using capex BECAUSE YOU'D HANG OUR ASS WITH IT.
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kudos:2 | Re: This quote from AT&T's reply is alarming... they have really lost it...
at this point anyone working for their marketing/pr department should be fired... every time they open their mouth it gets worse. | |
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kudos:4 | said by axiomatic:"There is no way to calculate or even infer what our network investment is for any given period using capex." What they are saying is that determining network capital projects based on data available to the SEC and reported to Wall St is impossible.
I am sure they have their own project reports that break things down to the dollar where all the capital dollars are going.
But they aren't sharing that - no company does. And they are saying Gizmodo is full of it when they put out graphs without the real info.
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| | cry babies Been using AT&T for a few years now. Former Verizon customer btw. Guess what? I can make calls just about ANY place I go with my AT&T phones even anywhere in Europe I care to go. Can Verizon or Sprint do that? Can their phones be unlocked to use SIM cards from European carriers? Of course then there's the Iphone (I prefer to call it something else). It's a PHONE people the determining factor with a phone? CAN YOU MAKE and RECIEVE CALLS! If not than there's a problem. After spending nearly 10 years with Verizon and their bulls%^t I had enough. Now they got a red map BIG effin deal! | |
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| | AT&T's Update = We spent less than you think Shorter AT&T: "In fact we invested much much less than indicated in the graph when we introduced the iphone."
What's curious though is, most other companies in their SEC filings do break out their cap-ex and revenues specific to each sector. AT&T does not. Gizmodo's graphic does lump in wireline cap ex with all other cap-ex, including construction costs. But for the AT&T rep to say that it includes "IT support" is incorrect, as that is an op ex. | |
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| | AT&T about 10 days ago I recently drove from west Tennessee back home to Boston and crossed through Kentucky, West Virginia, Maryland, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, New York, Connecticut, and finally Massachusetts and my blackberry on Verizon had 3G coverage at least 95% of the time.
To make this post even more relevant, my passenger happens to have an iPhone on AT&T and he lost coverage completely about 50% of the time, and only had 3G when we got close to major cities.
Now a few points to make on this...it's not like I sat and looked at my phone the whole way, but I did use it quite often. My friend however complained the whole way, and when he complained it made me look at my phone and then make fun of him.
Is this a problem with the iPhone, probably not...is it a problem with AT&T, more than likely.
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I had continuous coverage of at least 2 bars, usually 3 or more. It wasn't 3G but it worked fine for voice. | |
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| | Is it just an iPhone thing? Is it just an iPhone issue? I have previously posted how at a baseball game, I was able to use my Blackberry Bold and my two friends with iPhones couldn't. Same network different phone. I know that the iPhone is extremely popular, but is everyone have the same issues with different manufacturers? | |
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| | | Re: Is it just an iPhone thing? In the end, it is pretty obvious there is an issue, though maybe it isn't directly ATT networks fault. Maybe faulty radio trans in some iphones? Maybe some unforeseen incompatibility or interference causing issues with the iphone? Something other funky going on?
I feel this ATT network saga is being vastly over blown and people are running away with it at this point. | |
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