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Dill Dough
join:2000-10-16
Reno, NV | att cant wait  | |
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juilinsandar
Texas Gooner
Premium
join:2000-07-17
San Benito, TX | Re: att Ditto.
The sooner the better. | |
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ronpin
Imagine Reality
join:2002-12-06
Nirvana | Re: att The NSA will appreciate the at&t database even more! | |
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juilinsandar
Texas Gooner
Premium
join:2000-07-17
San Benito, TX
 ·AT&T DSL Service
| Re: att Does that mean I'm going to have to stop illegally downloading stuff once homezone is up & running? 
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maartena
Stacked.
Premium
join:2002-05-10
Orange, CA
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| Re: att said by juilinsandar  :Does that mean I'm going to have to stop illegally downloading stuff once homezone is up & running? Don't worry. If they really wanted to find that out, they already know. | |
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| rileyjam514
There You Go Again...
join:2005-06-26
Kearny, NJ | Re: Sounds like a combo mediacenter PC / STB Vonage would be a clear example of that situation. | |
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TelecomJunky
Premium
join:2005-12-12
Kansas City, MO
| Good idea Now that is the best idea I have heard for IPTV yet and should be looked at further.
Why not leave broadcast, digital quality TV to a push technology like Satellite where the infrastructure and technology already exist and leave IPTV for the video on demand services which are available on a request basis only.
Combined with DVR capabilities this method would drastically reduce the amount of bandwidth needed to IPTV service. | |
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Matt
Gone playing Dragon Age Origins
Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
·North State Commun..
| Re: Good idea said by TelecomJunky :Why not leave broadcast, digital quality TV to a push technology like Satellite where the infrastructure and technology already exist and leave IPTV for the video on demand services which are available on a request basis only. Because Satellite TV is prone to weather related mishaps. IPTV isn't. | |
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TelecomJunky
Premium
join:2005-12-12
Kansas City, MO
| Re: Good idea I have had direcTV or dishnet from the time they launched. I have had them in 5 different homes. If installed properly, weather related mishaps are non-existent. Cable suffers weather related issues far worse than satellite.
Don't even say digital cable, its a joke, less than 25% of their channels are even broadcast digitally and cost wise cable is nearly twice what the equivalent channel packages are through dishnet or directv. | |
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Matt
Gone playing Dragon Age Origins
Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
·North State Commun..
| Re: Good idea said by TelecomJunky :I have had direcTV or dishnet from the time they launched. I have had them in 5 different homes. If installed properly, weather related mishaps are non-existent. Cable suffers weather related issues far worse than satellite. Don't even say digital cable, its a joke, less than 25% of their channels are even broadcast digitally and cost wise cable is nearly twice what the equivalent channel packages are through dishnet or directv. Really, explain why my digital cable has never gone out yet my friend comes over all the time to watch the game because it's "too cloudy".
And your price argument has been proven again and again to be false. | |
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join:2004-04-10
Joliet, IL
·AT&T Yahoo
| Re: Good idea I have both and I have had more issues with cable than my Direct. Your friend's set up is suspect. I have had 3 inturruptions since I had Direct, they were for supercell storms in the line of site ( not neccessary right over the house ) and then only for a short time ( maybe the longest was for 5 minutes or so ). So, I can speak from experience because I used to work for Comcast as a warehouse tech and a sub-contractor and I installed my own Direct dishes on 3 homes where I pay the Direct bills.  | |
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nightshade74
Yet another genxer
Premium
join:2004-11-06
Prattville, AL | I'd have to say your friends dish install bites.
I ran to DTV 3 years ago from charter. I can
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jstep73
join:2004-02-28
Rock Island, IL | Results may vary.  | |
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join:2005-12-24
Washington, DC
·RCN CABLE
·AT&T Yahoo
| I've had Dish for a year and a half and have only experienced one outage for about five minutes during a particularly intense storm.
When I had Charter cable, I had more outages than that during a year. Most lasted more than five minutes and a couple required a tech to come fix things. | |
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TelecomJunky
Premium
join:2005-12-12
Kansas City, MO
| said by Matt :said by TelecomJunky :I have had direcTV or dishnet from the time they launched. I have had them in 5 different homes. If installed properly, weather related mishaps are non-existent. Cable suffers weather related issues far worse than satellite. Don't even say digital cable, its a joke, less than 25% of their channels are even broadcast digitally and cost wise cable is nearly twice what the equivalent channel packages are through dishnet or directv. Really, explain why my digital cable has never gone out yet my friend comes over all the time to watch the game because it's "too cloudy". And your price argument has been proven again and again to be false. Obviously, I can't quote on cable prices across the board but where I live comcast charges $80 a month for the digital silver plan with HBO.
I can get the equivalent through Dishnet for $42.99.
Both charge relatively the same extra for HDTV and locals.
Any channel below 75 on Comcast is analog and crappy.
As for the 1 guy you know having dish problems, my guess, and others on here I see, is his install is not good. My guess the cheap-o installer who setup his service didn't bother to spend the 5 minutes it takes to fine tune the dish. If he has direcTV he should make sure his signal is not below 85 before the installer leaves, if he has dish he should look at above 100 signals.
Keep in mind both are different scales, i.e. 100 is the max on dtv and 120, I believe is the max on dishnet.
In addition, if you friend has any large trees obstructing his dish he could be having problems, again an issue for installation. You need to pick a spot clear of any obstructions. | |
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Matt
Gone playing Dragon Age Origins
Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
·North State Commun..
| Re: Good idea said by TelecomJunky :said by Matt :said by TelecomJunky :I have had direcTV or dishnet from the time they launched. I have had them in 5 different homes. If installed properly, weather related mishaps are non-existent. Cable suffers weather related issues far worse than satellite. Don't even say digital cable, its a joke, less than 25% of their channels are even broadcast digitally and cost wise cable is nearly twice what the equivalent channel packages are through dishnet or directv. Really, explain why my digital cable has never gone out yet my friend comes over all the time to watch the game because it's "too cloudy". And your price argument has been proven again and again to be false. Obviously, I can't quote on cable prices across the board but where I live comcast charges $80 a month for the digital silver plan with HBO. I can get the equivalent through Dishnet for $42.99. Both charge relatively the same extra for HDTV and locals. Any channel below 75 on Comcast is analog and crappy. As for the 1 guy you know having dish problems, my guess, and others on here I see, is his install is not good. My guess the cheap-o installer who setup his service didn't bother to spend the 5 minutes it takes to fine tune the dish. If he has direcTV he should make sure his signal is not below 85 before the installer leaves, if he has dish he should look at above 100 signals. Keep in mind both are different scales, i.e. 100 is the max on dtv and 120, I believe is the max on dishnet. In addition, if you friend has any large trees obstructing his dish he could be having problems, again an issue for installation. You need to pick a spot clear of any obstructions. According to the DTV website, no you can't:
»www.directtv.com/DTVAPP/learn/Pa···ison.jsp
It would take their 93.99 package to match what I get from Time Warner for $80/month ... and I get a DVR with my package. | |
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nightshade74
Yet another genxer
Premium
join:2004-11-06
Prattville, AL
·Knology
| Re: Good idea said by Matt :According to the DTV website, no you can't: » www.directtv.com/DTVAPP/learn/Pa···ison.jspIt would take their 93.99 package to match what I get from Time Warner for $80/month ... and I get a DVR with my package. Maybe he can...
1) He didnt mention Time Warner he mentioned Comcast and
what he got
2) He didnt mention directv he mentioned dishnet
3) Many Sat providers offer an additional discount
for baby-bell customers. IE I get an additional
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odreian615
join:2006-01-18
Chicago, IL | YOU ARE LUCKY I have Comcast cable in chicago and it goes out at least once a month for about 30 min to a hour and the freeze ups sucks | |
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join:2000-09-29
Southfield, MI
| Rather than argue which is better be glad that the other exist at all. Cable and sat keep each other honest. I have had both and the only reason that I left directv was on demand. Now this solution may lead me to want to go back since cable cost way too much. | |
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richardpor
Fur it up
join:2003-04-19
Portland, OR | Because not everybody can get satellite. My apartment is facing the wrong direction. I do not have line of sight. Also I can not permanently mount it. I would have to use a tripod. Also from Verizon:
" you live in apartment,no FIOS for you" | |
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Heterman
Premium
join:2004-02-28
Fayetteville, AR
| Sounds good But what speed of internet will the end-user have to subscribe to, and what discounts are going to be available on the higher speed tiers for subscribers?
Not to go OT, but, what is the deal with going back to AT&T for businesses? I wonder if the consumer Cingular is up for a namechange, at least in the wholly owned SBC/Cingular markets? | |
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canwejustsayno
| NO Friggen WAY! Just do not buy ANY service from AT&T EVER!!!
How many ways can I say it, AT&T needs to learn the same way Ford and General Motors learned it, evolve faster or DIE, lay off thousands of your employees! Die corporation, DIE a nice death...
generation 1 broadband is a dead duck, and so it at&t for merging with an overpriced telco like sbc... it's all over baby! Dump the stock, pre bankrupcy or pay the price later! | |
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jstep73
join:2004-02-28
Rock Island, IL | Re: NO Friggen WAY! Please.
Tell us how you really feel. | |
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darthur2000
join:2002-01-02
Middletown, CT
clubs:
| but...but...but...but... but...but...but...but... I'm still waiting for Project Pronto to get basic DSL to me. I know they had originally said it would be done by 1999 or 2000. So if they have the same plans here, hmm starting this in 2005 means I'll be seeing it sometime around, oh maybe 2135 or so. | |
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Sounds like a combo mediacenter PC / STB